Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-25 Thread Ben Nemec
On 11/18/2014 05:11 PM, Sachi King wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 02:06:02 PM Doug Hellmann wrote:
>> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list 
>> of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad 
>> [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
>> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
>> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
>> modules differently than what I have written below.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> Deleted or deprecated modules:
>>
>> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
>> longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch 
>> of the incubator, and removing it from master 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/130092)
>>
>> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
>>
>> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
>> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
>> replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.
>>
>> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use 
>> of Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)
>>
>> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
>> front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/134021)
>>
>> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
>> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
>>
>> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
>> modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
>>
>>
>>
>> Graduating:
>>
>> oslo.context:
>> - Dims is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
>> - includes:
>>  context.py
>>
>> oslo.service:
> 
> During the "Oslo graduation schedule" meet up someone was mentioning they'd 
> be willing to help out as a contact for questions during this process.
> Can anyone put me in contact with that person or remember who he was?

I think that was me, but I've been kind of out of touch since the
summit.  Feel free to contact me with any questions though.  bnemec on
#openstack-oslo.

> 
>> - Sachi is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
>> - includes:
>>  eventlet_backdoor.py
>>  loopingcall.py
>>  periodic_task.py
>>  request_utils.py
>>  service.py
>>  sslutils.py
>>  systemd.py
>>  threadgroup.py
>>
>> oslo.utils:
>> - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
>> modules.
>> - includes:
>>  fileutils.py
>>  versionutils.py
>>
>>
>>
>> Remaining untouched:
>>
>> scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
>> whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
>> incubator for at least another cycle.
>>
>> report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing 
>> this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Other work:
>>
>> We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
>> during Juno.
>>
>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-19 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Sachi King  wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 02:06:02 PM Doug Hellmann wrote:
>> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list 
>> of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad 
>> [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
>> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
>> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
>> modules differently than what I have written below.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Deleted or deprecated modules:
>> 
>> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
>> longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch 
>> of the incubator, and removing it from master 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/130092)
>> 
>> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
>> 
>> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
>> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
>> replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.
>> 
>> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use 
>> of Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)
>> 
>> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
>> front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/134021)
>> 
>> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
>> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
>> 
>> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
>> modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Graduating:
>> 
>> oslo.context:
>> - Dims is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
>> - includes:
>>  context.py
>> 
>> oslo.service:
> 
> During the "Oslo graduation schedule" meet up someone was mentioning they'd 
> be willing to help out as a contact for questions during this process.
> Can anyone put me in contact with that person or remember who he was?

I don’t know if it was me, but I’ll volunteer now. :-)

dhellmann on freenode, or this email address, are the best way to reach me. I’m 
in the US Eastern time zone.

Doug

> 
>> - Sachi is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
>> - includes:
>>  eventlet_backdoor.py
>>  loopingcall.py
>>  periodic_task.py
>>  request_utils.py
>>  service.py
>>  sslutils.py
>>  systemd.py
>>  threadgroup.py
>> 
>> oslo.utils:
>> - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
>> modules.
>> - includes:
>>  fileutils.py
>>  versionutils.py
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Remaining untouched:
>> 
>> scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
>> whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
>> incubator for at least another cycle.
>> 
>> report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing 
>> this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Other work:
>> 
>> We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
>> during Juno.
>> 
>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-18 Thread Sachi King
On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 02:06:02 PM Doug Hellmann wrote:
> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of 
> modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad [1], 
> but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
> modules differently than what I have written below.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> Deleted or deprecated modules:
> 
> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
> longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch 
> of the incubator, and removing it from master 
> (https://review.openstack.org/130092)
> 
> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
> 
> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
> replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.
> 
> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use 
> of Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)
> 
> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
> front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
> (https://review.openstack.org/134021)
> 
> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
> 
> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
> modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
> 
> 
> 
> Graduating:
> 
> oslo.context:
> - Dims is driving this
> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
> - includes:
>   context.py
> 
> oslo.service:

During the "Oslo graduation schedule" meet up someone was mentioning they'd be 
willing to help out as a contact for questions during this process.
Can anyone put me in contact with that person or remember who he was?

> - Sachi is driving this
> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
> - includes:
>   eventlet_backdoor.py
>   loopingcall.py
>   periodic_task.py
>   request_utils.py
>   service.py
>   sslutils.py
>   systemd.py
>   threadgroup.py
> 
> oslo.utils:
> - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
> modules.
> - includes:
>   fileutils.py
>   versionutils.py
> 
> 
> 
> Remaining untouched:
> 
> scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
> whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
> incubator for at least another cycle.
> 
> report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing 
> this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.
> 
> 
> 
> Other work:
> 
> We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
> during Juno.
> 
> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Rodrigo Duarte
Thanks Steve.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Steve Martinelli 
wrote:

> looking at http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ and
> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/ should have all the
> info you need. The specs are hosted at:
> https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs there's a template spec too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> _
> Steve Martinelli
> OpenStack Development - Keystone Core Member
> Phone: (905) 413-2851
> E-Mail: steve...@ca.ibm.com
>
>
>
> From:Rodrigo Duarte 
> To:"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
> 
> Date:    11/13/2014 10:13 AM
> Subject:Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans
> --
>
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> I'm going to write the spec regarding the policy graduation, it will be
> placed in the keystone-specs repository. I was wondering if someone have
> examples of such specs so we can cover all necessary points.
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Doug Hellmann <*d...@doughellmann.com*
> > wrote:
>
> On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Dmitry Tantsur <*dtant...@redhat.com*
> > wrote:
>
> > On 11/13/2014 01:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> >>
> >> On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Dmitry Tantsur <*dtant...@redhat.com*
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> >>>> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the
> list of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the
> etherpad [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle
> I am also posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for
> wider distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of
> these modules differently than what I have written below.
> >>>>
> >>>> Doug
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Deleted or deprecated modules:
> >>>>
> >>>> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it
> is no longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno
> branch of the incubator, and removing it from master (
> *https://review.openstack.org/130092*
> <https://review.openstack.org/130092>)
> >>>>
> >>>> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. (
> *https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/*
> <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/>)
> >>>>
> >>>> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created (
> *https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library*
> <https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library>) and
> should replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but
> deprecate it.
> >>>>
> >>>> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage
> the use of Barbican or cryptography.py (
> *https://review.openstack.org/134020*
> <https://review.openstack.org/134020>)
> >>>>
> >>>> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as
> a front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated (
> *https://review.openstack.org/134021*
> <https://review.openstack.org/134021>)
> >>>>
> >>>> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was
> safe to deprecate this code as well (*https://review.openstack.org/134024*
> <https://review.openstack.org/134024>).
> >>>>
> >>>> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some
> XML modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. (
> *https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/*
> <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/>)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Graduating:
> >>>>
> >>>> oslo.context:
> >>>> - Dims is driving this
> >>>> -
> *https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context*
> <https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context>
> >>>> - includes:
> >>>>context.py
> >>>>
> >>>> oslo.service:
> >>>> - Sachi is driving this
> >>>> -
> *https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service*
> <https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service>
> >>>> - includes:
> >>>>eventlet_

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Steve Martinelli
looking at http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ and 
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/ should have all the 
info you need. The specs are hosted at: 
https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs there's a template spec too.

Thanks,

_
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OpenStack Development - Keystone Core Member
Phone: (905) 413-2851
E-Mail: steve...@ca.ibm.com



From:   Rodrigo Duarte 
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 

Date:   11/13/2014 10:13 AM
Subject:    Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans



Hi Doug,

I'm going to write the spec regarding the policy graduation, it will be 
placed in the keystone-specs repository. I was wondering if someone have 
examples of such specs so we can cover all necessary points.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Doug Hellmann  
wrote:

On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Dmitry Tantsur  wrote:

> On 11/13/2014 01:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Dmitry Tantsur  
wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>>>> During our ?Graduation Schedule? summit session we worked through the 
list of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the 
etherpad [1], but as part of the "Write it Down? theme for Oslo this cycle 
I am also posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for 
wider distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of 
these modules differently than what I have written below.
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Deleted or deprecated modules:
>>>>
>>>> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it 
is no longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the 
stable/juno branch of the incubator, and removing it from master (
https://review.openstack.org/130092)
>>>>
>>>> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. (
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
>>>>
>>>> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created (
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and 
should replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but 
deprecate it.
>>>>
>>>> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage 
the use of Barbican or cryptography.py (
https://review.openstack.org/134020)
>>>>
>>>> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as 
a front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated (
https://review.openstack.org/134021)
>>>>
>>>> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was 
safe to deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
>>>>
>>>> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some 
XML modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. (
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Graduating:
>>>>
>>>> oslo.context:
>>>> - Dims is driving this
>>>> - 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context

>>>> - includes:
>>>>context.py
>>>>
>>>> oslo.service:
>>>> - Sachi is driving this
>>>> - 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service

>>>> - includes:
>>>>eventlet_backdoor.py
>>>>loopingcall.py
>>>>periodic_task.py
>>> By te way, right now I'm looking into updating this code to be able to 
run tasks on a thread pool, not only in one thread (quite a problem for 
Ironic). Does it somehow interfere with the graduation? Any deadlines or 
something?
>>
>> Feature development on code declared ready for graduation is basically 
frozen until the new library is created. You should plan on doing that 
work in the new oslo.service repository, which should be showing up soon. 
And the you describe feature sounds like something for which we would want 
a spec written, so please consider filing one when you have some of the 
details worked out.
> Sure, right now I'm experimenting in Ironic tree to figure out how it 
really works. There's a single oslo-specs repo for the whole oslo, right?

Yes, that?s right openstack/oslo-specs. Having a branch somewhere as a 
reference would be great for the spec reviewers, so that seems like a good 
way to start.

Doug

>
>>
>>>
>>>>request_utils.py
>>>>service.py
>>>>sslutils.py
>>>>systemd.py
>>>>threadgrou

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Morgan Fainberg


> On Nov 12, 2014, at 14:22, Doug Hellmann  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Adam Young  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/12/2014 02:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>>> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list 
>>> of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad 
>>> [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
>>> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
>>> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
>>> modules differently than what I have written below.
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Deleted or deprecated modules:
>>> 
>>> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
>>> longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno 
>>> branch of the incubator, and removing it from master 
>>> (https://review.openstack.org/130092)
>>> 
>>> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
>>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
>>> 
>>> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
>>> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and 
>>> should replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but 
>>> deprecate it.
>>> 
>>> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the 
>>> use of Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)
>>> 
>>> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
>>> front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
>>> (https://review.openstack.org/134021)
>>> 
>>> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
>>> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
>>> 
>>> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
>>> modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
>>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Graduating:
>>> 
>>> oslo.context:
>>> - Dims is driving this
>>> - 
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
>>> - includes:
>>>context.py
>>> 
>>> oslo.service:
>>> - Sachi is driving this
>>> - 
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
>>> - includes:
>>>eventlet_backdoor.py
>>>loopingcall.py
>>>periodic_task.py
>>>request_utils.py
>>>service.py
>>>sslutils.py
>>>systemd.py
>>>threadgroup.py
>>> 
>>> oslo.utils:
>>> - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
>>> modules.
>>> - includes:
>>>fileutils.py
>>>versionutils.py
>> You missed oslo.policy.  Graduating, and moving under the AAA program.
> 
> I sure did. I thought we’d held a separate session on policy and I was going 
> to write it up separately, but now I’m not finding a link to a separate 
> etherpad. I must have been mixing that discussion up with one of the other 
> sessions.
> 
> The Keystone team did agree to adopt the policy module and create a library 
> from it. I have Morgan and Adam down as volunteering to drive that process. 
> Since we’re changing owners, I’m not sure where we want to put the 
> spec/blueprint to track the work. Maybe under the keystone program, since 
> you’re doing the work?
> 
Yeah putting it in keystone specs makes the most sense I think of the locations 
we have today. 

--Morgan 

>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Remaining untouched:
>>> 
>>> scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
>>> whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
>>> incubator for at least another cycle.
>>> 
>>> report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing 
>>> this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing 
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Other work:
>>> 
>>> We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
>>> during Juno.
>>> 
>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Rodrigo Duarte
Hi Doug,

I'm going to write the spec regarding the policy graduation, it will be
placed in the keystone-specs repository. I was wondering if someone have
examples of such specs so we can cover all necessary points.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Doug Hellmann 
wrote:

>
> On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Dmitry Tantsur  wrote:
>
> > On 11/13/2014 01:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> >>
> >> On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Dmitry Tantsur 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>  During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the
> list of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the
> etherpad [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle
> I am also posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for
> wider distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of
> these modules differently than what I have written below.
> 
>  Doug
> 
> 
> 
>  Deleted or deprecated modules:
> 
>  funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it
> is no longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno
> branch of the incubator, and removing it from master (
> https://review.openstack.org/130092)
> 
>  hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. (
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
> 
>  quota.py - A new quota management system is being created (
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and
> should replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but
> deprecate it.
> 
>  crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage
> the use of Barbican or cryptography.py (
> https://review.openstack.org/134020)
> 
>  cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as
> a front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated (
> https://review.openstack.org/134021)
> 
>  apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was
> safe to deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
> 
>  xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some
> XML modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. (
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
> 
> 
> 
>  Graduating:
> 
>  oslo.context:
>  - Dims is driving this
>  -
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
>  - includes:
> context.py
> 
>  oslo.service:
>  - Sachi is driving this
>  -
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
>  - includes:
> eventlet_backdoor.py
> loopingcall.py
> periodic_task.py
> >>> By te way, right now I'm looking into updating this code to be able to
> run tasks on a thread pool, not only in one thread (quite a problem for
> Ironic). Does it somehow interfere with the graduation? Any deadlines or
> something?
> >>
> >> Feature development on code declared ready for graduation is basically
> frozen until the new library is created. You should plan on doing that work
> in the new oslo.service repository, which should be showing up soon. And
> the you describe feature sounds like something for which we would want a
> spec written, so please consider filing one when you have some of the
> details worked out.
> > Sure, right now I'm experimenting in Ironic tree to figure out how it
> really works. There's a single oslo-specs repo for the whole oslo, right?
>
> Yes, that’s right openstack/oslo-specs. Having a branch somewhere as a
> reference would be great for the spec reviewers, so that seems like a good
> way to start.
>
> Doug
>
> >
> >>
> >>>
> request_utils.py
> service.py
> sslutils.py
> systemd.py
> threadgroup.py
> 
>  oslo.utils:
>  - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import
> these modules.
>  - includes:
> fileutils.py
> versionutils.py
> 
> 
> 
>  Remaining untouched:
> 
>  scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t
> clear whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in
> the incubator for at least another cycle.
> 
>  report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library
> containing this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly
> about doing that.
> 
> 
> 
>  Other work:
> 
>  We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we
> started during Juno.
> 
>  [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Dmitry Tantsur  wrote:

> On 11/13/2014 01:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Dmitry Tantsur  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list 
 of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad 
 [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am 
 also posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
 distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
 modules differently than what I have written below.
 
 Doug
 
 
 
 Deleted or deprecated modules:
 
 funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
 longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno 
 branch of the incubator, and removing it from master 
 (https://review.openstack.org/130092)
 
 hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
 
 quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
 (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and 
 should replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but 
 deprecate it.
 
 crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the 
 use of Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)
 
 cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
 front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
 (https://review.openstack.org/134021)
 
 apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
 deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
 
 xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
 modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
 
 
 
 Graduating:
 
 oslo.context:
 - Dims is driving this
 - 
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
 - includes:
context.py
 
 oslo.service:
 - Sachi is driving this
 - 
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
 - includes:
eventlet_backdoor.py
loopingcall.py
periodic_task.py
>>> By te way, right now I'm looking into updating this code to be able to run 
>>> tasks on a thread pool, not only in one thread (quite a problem for 
>>> Ironic). Does it somehow interfere with the graduation? Any deadlines or 
>>> something?
>> 
>> Feature development on code declared ready for graduation is basically 
>> frozen until the new library is created. You should plan on doing that work 
>> in the new oslo.service repository, which should be showing up soon. And the 
>> you describe feature sounds like something for which we would want a spec 
>> written, so please consider filing one when you have some of the details 
>> worked out.
> Sure, right now I'm experimenting in Ironic tree to figure out how it really 
> works. There's a single oslo-specs repo for the whole oslo, right?

Yes, that’s right openstack/oslo-specs. Having a branch somewhere as a 
reference would be great for the spec reviewers, so that seems like a good way 
to start.

Doug

> 
>> 
>>> 
request_utils.py
service.py
sslutils.py
systemd.py
threadgroup.py
 
 oslo.utils:
 - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
 modules.
 - includes:
fileutils.py
versionutils.py
 
 
 
 Remaining untouched:
 
 scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
 whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
 incubator for at least another cycle.
 
 report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing 
 this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing 
 that.
 
 
 
 Other work:
 
 We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
 during Juno.
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Dmitry Tantsur

On 11/13/2014 01:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:


On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Dmitry Tantsur  wrote:


On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:

During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of 
modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad [1], but as 
part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also posting a 
summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider distribution. Let me know 
if you remembered the outcome for any of these modules differently than what I have 
written below.

Doug



Deleted or deprecated modules:

funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch of 
the incubator, and removing it from master (https://review.openstack.org/130092)

hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)

quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
(https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.

crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use of 
Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)

cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
(https://review.openstack.org/134021)

apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).

xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)



Graduating:

oslo.context:
- Dims is driving this
- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
- includes:
context.py

oslo.service:
- Sachi is driving this
- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
- includes:
eventlet_backdoor.py
loopingcall.py
periodic_task.py

By te way, right now I'm looking into updating this code to be able to run 
tasks on a thread pool, not only in one thread (quite a problem for Ironic). 
Does it somehow interfere with the graduation? Any deadlines or something?


Feature development on code declared ready for graduation is basically frozen 
until the new library is created. You should plan on doing that work in the new 
oslo.service repository, which should be showing up soon. And the you describe 
feature sounds like something for which we would want a spec written, so please 
consider filing one when you have some of the details worked out.
Sure, right now I'm experimenting in Ironic tree to figure out how it 
really works. There's a single oslo-specs repo for the whole oslo, right?







request_utils.py
service.py
sslutils.py
systemd.py
threadgroup.py

oslo.utils:
- We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
modules.
- includes:
fileutils.py
versionutils.py



Remaining untouched:

scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
incubator for at least another cycle.

report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing this 
code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.



Other work:

We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
during Juno.

[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Dmitry Tantsur  wrote:

> On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list 
>> of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad 
>> [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
>> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
>> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
>> modules differently than what I have written below.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Deleted or deprecated modules:
>> 
>> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
>> longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch 
>> of the incubator, and removing it from master 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/130092)
>> 
>> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
>> 
>> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
>> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
>> replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.
>> 
>> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use 
>> of Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)
>> 
>> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
>> front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/134021)
>> 
>> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
>> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
>> 
>> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
>> modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Graduating:
>> 
>> oslo.context:
>> - Dims is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
>> - includes:
>>  context.py
>> 
>> oslo.service:
>> - Sachi is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
>> - includes:
>>  eventlet_backdoor.py
>>  loopingcall.py
>>  periodic_task.py
> By te way, right now I'm looking into updating this code to be able to run 
> tasks on a thread pool, not only in one thread (quite a problem for Ironic). 
> Does it somehow interfere with the graduation? Any deadlines or something?

Feature development on code declared ready for graduation is basically frozen 
until the new library is created. You should plan on doing that work in the new 
oslo.service repository, which should be showing up soon. And the you describe 
feature sounds like something for which we would want a spec written, so please 
consider filing one when you have some of the details worked out.

> 
>>  request_utils.py
>>  service.py
>>  sslutils.py
>>  systemd.py
>>  threadgroup.py
>> 
>> oslo.utils:
>> - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
>> modules.
>> - includes:
>>  fileutils.py
>>  versionutils.py
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Remaining untouched:
>> 
>> scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
>> whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
>> incubator for at least another cycle.
>> 
>> report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing 
>> this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Other work:
>> 
>> We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
>> during Juno.
>> 
>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Dmitry Tantsur

On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:

During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of 
modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad [1], but as 
part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also posting a 
summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider distribution. Let me know 
if you remembered the outcome for any of these modules differently than what I have 
written below.

Doug



Deleted or deprecated modules:

funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch of 
the incubator, and removing it from master (https://review.openstack.org/130092)

hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)

quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
(https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.

crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use of 
Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)

cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
(https://review.openstack.org/134021)

apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).

xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)



Graduating:

oslo.context:
- Dims is driving this
- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
- includes:
context.py

oslo.service:
- Sachi is driving this
- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
- includes:
eventlet_backdoor.py
loopingcall.py
periodic_task.py
By te way, right now I'm looking into updating this code to be able to 
run tasks on a thread pool, not only in one thread (quite a problem for 
Ironic). Does it somehow interfere with the graduation? Any deadlines or 
something?



request_utils.py
service.py
sslutils.py
systemd.py
threadgroup.py

oslo.utils:
- We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
modules.
- includes:
fileutils.py
versionutils.py



Remaining untouched:

scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
incubator for at least another cycle.

report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing this 
code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.



Other work:

We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
during Juno.

[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-12 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Nov 12, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Adam Young  wrote:

> On 11/12/2014 02:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list 
>> of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad 
>> [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
>> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
>> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
>> modules differently than what I have written below.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Deleted or deprecated modules:
>> 
>> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
>> longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch 
>> of the incubator, and removing it from master 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/130092)
>> 
>> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
>> 
>> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
>> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
>> replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.
>> 
>> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use 
>> of Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)
>> 
>> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
>> front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/134021)
>> 
>> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
>> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
>> 
>> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
>> modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Graduating:
>> 
>> oslo.context:
>> - Dims is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
>> - includes:
>>  context.py
>> 
>> oslo.service:
>> - Sachi is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
>> - includes:
>>  eventlet_backdoor.py
>>  loopingcall.py
>>  periodic_task.py
>>  request_utils.py
>>  service.py
>>  sslutils.py
>>  systemd.py
>>  threadgroup.py
>> 
>> oslo.utils:
>> - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
>> modules.
>> - includes:
>>  fileutils.py
>>  versionutils.py
> You missed oslo.policy.  Graduating, and moving under the AAA program.

I sure did. I thought we’d held a separate session on policy and I was going to 
write it up separately, but now I’m not finding a link to a separate etherpad. 
I must have been mixing that discussion up with one of the other sessions.

The Keystone team did agree to adopt the policy module and create a library 
from it. I have Morgan and Adam down as volunteering to drive that process. 
Since we’re changing owners, I’m not sure where we want to put the 
spec/blueprint to track the work. Maybe under the keystone program, since 
you’re doing the work?

> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Remaining untouched:
>> 
>> scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
>> whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
>> incubator for at least another cycle.
>> 
>> report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing 
>> this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Other work:
>> 
>> We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
>> during Juno.
>> 
>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-12 Thread Adam Young

On 11/12/2014 02:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:

During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of 
modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad [1], but as 
part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also posting a 
summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider distribution. Let me know 
if you remembered the outcome for any of these modules differently than what I have 
written below.

Doug



Deleted or deprecated modules:

funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch of 
the incubator, and removing it from master (https://review.openstack.org/130092)

hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)

quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
(https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.

crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use of 
Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)

cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
(https://review.openstack.org/134021)

apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).

xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)



Graduating:

oslo.context:
- Dims is driving this
- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
- includes:
context.py

oslo.service:
- Sachi is driving this
- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
- includes:
eventlet_backdoor.py
loopingcall.py
periodic_task.py
request_utils.py
service.py
sslutils.py
systemd.py
threadgroup.py

oslo.utils:
- We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
modules.
- includes:
fileutils.py
versionutils.py

You missed oslo.policy.  Graduating, and moving under the AAA program.





Remaining untouched:

scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
incubator for at least another cycle.

report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing this 
code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.



Other work:

We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
during Juno.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-12 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Nov 12, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Doug Hellmann  wrote:

> 
> On Nov 12, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Doug Hellmann  wrote:
> 
>> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list 
>> of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad 
>> [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
>> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
>> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
>> modules differently than what I have written below.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Deleted or deprecated modules:
>> 
>> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
>> longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch 
>> of the incubator, and removing it from master 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/130092)
>> 
>> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
>> 
>> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
>> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
>> replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.
>> 
>> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use 
>> of Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)
>> 
>> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
>> front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/134021)
>> 
>> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
>> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
> 
> I left out the cliutils module, which we are treating the same as apiclient. 
> The python-openstackclient project replaces cliutils, so we are deprecating 
> that as well.

Hmm, that came out garbled. Let me try again:

cliutils is deprecated in favor of python-openstackclient, and everyone is 
encouraged to contribute to python-openstackclient instead.

> 
>> 
>> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
>> modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
>> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Graduating:
>> 
>> oslo.context:
>> - Dims is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
>> - includes:
>>  context.py
>> 
>> oslo.service:
>> - Sachi is driving this
>> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
>> - includes:
>>  eventlet_backdoor.py
>>  loopingcall.py
>>  periodic_task.py
>>  request_utils.py
>>  service.py
>>  sslutils.py
>>  systemd.py
>>  threadgroup.py
>> 
>> oslo.utils:
>> - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
>> modules.
>> - includes:
>>  fileutils.py
>>  versionutils.py
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Remaining untouched:
>> 
>> scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
>> whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
>> incubator for at least another cycle.
>> 
>> report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing 
>> this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Other work:
>> 
>> We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
>> during Juno.
>> 
>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-12 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Nov 12, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Doug Hellmann  wrote:

> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of 
> modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad [1], 
> but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
> modules differently than what I have written below.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> Deleted or deprecated modules:
> 
> funcutils.py - This was present only for python 2.6 support, but it is no 
> longer used in the applications. We are keeping it in the stable/juno branch 
> of the incubator, and removing it from master 
> (https://review.openstack.org/130092)
> 
> hooks.py - This is not being used anywhere, so we are removing it. 
> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125781/)
> 
> quota.py - A new quota management system is being created 
> (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-common-quota-library) and should 
> replace this, so we will keep it in the incubator for now but deprecate it.
> 
> crypto/utils.py - We agreed to mark this as deprecated and encourage the use 
> of Barbican or cryptography.py (https://review.openstack.org/134020)
> 
> cache/ - Morgan is going to be working on a new oslo.cache library as a 
> front-end for dogpile, so this is also deprecated 
> (https://review.openstack.org/134021)
> 
> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).

I left out the cliutils module, which we are treating the same as apiclient. 
The python-openstackclient project replaces cliutils, so we are deprecating 
that as well.

> 
> xmlutils.py - This module was used to provide a security fix for some XML 
> modules that have since been updated directly. It was removed. 
> (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125021/)
> 
> 
> 
> Graduating:
> 
> oslo.context:
> - Dims is driving this
> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-context
> - includes:
>   context.py
> 
> oslo.service:
> - Sachi is driving this
> - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+spec/graduate-oslo-service
> - includes:
>   eventlet_backdoor.py
>   loopingcall.py
>   periodic_task.py
>   request_utils.py
>   service.py
>   sslutils.py
>   systemd.py
>   threadgroup.py
> 
> oslo.utils:
> - We need to look into how to preserve the git history as we import these 
> modules.
> - includes:
>   fileutils.py
>   versionutils.py
> 
> 
> 
> Remaining untouched:
> 
> scheduler/ - Gantt probably makes this code obsolete, but it isn’t clear 
> whether Gantt has enough traction yet so we will hold onto these in the 
> incubator for at least another cycle.
> 
> report/ - There’s interest in creating an oslo.reports library containing 
> this code, but we haven’t had time to coordinate with Solly about doing that.
> 
> 
> 
> Other work:
> 
> We will continue the work on oslo.concurrency and oslo.log that we started 
> during Juno.
> 
> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-oslo-library-proposals
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-12 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Nov 12, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Andreas Jaeger  wrote:

> On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list 
>> of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad 
>> [1], but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
>> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
>> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
>> modules differently than what I have written below.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Deleted or deprecated modules:
>> 
>> [...]
> 
>> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
>> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).
> 
> I see all the python clients using this:
> python-cinderclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
> python-glanceclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
> python-heatclient/openstack-common.conf:modules=importutils,gettextutils,strutils,apiclient.base,apiclient.exceptions
> python-ironicclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
> python-keystoneclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
> python-manilaclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
> python-novaclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
> python-saharaclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient.exceptions
> python-troveclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
> python-tuskarclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
> 
> So, this needs a good transition plan,

Right, the idea is to deprecate it so we won’t work on new features, and 
encourage any energy that would have been spent on new features to go into the 
SDK project instead. We’ll carry the code for bug fixes until we can safely 
delete it completely.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of 
> modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad [1], 
> but as part of the "Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also 
> posting a summary of the outcome here on the mailing list for wider 
> distribution. Let me know if you remembered the outcome for any of these 
> modules differently than what I have written below.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> Deleted or deprecated modules:
> 
> [...]

> apiclient/ - With the SDK project picking up steam, we felt it was safe to 
> deprecate this code as well (https://review.openstack.org/134024).

I see all the python clients using this:
python-cinderclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
python-glanceclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
python-heatclient/openstack-common.conf:modules=importutils,gettextutils,strutils,apiclient.base,apiclient.exceptions
python-ironicclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
python-keystoneclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
python-manilaclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
python-novaclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
python-saharaclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient.exceptions
python-troveclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient
python-tuskarclient/openstack-common.conf:module=apiclient

So, this needs a good transition plan,

Andreas
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