Re: [openstack-dev] [ALL] Removing generate_uuid() from uuidutils

2013-11-12 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Nov 13 2013, Zhongyue Luo wrote: > Any thoughts on this change? Thanks. +2'ed. I'm pretty sure that helping other projects to help get rid of it would be nice, if your time allows it. :) -- Julien Danjou // Free Software hacker / independent consultant // http://julien.danjou.info sig

[openstack-dev] [ALL] Removing generate_uuid() from uuidutils

2013-11-12 Thread Zhongyue Luo
Hi all, We had a discussion of the modules that are incubated in Oslo. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-oslo-status One of the conclusions we came to was to deprecate/remove uuidutils in this cycle. The first step into this change should be to remove generate_uuid() from uuidutils. Th

[openstack-dev] [Mistral] Etherpads for collaborating on API and DSL specifications

2013-11-12 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi, Here are the etherpads for discussing DSL and API specifications: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralDSLSpecification https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralAPISpecification Everyone is very welcome to contribute. Thanks! Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc.

[openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev][nova][swift]Use of 'httpplus' instead of 'httplib' in swift plugin to support 'Expect:100-continue' header

2013-11-12 Thread Amala Alungal
Hi, This is in relation with the patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55517/ which supports use of 'Expect: 100-Continue' header in swift client during a PUT request. This will help attain an interim response before actual upload of chunks, which will act

[openstack-dev] [mistral] Roadmap, TaskFlow & Mistral, Questions to answer before start Mistral implementation

2013-11-12 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi everyone, We’ve created several etherpads to start discussing all things related with further Mistral development. Here they are: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TaskFlowAndMistral https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralQuestionsBeforeImplementation https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralR

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] User registrations

2013-11-12 Thread Garry Chen
Garry Chen - iPhone > On 2013年11月13日, at 上午5:44, Paul Belanger wrote: > >> On 13-11-11 01:31 AM, Lyle, David wrote: >> I think there is certainly interest. I do think it will need to be highly >> configurable to be useful. The problem, as Dolph points out, is that each >> deployment has i

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Blueprint for Juniper OpenContrail vrouter nova vif driver support

2013-11-12 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Harshad Nakil wrote: > Kyle, > These requirement should also be required for existing third plugins. > Will you allow new patches to existing plugins without this requirement? > I hope we don't end up creating multiple classes of citizens. > > Regards > -Harshad > A

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Blueprint for Juniper OpenContrail vrouter nova vif driver support

2013-11-12 Thread Harshad Nakil
Kyle, These requirement should also be required for existing third plugins. Will you allow new patches to existing plugins without this requirement? I hope we don't end up creating multiple classes of citizens. Regards -Harshad > On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:08 PM, "Kyle Mestery (kmestery)" > wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] disable/enable services and agent tests

2013-11-12 Thread Robert Collins
We shouldn't really be changing the config of the cloud we're testing - that stops us being run against actual prod clouds. Instead we should have some set of profiles we test against - and then run different jobs for different profiles, avoiding the problem entirely. -Rob On 13 November 2013 15

Re: [openstack-dev] disable/enable services and agent tests

2013-11-12 Thread Zhu Bo
I think we should remove these tests, even though tempest run in serial. Because we can't assume the enable service action will be successful. (But on the other hand, one test is failed, the tempest gate will be failed. We need find it out and fix it. :-) ) On 2013?11?13? 10:23, Zhi Kun Liu

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Blueprint for Juniper OpenContrail vrouter nova vif driver support

2013-11-12 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Nov 12, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Prasad Miriyala wrote: > > Hi All, > > A blueprint has been registered to add Nova vif driver support for Juniper > vrouter. > > The Juniper OpenContrail Controller is a logically centralized but physically > distributed Software Defined Networking (SDN) controlle

Re: [openstack-dev] Script to operate on trove

2013-11-12 Thread Krishanu Dhar
Thanks Daniel and Denis. It's a lot clear now. I have not started work on it yet. And I am sure to run into plenty of queries once I start, so thanks... On Nov 12, 2013 11:58 AM, "Denis Makogon" wrote: > @ imsplitbit ;) > @ Krish if you need any kind of help with trove just let us know. > > > 201

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] moratorium on new negative tests in Tempest

2013-11-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2013-11-12 10:36:31 -0800: > Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-11-12 10:01:06 -0800: > > During the freeze phase of Havana we got a ton of new contributors > > coming on board to Tempest, which was super cool. However it meant we > > had this new infl

[openstack-dev] disable/enable services and agent tests

2013-11-12 Thread Zhi Kun Liu
Hi all, In Tempest, we have some testcases that disable/enable services or agents. e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55271/1/tempest/api/compute/admin/test_services.py test_service_enable_disable test_disable_service_with_disable_reason Since Tempest run in parallel for now, I'm afraid of the

Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon Issue

2013-11-12 Thread Kieran Spear
Hi, On 13 November 2013 12:54, K S wrote: > Hi I'm a newbie to horizon and I'm working on a trove related issue. > My use case is that on successful execution of the "workflow" in > trove, I need to redirect the workflow to a view. Additionally I want > to pass a couple of parameters from the wor

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: reverse the default Gerrit sort order

2013-11-12 Thread Robert Collins
On 11 November 2013 17:06, Clark Boylan wrote: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Robert Collins > They are sorted on the reverse of the default sort order (which is Sadly not. The default sort order shows most-recently-updated first, which is a field which changes on new push, on comments, etc.

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] moratorium on new negative tests in Tempest

2013-11-12 Thread Rochelle.Grober
I agree that parametric testing, with input generators is the way to go for the API testing. Both positive and negative. I've looked at a number of frameworks in the past and the one that until recently was the highest on my list is Robot: http://code.google.com/p/robotframework/ I had looked

[openstack-dev] Horizon Issue

2013-11-12 Thread K S
Hi I'm a newbie to horizon and I'm working on a trove related issue. My use case is that on successful execution of the "workflow" in trove, I need to redirect the workflow to a view. Additionally I want to pass a couple of parameters from the workflow to the chained view. I have tried the followi

[openstack-dev] Help to review UBS patch

2013-11-12 Thread Wang, Shane
Hi stackers, >From the design summit, Boris has a great idea to improve db performance but >needs more evaluation because of memcached. For UBS, it seems we agree to go with the current solution and don't depend on Boris's great idea. Can someone help to review the ground work of UBS https://r

[openstack-dev] [nova] Help to review UBS patch

2013-11-12 Thread Wang, Shane
Hi stackers, >From the design summit, Boris has a great idea to improve db performance but >needs more evaluation because of memcached. For UBS, it seems we agree to go with the current solution and don't depend on Boris's great idea. Can someone help to review the ground work of UBS https://r

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal to recognize indirect contributions to our code base

2013-11-12 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 11/12/2013 01:58 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > This proposal raises several questions. > > (1) Is it a good idea to allow giving credit to patch sponsors > > On one hand, this encourages customers of OpenStack service companies to > fund sending back bugfixes and features upstream. Does it? I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-11-12 15:22:44 -0800: > On 12/11/13 10:32 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: > >Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-11 08:57:58 -0800: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I have just posted the following wiki page to reflect a refined proposal > >> for HO

Re: [openstack-dev] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-12 Thread Shawn Hartsock
not the video I was looking for, but he kind of makes the point about planning... http://youtu.be/2E0C9zLSINE?t=42m55s # Shawn Hartsock - Original Message - > From: "Shawn Hartsock" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2

Re: [openstack-dev] Glance Tasks

2013-11-12 Thread John Bresnahan
George, Thanks for the comments, they make a lot of sense. There is a Glance team meeting on Thursday where we would like to push a bit further on this. Would you mind sending in a few more details? Perhaps a sample of what your ideal layout would be? As an example, how would you prefer ac

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][mistral] EventScheduler vs Mistral scheduling

2013-11-12 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 12/11/13 15:13 -0800, Christopher Armstrong wrote: Given the recent discussion of scheduled autoscaling at the summit session on autoscaling, I looked into the state of scheduling-as-a-service in and around OpenStack. I found two relevant wiki pages: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/EventSched

Re: [openstack-dev] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-12 Thread Shawn Hartsock
- Original Message - > From: "Yunhong Jiang" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:39:58 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Custom Flavor creation through Heat > > -Original Message- > > From: Shawn Hartsock [

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][qa]Tempest tests for Ceilometer

2013-11-12 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> Hello, guys! > > I hope everybody has eventually got home after the summit and feeling ok :) > So it's time to proceed thinking about integration, unit and performance > testing in Ceilometer. First of all I'd like to appreciate your help in > composing etherpad > https://etherpad.openstack.or

[openstack-dev] [nova] Blueprint for Juniper OpenContrail vrouter nova vif driver support

2013-11-12 Thread Prasad Miriyala
Hi All, A blueprint has been registered to add Nova vif driver support for Juniper vrouter. The Juniper OpenContrail Controller is a logically centralized but physically distributed Software Defined Networking (SDN) controller that is responsible for providing the management, control, and anal

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 12/11/13 10:32 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-11 08:57:58 -0800: Hi all, I have just posted the following wiki page to reflect a refined proposal for HOT software configuration based on discussions at the design summit last week. Angus also put

[openstack-dev] [heat][mistral] EventScheduler vs Mistral scheduling

2013-11-12 Thread Christopher Armstrong
Given the recent discussion of scheduled autoscaling at the summit session on autoscaling, I looked into the state of scheduling-as-a-service in and around OpenStack. I found two relevant wiki pages: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/EventScheduler https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral/Cloud_Cron

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Chuck Short
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 16:42 -0500, Chuck Short wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Mark McLoughlin > > wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 13:11 -0800, Shawn Hartsock wrote: > > > Maybe we should ha

[openstack-dev] Alembic or SA Migrate (again)

2013-11-12 Thread Herndon, John Luke
Hi Folks! Sorry to dig up a really old topic, but I¹d like to know the status of ceilometer db migrations. I¹d like to submit two branches to modify the Event and Trait tables. If I were to do that now, I would need to write SQLAlchemy scripts to do the database migration - (background: https://b

Re: [openstack-dev] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-12 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
> -Original Message- > From: Shawn Hartsock [mailto:hartso...@vmware.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:56 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [heat] Custom Flavor creation through > Heat > > My concern with

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 12/11/13 21:49 +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 16:42 -0500, Chuck Short wrote: Hi On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 13:11 -0800, Shawn Hartsock wrote: > Maybe we should have some 60% rule... that is: If you ch

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue

2013-11-12 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Laski [mailto:andrew.la...@rackspace.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:07 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue > > On 11/11/13 at 05:27pm, Ji

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] Motion - Amend TC charter language to reflect Gender Parity

2013-11-12 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > I think it goes without saying that it makes sense to fix this. > Personally, I'm annoyed I didn't notice this before now. Agreed. Thanks for fixing this Anita. Michael -- Rackspace Australia __

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Shawn Hartsock
So the real argument for Mock over Mox is that Mock is part of the stdlib in Python 3.3 ... that seems like a pretty sound argument to me. # Shawn Hartsock - Original Message - > From: "Ben Nemec" > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:41:47 PM > S

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] really simple workflow for Heat configuration tasks

2013-11-12 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 12/11/13 13:04 +0100, Thomas Spatzier wrote: Hi Angus, that is an interesting idea. Since you mentioned the software config proposal in the beginning as a related item, I guess you are trying to solve some software config related issues with Mistral. So a few questions, looking at this purely

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] moratorium on new negative tests in Tempest

2013-11-12 Thread pcrews
On 11/12/2013 12:20 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 11/12/2013 02:33 PM, David Kranz wrote: On 11/12/2013 01:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-11-12 10:01:06 -0800: During the freeze phase of Havana we got a ton of new contributors coming on board to Tempest, wh

Re: [openstack-dev] Nova XML serialization bug 1223358 moving discussion here to get more people involved

2013-11-12 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
I personally don't see any problem with converting the Selector to handle empty objects. If we are concerned with hiding other exceptions, then we could explicitly check for == '' instead of catching TypeError. Vish On Nov 1, 2013, at 7:35 AM, "Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services)" wrote: > Hi a

Re: [openstack-dev] Improvement of Cinder API wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1213953

2013-11-12 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Caitlin Bestler wrote: > On 11/12/2013 10:42 AM, John Griffith wrote: > >> >> Sorry, but I'm not seeing where you're going with this in relation to >> the question being asked? The question is how to deal with creating a >> new bootable volume from nova boot comma

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2013-11-12 15:27, Shawn Hartsock wrote: Good point. I assume someone made a comparison similar to this: * http://garybernhardt.github.io/python-mock-comparison/ ... and evangelized a choice. I had assumed that Mock vs mox was not merely based on Python3 support but had something to do with M

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 16:42 -0500, Chuck Short wrote: > > Hi > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Mark McLoughlin > wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 13:11 -0800, Shawn Hartsock wrote: > > Maybe we should have some 60% rule... that is: If you change > more than >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Chuck Short
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-July/012474.html On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Shawn Hartsock wrote: > Good point. > > I assume someone made a comparison similar to this: > * http://garybernhardt.github.io/python-mock-comparison/ > > ... and evangelized a choice. I had

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] User registrations

2013-11-12 Thread Paul Belanger
On 13-11-11 01:31 AM, Lyle, David wrote: I think there is certainly interest. I do think it will need to be highly configurable to be useful. The problem, as Dolph points out, is that each deployment has its own workflow. Points of configuration: -Does the local keystone deployment policy su

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Chuck Short
Hi On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 13:11 -0800, Shawn Hartsock wrote: > > Maybe we should have some 60% rule... that is: If you change more than > > half of a test... you should *probably* rewrite the test in Mock. > > A rule needs a reasoning atta

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Meeting Reminder Thursday at 2000 UTC

2013-11-12 Thread Mark Washenberger
Hi folks, We'll have a Glance team meeting this Thursday at 2000 UTC (don't forget that UTC applies to both the time and the date!). In your timezone that is http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Glance+Meeting&iso=20131114T20&ah=1. As usual the meeting room is #openstack-meeti

Re: [openstack-dev] Motion - Amend TC charter language to reflect Gender Parity

2013-11-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Anita, On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 15:50 -0500, Anita Kuno wrote: > Currently some of the language found in the TC charter does not yet > reflect gender parity[0]. > > I encountered this myself while officiating the TC election, > particularly the section on Candidates for PTL seats[1]. > > I mov

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Shawn Hartsock
Good point. I assume someone made a comparison similar to this: * http://garybernhardt.github.io/python-mock-comparison/ ... and evangelized a choice. I had assumed that Mock vs mox was not merely based on Python3 support but had something to do with Mock versus Mox. Does anyone have that conte

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 13:11 -0800, Shawn Hartsock wrote: > Maybe we should have some 60% rule... that is: If you change more than > half of a test... you should *probably* rewrite the test in Mock. A rule needs a reasoning attached to it :) Why do we want people to use mock? Is it really for Pyt

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Configuration validation

2013-11-12 Thread Shawn Hartsock
Is there anything preventing these techniques from being included in a library that could be re-used between a stand-alone tool or a service init-hook? # Shawn Hartsock - Original Message - > From: "Oleg Gelbukh" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do we have some guidelines for mock, stub, mox when writing unit test?

2013-11-12 Thread Shawn Hartsock
Maybe we should have some 60% rule... that is: If you change more than half of a test... you should *probably* rewrite the test in Mock. # Shawn Hartsock - Original Message - > From: "John Garbutt" > To: "Mark McLoughlin" , "OpenStack Development Mailing > List (not for usage question

Re: [openstack-dev] Future of Project/release meetings, and skipping today's one

2013-11-12 Thread Mark McClain
Thierry- Would it be possible to use [PTL] as the subject prefix for these messages? It should make it easier for everyone to tag/filter them. mark On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We'll be skipping the project/release status meeting today (usually > hap

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Configuration validation

2013-11-12 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Gary, Nikola, The diagnostics service being developed by our labs could be of interest for you [1] The first use case we're working on is exactly what you suggest: validation of configuration parameters across services before running them [2] We now use a mix of approaches: 1. introduce extended

Re: [openstack-dev] Improvement of Cinder API wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1213953

2013-11-12 Thread Caitlin Bestler
On 11/12/2013 10:42 AM, John Griffith wrote: Sorry, but I'm not seeing where you're going with this in relation to the question being asked? The question is how to deal with creating a new bootable volume from nova boot command and be able to tell whether it's timed out, or errored while waiti

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [heat] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-12 Thread Shawn Hartsock
My concern with proliferating custom flavors is that it might play havoc with the underlying root-case for flavors. My understanding of flavors is that they are used to solve the resource packing problem in elastic cloud scenarios. That way you know that 256 "tiny" VMs fit cleanly into your har

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Climate] Reservation service called Climate

2013-11-12 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/06/13 at 09:47am, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Hi, During the Design session https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NovaIcehouse-Instance-Group-API we discussed the fact that this is not the role of Nova for doing atomic reservations in order to ensure the user needs will be met. We discussed that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [heat] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-12 Thread Steven Dake
On 11/12/2013 11:50 AM, Steven Dake wrote: On 11/12/2013 10:25 AM, Kodam, Vijayakumar (EXT-Tata Consultancy Ser - FI/Espoo) wrote: Hi, In Telecom Cloud applications, the requirements for every application are different. One application might need 10 CPUs, 10GB RAM and no disk. Another applica

[openstack-dev] Motion - Amend TC charter language to reflect Gender Parity

2013-11-12 Thread Anita Kuno
Currently some of the language found in the TC charter does not yet reflect gender parity[0]. I encountered this myself while officiating the TC election, particularly the section on Candidates for PTL seats[1]. I move that the language of the TC charter reflect gender parity. [0] https://w

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi, I agree with Clint that component placement specified inside component configuration is not a right thing. I remember that mostly everyone agreed that "hosted_on" should not be in HOT templates. When one specify placement explicitly inside a component definition it prevents the following: 1.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Christopher Armstrong
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-11 08:57:58 -0800: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have just posted the following wiki page to reflect a refined proposal > > for HOT software configuration based on discussions at the design summi

Re: [openstack-dev] Token Revocation using hash of token id

2013-11-12 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Eric Windisch wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Dolph Mathews > wrote: > > Relevant etherpad - > > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-token-revocation > > Thank you. I had presumed the etherpad was out of date as the > discussion at the summit cente

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] moratorium on new negative tests in Tempest

2013-11-12 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/12/2013 02:33 PM, David Kranz wrote: > On 11/12/2013 01:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: >> Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-11-12 10:01:06 -0800: >>> During the freeze phase of Havana we got a ton of new contributors >>> coming on board to Tempest, which was super cool. However it meant

Re: [openstack-dev] Code Review (Jenkins-job-builder, BlameUpstreamCommitters plugin support)

2013-11-12 Thread Joe Gordon
Please read http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Peter Liljenberg wrote: > Hi, > > Could someone review this please: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54085/ > > Regards, > Peter > > ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue

2013-11-12 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/11/13 at 05:27pm, Jiang, Yunhong wrote: Resend after the HK summit, hope someone can give me hint on it. Thanks --jyh -Original Message- From: Jiang, Yunhong [mailto:yunhong.ji...@intel.com] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:39 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject:

[openstack-dev] [infra] Meeting Tuesday November 12th at 19:00 UTC minutes and logs

2013-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team hosted our weekly meeting today, Tuesday November 12th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting minutes and logs here: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-11-12-19.03.html Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.o

[openstack-dev] [TRIPLEO] meeting minutes

2013-11-12 Thread Robert Collins
-- http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-11-12-19.00.html -- http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-11-12-19.00.log.html Cheers, rob Robert Collins Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] Token Revocation using hash of token id

2013-11-12 Thread Eric Windisch
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: > Relevant etherpad - > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-token-revocation Thank you. I had presumed the etherpad was out of date as the discussion at the summit centered around what appeared to be a text editor (vim or emacs), rather

Re: [openstack-dev] Token Revocation using hash of token id

2013-11-12 Thread Dolph Mathews
Relevant etherpad - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-token-revocation In the etherpad, we reverted the example for "explicit token revocation called on a single token" to use "expires_at" as the identifier for the event (rather than a hash of the token). Because rescoping tokens maintains

[openstack-dev] Code Review (Jenkins-job-builder, BlameUpstreamCommitters plugin support)

2013-11-12 Thread Peter Liljenberg
Hi, Could someone review this please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54085/ Regards, Peter ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] moratorium on new negative tests in Tempest

2013-11-12 Thread David Kranz
On 11/12/2013 01:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-11-12 10:01:06 -0800: During the freeze phase of Havana we got a ton of new contributors coming on board to Tempest, which was super cool. However it meant we had this new influx of negative tests (i.e. tests w

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS subteam meeting Thursday, 14, at 14-00 UTC

2013-11-12 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi folks, LBaaS subteam meeting will be held on Thursday, 14 at 14-00 UTC on #openstack-meeting irc channel on freenode, as specified in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#LBaaS_meeting The agenda is the following: 1. Blueprint list to be proposed for the icehouse-1 2. QA & third-party test

Re: [openstack-dev] New Pycharm License

2013-11-12 Thread Paul Michali
Andrew, I'd like to try out PyCharms Pro. Can I get a license (I'm an ATC for Neutron area). Thanks! PCM (Paul Michali) MAIL p...@cisco.com IRC pcm_ (irc.freenode.net) TW @pmichali signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [heat] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-12 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/13/2013 07:50 AM, Steven Dake wrote: > On 11/12/2013 10:25 AM, Kodam, Vijayakumar (EXT-Tata Consultancy Ser - > FI/Espoo) wrote: >> Hi, >> >> In Telecom Cloud applications, the requirements for every application >> are different. One application might need 10 CPUs, 10GB RAM and no >> disk. An

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [heat] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kodam, Vijayakumar (EXT-Tata Consultancy Ser - FI/Espoo)'s message of 2013-11-12 09:25:19 -0800: > Hi, > > In Telecom Cloud applications, the requirements for every application are > different. One application might need 10 CPUs, 10GB RAM and no disk. Another > application might n

[openstack-dev] [Savanna] Definition of template

2013-11-12 Thread Andrey Lazarev
Hi all, I want to raise the question "What template is". Answer to this question could influence UI, validation and user experience significantly. I see two possible answers: 1. Template is a simplification for object creation. It allows to keep common params in one place and not specify them each

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Subteam meeting

2013-11-12 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Ok, I'll repost date and time to openstack-dev again. Thanks, Eugene. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Stephen Wong wrote: > Hi Eugene, > > LBaaS meeting on #openstack-meeting was previously schedule on > Thursdays 1400UTC. And indeed it is still listed on > https://wiki.openstack.org/wik

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Subteam meeting

2013-11-12 Thread Stephen Wong
Hi Eugene, LBaaS meeting on #openstack-meeting was previously schedule on Thursdays 1400UTC. And indeed it is still listed on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings as such, so I believe keeping it in that timeslot should be fine. - Stephen On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Eugene Nikanoro

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Subteam meeting

2013-11-12 Thread Mark McClain
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Akihiro Motoki wrote: > > Hi Eugene, > > In my opinion, it is better the LBaaS meeting is held on > #openstack-meeting or #openstack-meeting-alt > as most OpenStack projects do. > > ++ Holding sub team meetings in standard meeting channels is a must for build

[openstack-dev] Token Revocation using hash of token id

2013-11-12 Thread Eric Windisch
During the token revocation discussion at the summit, I suggested it would be possible to revoke tokens using a hash of the token id (which is already an MD5 hash). That way, the revocation file would be able to specify individual hashes for revocation without dangerously presenting secrets. I sho

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][qa]Tempest tests for Ceilometer

2013-11-12 Thread Nadya Privalova
Hello, guys! I hope everybody has eventually got home after the summit and feeling ok :) So it's time to proceed thinking about integration, unit and performance testing in Ceilometer. First of all I'd like to appreciate your help in composing etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-sum

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Configuration validation

2013-11-12 Thread Tracy Jones
Mark - does Oslo.config already do any duplicate config checking? If not that’s probably a good place for that part On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Tracy Jones wrote: > Thanks folks for the interesting suggestions on this topic! I’ll b updating > the BP this week with this and other info i am

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [heat] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-12 Thread Steven Dake
On 11/12/2013 10:25 AM, Kodam, Vijayakumar (EXT-Tata Consultancy Ser - FI/Espoo) wrote: Hi, In Telecom Cloud applications, the requirements for every application are different. One application might need 10 CPUs, 10GB RAM and no disk. Another application might need 1 CPU, 512MB RAM and 100GB D

Re: [openstack-dev] Improvement of Cinder API wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1213953

2013-11-12 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Caitlin Bestler wrote: > On 11/12/2013 8:09 AM, John Griffith wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Solly Ross wrote: >>> >>> I'd like to get some sort of consensus on this before I start working on >>> it. Now that people are back from Summit, what woul

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] moratorium on new negative tests in Tempest

2013-11-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-11-12 10:01:06 -0800: > During the freeze phase of Havana we got a ton of new contributors > coming on board to Tempest, which was super cool. However it meant we > had this new influx of negative tests (i.e. tests which push invalid > parameters looking f

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-11 08:57:58 -0800: > > Hi all, > > I have just posted the following wiki page to reflect a refined proposal > for HOT software configuration based on discussions at the design summit > last week. Angus also put a sample up in an etherpad last wee

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] IPv6 sub-team?

2013-11-12 Thread Veiga, Anthony
As an IPv6 engineer interesting in helping Neutron get where it could be, I'd like to join in on this. I also like the Thursday 21:00 UTC slot. -Anthony -Original Message- From: Shixiong Shang Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: Tuesday, Novem

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Configuration validation

2013-11-12 Thread Tracy Jones
Thanks folks for the interesting suggestions on this topic! I’ll b updating the BP this week with this and other info i am gathering. Please let me know if you are interested in being involved in brainstorming on this issue and I will set up an irc meeting to discuss it further On Nov 11, 201

[openstack-dev] [qa] moratorium on new negative tests in Tempest

2013-11-12 Thread Sean Dague
During the freeze phase of Havana we got a ton of new contributors coming on board to Tempest, which was super cool. However it meant we had this new influx of negative tests (i.e. tests which push invalid parameters looking for error codes) which made us realize that human creation and review of n

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Do we need to clean up resource_id after deletion?

2013-11-12 Thread Christopher Armstrong
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 02/11/13 05:30, Clint Byrum wrote: > >> Excerpts from Christopher Armstrong's message of 2013-11-01 11:34:56 >> -0700: >> >>> Vijendar and I are trying to figure out if we need to set the resource_id >>> of a resource to None when it's bein

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Alex Heneveld
Thanks Steve, Zane, Mike. I withdraw the $idea ... for now (*). As a user who wants to move away from fiddling with infrastructure I like where this is going. :) --A (*) If there start to be lots of get_param usages and other keywords then perhaps $this -- and requiring $$ escapes -- or

[openstack-dev] [nova] [heat] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-12 Thread Kodam, Vijayakumar (EXT-Tata Consultancy Ser - FI/Espoo)
Hi, In Telecom Cloud applications, the requirements for every application are different. One application might need 10 CPUs, 10GB RAM and no disk. Another application might need 1 CPU, 512MB RAM and 100GB Disk. This varied requirements directly affects the flavors which need to be created for

Re: [openstack-dev] Improvement of Cinder API wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1213953

2013-11-12 Thread Caitlin Bestler
On 11/12/2013 8:09 AM, John Griffith wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Solly Ross wrote: I'd like to get some sort of consensus on this before I start working on it. Now that people are back from Summit, what would you propose? Best Regards, Solly Ross - Original Message - Fro

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter wrote on 11/12/2013 12:06:14 PM: > ... However, if > for any reason you have a dict key starting with "$" and we interpret > that specially, then you are basically hosed since you almost certainly > _needed_ it to actually start with "$" for a reason. So -1. > > cheers, > Zane. Y

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Zane Bitter
On 12/11/13 14:59, Alex Heneveld wrote: One minor suggestion is to consider using a special character (eg $) rather than reserved keywords. As I understand it the keywords are only interpreted when they exactly match the value of a key in a map, so it is already unlikely to be problematic. Howe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-12 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 01:59:35PM +, Alex Heneveld wrote: > This new proposal [1] looks like a very positive change on top of > [2]. Simpler both to read and write. Agreed, thanks Thomas for taking the time to write this up, it looks like a good reflection of what was discussed last week to

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] Proposal to recognize indirect contributions to our code base

2013-11-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 11/11/2013 06:47 PM, John Griffith wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange > > >> IMHO, lets call this what it is: "marketing". > >> > >> I'm fine with the idea of a company wanting to have recognition for work > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] Improvement of Cinder API wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1213953

2013-11-12 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Solly Ross wrote: > I'd like to get some sort of consensus on this before I start working on it. > Now that people are back from Summit, what would you propose? > > Best Regards, > Solly Ross > > - Original Message - > From: "Solly Ross" > To: "OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] Improvement of Cinder API wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1213953

2013-11-12 Thread Solly Ross
I'd like to get some sort of consensus on this before I start working on it. Now that people are back from Summit, what would you propose? Best Regards, Solly Ross - Original Message - From: "Solly Ross" To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Sent: Tuesday

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Subteam meeting

2013-11-12 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
I agree that it would be better to hold it on a channel with a bot which keeps logs. I just found that most convenient slots are already taken on both openstack-meeting and openstack-meeting-alt. 14-00 UTC is convenient for me so I'd like to hear other opinions. Thanks, Eugene. On Tue, Nov 12

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