Re: [openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

2014-05-28 Thread Zane Bitter
On 28/05/14 14:52, Sean Dague wrote: I would agree this doesn't make sense in Neutron. I do wonder if it makes sense in the Network program. I'm getting suspicious of the programs for projects model if every new project incubating in seems to need a new program. Which isn't really a reflection o

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] summit wrap-up: backward compat

2014-05-28 Thread Andrew Lazarev
> for juno we should just have a v1 api (there can still be a v1.1 endpoint, > but it should be deprecated), and maybe a v2 api > > +1 any semantic changes require new major version number > > +1 api should only have a major number (no 1.1 or 2.1) > In this case we will end up with new major numbe

Re: [openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

2014-05-28 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > I would agree this doesn't make sense in Neutron. > > I do wonder if it makes sense in the Network program. I'm getting > suspicious of the programs for projects model if every new project > incubating in seems to need a new program. Which isn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][Tuskar-UI] Location for common dashboard code?

2014-05-28 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
Hi Doug, Thanks for the response! I agree with you in the cases where we are extending things like panels; if you're extending those, you're extending the dashboard itself. However, things such as workflows feel like they could reasonably live independently of the dashboard for re-use elsewhere.

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] summit wrap-up: backward compat

2014-05-28 Thread Matthew Farrellee
On 05/28/2014 03:50 PM, Andrew Lazarev wrote: for juno we should just have a v1 api (there can still be a v1.1 endpoint, but it should be deprecated), and maybe a v2 api +1 any semantic changes require new major version number +1 api should only have a major number (no 1.1 or 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][infra] Plan for the splitting of Horizon into two repositories

2014-05-28 Thread Gabriel Hurley
It's sort of a silly point, but as someone who would likely consume the split-off package outside of the OpenStack context, please give it a proper name instead of "django_horizon". The module only works in Django, the name adds both clutter and confusion, and it's against the Django community's

Re: [openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

2014-05-28 Thread Carl Baldwin
+1 This makes sense except that I'm not sure what the "Network Program" is. Is there already such a thing formally? Carl On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > I would agree this doesn't make sense in Neutron. > > I do wonder if it makes sense in the Network program. I'm getting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Baremetal][Neutron] SDN Solution for Openstack Baremetal Driver

2014-05-28 Thread Kevin Benton
I'm not sure what the exact requirements are for this, but there is a spec review under way for external attachment points into neutron networks. It covers integration with ironic as well as other baremetal devices. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87825/ -- Kevin Benton Ryota, Thanks for your i

Re: [openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

2014-05-28 Thread Hayes, Graham
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[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3][DVR] Team Meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC

2014-05-28 Thread Carl Baldwin
We'll meet tomorrow at the regular time in #openstack-meeting-3. Juno-1 is just two weeks away. We will discuss the distributed virtual router (DVR) work to see what the community can do to help the DVR team land the hard work that they've been doing. We'll move quickly through the non-DVR topic

Re: [openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

2014-05-28 Thread Hayes, Graham
Sorry - not sure what happened there - as I was saying: The "Networking Program" is Neutron. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs Graham On 28/05/2014 21:29, "Hayes, Graham" wrote: >___ >OpenStack-dev mailing list >OpenStack-dev@lists.openst

Re: [openstack-dev] Policy for linking bug or bp in commit message

2014-05-28 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi folks OK, so it looks like this is consensus in the community, Link bug or bp for most of commit Exception for not linking bug: (1) Infra sync (2) minor fix. (typo, small code refactor, fix doc string etc) > Ihar, Assaf Sorry for taking time for this discussion, I'll remove my comment for

[openstack-dev] [UX] [Ironic] [Ceilometer] [Horizon] [TripleO] Nodes Management UI - designs

2014-05-28 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hi All, There is a lot of tags in the subject of this e-mail but believe me that all listed projects (and even more) are relevant for the designs which I am sending out. Nodes management section in Horizon is being expected for a while and finally I am sharing the results of designing around

Re: [openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

2014-05-28 Thread Carl Baldwin
That is what I was not sure about, if they are currently one in the same. Thanks for the link. Carl On May 28, 2014 2:47 PM, "Hayes, Graham" wrote: > Sorry - not sure what happened there - as I was saying: > > The "Networking Program" is Neutron. > > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][Tuskar-UI] Location for common dashboard code?

2014-05-28 Thread Doug Fish
Hmm yes. Maybe the common base instances table could even be part of the extensible stuff in Horizon Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: > > Hi Doug, > > Thanks for the response! I agree with you in the cases where we are extending > things like panels;

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][Flavors] Flavor framework implementation questions

2014-05-28 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi, I have two questions that previously were briefly discussed. Both of them still cause discussions within advanced services community, so I'd like to make final clarification in this email thread. 1. Usage of "Service Type Framework" I think right now there is a consensus that letting user to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Unanswered questions in object model refactor blueprint

2014-05-28 Thread Vijay B
Hi Brandon! Please see inline.. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Brandon Logan wrote: > Hi Vijay, > > On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 16:27 -0700, Vijay B wrote: > > Hi Brandon, > > > > > > The current reviews of the schema itself are absolutely valid and > > necessary, and must go on. However, the p

Re: [openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

2014-05-28 Thread Michael Davies
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > I would agree this doesn't make sense in Neutron. > > I do wonder if it makes sense in the Network program. I'm getting > suspicious of the programs for projects model if every new project > incubating in seems to need a new program. Which isn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [solum] [mistral] [heat] keystone chained trusts / oauth

2014-05-28 Thread Angus Salkeld
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/05/14 12:04, Steve Martinelli wrote: > Hey Angus, > > If I understand the scenario correctly, I think you might run into the same > problem with OAuth Access Tokens. > > >> We currently use a trust token and that fails because both mistral an

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Weekly subteam meeting Thursday, 14-00 UTC

2014-05-28 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi folks, Let's keep our regular meetings on Thursday, 14-00 UTC The agenda for the meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS#Agenda Sorry for the short notice, I'm still catching up with everything. Thanks, Eugene. ___ OpenStack-dev maili

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Ironic] [Infra] Making Ironic vote as a third-party Nova driver

2014-05-28 Thread James E. Blair
Devananda van der Veen writes: > Hi all! > > This is a follow-up to several summit discussions on > how-do-we-deprecate-baremetal, a summary of the plan forward, a call to > raise awareness of the project's status, and hopefully gain some interest > from folks on nova-core to help with spec and c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] SSL VPN Implemenatation

2014-05-28 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Zang Since, SSL-VPN for Juno bp is approved in neturon-spec, I would like to restart this work. Could you share your code if it is possible? Also, Let's discuss how we can collaborate in here. Best Nachi 2014-05-01 14:40 GMT-07:00 Nachi Ueno : > Hi folks > >> Clint > Thanks, things get clear

Re: [openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

2014-05-28 Thread James E. Blair
Sean Dague writes: > I would agree this doesn't make sense in Neutron. > > I do wonder if it makes sense in the Network program. I'm getting > suspicious of the programs for projects model if every new project > incubating in seems to need a new program. Which isn't really a > reflection on desig

Re: [openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

2014-05-28 Thread Sean Dague
On 05/28/2014 07:11 PM, James E. Blair wrote: > Sean Dague writes: > >> I would agree this doesn't make sense in Neutron. >> >> I do wonder if it makes sense in the Network program. I'm getting >> suspicious of the programs for projects model if every new project >> incubating in seems to need a

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][L3] VM Scheduling v/s Network as input any consideration ?

2014-05-28 Thread Armando M.
Hi Keshava, To the best of my knowledge Nova does not have an explicit way to determine VM placements based on network attributes. That said, it does have a general mechanism called host-aggregates [1] that can be leveraged to address what you are looking for. How certain hosts are grouped togethe

Re: [openstack-dev] Recommended way of having a project admin

2014-05-28 Thread Ben Nemec
This is a development list, please ask usage questions on the users list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Thanks. -Ben On 05/28/2014 07:58 AM, Ajaya Agrawal wrote: > Hi All, > > We want to introduce a role of project admin in our cloud who can add users > only in t

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova default quotas

2014-05-28 Thread Kieran Spear
Hi Sergio, On 28 May 2014 23:28, Cazzolato, Sergio J wrote: > Hi Kieran, > > What do you think about the approach proposed in > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94519/ ? > > What we are trying to do is to simplify the way to manage default quotas > through an API and keeping backward compatibil

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova default quotas

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Collins
On 28 May 2014 13:21, Joe Gordon wrote: > Hi Kieran, > > Can you elaborate on this point. Do you actually use the full quota-class > functionality that allows for quota classes, if so what provides the quota > classes? If you only use this for setting the default quotas, why do you > prefer the A

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Supporting retries in neutronclient

2014-05-28 Thread Aaron Rosen
Hi, I'm curious if other openstack clients implement this type of retry thing. I think retrying on GET/DELETES/PUT's should probably be okay. What types of errors do you see in the neutron-server when it fails to respond? I think it would be better to move the retry logic into the server around t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Neutron] heal_instance_info_cache_interval - Can we kill it?

2014-05-28 Thread Aaron Rosen
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Assaf Muller wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > Hi, > > > > Sorry somehow I missed this email. I don't think you want to disable it, > > though we can definitely have it run less often. The issue with > disabling it > > is if one of the notifications fr

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo logging eats system level tracebacks by default

2014-05-28 Thread Joshua Harlow
An idea, and one that I've tried to apply in taskflow. Since 3.0 added with http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3134 if we can *simulate* except chaining in our projects this would likely help even more with traceability and debugging. I have a common exception that that I've been using to ap

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] two confused part about Ironic

2014-05-28 Thread Jander lu
Hi, guys, I have two confused part in Ironic. (1) if I use nova boot api to launch an physical instance, how does nova boot command differentiate whether VM or physical node provision? From this article, nova bare metal use "PlacementFilter" instead of FilterScheduler.so does Ironic use the same

Re: [openstack-dev] Understanding Openstack releases and components

2014-05-28 Thread Swaroop Jayanthi
Hi All, I am new to Openstack and want to understand the concepts of Openstack. I am going through the pdf provided in Openstack ie Grizzly, but somewhat from openstack website i found totally different releases such as Ironic, Telemeter. If anyone can point me the URL or PDF which is better to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][L3] VM Scheduling v/s Network as input any consideration ?

2014-05-28 Thread Mike Spreitzer
"Armando M." wrote on 05/28/2014 07:35:52 PM: > From: "Armando M." > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > , > Date: 05/28/2014 07:37 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][L3] VM Scheduling v/s Network > as input any consideration ? > > Hi Keshava, > > To

Re: [openstack-dev] Understanding Openstack releases and components

2014-05-28 Thread iKhan
Hi, You can find all the latest docs on OpenStack at http://docs.openstack.org/ On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Swaroop Jayanthi < swaroop.jayan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > I am new to Openstack and want to understand the concepts of Openstack. > > I am going through the pdf provided in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Hide CI comments in Gerrit

2014-05-28 Thread Qiu Yu
Hi Rado, Thanks for this cool userscript! It works great, and the only problem I found is TamperMonkey has some issue with hash in @include pattern matching[1]. So I end up using https://review.openstack.org/* instead of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/* [1] http://tampermonkey.net/documentati

Re: [openstack-dev] Recommended way of having a project admin

2014-05-28 Thread Adam Young
On 05/28/2014 07:43 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: This is a development list, please ask usage questions on the users list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Thanks. Ordinarily I would ordinarily agree, but this is getting into stuff that devs need to discuss. -Ben On 05

Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] [Ironic] [Ceilometer] [Horizon] [TripleO] Nodes Management UI - designs

2014-05-28 Thread Tzu-Mainn Chen
Hi Jarda, These look pretty good! However, I'm having trouble evaluating from a purely functional point of view, as I'm not entirely sure what the requirements driving these design. Would it be possible to list those out. . . ? Thanks, Tzu-Mainn Chen - Original Message - > Hi All, > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Unanswered questions in object model refactor blueprint

2014-05-28 Thread Brandon Logan
Hi Vijay, On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 15:18 -0700, Vijay B wrote: > Hi Brandon! > > > Please see inline.. > > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Brandon Logan > wrote: > Hi Vijay, > > On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 16:27 -0700, Vijay B wrote: > > Hi Brandon, >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Unanswered questions in object model refactor blueprint

2014-05-28 Thread Bo Lin
Hi Brandon, I have one question. If we support LoadBalancer to Listener relationship M:N, then one listener with IPV4 service members backend may be shared by a loadbalancer instance with IPV6 forntend. Does it mean we also need to provide IPV6 - IPV4 port forwarding functions in LBaaS services

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][L3] VM Scheduling v/s Network as input any consideration ?

2014-05-28 Thread jcsf31459
Yes, agree on the use case.  I suggest we introduce a series of callbacks and up calls to the scheduler so that we don't bloat the ‎scheduler with information outside of its domain.      Callbacks and up calls can be used to call external systems that keep detailed topology information.   We can al

[openstack-dev] [nova] bug status and our 1st Bug Day for Juno

2014-05-28 Thread Tracy Jones
Hi Folks - I spoke with Michael at the summit about bug management for Juno. Other than tagging the untagged bugs each week, I will also be driving a top ten list of bugs at the nova meeting. The meeting is every Wednesday for 1/2 hour at 1630 UTC. Attendance has dropped off since the end of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Qcow2 support for cinder-backup

2014-05-28 Thread Zhangleiqiang (Trump)
> I think the problem being referred to in this thread is that the backup code > assumes the *source* is a raw volume. The destination (i.e. swift) should > absolutely remain universal across all volume back-ends - a JSON list with > pointers. The JSON file is versioned, so there is scope to add mo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Ironic] [Infra] Making Ironic vote as a third-party Nova driver

2014-05-28 Thread Joshua Hesketh
On 5/29/14 8:52 AM, James E. Blair wrote: Devananda van der Veen writes: Hi all! This is a follow-up to several summit discussions on how-do-we-deprecate-baremetal, a summary of the plan forward, a call to raise awareness of the project's status, and hopefully gain some interest from folks on

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

2014-05-28 Thread James Polley
Thanks for putting this together Jaromir! August 1 may be a problem for those of us from Australia - it's the day of the OpenStack miniconf at Pycon-AU. I don't know if any of us intended to go to that, but if we did we'd need to leave no later than the 4:40pm flight on July 30 in order to make i

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][infra] Plan for the splitting of Horizon into two repositories

2014-05-28 Thread Tihomir Trifonov
Hi Gabriel, thanks for joining the conversation. It is a quite old discussion that was also discussed at the Atlanta design summit, and it seems that the moment this to happen had finally come. It is always nice to hear the opinion of a real Django core developer. Just a follow-up from the discus

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] BPs for Juno-1

2014-05-28 Thread mar...@redhat.com
On 28/05/14 17:57, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:41 AM, mar...@redhat.com > wrote: >> On 27/05/14 17:14, Kyle Mestery wrote: >>> Hi Neutron developers: >>> >>> I've spent some time cleaning up the BPs for Juno-1, and they are >>> documented at the link below [1]. There are a la

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Collins
Is there any wiggle room on those dates? As James Polley says, PyCon AU (and the Openstack miniconf, which I'm organising with JHesketh) overlap significantly - and I can't be in two places at once. However July 21-25th would be totally doable :) -Rob On 28 May 2014 23:05, Jaromir Coufal wrote:

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