Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] graduating oslo.middleware

2014-07-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 23, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: > On 2014-07-23 13:25, gordon chung wrote: > >> > I left a comment on one of the commits, but in general here are my >> > thoughts: >> > 1) I would prefer not to do things like switch to oslo.i18n outside of >> > Gerrit. I realize we don't have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.cfg] Dynamically load in options/groups values from the configuration files

2014-07-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 23, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Baohua Yang wrote: > Hi, all > The current oslo.cfg module provides an easy way to load name known > options/groups from he configuration files. > I am wondering if there's a possible solution to dynamically load them? > > For example, I do not kn

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] overuse of 'except Exception'

2014-07-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 24, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Chris Dent wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> That's bad enough, but much worse, this will catch all sorts of >>> exceptions, even ones that are completely unexpected and ought to >>> cause a more drasti

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.cfg] Dynamically load in options/groups values from the configuration files

2014-07-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 24, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Jul 23, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Baohua Yang wrote: > >> Hi, all >> The current oslo.cfg module provides an easy way to load name

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.cfg] Dynamically load in options/groups values from the configuration files

2014-07-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 24, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Jul 24, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.cfg] Dynamically load in options/groups values from the configuration files

2014-07-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 24, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Jul 24, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Doug Hellmann >&g

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] overuse of 'except Exception'

2014-07-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 24, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Chris Dent wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jul 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> I don’t claim any special status except that I was there and am >> trying to provide background on why things are as they are. :-) > > I think that counts and I very much

Re: [openstack-dev] debug logs and defaults was (Thoughts on the patch test failure rate and moving forward)

2014-07-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 25 July 2014 08:01, Sean Dague wrote: > >>> I'd like us to think about whether they is anything we can do to make >>> life easier in these kind of hard debugging scenarios where the regular >>> logs are not sufficient. >> >> Agreed. Hone

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.cfg] Dynamically load in options/groups values from the configuration files

2014-07-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 25, 2014, at 1:19 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Jul 24, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Doug Hellmann >&g

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][oslo][ceilometer] Moving PyCADF from the Oslo program to Identity (Keystone)

2014-07-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 25, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: > Hello everyone, > > This is me waving my arms around trying to gather feedback on a change in > scope that seems agreeable to a smaller audience. Most recently, we've > discussed this in both the Keystone [1] and Oslo [2] weekly meetings. >

[openstack-dev] [oslo] team meeting for 1 Aug cancelled

2014-07-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
As we discussed during today’s meeting, we will not hold a meeting next week (1 Aug 2014). A lot of the team is either taking vacation or traveling for other reasons. We will resume meeting on 8 Aug. Doug ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.cfg] Dynamically load in options/groups values from the configuration files

2014-07-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
s can be and which options can be included in the section? Doug > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Jul 23, 2014, at 11:10

Re: [openstack-dev] [gate] The gate: a failure analysis

2014-07-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 28, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Angus Lees wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 04:39:49 PM David Kranz wrote: >> On 07/21/2014 04:13 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: >>> On 07/21/2014 02:03 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Thanks Matthew for the analysis. I think you missed something though. Right no

Re: [openstack-dev] Glance Store Future

2014-08-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 4, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 08/04/2014 09:09 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: >> Duncan Thomas >> On Aug 1, 2014 9:44 PM, "Jay Pipes" > > wrote: >> >> > Yup. Though I'd love for this code to live in olso, not glance... >> >> Why Oslo? There seems to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo-incubator] rpc.cleanup method is not reachable due to wrong import of rpc module

2014-08-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Malawade, Abhijeet wrote: > Hi all, > > rpc module is not imported properly in nova, cinder, neutron projects. It is > imported from wrong package. > In oslo-incubator 'rpc' module is used in openstack/common/service.py file > and it is present at openstack/com

[openstack-dev] oslo.vmware 0.5.0 released

2014-08-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce that oslo.vmware 0.5.0, the latest version of the OpenStack/VMware integration library, has been released. This version includes: * _trunc_id to check if the session_id is not None * Enabled hacking check H305 * Imported Translations from Transifex * Add cons

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 7, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:27 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: >> On 07/08/14 16:27, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: >>> On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo before importing any >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 6, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Michael Still wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we >> produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core >> reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Correct way to disable specific event collection by the collector

2013-09-11 Thread Doug Hellmann
You can configure the collector's pipeline to only listen to certain events, but you shouldn't need to worry about which plugins it actually loads. See etc/pipeline.yaml in the source tree for an example file. I don't see any docs for that file, but I might be looking in the wrong place. If you add

[openstack-dev] new git plugin for finding the jenkins logs for your patchset

2013-09-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
Our jenkins server stores the logs for all of the test jobs related to a commit on http://logs.openstack.org, organized by the commit hash. To review the logs after a job runs, most developers start with the message jenkins leaves on gerrit, and click through to the log files. Not all jenkins jobs

[openstack-dev] [Oslo] PTL Candidacy

2013-09-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
I am running for PTL for the OpenStack Common Libraries (Oslo) project. I have been programming in Python professionally for 15 years, in a variety of application areas. I am a member of the Python Software Foundation, have been on the PyCon Program Committee, and was Editor in Chief of Python Mag

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Python-neutronclient failing with pyparsing 2.0.1, probably issue is in python-cliff / cliff-tablib

2013-09-22 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hi, > > Previously, upstream decided to use >= 1.5.7 for Python 2.x, then the > 2.x branch for Python 3.x. Then later on, Python 2.x was added to the > Pyparsing 2.x branch, and upstream released version 2.0.1, which has > support for both

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Python-neutronclient failing with pyparsing 2.0.1, probably issue is in python-cliff / cliff-tablib

2013-09-22 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/22/2013 10:10 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > I am working with the primary author on having a cmd2 release that uses > > pyparsing 2.0.1. That will allow us to be consistent in specifying our > > requirements. &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar] pecan models vs. db models

2013-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Petr Blaho wrote: > Hi, > > during my work on getting tests to pass for > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46947/ I discovered that we are > misusing pecan models for HTTP representation of Resources. > > In controllers pecan/wsme calls actions with pecan model p

Re: [openstack-dev] Client and Policy

2013-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 20/09/13 15:20 -0700, Monty Taylor wrote: > >> On 09/20/2013 02:55 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: >> >>> Not from a Gerrit perspective, but the Oslo policy is that a maintainer >>> +1 on the code they maintain is the equivalent of a +2, so only on

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo PTL election

2013-09-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Adam Young wrote: > On 09/23/2013 02:37 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > >> Hey >> >> I meant to send this as soon as nominations opened - I figure that >> incumbent PTLs should make it clear if they don't intend to nominate >> themselves for re-election. >> >> To tha

Re: [openstack-dev] Client and Policy

2013-09-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Adam Young wrote: > On 09/23/2013 03:21 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > >> On 20/09/13 15:20 -0700, Monty Taylor wrote: >> >>> On 09/20/2013 02:55 PM, B

Re: [openstack-dev] Client and Policy

2013-09-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 23/09/13 15:21 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> The policy code seems very tightly associated with the keystone work. >> There's >> no reason for Oslo to be the only program releasing reusable libraries. We

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Looking for input on optional sample pipelines branch

2013-10-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Wed, Oct 02 2013, Thomas Maddox wrote: > > > I'm working to make the sample pipeline optional and I'm stuck at a > > decision point about whether I ought to use a collector config option > > (like 'enable_sample_pipelines'), or let it be d

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Looking for input on optional sample pipelines branch

2013-10-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Thomas Maddox wrote: > On 10/3/13 4:09 PM, "Thomas Maddox" wrote: > > >On 10/3/13 8:53 AM, "Julien Danjou" wrote: > > > >>On Thu, Oct 03 2013, Thomas Maddox wrote: > >> > >>> Interesting point, Doug and Julien. I'm thinking out loud, but if we > >>>wanted > >>> to

[openstack-dev] Oslo meeting this week

2013-10-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team will be meeting this week to discuss delayed message translation. Please refer to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo for a few links relevant to the conversation. Date: 11 Oct 2013 Time: 1400 UTC Location: #openstack-meeting on freenode See you there! Doug __

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Looking for input on optional sample pipelines branch

2013-10-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Thomas Maddox wrote: > On 10/7/13 1:55 PM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Thomas Maddox > wrote: > >> On 10/3/13 4:09 PM, "Thomas Maddox" wrote: >> >> >On 10/3/

[openstack-dev] TC Candidacy

2013-10-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
I am announcing my candidacy for a position on the OpenStack Technical Committee. I have been programming in Python professionally for 15 years, in a variety of application areas, and am currently the development lead for DreamHost's OpenStack-based public cloud project, DreamCompute. I am a membe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Looking for input on optional sample pipelines branch

2013-10-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Thomas Maddox wrote: > On 10/7/13 3:49 PM, "Doug Hellmann" wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Thomas Maddox > wrote: > >> On 10/7/13 1:55 PM, "Doug Hellmann" >> wrote: >> >> &g

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo meeting this week

2013-10-11 Thread Doug Hellmann
The notes from the meeting and a link to the full logs can be found at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2013/oslo.2013-10-11-14.00.html On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > The Oslo team will be meeting this week to discuss delayed message > translation. >

Re: [openstack-dev] "Thanks for fixing my patch"

2013-10-11 Thread Doug Hellmann
Running "git review -d $gerrit_id" will download the patch and create a local branch for you. For example, if I wanted to work on Sandy's patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51249 I would "git review -d 51249". I can then amend the changeset, rebase, or whatever. Running "git review" will push

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [tempest] [ceilometer] Defining Diagnotics API Schema (was: looking for clarification...)

2013-10-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > "Open Ended API" isn't really an API. An API has a contract, otherwise it > isn't an API. > I need that saying on a t-shirt. > The diagnostics REST call currently seems to have no contract at all, and > is just implemented by the underlying

[openstack-dev] [oslo] icehouse summit session planning

2013-10-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
I will be reviewing the summit session proposals starting some time Friday 18th of October. If you have any topics you would like covered, please submit the details by 10:00:00 AM UTC. Thanks, Doug ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.opens

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] stabilizing internal APIs

2013-10-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: > Hi Fellow Developers (and those who interface with keystone at the code > level), > > I wanted to reach out to the ML and see what the opinions were about > starting to stabilize the internal APIs (wherever possible) for the > keystone pro

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What validation feature is necessary for Nova v3 API

2013-10-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Thank you for your response. > > 2013/10/16 Christopher Yeoh > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Kenichi Oomichi < >> oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> # I resend this because gmail distinguished my

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Mathew R Odden wrote: > Łukasz Jernaś wrote on 10/16/2013 02:26:28 AM: > > > > I'm still trying to wrap my head around the need for translating API > > messages and log messages as IMHO it adds a lot more problems for app > > developers and log analysis tools, e

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:55 AM, John S Warren wrote: > With regard to > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/i18n-messages > > I think it would be helpful to define the high-level design > alternatives, before delving into technical details such as > "magic". To that end, here are the a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-17 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 3:38 PM, John S Warren wrote: > Doug Hellmann wrote on 10/16/2013 03:11:12 > PM: > > > > > > This doesn't quite match my understanding. > > > > IIUC, approach 1 was taken during havana and the resulting class did > > not

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:24 PM, John Dennis wrote: > On 10/17/2013 12:22 PM, Luis A. Garcia wrote: > > On 10/16/2013 1:11 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> > >> [snip] > >> Option 3 is closer to the new plan for Icehouse, which is to have _() > >> ret

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] i18n Message improvements

2013-10-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:21 PM, John Dennis wrote: > On 10/18/2013 12:57 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:24 PM, John Dennis > <mailto:jden...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > > On 10/17/2013 12:22 PM, Luis A.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What validation feature is necessary for Nova v3 API

2013-10-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
> > Could you check them? > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:51 AM > > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What validation fe

[openstack-dev] [oslo] team meeting this friday

2013-10-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team will be meeting Friday at 1400 UTC in the #openstack-meeting channel on IRC. The main item on the agenda is finishing the plans for fixing the delayed translation feature of gettextutils. See https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo for more details. Thanks, Doug __

[openstack-dev] Oslo summit etherpads

2013-10-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
I have created etherpads for all of the Oslo sessions for the summit, and linked them from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Oslo. If you have an Oslo session scheduled, and already have an etherpad created, please update the link (there's no need to move the content). Tha

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] new libraries

2013-10-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Endre Karlson wrote: > oslo.logging > oslo.db > > Is there any ideas on introducing these libraries post-summit time? > We're putting together notes about the state of each part of the Oslo incubator in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-oslo-status to prep

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Choice of API infrastructure

2013-11-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 11/02/2013 11:26 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > >> On 11/02/2013 11:54 AM, Adrian Otto wrote: >> >>> Noorul, >>> >>> I agree that key decisions should be tracked in blueprints. This is the >>> one for this decision which was made in our 2013-10-

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Choice of API infrastructure

2013-11-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Noorul Islam K M wrote: > Doug Hellmann writes: > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > > >> On 11/02/2013 11:26 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > >> > >>> On 11/02/2013 11:54 AM, Adrian Otto wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Choice of API infrastructure

2013-11-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
g > viewpoints. > Ditto. :-) > > Comments inline. > > > On 11/04/2013 06:58 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Jay Pipes > <mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On 11/02/2013 11:26 PM, Russell B

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Choice of API infrastructure

2013-11-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 11/07/2013 06:41 PM, Adrian Otto wrote: > >> Solum Team, >> >> First of all I wanted to say that I have been thinking a lot about this >> thread, and have been seeking input from a number of you who attended the >> Summit this week. I do *not*

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] Proposal to recognize indirect contributions to our code base

2013-11-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 11/11/2013 06:47 PM, John Griffith wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange > > >> IMHO, lets call this what it is: "marketing". > >> > >> I'm fine with the idea of a company wanting to have recognition for work > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Straw man to start the incubation / graduation requirements discussion

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Sean Dague wrote: > > [...] Proposed Incubation requirements > > Once something becomes an > > integrated project, it's important that they are able to ru

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Command Line Interface for Solum

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Noorul Islam K M wrote: > > Hello all, > > I registered a new blueprint [1] for command line client interface for > Solum. We need to decide whether we should have a separate repository > for this or go with new unified CLI framework [2]. Since Solum is not > part

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Configuration validation

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hi Nikola, > > On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 12:44 +0100, Nikola Đipanov wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > During the summit session on the the VMWare driver roadmap, a topic of > > validating the passed configuration prior to starting services came up

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Using of oslo.config options in openstack.common modules

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Roman Podoliaka wrote: > Hi Flavio, > > Thanks for sharing this! I attended that session, but haven't seen the > corresponding blueprint before. > > Nevertheless, I'm not sure that implementing this entirely solves the > original problem. Removing import side-effec

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][qa]Tempest tests for Ceilometer

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Nadya Privalova wrote: > Hello, guys! > > I hope everybody has eventually got home after the summit and feeling ok > :) So it's time to proceed thinking about integration, unit and performance > testing in Ceilometer. First of all I'd like to appreciate your help i

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Proposed Icehouse release schedule

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Dolph Mathews wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > >> On 11/13/2013 08:15 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> > Two options are possible for that "off" week: >> > >> > * Week of April 21 - this one is just after release, and some people >> >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Configuration validation

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Oleg Gelbukh wrote: > Doug, > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Doug Hellmann < > doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: >> >>&g

Re: [openstack-dev] [ALL] Removing generate_uuid() from uuidutils

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Zhongyue Luo wrote: > Hi all, > > We had a discussion of the modules that are incubated in Oslo. > > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-oslo-status > > One of the conclusions we came to was to deprecate/remove uuidutils in > this cycle. > > The first step in

[openstack-dev] [oslo] team meeting Friday 15 November @ 14:00 UTC

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team will meet in #openstack-meeting this Friday at 1400 UTC to discuss the i18n work and planning based on the outcome of the summit. See https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting for a more detailed agenda. Doug ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [ALL] Removing generate_uuid() from uuidutils

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Eric Windisch wrote: > >> Each project should directly use the standard uuid module or implement > its > >> own helper function to generate uuids if this patch gets in. > >> > >> Any thoughts on this change? Thanks. > > > > > > Unfortunately it looks like that chan

Re: [openstack-dev] [ALL] Removing generate_uuid() from uuidutils

2013-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Michael Still wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Eric Windisch > wrote: > > > I don't think it is a problem to remove the code in oslo first, as > > long as no other oslo-incubator code uses it. Projects don't have to > > sync the code and could always rev

[openstack-dev] [oslo] tracking graduation status for incubated code

2013-11-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
During our meeting today, we talked about how to track the graduation status for the incubator code. I copied the notes from the summit session where we talked about the status of a lot of the modules into a wiki page for longer-term tracking ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/GraduationStatus)

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] team meeting Friday 15 November @ 14:00 UTC

2013-11-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > The Oslo team will meet in #openstack-meeting this Friday at 1400 UTC to > discuss the i18n work and planning based on the outcome of the summit. See > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Command Line Interface for Solum

2013-11-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Adrian Otto wrote: > Doug, > > On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Noorul Islam K M wrote: > >> >> Hello all, >> >> I registered a new blueprint

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Layering olso.messaging usage of config

2013-11-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: > Hi Oslo developers, > > It seems my latest patch¹ on oslo.messaging scared Mark, so I'll try to > discuss it a bit on this mailing list as it is more convenient. > > I've created a blueprint² as requested by Mark. That seems necessary > sinc

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Devananda van der Veen < devananda@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Lianhao Lu, > > I briefly summarized my recollection of that session in this blueprint: > > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/add-ceilometer-agent > > I've responded to your questions inline

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Devananda van der Veen < devananda@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Doug Hellmann < > doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com> wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Devananda van der Veen < >&

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Ladislav Smola wrote: > Hello. I have a couple of additional questions. > > 1. What about IPMI data that we want to get by polling. E.g. temperatures, > etc. Will the Ironic be polling these kind of > data and send them directly to collector(or agent)? Not su

Re: [openstack-dev] unittests on devstack hosts

2013-06-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 06/18/2013 10:35 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > On 2013-06-17 18:06, Monty Taylor wrote: > >> - Should unittests work outside of a venv on a devstack host. > >> > >> I argue yes. I see absolutely no reason why it shouldn't work - all of > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] XML Support for Nova v3 API

2013-06-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 06/20/2013 12:00 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Christopher Yeoh wrote: > >> Just wondering what people thought about how necessary it is to keep XML > >> support for the Nova v3 API, given that if we want to drop it doing so > >> during

Re: [openstack-dev] XML Support for Nova v3 API

2013-06-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Brant Knudson wrote: > > How about a mapping of JSON concepts to XML like: > > collections: > the-value ... > the-value ... > > values: > text > > > > number > > This type of mapping would remo

Re: [openstack-dev] XML Support for Nova v3 API

2013-06-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > > On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya > wrote: > >> >> On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Brant Knudson wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] defaults: making OpenStack work out of the box.

2013-06-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 05/29/2013 08:48 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Thierry Carrez > <mailto:thie...@openstack.org>> wrote: > > > > Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Cinder API Web Framework Change

2013-06-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:53 PM, John Griffith wrote: > All, > > I wanted to loop the larger community in on some discussions that have > been taking place on #openstack-cinder. > > During the Summit we talked about switching to Pecan for our API/Web > framework. Since then we've registered a B

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Making logging more modular

2013-06-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Macdonald-Wallace, Matthew < matthew.macdonald-wall...@hp.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > One of the things we'd like to start thinking about is having the ability > to log to multiple destinations at the same time. > > This would include a move towards making the loggin

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Making logging more modular

2013-06-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
riate) than rewrite the logging section of the code. > > > ** ** > > Kind regards, > > ** ** > > Matt > > ** ** > > *From:* Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] > *Sent:* 26 June 2013 14:04 > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List > *Subj

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Unified logging and Eventlet conflict

2013-06-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
This isn't something the deployer controls, so I don't know if we want it to go into a config setting. If we can't detect eventlet being used automatically, we could provide an initialization function in the locals module so projects could change the behavior when a process starts. The default mod

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Unified logging and Eventlet conflict

2013-06-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
hat point, too, I don't know). > > > >> Doug, >> did you mean threading.local with WeakValueDictionary? >> > Yes, that looks like it would let us match up the semantics. Doug > >> -- dims >> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Doug Hellman

[openstack-dev] [Oslo] moving sphinx theme for development docs to a library

2013-07-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
As part of the oslo.sphinx blueprint, I am working on moving the theme we use for the development docs out of all of the various projects and into a reusable library. The first change, to put the theme into a new repository, is up for review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35202/ I would appre

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] moving sphinx theme for development docs to a library

2013-07-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Monday, July 1, 2013, Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Doug Hellmann > 'doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com');> > > wrote: > >> As part of the oslo.sphinx blueprint, I am working on moving the theme we >> use for the develo

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Basic definition of OpenStack Programs and first batch

2013-07-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 2 July 2013 21:32, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> """ > >> 'OpenStack Programs' are efforts which are essential to the completion > >> of our mission. Programs can create any code repository and produce any > >> deli

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: Basic definition of OpenStack Programs and first batch

2013-07-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 07/02/2013 05:46 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Robert Collins > > mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net>> wrote: > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] Work around DB in OpenStack (Oslo, Nova, Cinder, Glance)

2013-07-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Michael Still wrote: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > > > Question: > > Why we should put in oslo slqlalchemy-migrate monkey patches, when we > are > > planing to switch to alembic? > > > > Answer: > >If we don’t put in oslo sqlalche

Re: [openstack-dev] Ceilometer XSD

2013-07-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
The instructions for getting set up to contribute to OpenStack in general are at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute (maybe you've already done that, I'm not sure). As far as this specific change goes, I would have to understand more about what it is that you want added to give speci

Re: [openstack-dev] Program description for Oslo

2013-07-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Hey > > The mission statement is what we've been using for a while. The > "official title" is new. > > Official Title: OpenStack Common Libraries > PTL: Mark McLoughlin > Mission Statement: > To produce a set of python libraries

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:57 PM, David Ripton wrote: > On 07/10/2013 02:01 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: > >> HI folks >> >> I would like to ask the review criteria in the community. >> >> Should we use exception for non-exceptional cases when we can use >> parameter checking? >> >> Example1: Default

Re: [openstack-dev] [Review] Use of exception for non-exceptional cases

2013-07-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: > > Somewhat offtopic, but others might find it interesting. On another > project I used a different technique for exceptions, where the original > exception is "enhanced" with new fields as it propagates up the stack to > where it's handled.

Re: [openstack-dev] [OSLO] Comments/Questions on Messaging Wiki

2013-07-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM, William Henry wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been reading through the Messaging Wiki and have some comments. Not > criticisms, just comments and questions. > I have found this to be a very useful document. Thanks. > > 1. "There are multiple backend transport drivers w

Re: [openstack-dev] [OSLO] Comments/Questions on Messaging Wiki

2013-07-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:09 PM, William Henry wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 12, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:40 PM, William Henry wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've been rea

Re: [openstack-dev] olso-config dev requirement

2013-07-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > I was looking in to dependency processing as part of some pbr change, > which got me to look at the way we're doing oslo-config dev requirements > again. To start, this email is not about causing us to change what we're > doing, only possibl

Re: [openstack-dev] [OSLO] Comments/Questions on Messaging Wiki

2013-07-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:15 PM, William Henry wrote: > > > -- > > > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:09 PM, William Henry wrote: > >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 12, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Doug Hellmann

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] sqlite doesn't support migrations

2013-07-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dolph Mathews wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > >> Hi Dolph, >> >> Yes, I agree that there are some problems with sqlite and migrations. >> But I am not agree with approach of fully removing sqlite. >> >> It is pretty useful for

Re: [openstack-dev] [OSLO] Comments/Questions on Messaging Wiki

2013-07-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 07/15/2013 02:36 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > The namespace relates to the API implementation inside the receiver. The > > way it currently works is the receiver subscribes to messages on a > > topic/exchange pa

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] Is there need to implement CloudWatch compatible API for Ceilometer?

2013-07-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
There are a few folks working on an alarm API in ceilometer already. See https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/alarming for the details. Doug On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Guangyu Suo wrote: > Hi, all > > Since ceilometer is becoming stronger at monitoring side, more and more >

Re: [openstack-dev] olso-config dev requirement

2013-07-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 14:28 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Monty Taylor > wrote: > > > > > I was looking in to dependency processing as part of some pbr change, > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Change I30b127d6] Cheetah vs Jinja

2013-07-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:41:55AM -0400, Solly Ross wrote: > > (This email is with regards to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36316/) > > > > Hello All, > > > > I have been implementing the Guru Meditation Report blueprint > > (https:/

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