Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS plans for Icehouse

2013-10-24 Thread Itsuro ODA
Hi, We have submitted the following LBaaS related BPs: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-support-routed-service-insertion https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-lvs-driver https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-lvs-extra-features I can't attend the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS plans for Icehouse

2013-10-24 Thread Samuel Bercovici
Hi, Please find a summary of talks and discussion related to LBaaS for the summit at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vjm57lh7PnXDelOy-VxsJkzc8QRiNN368sS11ePs_vA/edit?pli=1#heading=h.6doqijxd389j I have also added the list bellow to it. We can review in the meeting today. Regards,

[openstack-dev] [Climate] Weekly IRC team meeting

2013-10-24 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi all, Climate is growing and time is coming for having a weekly meeting in between all of us. There is a huge number of reviews in progress, and at least the first agenda will be triaging those, making sure they are either coming to trunk as soon as possible, or splitted into smaller chunks

[openstack-dev] Move pep8 requirements to a separate file

2013-10-24 Thread Victor Sergeyev
Hello all, I noticed, that when I run tests using tox I get some redundant modules installed to tox virtual environments. At the moment, pep8 specific requirements (such as pep8, flake8 and so on) are stated in test-requirements.txt file, which is meant to contain testing specific modules (nose,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-24 Thread Ahn Jaesuk
Hi, Swami, I am also very interested in this topic. we have been looking into this domain for months, will be happy to share what we have. Please include me in the discussion loop. Thanks, -- Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D. Team Leader Next Generation Cloud Platform Development Project KT (Korea

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-24 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Hi Swami I am interested in this, please keep me in the loop. /Alan From: Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville) [mailto:swaminathan.vasude...@hp.com] Sent: October-22-13 8:50 PM To: cloudbengo; Artem Dmytrenko; yong sheng gong (gong...@unitedstack.com); OpenStack Development Mailing List

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-24 Thread Patrick Petit
Hi Clint, Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line. Cheers, Patrick On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Patrick Petit's message of 2013-10-23 10:58:22 -0700: Dear Steve and All, If I may add up on this already busy thread to share our experience with using Heat in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-24 Thread Patrick Petit
Sorry, I clicked the 'send' button too quickly. On 10/24/13 11:54 AM, Patrick Petit wrote: Hi Clint, Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line. Cheers, Patrick On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Patrick Petit's message of 2013-10-23 10:58:22 -0700: Dear Steve and All,

Re: [openstack-dev] Move pep8 requirements to a separate file

2013-10-24 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/24/2013 03:52 AM, Victor Sergeyev wrote: Hello all, I noticed, that when I run tests using tox I get some redundant modules installed to tox virtual environments. At the moment, pep8 specific requirements (such as pep8, flake8 and so on) are stated in test-requirements.txt file, which is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, At the last Nova meeting we started talking about some updates to the Nova blueprint process for the Icehouse cycle. I had hoped we could talk about and finalize this in a Nova design summit session on Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Weekly IRC team meeting

2013-10-24 Thread Swann Croiset
+1 Le 24/10/2013 09:45, Sylvain Bauza a écrit : Hi all, Climate is growing and time is coming for having a weekly meeting in between all of us. There is a huge number of reviews in progress, and at least the first agenda will be triaging those, making sure they are either coming to trunk as

[openstack-dev] Cinder: create volume hold 'error' state.

2013-10-24 Thread ifzing
Hi all, I want create volume in horizon, but it report error msg. And I have following action, 1. stop_service tgt 2. mv /etc/init/tgt.conf /etc/init/tgt.conf.disabled 3. restart_service iscsitarget And /var/log/cinder/* log is: -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] How users should specify a datastore type when creating an instance

2013-10-24 Thread Ilya Sviridov
So, we have 2 places for configuration management - database and config file Config file for tunning all datasource type behavior during installation and database for all changeable configurations during usage and administration of Trove installation. Database usecases: - update/custom image -

Re: [openstack-dev] VPNaaS questions...

2013-10-24 Thread Paul Michali
I put the client code out for review as WIP: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53602/ Regards, PCM (Paul Michali) MAIL p...@cisco.com IRC pcm_ (irc.freenode.net) TW @pmichali On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Nachi Ueno na...@ntti3.com wrote: Hi Paul I rebased the patch, and working on

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/24/2013 08:38 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: Since the beginning of OpenStack we have had vim modelines all over the codebase, but after seeing this patch https://review.opeenstack.org/#/c/50891/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50891/ I took a further look into vim modelines and think we

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 to remove them. -- dims On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 10/24/2013 08:38 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: Since the beginning of OpenStack we have had vim modelines all over the codebase, but after seeing this patch

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-24 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Hi all, maybe a bit off track with respect to latest concrete discussions, but I noticed the announcement of project Solum on openstack-dev. Maybe this is playing on a different level, but I still see some relation to all the software orchestration we are having. What are your opinions on this?

Re: [openstack-dev] Announcing Project Solum

2013-10-24 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Hi Adrian, really intersting! I wonder what the relation to all the software orchestration in Heat discussions is that have been going on for a while now. Regards, Thomas Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote on 23.10.2013 21:03:10: From: Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com To:

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 24/10/13 13:38 +0100, Joe Gordon wrote: Since the beginning of OpenStack we have had vim modelines all over the codebase, but after seeing this patch https://review.opeenstack.org/#/c/50891/ I took a further look into vim modelines and think we should remove them. Before going any further, I

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-24 Thread Yuriy Taraday
+1 on the topic How about we catch them in hacking so that they won't ever come back? On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to remove them. -- dims On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 10/24/2013 08:38

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder: create volume hold 'error' state.

2013-10-24 Thread Duncan Thomas
Can you pastebin the full cinder-volume.log please, from the moment the create RPC comes in until the error (or just the full file if taht is easier) On 24 October 2013 13:36, ifzing ifz...@126.com wrote: Hi all, I want create volume in horizon, but it report error msg. And I have following

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-24 Thread David Ripton
On 10/24/2013 08:38 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: Why remove them? * Modelines aren't supported by default in debian or ubuntu due to security reasons: https://wiki.python.org/moin/Vim * Having modelines for vim means if someone wants we should support modelines for emacs

Re: [openstack-dev] excessively difficult to support both iso8601 0.1.4 and 0.1.8 as deps

2013-10-24 Thread Morgan Fainberg
It seems like adopting 0.1.8 is the right approach. If it doesn't work with other projects, we should work to help those projects get updated to work with it. --Morgan On Thursday, October 24, 2013, Zhi Yan Liu wrote: Hi all, Adopt 0.1.8 as iso8601 minimum version:

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-24 Thread Morgan Fainberg
+1 and likely this should be added to hacking so they don't sneak back in by accident / reviewers missing the line since we've had them for do long. On Thursday, October 24, 2013, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 24/10/13 13:38 +0100, Joe Gordon wrote: Since the beginning of OpenStack we have had vim

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Weekly IRC team meeting

2013-10-24 Thread Nikolay Starodubtsev
+1, but we need to wait for Dina. She has more problems with schedule than me Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Swann Croiset swann.croi...@bull.netwrote: +1 Le 24/10/2013 09:45, Sylvain Bauza a écrit : Hi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Dan Smith
In the last meeting we discussed an idea that I think is worth trying at least for icehouse-1 to see if we like it or not. The idea is that *every* blueprint starts out at a Low priority, which means best effort, but no promises. For a blueprint to get prioritized higher, it should have 2

[openstack-dev] LBaaS: should we check for associations when deleting health monitor?

2013-10-24 Thread Oleg Bondarev
Hi, Currently in LBaaS when health monitor object is deleted all associations with pools are deleted automatically. A bug was reported recently in Neutron where the reporter considers this behavior as wrong: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1243129 I have no strong opinion so I'd like to

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Stable/Havana Gate broken

2013-10-24 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, The gate for stable Hanava is broken in Nova with the following error: == 2013-10-24 12:48:35.629http://logs.openstack.org/95/53595/1/check/check-tempest-devstack-vm-full/14c606f/console.html#_2013-10-24_12_48_35_629 |

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-24 Thread Dan Smith
Example 1: == n-conductor log in tempest/devstack - http://logs.openstack.org/70/52870/3/check/check-tempest-devstack-vm-full/f46b756/logs/screen-n-cond.txt.gz Total log lines: 84076 Total non DEBUG lines: 61 Question: do we need more than 1 level of

[openstack-dev] Warning, entering meeting time confusion zone

2013-10-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
This is your semestrial public service announcement. This Sunday a large chunk of the world will drop DST, while most countries in North America will not (until November 3). This generally results in widespread confusion and chaos until things settle a few weeks later. Remember *our meetings are

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-24 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 07:05:19AM -0700, Dan Smith wrote: Some of them are not useful to me (but might be to others), like the amqp channel lines. However, everything else has been pretty crucial at one point or another when debugging issues that span between the two tightly-coupled services.

Re: [openstack-dev] Disable async network allocation

2013-10-24 Thread Day, Phil
Yep, that was the feature I was referring to. As I said I don't have anything defiant that shows this to be not working (and the code looks fine) - just wanted to try and simplify the world a bit for a while. -Original Message- From: Melanie Witt [mailto:melw...@yahoo-inc.com] Sent:

Re: [openstack-dev] Disable async network allocation

2013-10-24 Thread Day, Phil
This is a quite interest findings. so If we use httplib, this won't happen? That's my understanding. It also looks like you might be able to configure the retrys in later versions of httplib2 -Original Message- From: Nachi Ueno [mailto:na...@ntti3.com] Sent: 24 October 2013 00:38 To:

[openstack-dev] OpenStack Diagnostics project proposal

2013-10-24 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Hey folks! I'm totally excited to present to you a proposal of OpenStack Diagnostics project (codenamed Rubick). This project aims to provide a simple and convenient tool (or few tools) for OpenStack cloud operator to inspect and validate a consistency and correctness of configuration of their

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman l...@redhat.comwrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 07:05:19AM -0700, Dan Smith wrote: Some of them are not useful to me (but might be to others), like the amqp channel lines. However, everything else has been pretty crucial at one point or

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Gary Kotton
On 10/24/13 4:46 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: In the last meeting we discussed an idea that I think is worth trying at least for icehouse-1 to see if we like it or not. The idea is that *every* blueprint starts out at a Low priority, which means best effort, but no promises.

Re: [openstack-dev] Announcing Project Solum

2013-10-24 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/24/2013 08:51 AM, Thomas Spatzier wrote: Hi Adrian, really intersting! I wonder what the relation to all the software orchestration in Heat discussions is that have been going on for a while now. It's a good question. Personally, I would expect Heat to be a key element of how Solum

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/24/2013 07:43 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com mailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Here is a first cut at the process. Let me know what you think is missing or should change. I'll get the result of this thread posted on

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-24 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/24/2013 10:05 AM, Dan Smith wrote: Example 1: == n-conductor log in tempest/devstack - http://logs.openstack.org/70/52870/3/check/check-tempest-devstack-vm-full/f46b756/logs/screen-n-cond.txt.gz Total log lines: 84076 Total non DEBUG lines: 61 Question:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/24/2013 10:52 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: On 10/24/13 4:46 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: In the last meeting we discussed an idea that I think is worth trying at least for icehouse-1 to see if we like it or not. The idea is that *every* blueprint starts out at a Low priority,

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-24 Thread Dan Smith
If we had DEBUG and DEBUG2 levels, where one of them would only be seen at the higher debug level, would that be useful? I'm fine with not seeing those for devstack runs, yeah. --Dan ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Weekly IRC team meeting

2013-10-24 Thread Yuriy Taraday
+1 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Nikolay Starodubtsev nstarodubt...@mirantis.com wrote: +1, but we need to wait for Dina. She has more problems with schedule than me Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:11 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/24/13 at 11:07am, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/24/2013 10:52 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: On 10/24/13 4:46 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: In the last meeting we discussed an idea that I think is worth trying at least for icehouse-1 to see if we like it or not. The idea is that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Weekly IRC team meeting

2013-10-24 Thread Dina Belova
+1 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Nikolay Starodubtsev nstarodubt...@mirantis.com wrote: +1, but we need to wait for Dina. She has more problems with schedule than me Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:11 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-24 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/24/2013 11:00 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 10/24/2013 10:05 AM, Dan Smith wrote: Example 1: == n-conductor log in tempest/devstack - http://logs.openstack.org/70/52870/3/check/check-tempest-devstack-vm-full/f46b756/logs/screen-n-cond.txt.gz Total log lines: 84076

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: At the last Nova meeting we started talking about some updates to the Nova blueprint process for the Icehouse cycle. I had hoped we could talk about and finalize this in a Nova design summit session on Nova Project Structure and Process [1], but I think we need to push

Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Weekly IRC team meeting

2013-10-24 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Cool. All the core devs gave a go, let's begin with Mondays 1000 UTC on #openstack-meeting I modified the Meetings wikipage [1] and created a wikipage for our own agenda [2] [1] : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings [2] : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Climate Thanks,

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-24 Thread Brant Knudson
On a previous project, I wrote a library that provided a command-line option to set the logging levels for different loggers. This was handy for developers and for support. An example translated to Keystone would be like keystone-all --logging=keystone.identity=DEBUG Now the keystone.identity

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] How users should specify a datastore type when creating an instance

2013-10-24 Thread Tim Simpson
So if we decide to support any number of config options for each various datastore version, eventually we'll have large config files that will be hard to manage. What about storing the extra config info for each datastore version in its own independent config file? So rather than having one

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] How users should specify a datastore type when creating an instance

2013-10-24 Thread Daniel Salinas
I am 1% behind that idea. It makes things easier to manage. On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Tim Simpson tim.simp...@rackspace.comwrote: So if we decide to support any number of config options for each various datastore version, eventually we'll have large config files that will be

[openstack-dev] [State-Management] Agenda for today meeting at 2000 UTC

2013-10-24 Thread Joshua Harlow
Hi all, The [state-management] project team holds a weekly meeting in #openstack-meeting on thursdays, 2000 UTC. The next meeting is today, 2013-10-24!!! As usual, everyone is welcome :-) Link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StateManagement Taskflow:

Re: [openstack-dev] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-24 Thread Henry Gessau
On Wed, Oct 23, at 7:35 am, Sylvain Afchain sylvain.afch...@enovance.com wrote: I'm interested as well. On our side we are working on this BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l3-high-availability And might be good to revisit the Multi-host DHCP and L3 blueprint

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC - Icehouse logging harmonization

2013-10-24 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/24/2013 11:46 AM, Brant Knudson wrote: On a previous project, I wrote a library that provided a command-line option to set the logging levels for different loggers. This was handy for developers and for support. An example translated to Keystone would be like keystone-all

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/24/2013 11:32 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: At the last Nova meeting we started talking about some updates to the Nova blueprint process for the Icehouse cycle. I had hoped we could talk about and finalize this in a Nova design summit session on Nova Project Structure

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-24 Thread Robert Collins
I guess I get to buck the trend :). On 25 October 2013 01:38, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: Since the beginning of OpenStack we have had vim modelines all over the codebase, but after seeing this patch https://review.opeenstack.org/#/c/50891/ I took a further look into vim modelines

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] L3 router service integration with Service Type Framework

2013-10-24 Thread Gary Duan
Hi, I've registered a BP for L3 router service integration with service framework. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l3-router-service-type In general, the implementation will align with how LBaaS is integrated with the framework. One consideration we heard from several team

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Stable/Havana Gate broken

2013-10-24 Thread Joe Gordon
This is being tracked in bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1244055and a fix is working its way through the gate now ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53699/) On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi, The gate for stable Hanava is broken in Nova with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Stable/Havana Gate broken

2013-10-24 Thread Gary Kotton
Thanks for doing this. Gary From: Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.commailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:48 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Robert Collins
On 24 October 2013 04:33, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, At the last Nova meeting we started talking about some updates to the Nova blueprint process for the Icehouse cycle. I had hoped we could talk about and finalize this in a Nova design summit session on Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [GIT] Reset a commit in Gerrit

2013-10-24 Thread Floren Llanos
Thanks all for the information! Floren 2013/10/21 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org: Dolph Mathews wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.com mailto:emag...@plumgrid.com wrote: Just just need to send a patch to gerrit. From you local repo, do the

Re: [openstack-dev] extend Network topology view in horizon

2013-10-24 Thread Toshiyuki Hayashi
Hi Raja, I'm sorry, I haven't careated documents yet. When I create, I'll share you. Thanks, Toshi On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Raja Srinivasan raja.sriniva...@riverbed.com wrote: Hi Toshi If you have some documentation on the demo, please share it. Thanks Regards Raja Srinivasan

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Robert Collins
-2 to 10 minute downtimes. +1 to doing the evolution gracefully. There is a spec for doing that from the H summit; someone just needs to implement it. -Rob On 25 October 2013 09:30, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Hi. Because I am a grumpy old man I have just -2'ed

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Hi, 1) If you have 30 million instance it means that you have 300 million instance_system_metadata records All these records will be downloaded every 6 seconds (in periodic tasks) to compute_nodes = which means that OpenStack on scale out of box doesn't work. If you have 3 million instance the

Re: [openstack-dev] Disable async network allocation

2013-10-24 Thread Melanie Witt
On Oct 24, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: Yep, that was the feature I was referring to. As I said I don't have anything defiant that shows this to be not working (and the code looks fine) - just wanted to try and simplify the world a bit for a while. Of course.

[openstack-dev] [marconi] Sharding feature design

2013-10-24 Thread Kurt Griffiths
Folks, We’ve been discussing Marconi’s storage sharding architecture over the past couple of weeks and I took some time today to draw up our current thinking on the design. I’ve also added this link to the blueprint. http://grab.by/rsoI I’d like to get the team’s thoughts on this and get the

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Because I am a grumpy old man I have just -2'ed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39685/ and I wanted to explain my rationale. Mostly I am hoping for a consensus to form -- if I am wrong then I'll happy remove my vote from this patch.

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/24/2013 04:40 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Hi, 1) If you have 30 million instance it means that you have 300 million instance_system_metadata records All these records will be downloaded every 6 seconds (in periodic tasks) to compute_nodes = which means that OpenStack on scale out of box

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Johannes Erdfelt johan...@erdfelt.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: However, when I run it with medium sized (30 million instances) databases, the change does cause a 10 minute downtime. I don't personally think the change

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] FWaaS IceHouse summit prep and IRC meeting

2013-10-24 Thread Rajesh Mohan
This is good discussion. +1 for using Neutron ports for defining zones. I see Kaiwei's point but for DELL, neutron ports makes more sense. I am not sure if I completely understood the bump-in-the-wire/zone discussion. DELL security appliance allows using different zones with bump-in-the-wire. If

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Johannes Erdfelt johan...@erdfelt.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: However, when I run it with medium sized (30 million instances) databases, the change

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Robert Collins
On 25 October 2013 10:04, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: -2 to 10 minute downtimes. +1 to doing the evolution gracefully. There is a spec for doing that from the H summit; someone just needs to

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Johannes, +1, purging should help here a lot. Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Johannes Erdfelt johan...@erdfelt.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Johannes Erdfelt johan...@erdfelt.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] L3 router service integration with Service Type Framework

2013-10-24 Thread Itsuro ODA
Hi, We are going to implement 2-arm type lbaas using LVS, and have submitted the following BPs. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-support-routed-service-insertion https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-lvs-driver

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Is this really a viable solution? I believe its more democratic to ensure everyone gets a chance to present the blueprint someone has spent time to write. This was no favoritism or biased view will ever take place and we let the community gauge the interest. /Alan -Original Message-

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Boris Pavlovic bo...@pavlovic.me wrote: Johannes, +1, purging should help here a lot. Sure, but my point is more: - pruning isn't done by the system automatically, so we have to assume it never happens - we need to have a clearer consensus about what we

[openstack-dev] [Neutron]LBaaS] - Questions on IP Allocation Logic for VIP

2013-10-24 Thread Pattabi Ayyasami
Hi, We encounter the following error in our lab when we auto allocate the VIP IP Address for create_vip API. == ERROR: quantumclient.shell Unable to complete operation for network

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Mark Washenberger
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.netwrote: On 25 October 2013 10:04, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: On Oct 24, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: -2 to 10 minute downtimes. +1 to doing the evolution

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Michael, - pruning isn't done by the system automatically, so we have to assume it never happens We are working around it https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/db-purge-engine - we need to have a clearer consensus about what we think the maximum size of a nova deployment is. Are

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] L3 router service integration with Service Type Framework

2013-10-24 Thread Gary Duan
Hi, Oda-san, Thanks for your response. L3 agent function should remain the same, as one driver implementation of L3 router plugin. My understanding is your lbaas driver can be running on top of L3 agent and LVS' own routing services. Is my understanding correct? Thanks, Gary On Thu, Oct 24,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] L3 router service integration with Service Type Framework

2013-10-24 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Gary, In the context of the nvp plugin we use a mechanism for enabling 'advanced' capabilities of a router leveraging a 'router_service_type' extension. this allow us to configure two types of routers, one which does just L3 forwarding, NAT and a few other things, and another one which also has

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] L3 router service integration with Service Type Framework

2013-10-24 Thread Itsuro ODA
Hi Gray, Thanks for your response. Our plan is as follows: * LVS driver is one of lbaas provider driver. It communicates with l3_agent instead of lbaas_agent. * For l3_agent side, I think the implementation is same as fwaas. L3NATAgent inherits like LVSL3AgentRpcCallback class added which

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] L3 router service integration with Service Type Framework

2013-10-24 Thread Geoff Arnold
I’m getting a “Not allowed here” error when I click through to the BP. (Yes, I’m subscribed.) On Oct 24, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Gary Duan gd...@varmour.com wrote: Hi, I've registered a BP for L3 router service integration with service framework.

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Nominating Lucas Gomes to ironic core

2013-10-24 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Hi all, I'd like to nominate Lucas Gomes for ironic-core. He's been consistently doing reviews for several months and has led a lot of the effort on the API and client libraries. Thanks for the great work! -Deva http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/ironic-reviewers-90.txt

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-24 Thread Keith Bray
Hi Thomas, here's my opinion: Heat and Solum contributors will work closely together to figure out where specific feature implementations belong... But, in general, Solum is working at a level above Heat. To write a Heat template, you have to know about infrastructure setup and configuration

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] L3 router service integration with Service Type Framework

2013-10-24 Thread Gary Duan
Hi, Geoff, This is because I haven't added spec to the BP yet. Gary On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Geoff Arnold ge...@geoffarnold.com wrote: I’m getting a *“**Not allowed here”* error when I click through to the BP. (Yes, I’m subscribed.) On Oct 24, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Gary Duan

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Mike Wilson
So, I observe a consensus here of long migrations suckm +1 to that. I also observe a consensus that we need to get no-downtime schema changes working. It seems super important. Also +1 to that. Getting back to the original review, it got -2'd because Michael would like to make sure that the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-24 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote: Hi Clint, Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line. Cheers, Patrick On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Patrick Petit's message of 2013-10-23 10:58:22 -0700: Dear Steve and All, If I may add up on this already busy thread

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder: create volume hold 'error' state. ( Full cinder-volume.log)

2013-10-24 Thread ifzing
Done! In https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/issues/89 this page, I meet the problem is same to this guys. its because --tid=1 for ietadm allready exists. delete the new created volume with status error and type via console the following command: ietadm --op delete

[openstack-dev] [savanna] team meeting minutes Oct 24

2013-10-24 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Thanks everyone who have joined Savanna meeting. Here are the logs from the meeting: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-10-24-18.05.html Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/savanna/2013/savanna.2013-10-24-18.05.txt Log:

Re: [openstack-dev] Does DB schema hygiene warrant long migrations?

2013-10-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 10/24/2013 05:19 PM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Because I am a grumpy old man I have just -2'ed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39685/ and I wanted to explain my rationale. Mostly I am hoping for a consensus to form -- if I am

[openstack-dev] [Savanna] Savanna on Bare Metal and Base Requirements

2013-10-24 Thread Tripp, Travis S
Hello Savanna team, I've just skimmed through the online documentation and I'm very interested in this project. We have a grizzly environment with all the latest patches as well as several Havana backports applied. We are are doing bare metal provisioning through Nova. It is limited to flat

Re: [openstack-dev] Announcing Project Solum

2013-10-24 Thread Adrian Otto
Thomas and Russell, On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/24/2013 08:51 AM, Thomas Spatzier wrote: Hi Adrian, really intersting! I wonder what the relation to all the software orchestration in Heat discussions is that have been going on for a while

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] About single entry point in trove-guestagent

2013-10-24 Thread Michael Basnight
On Oct 23, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Illia Khudoshyn wrote: Hi Denis, Michael, Vipul and all, I noticed a discussion in irc about adding a single entry point (sort of 'SuperManager') to the guestagent. Let me add my 5cent. I agree with that we would ultimately avoid code duplication. But from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] FWaaS IceHouse summit prep and IRC meeting

2013-10-24 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
The bump-in-the-wire mode we were referring to here is the one where the firewall has both legs on the same subnet/network. The point that was trying to be made was that applying zones in that case would not make as much sense. At this point there is no proposal though to validate and restrict