Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Deprecating the live_migration_flag and block_migration_flag config options

2016-01-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2016-01-08 at 14:11 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 09:07:00PM +0000, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 12:23 +0100, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 09:12:06PM +0000, Mark McLoughlin

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Deprecating the live_migration_flag and block_migration_flag config options

2016-01-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 12:23 +0100, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 09:12:06PM +0000, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > Hi > > > > commit 8ecf93e[1] got me thinking - the live_migration_flag config > > option unnecessarily allows operator

[openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Deprecating the live_migration_flag and block_migration_flag config options

2016-01-04 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi commit 8ecf93e[1] got me thinking - the live_migration_flag config option unnecessarily allows operators choose arbitrary behavior of the migrateToURI() libvirt call, to the extent that we allow the operator to configure a behavior that can result in data loss[1]. I see that danpb recently

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] naming of the project

2015-04-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Emilien, On Fri, 2015-04-17 at 10:52 -0400, Emilien Macchi wrote: On 04/16/2015 02:32 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: On 04/16/2015 02:23 PM, Richard Raseley wrote: Emilien Macchi wrote: Hi all, I sent a patch to openstack/governance to move our project under the big tent, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] interesting problem with config filter

2014-12-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Doug, On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 15:58 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: As we’ve discussed a few times, we want to isolate applications from the configuration options defined by libraries. One way we have of doing that is the ConfigFilter class in oslo.config. When a regular ConfigOpts instance is

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 11:53 -0700, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey all, I've recently been thinking a lot about Sean's Layers stuff. So I wrote a blog post which Jim Blair and Devananda were kind enough to help me edit. http://inaugust.com/post/108 Lots of great stuff here, but too much to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: - Do we need a messaging service with a feature-set akin to SQS+SNS? [...] I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, some sort of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 12:46 -0700, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/09/2014 07:04 PM, Samuel Merritt wrote: On 9/9/14, 4:47 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: The questions now before us are: - should OpenStack include, in the integrated release, a messaging-as-a-service component? I

[openstack-dev] [nova] libvirt version_cap, a postmortem

2014-08-30 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey The libvirt version_cap debacle continues to come up in conversation and one perception of the whole thing appears to be: A controversial patch was ninjaed by three Red Hat nova-cores and then the same individuals piled on with -2s when a revert was proposed to allow further

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging] Request to include AMQP 1.0 support in Juno-3

2014-08-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-08-28 at 13:24 +0200, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 08/27/2014 03:35 PM, Ken Giusti wrote: Hi All, I believe Juno-3 is our last chance to get this feature [1] included into olso.messaging. I honestly believe this patch is about as low risk as possible for a change that

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-27 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 10:00 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 15:06 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 8, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Launchpad tracking of oslo projects

2014-08-26 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-08-22 at 11:59 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: TL;DR: Let's create an Oslo projectgroup in Launchpad to track work across all Oslo libraries. In library projects, let's use milestones connected to published versions rather than the common milestones. Sounds good to me, Thierry.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-26 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 15:06 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 8, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: That’s right. The preferred approach is to put the register_opt() in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-08-22 at 11:01 -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: I don't see that as something the wider OpenStack community needs to dictate. We have a heavyweight election process for PTLs once every cycle because that used to be the process for electing the TC. Now that it no longer serves this

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 14:23 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: Here's why folk are questioning Ceilometer: Nova is a set of tools to abstract virtualization implementations. Neutron is a set of tools to abstract SDN/NFV implementations. Cinder is a set of tools to abstract

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-14 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 15:56 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at documenting

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-14 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 15:56 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at documenting

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 18:03 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the ultimate success or failure of OpenStack. With this cycle we hit new limits in our

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 09:30 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: While I definitely think re-balancing our quality responsibilities back into the projects will provide an overall better release, I think it's going to take a long time before it lightens our load to the point where we get more breathing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 15:36 -0700, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: Yes. Additionally, and I think we've been getting better at this in the 2 cycles that we've had an all-elected TC, I think we need to learn how to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 14:26 -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: It seems like this is exactly what the slots give us, though. The core review team picks a number of slots indicating how much work they think they can actually do (less than the available number of blueprints), and then blueprints

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 14:12 -0700, Joe Gordon wrote: Here is the full nova proposal on Blueprint in Kilo: Runways and Project Priorities https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112733/ http://docs-draft.openstack.org/33/112733/4/check/gate-nova-docs/5f38603/doc/build/html/devref/runways.html

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] so what do i do about libvirt-python if i'm on precise?

2014-08-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 10:26 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:09:52PM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 15:34 -0700, Clark Boylan wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-07-30 13:21:10 -0700 (-0700), Joe Gordon

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] stable branches failure to handle review backlog

2014-08-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-07-29 at 14:04 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Ihar Hrachyshka a écrit : On 29/07/14 12:15, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Looking at the current review backlog I think that we have to seriously question whether our stable branch review process in Nova is working to an acceptable

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] 3rd Party CI vs. Gerrit

2014-08-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 12:05 -0700, James E. Blair wrote: cor...@inaugust.com (James E. Blair) writes: Sean Dague s...@dague.net writes: This has all gone far enough that someone actually wrote a Grease Monkey script to purge all the 3rd Party CI content out of Jenkins UI. People are

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 15:25 -0700, Joe Gordon wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 09:06 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/07/2014 08:06 PM, Michael Still wrote: It seems to me

[openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the procedure to be:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] so what do i do about libvirt-python if i'm on precise?

2014-08-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 15:34 -0700, Clark Boylan wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-07-30 13:21:10 -0700 (-0700), Joe Gordon wrote: While forcing people to move to a newer version of libvirt is doable on most environments, do we want to do that now?

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Jay Pipes for nova-core

2014-08-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 14:02 -0700, Michael Still wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate Jay Pipes for the nova-core team. Jay has been involved with nova for a long time now. He's previously been a nova core, as well as a glance core (and PTL). He's been around so long that there are

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 09:06 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/07/2014 08:06 PM, Michael Still wrote: It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer libvirts that we don't CI on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a possible

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-07-17 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 09:58 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 08:46:12AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Top posting to the original email because I want this to stand out... I've added this to the agenda for the nova mid cycle meetup, I think most of the contributors

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-07-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 16:15 +0200, Sean Dague wrote: .. Based on these experiences, libvirt version differences seem to be as substantial as major hypervisor differences. There is a proposal here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103923/ to hold newer versions of libvirt to the same standard

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-07-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 10:04 +0100, Chris Dent wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: The data format that Ironic will send was part of the spec proposed and could have been reviewed. I think there's still time to change it tho, if you have a better format talk to Haomeng

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-07-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 16:21 -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: One of the issues that has been raised in the recent discussions with the QA team about branchless Tempest relates to some legacy defects in the OpenStack notification system. Got links to specifics? I thought the consensus was

Re: [openstack-dev] REST API access to configuration options

2014-07-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-07-15 at 08:54 +0100, Henry Nash wrote: HI As the number of configuration options increases and OpenStack installations become more complex, the chances of incorrect configuration increases. There is no better way of enabling cloud providers to be able to check the

Re: [openstack-dev] REST API access to configuration options

2014-07-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-07-15 at 13:00 +0100, Henry Nash wrote: Mark, Thanks for your comments (as well as remarks on the WIP code-review). So clearly gathering and analysing log files is an alternative approach, perhaps not as immediate as an API call. In general, I believe that the more

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-07-03 at 16:27 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey This is an attempt to summarize a really useful discussion that Victor, Flavio and I have been having today. At the bottom are some background links - basically what I have open in my browser right now thinking through all

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 12:48 +0200, Nikola Đipanov wrote: When I read all of this stuff and got my head around it (took some time :) ), a glaring drawback of such an approach, and as I mentioned on the spec proposing it [1] is that we would not really doing asyncio, we would just be pretending

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] oslo.messaging 1.4.0.0a3 released

2014-07-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of oslo.messaging 1.4.0.0a3, another pre-release in the 1.4.0 series for oslo.messaging during the Juno cycle: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.messaging

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-07-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 04:48 -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: TL;DR: do we need to stabilize notifications behind a versioned and discoverable contract? Folks, One of the issues that has been raised in the recent discussions with the QA team about branchless Tempest relates to some legacy

[openstack-dev] [all] oslo.config 1.4.0.0a2 released

2014-07-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of oslo.config 1.4.0.0a2, another pre-release in the 1.4.0 series for oslo.config during the Juno cycle: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.config/1.4.0.0a2 oslo.config provides an API which supports parsing command line arguments and .ini style

Re: [openstack-dev] Policy around Requirements Adds (was: New class of requirements for Stackforge projects)

2014-07-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 16:46 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: This thread was unfortunately hidden under a project specific tag (I have thus stripped all the tags). The crux of the argument here is the following: Is a stackforge project project able to propose additions to global-requirements.txt

Re: [openstack-dev] Policy around Requirements Adds

2014-07-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 06:26 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 07/08/2014 04:33 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 16:46 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: This thread was unfortunately hidden under a project specific tag (I have thus stripped all the tags). The crux of the argument here

[openstack-dev] [all] oslo.messaging 1.4.0.0a3 released

2014-07-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of oslo.messaging 1.4.0.0a3, another pre-release in the 1.4.0 series for oslo.messaging during the Juno cycle: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.messaging/1.4.0.0a3 oslo.messaging provides an API which supports RPC and notifications over a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Sun, 2014-07-06 at 09:28 -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: This is an attempt to summarize a really useful discussion that Victor, Flavio and I have been having today. At the bottom are some background links - basically what I have open in my browser right now thinking through all of this.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 15:53 +0100, Gordon Sim wrote: On 07/07/2014 03:12 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: The first step is to patch endpoints to add @trollius.coroutine to the methods, and add yield From(...) on asynchronous tasks. What are the 'endpoints' here? Are these internal to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 18:11 +, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 03/07/14 05:30, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey This is an attempt to summarize a really useful discussion that Victor, Flavio and I have been having today. At the bottom are some background links - basically what I have open in my

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][all] autosync incubator to projects

2014-07-04 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 15:31 +0200, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Hi all, at the moment we have several bot jobs that sync contents to affected projects: - translations are copied from transifex; - requirements are copied from global requirements repo. We have another source of common code -

[openstack-dev] [oslo] Asyncio and oslo.messaging

2014-07-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey This is an attempt to summarize a really useful discussion that Victor, Flavio and I have been having today. At the bottom are some background links - basically what I have open in my browser right now thinking through all of this. We're attempting to take baby-steps towards moving

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][oslo][neutron] Need help getting oslo.messaging 1.4.0.0a2 in global requirements

2014-06-30 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 16:52 +, Paul Michali (pcm) wrote: I have out for review 103536 to add this version to global requirements, so that Neutron has an oslo fix (review 102909) for encoding failure, which affects some gate runs. This review for global requirements is failing requirements

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] OSLO messaging update and icehouse config files

2014-06-30 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 15:35 -0600, John Griffith wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-06-30 at 12:04 -0600, John Griffith wrote: Hey Everyone, So I sent a note out yesterday asking

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] oslo.messaging 1.4.0.0a1 released

2014-06-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-06-27 at 13:28 +, Paul Michali (pcm) wrote: Mark, When would we be able to get a release of Oslo with 102909 fix in? It’s preventing Jenkins passing for some commits in Neutron. I've just pushed 1.4.0.0a2 with the following changes: 244a902 Fix the notifier example

Re: [openstack-dev] 'retry' option

2014-06-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-06-27 at 17:02 +0100, Gordon Sim wrote: A question about the new 'retry' option. The doc says: By default, cast() and call() will block until the message is successfully sent. What does 'successfully sent' mean here? Unclear, ambiguous, probably driver dependent

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] community consensus and removing rules

2014-06-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 19:55 -0700, Joe Gordon wrote: * Add a new directory, contrib, for local rules that multiple projects use but are not generally considered acceptable to be enabled by default. This way we can reduce the amount of cut and pasted code (thank

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-06-24 at 09:51 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2014-06-24 06:48:06 -0700: On 06/22/2014 02:49 PM, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 22 June 2014 14:41, Amrith Kumar amr...@tesora.com wrote: In addition to making changes to the hacking rules, why don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-06-24 at 13:56 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2014-06-24 12:49:52 -0700: On Tue, 2014-06-24 at 09:51 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2014-06-24 06:48:06 -0700: On 06/22/2014 02:49 PM, Duncan Thomas

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] rules for removal

2014-06-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Sat, 2014-06-21 at 07:36 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-06-21 05:08:01 -0700: Pedantic reviewers that are reviewing for this kind of thing only should be scorned. I realistically like the idea markmc came up with -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] PTL and core team members

2014-06-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-06-19 at 20:36 -0700, Dustin Lundquist wrote: Dolph, I appreciate the suggestion. In the mean time how does the review process work without core developers to approve gerrit submissions? If you're just getting started, have a small number (possibly just 1 to begin with) of

[openstack-dev] [Oslo] Translating log and exception messages in Oslo libraries

2014-06-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi I'm not sure we've ever discussed this before, but I had previously figured that we shouldn't translate log and exception messages in oslo.messaging. My thinking is: - it seems like an odd thing for a library to do, I don't know of examples of other libraries doing this .. but I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Armando, On Tue, 2014-06-17 at 14:51 +0200, Armando M. wrote: I wonder what the turnaround of trivial patches actually is, I bet you it's very very small, and as Daniel said, the human burden is rather minimal (I would be more concerned about slowing them down in the gate, but I digress).

[openstack-dev] [oslo] Paris mid-cycle sprint

2014-06-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey I had been thinking of going to the Paris sprint: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/ParisJuno2014 But it only just occurred to me that we could have enough Oslo contributors in Europe to make it worthwhile for us to use the opportunity to get some Oslo stuff done together. For

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-06-19 at 09:34 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: On 19/06/14 08:32, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hi Armando, On Tue, 2014-06-17 at 14:51 +0200, Armando M. wrote: I wonder what the turnaround of trivial patches actually is, I bet you it's very very small, and as Daniel said, the human

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [zmq] [oslo.messaging] Running devstack with zeromq

2014-06-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-06-19 at 14:29 +0200, Mehdi Abaakouk wrote: Hi, Le 2014-06-19 00:30, Ben Nemec a écrit : On 06/18/2014 05:45 AM, Elena Ezhova wrote: So I wonder whether it is something the community is interested in and, if yes, are there any recommendations concerning possible

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey On Tue, 2014-06-17 at 17:43 +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: On Tue, Jun 17 2014, Arnaud Legendre wrote: @ZhiYan: I don't like the idea of removing the sample configuration file(s) from the git repository. Many people do not want to have to checkout the entire codebase and tox every time

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-06-18 at 09:29 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey On Tue, 2014-06-17 at 17:43 +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: On Tue, Jun 17 2014, Arnaud Legendre wrote: @Julien: I would be interested to understand

Re: [openstack-dev] An alternative approach to enforcing expected election behaviour

2014-06-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 10:56 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:04:51AM -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: How about we rely instead on the values and attributes that actually make our community strong? Specifically: maturity, honesty, and a self-correcting nature.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][messaging] messaging vs. messagingv2

2014-06-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Ihar, On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 15:28 +0200, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Hi all, I'm currently pushing Neutron to oslo.messaging, and while at it, a question popped up. So in oslo-rpc, we have the following notification drivers available: neutron.openstack.common.notifier.log_notifier

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate proposal - drop Postgresql configurations in the gate

2014-06-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 07:31 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/13/2014 02:36 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 22:10 -0400, Dan Prince wrote: On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 08:06 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: We're definitely deep into capacity issues, so it's going to be time to start

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] versioning and releases

2014-06-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 12:09 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 12:24 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: [...] Background: We have two types of oslo libraries. Libraries like

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][messaging] Further improvements and refactoring

2014-06-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 15:47 +0400, Dina Belova wrote: Dims, No problem with creating the specs, we just want to understand if the community is OK with our suggestions in general :) If so, I'll create the appropriate specs and we'll discuss them :) Personally, I find it difficult to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder][ceilometer][glance][all] Loading clients from a CONF object

2014-06-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 16:57 +1200, Steve Baker wrote: On 11/06/14 15:07, Jamie Lennox wrote: Among the problems cause by the inconsistencies in the clients is that all the options that are required to create a client need to go into the config file of the service. This is a pain to

Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified

2014-06-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 20:14 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Based on the discussion I'd like to propose these options: 1. Cinder-certified driver - This is an attempt to move the certification to the project level. 2.

Re: [openstack-dev] [marconi] Reconsidering the unified API model

2014-06-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 19:31 +, Kurt Griffiths wrote: Lately we have been talking about writing drivers for traditional message brokers that will not be able to support the message feeds part of the API. I’ve started to think that having a huge part of the API that may or may not “work”,

Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified

2014-06-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 14:06 +0100, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 10 June 2014 09:33, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Avoiding dragging the project into those sort of politics is something I'm really keen on, and why I think the word certification is best avoided so we can focus on what

Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified

2014-06-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 16:09 +0100, Duncan Thomas wrote: On 10 June 2014 15:07, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Exposing which configurations are actively tested is a perfectly sane thing to do. I don't see why you think calling this certification is necessary to achieve your

Re: [openstack-dev] [marconi] Reconsidering the unified API model

2014-06-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 17:33 +, Janczuk, Tomasz wrote: From my perspective the key promise of Marconi is to provide a *multi-tenant*, *HTTP* based queuing system. Think an OpenStack equivalent of SQS or Azure Storage Queues. As far as I know there are no off-the-shelve message brokers out

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] use of the word certified

2014-06-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi John, On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:59 -0600, John Griffith wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:55 PM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:29 -0400, Anita Kuno

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][TC] Glance Functional API and Cross-project API Consistency

2014-06-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 18:22 +, Hemanth Makkapati wrote: Hello All, I'm writing to notify you of the approach the Glance community has decided to take for doing functional API. Also, I'm writing to solicit your feedback on this approach in the light of cross-project API consistency. At

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] [TC] Program Mission Statement and the Catalog

2014-06-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 18:03 -0700, Mark Washenberger wrote: Hi folks, I'd like to propose the Images program to adopt a mission statement [1] and then change it to reflect our new aspirations of acting as a Catalog that works with artifacts beyond just disk images [2]. Since the

[openstack-dev] [oslo] Mehdi Abaakouk added to oslo.messaging-core

2014-06-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Mehdi has been making great contributions and reviews on oslo.messaging for months now, so I've added him to oslo.messaging-core. Thank you for all your hard work Mehdi! Mark. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified

2014-06-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:29 -0400, Anita Kuno wrote: The issue I have with the word certify is that it requires someone or a group of someones to attest to something. The thing attested to is only as credible as the someone or the group of someones doing the attesting. We have no process, nor

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][infra] Plan for the splitting of Horizon into two repositories

2014-06-05 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 15:29 -0400, Anita Kuno wrote: On 05/28/2014 08:54 AM, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: Hello, we plan to finally do the split in this cycle, and I started some preparations for that. I also started to prepare a detailed plan for the whole operation, as it seems to be a

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][infra] Plan for the splitting of Horizon into two repositories

2014-06-05 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-06-05 at 11:19 +0200, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: On 06/05/2014 10:59 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: If I'm late to the party and the only one that this is news to, that is fine. Sixteen additional repos seems like a lot of additional reviews will be needed. One slightly odd

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] status of quota class

2014-05-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 10:27 -0600, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 13:47 +0100, Mehdi Abaakouk wrote: But 'quota_class' is never set when a nova RequestContext is created. When I created quota classes, I envisioned the authentication component of the WSGI stack setting the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] custom gerrit dashboard - per project review inbox zero

2014-05-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 08:20 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: Based on some of my blog posts on gerrit queries, I've built and gotten integrated a custom inbox zero dashboard which is per project in gerrit. ex:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Timestamp formats in the REST API

2014-04-30 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 10:39 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey In this patch: https://review.openstack.org/83681 by Ghanshyam Mann, we encountered an unusual situation where a timestamp in the returned XML

[openstack-dev] [nova] Timestamp formats in the REST API

2014-04-29 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey In this patch: https://review.openstack.org/83681 by Ghanshyam Mann, we encountered an unusual situation where a timestamp in the returned XML looked like this: 2014-04-08 09:00:14.399708+00:00 What appeared to be unusual was that the timestamp had both sub-second time resolution and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Timestamp formats in the REST API

2014-04-29 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 14:48 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: My conclusions from all that: 1) This sucks 2) At the very least, we should be clear in our API samples tests which of the three formats we expect - we should only change the format used in a given part of the API

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] [Ironic] Can we change rpc_thread_pool_size default value?

2014-04-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 07:25 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 15:54 -0700, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi! When a project is using oslo.messaging, how can we change our default rpc_thread_pool_size? --- Background Ironic has hit a bug

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] [Ironic] Can we change rpc_thread_pool_size default value?

2014-04-23 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 15:54 -0700, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi! When a project is using oslo.messaging, how can we change our default rpc_thread_pool_size? --- Background Ironic has hit a bug where a flood of API requests can deplete the RPC worker pool on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] nominating Victor Stinner for the Oslo core reviewers team

2014-04-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-04-21 at 12:39 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: I propose that we add Victor Stinner (haypo on freenode) to the Oslo core reviewers team. Victor is a Python core contributor, and works on the development team at eNovance. He created trollius, a port of Python 3's tulip/asyncio

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] starting regular meetings

2014-04-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 14:53 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Balancing Europe and Pacific TZs is going to be a challenge. I can't go at 1800 or 1900, myself, and those are pushing a little late in Europe anyway. How about 1600?

Re: [openstack-dev] [OSSG][OSSN] OpenSSL Heartbleed vulnerability can lead to OpenStack compromise

2014-04-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-04-10 at 00:23 -0700, Nathan Kinder wrote: OpenSSL Heartbleed vulnerability can lead to OpenStack compromise --- ### Summary ### A vulnerability in OpenSSL can lead to leaking of confidential data protected by SSL/TLS in an OpenStack deployment. ### Affected Services /

Re: [openstack-dev] [olso][neutron] proxying oslo.messaging from management network into tenant network/VMs

2014-04-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 17:33 +0900, Isaku Yamahata wrote: Hello developers. As discussed many times so far[1], there are many projects that needs to propagate RPC messages into VMs running on OpenStack. Neutron in my case. My idea is to relay RPC messages from management network into

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] use of the oslo namespace package

2014-04-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 15:24 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: We can avoid adding to the problem by putting each new library in its own package. We still want the Oslo name attached for libraries that are really only meant to be used by OpenStack projects, and so we need a naming convention. I'm not

[openstack-dev] oslo.messaging 1.3.0 released

2014-04-01 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi oslo.messaging 1.3.0 is now available on pypi and should be available in our mirror shortly. Full release notes are available here: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.messaging/ The master branch will soon be open for Juno targeted development and we'll publish 1.4.0aN beta releases

Re: [openstack-dev] [depfreeze] [horizon] Exception request: python-keystoneclient=0.7.0

2014-03-27 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 13:53 +, Julie Pichon wrote: Hi, I would like to request a depfreeze exception to bump up the keystone client requirement [1], in order to reenable the ability for users to update their own password with Keystone v3 in Horizon in time for Icehouse [2]. This

Re: [openstack-dev] Multiple patches in one review

2014-03-25 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 10:49 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: Gerrit support for a patch series could certainly be better. There has long been talking about gerrit getting topic review functionality, whereby you could e.g. approve a whole series of patches from a topic view. See:

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack vs. SQLA 0.9

2014-03-25 Thread Mark McLoughlin
FYI, allowing 0.9 recently merged into openstack/requirements: https://review.openstack.org/79817 This is a good example of how we should be linking gerrit and mailing list discussions together more. I don't think the gerrit review was linked in this thread nor was the mailing list discussion

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 01:28 +, Joshua Harlow wrote: Proxying from yahoo's open source director (since he wasn't initially subscribed to this list, afaik he now is) on his behalf. From Gil Yehuda (Yahoo’s Open Source director). I would urge you to avoid creating a dependency between

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