Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.log] JSON logs are missing the request ID

2018-01-18 Thread Sean Dague
penStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > -- Sean Dague http://dague.net _

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] cyclomatic complexity check in flake8 & Python 3

2017-12-12 Thread Sean Dague
complex (37) ./nova/tests/functional/api_samples_test_base.py:144:5: C901 'ApiSampleTestBase._compare_result' is too complex (36) I honestly think this is one of the things that you declare a flag day a couple weeks out, warn everyone they a

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Why we return a redirect (302) when request to 'GET /v2.1'?

2017-11-02 Thread Sean Dague
tifact of the way that paste builds pipelines, and the way our resources need urls. I was trying to see if we generate it on our side, but I'm not seeing it, so I suspect this is just a consequence of the resource mapper and

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Limits work stalled - next steps, need for new leadership

2017-10-18 Thread Sean Dague
  > Thanks. > > > [1]: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441203 > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455709 > > 2017-09-08 3:18 GMT+08:00 Sean Dague <mailto:s...@dague.net>>: > > This is an email that's probably overdue, but time gets away fro

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][infra][devstack] Changes to devstack-core for zuul v3 migration

2017-10-10 Thread Sean Dague
vstack >> codebase > > +2 on both of these proposals! Agreed +2. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ..

Re: [openstack-dev] [ptl][tc] Accessible upgrade support

2017-10-07 Thread Sean Dague
own / rebuild when started. I'd be happy to be wrong about that, but was told in the past that it was just an OVS limitation. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not f

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Should we make rebuild + new image on a volume-backed instance fail fast?

2017-10-06 Thread Sean Dague
ow this is effectively a silent 500 (giving a 202 that we know will never actually do what is asked). -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra][Nova] s390x zKVM CI

2017-10-06 Thread Sean Dague
objectstorage.softlayer.net/v1/AUTH_3d8e6ecb-f597-448c-8ec2-164e9f710dd6/pkvmci/nova/11/457711/35/check/tempest-dsvm-full-xenial/ec523a2/"; rel="nofollow">tempest-dsvm-full-xenial SUCCESS in 53m 59s Those css classes are used as selectors by the Toggle CI code to extract test resu

Re: [openstack-dev] [ptl][tc] Accessible upgrade support

2017-10-05 Thread Sean Dague
hat are near the problem, they got confusing quick. I really think that some more pictoral upgrade safety cards or something explaining the things you need to consider, and what parts projects handle for you would be really useful. And then revisit whatever the tagging structure is going to be later.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Important information for people with in-repo Zuul v3 config

2017-10-04 Thread Sean Dague
ive things. There is a stop gap work around that's running tests right now - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509394/1/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh If it passes I'll approve it to get folks back to work. A longer term solution is probably n

Re: [openstack-dev] Security of Meta-Data

2017-10-04 Thread Sean Dague
vendor data is presented over both, if both are > enabled; config drive is presumably more secure. > > thanks, > Pino > > > > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-r

[openstack-dev] [nova] key_pair update on rebuild (a whole lot of conversations)

2017-10-03 Thread Sean Dague
keys, that would be ++. Rebuild doesn't wait on that, but Barbican urls for keys seems like a much better world to be in. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) U

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Zuul v3 Status - and Rollback Information

2017-10-03 Thread Sean Dague
tively be treated like 3rd party CI during the transition. Sounds good. The 80 / 20 split seems very reasonable, and a good way to let teams get back to work while letting the v3 effort make forward progress with real load to smoke out the issues. Thanks for flipping over to this model.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Update on Zuul v3 Migration - and what to do about issues

2017-10-03 Thread Sean Dague
patience! This is a giant rollout with a > bunch of changes in it, so we really do appreciate everyone's > understanding as we work through it all. > > Monty > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usa

Re: [openstack-dev] Nova docker replaced by zun?

2017-10-03 Thread Sean Dague
The project was shut down for that reason so that no one would mistakenly assume there was any maintenance or support on it. If you or others want to revive the project, that would be fine, as long as we can identify 2 individuals who will step up as maintainers. -Sea

[openstack-dev] [tc] [election] NON nomination for TC

2017-10-02 Thread Sean Dague
this fall, and thanks for letting me represent you the past 4 years. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [tc][nova][ironic][mogan] Evaluate Mogan project

2017-09-27 Thread Sean Dague
fold. Digging out of the multi year hole of "close but not exactly the same" API differences between nova-net and neutron really makes me want to make sure we never intentionally inflict that confusion on folks again. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] reset key pair during rebuilding

2017-09-27 Thread Sean Dague
out if the folks that mostly had it would also need it on reboot. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.or

Re: [openstack-dev] patches for simple typo fixes

2017-09-25 Thread Sean Dague
my back of the envelope math and spot checking on resources used, these really aren't a big concern. But it's harder to see that until we really start accounting for CI time by project / person, and what kinds of things really do consume th

Re: [openstack-dev] patches for simple typo fixes

2017-09-25 Thread Sean Dague
cess. If people are deeply concerned about CI resources, step one is to get some better accounting into the existing system to see where resources are currently spent, and how we could ensure that time is fairly spread around to ensure maximum productivity by all developers. -Sean -

Re: [openstack-dev] [skip-level-upgrades][fast-forward-upgrades] PTG summary

2017-09-20 Thread Sean Dague
re to explain the differences between them. Based on the confusion that kept seeming to come during discussions at the PTG, I think we need to circle around and figure out if there are different ways to explain this to have greater clarity. -Sean

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] dashboard query changes since upgrade

2017-09-19 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/19/2017 09:00 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > I've been iterating through gerrit dashboards this morning trying to > figure out why they no longer show any changes. > > It looks like the query: label:Code-Review>=-2,self now matches changes > you haven't voted on. P

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] dashboard query changes since upgrade

2017-09-19 Thread Sean Dague
a -2,-1,+1,+2 vote on them. I'll be poking around today to figure out what the options are to get equivalent functionality is out of the system, then update the gerrit dashboards in gerrit-dash-creator based on that. -Sean -- Sean Dagu

Re: [openstack-dev] removing screen from devstack - RSN

2017-09-08 Thread Sean Dague
-s-proxy.txt.gz > > People new to OpenStack don't really know that 'q' means neutron. > > > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Sean Dague <mailto:s...@dague.net>> wrote: > > On 08/31/2017 06:27 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > The work that starte

Re: [openstack-dev] removing screen from devstack - RSN

2017-09-07 Thread Sean Dague
p and getting this rolling. Eric Approved for merge, should be in shortly. Eric, thanks again for stepping up and pulling this all together. Very much appreciated. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dagu

Re: [openstack-dev] removing screen from devstack - RSN

2017-09-07 Thread Sean Dague
stemd.html Thanks, Eric Fried (efried) Thank you Eric. Would love to get a recommended pdb path into the docs. Ping me as soon as it's up for review, and I'll get it merged quickly. Thanks for stepping up here, it's highly appreciated.

[openstack-dev] Unified Limits work stalled - next steps, need for new leadership

2017-09-07 Thread Sean Dague
willing to step up there. If so please feel free to reach out, and we can carve out some PTG time in helping a new push organize here. However, without new leadership here, the current plan is to just put the effort to rest. -Sean -- Sean Dague http:/

Re: [openstack-dev] removing screen from devstack - RSN

2017-09-07 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/31/2017 06:27 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > The work that started last cycle to make devstack only have a single > execution mode, that was the same between automated QA and local, is > nearing it's completion. > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499186/ is the patch that

[openstack-dev] [nova] remove uml code from nova tree

2017-09-06 Thread Sean Dague
ested qemu, this hasn't been used for a very long time. I think this classifies as the kind of thing we can straight remove, and it will simplify a few things if we do. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net _

[openstack-dev] removing screen from devstack - RSN

2017-08-31 Thread Sean Dague
ously making jobs pretend to be grenade to keep screen running), now is the time to run tests against this patch and see where things stand. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (no

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposing Balazs Gibizer for nova-core

2017-08-28 Thread Sean Dague
ect from > a core maintainer of the project. > > So to the existing core team members, please respond with a yay/nay and > after about a week or so we should have a decision (knowing a few cores > are on vacation right now). > +1 -- Sean Dague http://dague.net ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docs] O search where art thou?

2017-08-11 Thread Sean Dague
or glance docs or cinder docs, etc. The following change will bring back local search behavior like that - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493107/ It will need to be landed and release, and probably backported to stable/pike give

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docs] O search where art thou?

2017-08-11 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/11/2017 10:49 AM, Anne Gentle wrote: > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 08/11/2017 08:50 AM, Anne Gentle | Just Write Click wrote: >>> Yeah, I need to circle back in the theme work to make sure both search >>> scopes are available. My p

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docs] O search where art thou?

2017-08-11 Thread Sean Dague
_search = True" which would get rid of swift_search and just use baked in local search. Then on a per site basic people could turn it on / off, and openstackdocstheme could still be used for sites that want global search. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docs] O search where art thou?

2017-08-11 Thread Sean Dague
nce docs or cinder docs, etc. Equally problematic, in the rbd search above it returns content from all published branches, and seems to be coming back in reverse order. So mitaka content is the first link for folks for searching from latest docs. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net

Re: [openstack-dev] [docs] importing openstack-manuals questions, looking for strategies

2017-08-09 Thread Sean Dague
of this imported documentation is going to need some heavy pruning / editing next cycle to get into shape). For now it's just a copy and paste of the old opts. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack D

Re: [openstack-dev] [docs] importing openstack-manuals questions, looking for strategies

2017-08-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/09/2017 09:24 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 08/09/2017 09:19 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2017-08-08 17:01:29 -0400: >>> When trying to import >>> https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/6f9fc171800e8a43501

Re: [openstack-dev] [docs] importing openstack-manuals questions, looking for strategies

2017-08-09 Thread Sean Dague
the 'show-options' directive. It uses > the same inputs as the sample file generator. See > https://docs.openstack.org/oslo.config/latest/reference/sphinxext.html for > details So in this case we could: .. show-options:: oslo.vmware And that would have the same impact? -Sean -

[openstack-dev] [docs] importing openstack-manuals questions, looking for strategies

2017-08-08 Thread Sean Dague
cinder ref once it shows up? If anyone has thoughts on the best resolutions here, that would be great. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [docs] Ideal landing page

2017-08-08 Thread Sean Dague
r content goes in /admin. See > http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html#proposed-change > for details. Ok, I guess a lot of things got binned incorrectly during the transition. I think the definition of user was less c

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docs] Concerns with docs migration

2017-08-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/07/2017 05:04 PM, Clark Boylan wrote: > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017, at 01:44 PM, Clark Boylan wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 08/02/2017 12:28 PM, Clark Boylan wrote: >>>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017, at 07:55 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: >

[openstack-dev] [nova] [docs] Ideal landing page

2017-08-07 Thread Sean Dague
be a couple of sections and landing documents where appropriate. Please chime in if you have opinions. Otherwise I'm going to start writing the rest of this tomorrow to try to get it all sorted for RC. -Sean -- Sean Dague http:/

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][Nova] Editing flavor causing instance flavor display error

2017-08-03 Thread Sean Dague
o think that "Copy and Modify" is a better paradigm. Or "New Flavor based on X" which will prefill based on an existing one. The Delete flavor button should come with a giant warning of "This will make a lot of information in your environment confusing, you sho

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][Nova] Editing flavor causing instance flavor display error

2017-08-03 Thread Sean Dague
o this is useful to them so that they can create new instances like the ones there. The only way to change the flavor of an instance is to resize it. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing L

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docs] Concerns with docs migration

2017-08-03 Thread Sean Dague
e and users: * CLI users (nova cli or openstack client) * Horizon users * API users (possibly using python APIs, possibly others) When a person shows up at our site from where ever, we should assume they are a CLI user. It&#

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docs] Concerns with docs migration

2017-08-03 Thread Sean Dague
; would be a simple enough >> rule that we wouldn't have to think too hard about where to put >> individual example files, which would speed up the migration. > > If I find a doc that tells me how to set up a VM with a Neutron > network and ports and subnets and floating IP

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docs] Concerns with docs migration

2017-08-02 Thread Sean Dague
we could get a weekly report of 404 urls posted somewhere public, that would be extremely useful, because the easy ones based on git renames are done, and everything else is going to require human inspection to figure out what the right landing target is. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][docs] Concerns with docs migration

2017-08-02 Thread Sean Dague
, than if I am not > *running* nova but am trying to use a nova deployed by someone else > and I start from the python-novaclient or python-openstackclient > docs because I installed one of those in order to talk to nova. > &

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [ironic] [nova] Trying again on wait_for_compute in devstack

2017-08-02 Thread Sean Dague
An issue with the xenserver CI was identified. Once we get this patch in, and backported to ocata, it should also address a frequent grenade multinode fail scenario which is plaguing the gate. -Sean On 08/02/2017 07:17 AM, Sean Dague wrote: The 3 node scenarios in Neutron (which are

[openstack-dev] [devstack] [ironic] [nova] Trying again on wait_for_compute in devstack

2017-08-02 Thread Sean Dague
this impacts your CI / jobs, please speak up. The CI runs on both the main and experimental queue on devstack for this change look pretty good, so I think we're safe to move forward this time. But we also thought that the last time

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Broken nova-lxd

2017-07-28 Thread Sean Dague
er (or fix it themselves). Choosing to do a driver out of tree is not recommended and comes with all of these risks. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions

[openstack-dev] [all] 404s on docs website after the great reorg

2017-07-27 Thread Sean Dague
ly getting in bounds to paths on the site that haven't been there for 8 years. It would be really good if we had a way (manual or automated) to have 301 redirects, that are fixable by the teams that now own the documentation (the project teams). -Sean -- Sean Dague h

Re: [openstack-dev] help required regarding devstack

2017-07-24 Thread Sean Dague
ttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >

[openstack-dev] [oslo] trying to understand CORS deprecation

2017-07-24 Thread Sean Dague
east I'm having a hard time finding anyone else in this stack calling set_latent. Is this just a circular bug on the cors.py module? -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing Li

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bug triage experimentation

2017-07-21 Thread Sean Dague
me pointers to your machine learning work that clustered things, I'd happily take a look and see how that matches with domain experts. Thanks a bunch for also diving in here! -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net _

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] loss of WSGI request logs with request-id under uwsgi/apache - PLAN OF ACTION

2017-07-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/20/2017 09:27 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > Here is a starting patch that gets us close (no tests yet) - > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485602/ - it's going to require a paste > change, which is less than idea. After some #openstack-nova IRC discussion this morning, we decided

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] loss of WSGI request logs with request-id under uwsgi/apache

2017-07-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/19/2017 06:28 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 7/19/2017 6:16 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> We hit a similar issue with placement, and added custom >> paste middleware for that. Maybe we need to consider a similar thing >> here, that would only emit if running under uwsgi/apa

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] loss of WSGI request logs with request-id under uwsgi/apache

2017-07-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/19/2017 06:28 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 7/19/2017 6:16 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> We hit a similar issue with placement, and added custom >> paste middleware for that. Maybe we need to consider a similar thing >> here, that would only emit if running under uwsgi/apa

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] loss of WSGI request logs with request-id under uwsgi/apache

2017-07-20 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/19/2017 09:46 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 7/19/2017 6:16 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> I was just starting to look through some logs to see if I could line up >> request ids (part of global request id efforts), when I realized that in >> the process to uwsgi by default, we

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][nova] Persistent application credentials

2017-07-20 Thread Sean Dague
will also physically remove their path to said clouds (as they are beyond the firewall). It's not true with public clouds, but it's not making the situation any worse, because right now it's shared passwords to accounts. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net

[openstack-dev] [nova] loss of WSGI request logs with request-id under uwsgi/apache

2017-07-19 Thread Sean Dague
seful to match up everything. We hit a similar issue with placement, and added custom paste middleware for that. Maybe we need to consider a similar thing here, that would only emit if running under uwsgi/apache? Thoughts? -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dagu

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bug triage experimentation

2017-07-12 Thread Sean Dague
right foot. It would be really nice if we could this as first class support and not bolt on later, because I fear we're going to get pretty complicated adhoc schema definitions here that have to be done client side. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dagu

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bug triage experimentation

2017-07-12 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/11/2017 04:31 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2017-07-10 07:33:28 -0400 (-0400), Sean Dague wrote: [...] Ideally storyboard would just be a lot more receptive to these kinds of things, by emitting a more native event stream, Well, there is http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, July 7th

2017-07-11 Thread Sean Dague
fluid than I would like today. Will be there if possible. I will also be unable to attend today due to being in a metal tube at the time of the meeting. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] scheduling oslosphinx for retirement at the start of queens

2017-07-10 Thread Sean Dague
so that we have a way to deal with bugs in existing > pike releases, but I think we can retire the repository at any point > after that. > > Thoughts? +1 and thanks for building the oslosphinx module years ago to start us down this standardization on themes. -Sean -

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bug triage experimentation

2017-07-10 Thread Sean Dague
e processing logic team specific is a good thing. It's much like the fact that we've largely done gerrit review dashboards client side, because they are fast to iterate on, then server side. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bug triage experimentation

2017-07-10 Thread Sean Dague
On 07/05/2017 03:07 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: >> >> >> On 06/23/2017 11:52 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> >>> The Nova bug backlog is just over 800 open bugs, which while >>> historically not terri

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bug triage experimentation

2017-06-28 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/28/2017 10:33 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > > On 06/23/2017 11:52 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> The Nova bug backlog is just over 800 open bugs, which while >> historically not terrible, remains too large to be collectively usable >> to figure out where things stand. We

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] New upgrade test tool proposal.

2017-06-27 Thread Sean Dague
cuting at the same time, breaks that. It's cool if someone wants to do it, however it definitely needs more dedicated folks on the review side to be successful. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Turning TC/UC workgroups into OpenStack SIGs

2017-06-27 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/27/2017 09:42 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Sean Dague wrote: >> I also think it's fine to rebrand WG to SIG, but we should also be >> honest that it's mostly a rebrand to consolidate on terminology that k8s >> and cncf have used that people find easier to under

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Turning TC/UC workgroups into OpenStack SIGs

2017-06-27 Thread Sean Dague
good grasp on the wide range of efforts, and these summaries by teams are pretty critical to increasing the shared understanding. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usag

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-27 Thread Sean Dague
unch of projects, it turns out that the needs of every project are different. The reason that multi project efforts seem to take so long, or die out, is they need a reasonable amount of project management to be effective. There are lots of demands on teams, and having someone that can represent a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bug triage experimentation

2017-06-26 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/26/2017 04:49 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > > Le 23/06/2017 18:52, Sean Dague a écrit : >> The Nova bug backlog is just over 800 open bugs, which while >> historically not terrible, remains too large to be collectively usable >> to figure out where things st

[openstack-dev] [nova] bug triage experimentation

2017-06-23 Thread Sean Dague
it seemed like a good time to try this out. Comments and other suggestions are welcomed. The tooling will have the nova flow in mind, but I'm trying to make it so it takes a project name as params on all the scripts, so anyone can use it. It's a little hack and slash right now to

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-23 Thread Sean Dague
gnee for everything. I agree, there should be a single name here. They can delegate and collect up a group, but at the end of the day one person should be responsible for it. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ Open

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][placement] Add API Sample tests for Placement APIs

2017-06-22 Thread Sean Dague
of examples so that people don't need to look at source code is not as high. I'm firmly in the camp that sample request / response is a good thing, but from a priorities perspective it's way more important to get that on end user APIs than quasi internal ones.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Moving away from "big tent" terminology

2017-06-22 Thread Sean Dague
l here. The topics / tags maintenance would be more, but those aren't changing so fast that I think they'd be too unweildly to keep close. As I have strong feelings that this all would help, I would be happy to volunteer to manually update that information. Just need enough access to d

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Moving away from "big tent" terminology

2017-06-22 Thread Sean Dague
organized as one-to-one mapping of repositories > to corresponding project. It created massive sprawl > within the ecosystem, limited opportunities for code sharing, > and made refactoring a nightmare. I lost count of the number > of times we submitted n inconsistent patches to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Moving away from "big tent" terminology

2017-06-22 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/22/2017 04:33 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Sean Dague wrote: >> [...] >> I think even if it was only solvable on github, and not cgit, it would >> help a lot. The idea of using github project tags and pinning suggested >> by Lauren seems great to me. >> &

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Moving away from "big tent" terminology

2017-06-21 Thread Sean Dague
openstack, and the rest to /openstack-ecosystem or something. Even if that's flat inside our gerrit and cgit environment. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing Lis

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler][placement] Trying to understand the proposed direction

2017-06-21 Thread Sean Dague
see what can be done about it. If not, > still better than nothing? I've actually looked through the blockdiag source (to try to solve a similar problem). There is no easy way to change it. If people find it confusing, the best th

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][qa][glance] some recent tempest problems

2017-06-16 Thread Sean Dague
#x27;t on Nova, Tempest, Glance, or Cinder), it wasn't applied there. It's also a question about why a library is doing different back end testing through full stack testing, instead of more targeted and controlled behavior. Which I think is probably also less than ideal. Both would be good

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][qa][glance] some recent tempest problems

2017-06-16 Thread Sean Dague
all projects right now, right? So I get there is some debate on that patch, but is it blocking anything? Again, we seem to be missing specifics and a set of events here, which lacking that everyone is trying to guess what the problems are, which I don't think is effective. -Sea

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][qa][glance] some recent tempest problems

2017-06-16 Thread Sean Dague
eels like it should be a reasonable specific thing to fix. It's not a grand issue, it's a specific mismatch on what configs should be common. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Devel

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] etcd v3.2.0?

2017-06-16 Thread Sean Dague
not existing in the infra mirror. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lis

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Strict validation in query parameters

2017-06-16 Thread Sean Dague
int of doing strict validation and returning a 400 is to help the user eliminate bugs in their program. If they specified marker twice either they thought it did something, or they made a mistake. Both are wrong. When we are silent on that front it means they may not be getting the behavior they wer

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][qa][glance] some recent tempest problems

2017-06-15 Thread Sean Dague
lity to work on issues that may have a higher > impact on end users. > > The point of this email is to find out whether anyone has a better > suggestion for how to handle this situation. It would be useful to provide detailed examples. Everything is trade offs, an

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Moving away from "big tent" terminology

2017-06-15 Thread Sean Dague
ver to the github namespace when we mirrored if it would clear a bunch of things up for people. It would just need to be an extra piece of info in our project list about where those projects should mirror to (which may not be the same namespace as in gerrit). -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.n

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Moving away from "big tent" terminology

2017-06-15 Thread Sean Dague
eplacing what was previously Stackforge, > replacing what was previously called "unofficial OpenStack projects") > will bring some clarity as to what is OpenStack and what is beyond it. I think those are all fine. The other term that popped into my head was "Friends of Op

[openstack-dev] [all] os-api-ref 1.4.0 about to hit upper-constraints

2017-06-14 Thread Sean Dague
warnings work, I'm not 100% confident this is going to be smooth for everyone. If you hit an issue in your api-ref building after this lands, please pop up on #openstack-dev and we'll try to work through it. -Sean -- Sean Dague http:/

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

2017-06-12 Thread Sean Dague
sues that current glance users are having. 80+ GB disk images could be classified as a special case of Artifacts, but it turns optimizing for their specialness is really important to a well functioning cloud. Glance might not be the most exciting project, but what seems to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc][glance] Glance needs help, it's getting critical

2017-06-12 Thread Sean Dague
to be tough to make meaningful contributions there without approve authority, especially given the normal trust building exercise for core teams takes 3+ months. It might be useful to figure out if there are a set of folks already in the community that the existing core team

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][requirements][all] removing global pins for linters

2017-06-12 Thread Sean Dague
let you set requirements lines to what are in that file. So that effectively prevents anyone from changing the linters lines ever (see http://logs.openstack.org/69/473369/1/check/gate-nova-requirements/b425844/console.html) -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net ___

Re: [openstack-dev] Is Routes==2.3.1 a binary only package or something?

2017-06-12 Thread Sean Dague
rch wheel. Is there a specific reason that's not going to work for you? (e.g. Routes-2.3.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl) -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) U

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Call for check: is your project ready for pylint 1.7.1?

2017-06-09 Thread Sean Dague
distracting, and definitely shouldn't be happening during the final milestone. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [glance] [cinder] [neutron] [ironic] - Global Request ID progress - update 6/9

2017-06-09 Thread Sean Dague
/. Ironic reviews to get that into shape for merge would be appreciated. Comments / questions welcomed. As well as anyone that's interested in expanding this support to additional services. -Sean -- Sean Dague ht

[openstack-dev] [neutron] plumbing in request-id passing back to nova

2017-06-08 Thread Sean Dague
oing to be able to keep track of the global_request_id coming from Nova originally, so that the admin events coming back to Nova are tagged with the original Nova initiating request? Any advise here, or help in understanding is very welcomed. Thanks in advance. -Sean

[openstack-dev] [nova] [glance] [cinder] [neutron] - Global Request ID progress

2017-06-06 Thread Sean Dague
hit a bump in the review process as there is a concern that it's changing the API. Though from an end user perspective that's not happening, it's just changing which field things get logged into. We'll see if we can work through that. -Sean -- Se

[openstack-dev] [glance] request_id middleware in glance

2017-06-05 Thread Sean Dague
and while good long term, is beyond scope right now), but I wanted to get an idea how this sits with the glance team. Thanks in advance, -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] [tc] [all] more tempest plugins (was Re: [tc] [all] TC Report 22)

2017-06-05 Thread Sean Dague
's shoulders, and letting it optimize for a better experience by OpenStack users. Especially given limited resources. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions

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