Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
I was willing to go, (plane is ~850€ from Madrid) but it’s going to push too much stress on my family as it’s too close to the summit. (I need to add at least 3 more days because of flights). I’d love to participate remotely, even with the timezone differences, if you find a way to leave “homework" to the ones at CEST without making your work more difficult I’d allocate those days to help where I can/It’s needed. Miguel Ángel ajo @ freenode.net On Friday, 14 de November de 2014 at 00:17, Kyle Mestery wrote: > A severe typo hopefully didn't result in people booking week and a half trips > to Lehi! > > The mid-cycle is as originally planned: December 8-10. > > Thanks, > Kyle > > > On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Carl Baldwin > (mailto:c...@ecbaldwin.net)> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Salvatore Orlando > > (mailto:sorla...@nicira.com)> wrote: > > > No worries, > > > > > > you get one day off over the weekend. And you also get to choose if it's > > > saturday or sunday. > > > > > > > > > I didn't think it was going to be a whole day. > > > > > Salvatore > > > > > > > On 13 November 2014 20:05, Kevin Benton > > > (mailto:blak...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > > December 8-19? 11 day mid-cycle seems a little intense... > > > > If you thought the summits fried your brain... > > > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org (mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org) > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org (mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org) > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
A severe typo hopefully didn't result in people booking week and a half trips to Lehi! The mid-cycle is as originally planned: December 8-10. Thanks, Kyle > On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Carl Baldwin wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Salvatore Orlando >> wrote: >> No worries, >> >> you get one day off over the weekend. And you also get to choose if it's >> saturday or sunday. > > I didn't think it was going to be a whole day. > >> Salvatore >> >>> On 13 November 2014 20:05, Kevin Benton wrote: >>> >>> December 8-19? 11 day mid-cycle seems a little intense... > > If you thought the summits fried your brain... > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > No worries, > > you get one day off over the weekend. And you also get to choose if it's > saturday or sunday. I didn't think it was going to be a whole day. > Salvatore > > On 13 November 2014 20:05, Kevin Benton wrote: >> >> December 8-19? 11 day mid-cycle seems a little intense... If you thought the summits fried your brain... ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
No worries, you get one day off over the weekend. And you also get to choose if it's saturday or sunday. Salvatore On 13 November 2014 20:05, Kevin Benton wrote: > December 8-19? 11 day mid-cycle seems a little intense... > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Kyle Mestery > wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Kyle Mestery >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Kyle Mestery >> wrote: >> >> Hi folks: >> >> >> >> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >> >> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >> >> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >> >> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >> >> USA. >> >> >> >> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >> >> etherpad later today. >> >> >> >> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >> >> Kyle >> >> >> > Folks, just an update, but the host organization is running into some >> > trouble with the selected dates of Dec 8-10. We may need to shift the >> > dates by a week to Dec. 15-17. If you've already booked travel, please >> > ping me privately, otherwise hold off for another day until we sort >> > this out. Apologies for the trouble here. >> > >> OK, we're keeping the mid-cycle at the same place and time: December >> 8-19 at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah. We worked through the >> scheduling kinks. For those who booked travel, you're safe. :) >> >> Thanks! >> Kyle >> >> > Thanks, >> > Kyle >> > >> >> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > > -- > Kevin Benton > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
December 8-19? 11 day mid-cycle seems a little intense... On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Kyle Mestery > wrote: > >> Hi folks: > >> > >> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was > >> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details > >> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 > >> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, > >> USA. > >> > >> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the > >> etherpad later today. > >> > >> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! > >> Kyle > >> > > Folks, just an update, but the host organization is running into some > > trouble with the selected dates of Dec 8-10. We may need to shift the > > dates by a week to Dec. 15-17. If you've already booked travel, please > > ping me privately, otherwise hold off for another day until we sort > > this out. Apologies for the trouble here. > > > OK, we're keeping the mid-cycle at the same place and time: December > 8-19 at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah. We worked through the > scheduling kinks. For those who booked travel, you're safe. :) > > Thanks! > Kyle > > > Thanks, > > Kyle > > > >> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Kevin Benton ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: >> Hi folks: >> >> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >> USA. >> >> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >> etherpad later today. >> >> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >> Kyle >> > Folks, just an update, but the host organization is running into some > trouble with the selected dates of Dec 8-10. We may need to shift the > dates by a week to Dec. 15-17. If you've already booked travel, please > ping me privately, otherwise hold off for another day until we sort > this out. Apologies for the trouble here. > OK, we're keeping the mid-cycle at the same place and time: December 8-19 at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah. We worked through the scheduling kinks. For those who booked travel, you're safe. :) Thanks! Kyle > Thanks, > Kyle > >> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
I cant attend it if it moves to the week of Dec 15th. I have already booked a trip for that week and even other commitments. Is there any chance to push it back to Dec 8th? Thanks, Edgar > On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:18 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: >> Hi folks: >> >> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >> USA. >> >> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >> etherpad later today. >> >> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >> Kyle > Folks, just an update, but the host organization is running into some > trouble with the selected dates of Dec 8-10. We may need to shift the > dates by a week to Dec. 15-17. If you've already booked travel, please > ping me privately, otherwise hold off for another day until we sort > this out. Apologies for the trouble here. > > Thanks, > Kyle > >> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > Hi folks: > > Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was > confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details > on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 > (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, > USA. > > We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the > etherpad later today. > > Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! > Kyle > Folks, just an update, but the host organization is running into some trouble with the selected dates of Dec 8-10. We may need to shift the dates by a week to Dec. 15-17. If you've already booked travel, please ping me privately, otherwise hold off for another day until we sort this out. Apologies for the trouble here. Thanks, Kyle > [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
mit >>> is functional testing for l2-agent and dhcp-agent (as well as the >>> general 'help out/reviews etc'). >> >> >> As we are working to get somebody from QA & Infra at the meetup, we will >> probably have a "working table" dedicated to testing. >> >> >>> Neither of those are controversial or >>> require any particular deep discussion about approach :). >> >> >> We're not meeting to argue or have fights. There's already a summit every 6 >> months for that! This meeting is about finalizing designs into low level >> aspects and then getting our hands dirty on the keyboard. >> >> >>> I am based in >>> the far eastern Mediterranean so 1 month is probably also very close to >>> the minimum time before which you can comfortably plan travel to the >>> states. >>> >>> >> Fortunately there are no easyjets or ryanairs for intercontinental flights. >> You can buy reasonably priced tickets up to 2 weeks before departure. Idk >> where you are precisely but flights from London, Rome, and Munich to Salt >> Lake City are around 850 euros at the moment. >> >> >> >>> thanks! marios >>> >>>> >>>> Having you there is far more productive than not. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Anita. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800: >>>>>>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for >>> spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>>> From: Kyle Mestery [mest...@mestery.com] >>>>>>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14 >>>>>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [ >>> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google >>>>>>> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> Kyle >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi folks: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I >>> was >>>>>>>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the >>> details >>>>>>>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >>>>>>>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, >>> Utah, >>>>>>>>> USA. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >>>>>>>>> etherpad later today. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >>>>>>>>> Kyle >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
nental flights. > You can buy reasonably priced tickets up to 2 weeks before departure. Idk > where you are precisely but flights from London, Rome, and Munich to Salt > Lake City are around 850 euros at the moment. > > > >> thanks! marios >> >>> >>> Having you there is far more productive than not. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Anita. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800: >>>>>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for >> spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_ >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: Kyle Mestery [mest...@mestery.com] >>>>>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14 >>>>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [ >> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton >> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>> >>>>>> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google >>>>>> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> Kyle >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi folks: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I >> was >>>>>>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the >> details >>>>>>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >>>>>>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, >> Utah, >>>>>>>> USA. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >>>>>>>> etherpad later today. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >>>>>>>> Kyle >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >> >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
On 12 November 2014 09:53, marios wrote: > On 12/11/14 11:18, Anita Kuno wrote: > > On 11/12/2014 08:04 AM, marios wrote: > >> On 12/11/14 04:17, Clint Byrum wrote: > >>> Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an > >>> important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication > between > >>> contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a > >>> useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth > >>> slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not > be > >>> a productive thing as a whole. > >>> > >>> Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before. > >> > >> I understand but I am definitely not saying the room should slow down > >> for someone on hangout - heck I'd be ecstatic if microphones are even > >> used). In my experience this can work best if it is understood that > >> remotees have a read-only feed into the room audio (best case + video of > >> slides) - it makes the world of difference compared to say just staring > >> at the etherpad being updated. I don't see this as having a high cost > >> to setup (just point a laptop at the speaker, end), > >> > >> If you are a remotee and need read/write into the meeeting then you > >> should prepare beforehand and have stuff written down to share. It is > >> only common courtesy, and I absolutely agree it would be in the very > >> least inconsiderate to expect the room to stop/slow down to allow any > >> kind of conversation to happen over hangout. In fact, just click the > >> on-air button and that way you get a youtube link to share, which > >> obviously *is* read-only (r/w participation is limited @ 10 afaik), > >> > >> my 2c, thanks, marios > > You seem to have put quite a bit of thought into this marios, why can't > > you attend? If the reason is purely financial, please approach Kyle in > > private and I will contact him as well to see if we can access some > > finances for folks committed to working on the technical debt for > > neutron that need financial assistance. > > thanks very much for your kind offer Anita :) - my gut feeling is that > this kind of funding shouldn't be used to subsidize travel for corporate > engineers, but it is excellent to know it is there regardles. > You should not see yourself as evil and not worth using foundation budget just because you work for a private enterprise! After all - it's corporations like yours and mine which fund OpenStack. If for any reason your employer can' authorise your travel, and - obviously - if you want to come, you should probably do as Anita suggests. > To be fair I haven't even mentioned this to my manager - imo it doesn't > make sense for this one. The specific technical debt I scored at summit > is functional testing for l2-agent and dhcp-agent (as well as the > general 'help out/reviews etc'). As we are working to get somebody from QA & Infra at the meetup, we will probably have a "working table" dedicated to testing. > Neither of those are controversial or > require any particular deep discussion about approach :). We're not meeting to argue or have fights. There's already a summit every 6 months for that! This meeting is about finalizing designs into low level aspects and then getting our hands dirty on the keyboard. > I am based in > the far eastern Mediterranean so 1 month is probably also very close to > the minimum time before which you can comfortably plan travel to the > states. > > Fortunately there are no easyjets or ryanairs for intercontinental flights. You can buy reasonably priced tickets up to 2 weeks before departure. Idk where you are precisely but flights from London, Rome, and Munich to Salt Lake City are around 850 euros at the moment. > thanks! marios > > > > > Having you there is far more productive than not. > > > > Thank you, > > Anita. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800: > >>>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for > spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_ > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: Kyle Mestery [mest...@mestery.com] > >>>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14 > >>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
On 12/11/14 11:18, Anita Kuno wrote: > On 11/12/2014 08:04 AM, marios wrote: >> On 12/11/14 04:17, Clint Byrum wrote: >>> Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an >>> important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication between >>> contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a >>> useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth >>> slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not be >>> a productive thing as a whole. >>> >>> Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before. >> >> I understand but I am definitely not saying the room should slow down >> for someone on hangout - heck I'd be ecstatic if microphones are even >> used). In my experience this can work best if it is understood that >> remotees have a read-only feed into the room audio (best case + video of >> slides) - it makes the world of difference compared to say just staring >> at the etherpad being updated. I don't see this as having a high cost >> to setup (just point a laptop at the speaker, end), >> >> If you are a remotee and need read/write into the meeeting then you >> should prepare beforehand and have stuff written down to share. It is >> only common courtesy, and I absolutely agree it would be in the very >> least inconsiderate to expect the room to stop/slow down to allow any >> kind of conversation to happen over hangout. In fact, just click the >> on-air button and that way you get a youtube link to share, which >> obviously *is* read-only (r/w participation is limited @ 10 afaik), >> >> my 2c, thanks, marios > You seem to have put quite a bit of thought into this marios, why can't > you attend? If the reason is purely financial, please approach Kyle in > private and I will contact him as well to see if we can access some > finances for folks committed to working on the technical debt for > neutron that need financial assistance. thanks very much for your kind offer Anita :) - my gut feeling is that this kind of funding shouldn't be used to subsidize travel for corporate engineers, but it is excellent to know it is there regardles. To be fair I haven't even mentioned this to my manager - imo it doesn't make sense for this one. The specific technical debt I scored at summit is functional testing for l2-agent and dhcp-agent (as well as the general 'help out/reviews etc'). Neither of those are controversial or require any particular deep discussion about approach :). I am based in the far eastern Mediterranean so 1 month is probably also very close to the minimum time before which you can comfortably plan travel to the states. thanks! marios > > Having you there is far more productive than not. > > Thank you, > Anita. >> >> >>> >>> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800: >>>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_ >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Kyle Mestery [mest...@mestery.com] >>>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14 >>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>>> [openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] >>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Gary >>>>> >>>> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google >>>> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Kyle >>>> >>>>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks: >>>>>> >>>>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >>>>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >>>>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >>>>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >>>>>> USA. >>>>>> >>>>>> We're still collecting information on hote
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
On 11/12/2014 08:04 AM, marios wrote: > On 12/11/14 04:17, Clint Byrum wrote: >> Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an >> important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication between >> contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a >> useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth >> slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not be >> a productive thing as a whole. >> >> Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before. > > I understand but I am definitely not saying the room should slow down > for someone on hangout - heck I'd be ecstatic if microphones are even > used). In my experience this can work best if it is understood that > remotees have a read-only feed into the room audio (best case + video of > slides) - it makes the world of difference compared to say just staring > at the etherpad being updated. I don't see this as having a high cost > to setup (just point a laptop at the speaker, end), > > If you are a remotee and need read/write into the meeeting then you > should prepare beforehand and have stuff written down to share. It is > only common courtesy, and I absolutely agree it would be in the very > least inconsiderate to expect the room to stop/slow down to allow any > kind of conversation to happen over hangout. In fact, just click the > on-air button and that way you get a youtube link to share, which > obviously *is* read-only (r/w participation is limited @ 10 afaik), > > my 2c, thanks, marios You seem to have put quite a bit of thought into this marios, why can't you attend? If the reason is purely financial, please approach Kyle in private and I will contact him as well to see if we can access some finances for folks committed to working on the technical debt for neutron that need financial assistance. Having you there is far more productive than not. Thank you, Anita. > > >> >> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800: >>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going >>> >>> >>> >>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_ >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Kyle Mestery [mest...@mestery.com] >>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14 >>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>> [openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? >>>> Thanks >>>> Gary >>>> >>> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google >>> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Kyle >>> >>>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks: >>>>> >>>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >>>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >>>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >>>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >>>>> USA. >>>>> >>>>> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >>>>> etherpad later today. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >>>>> Kyle >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >>> ___ >>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
On 12/11/14 04:17, Clint Byrum wrote: > Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an > important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication between > contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a > useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth > slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not be > a productive thing as a whole. > > Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before. I understand but I am definitely not saying the room should slow down for someone on hangout - heck I'd be ecstatic if microphones are even used). In my experience this can work best if it is understood that remotees have a read-only feed into the room audio (best case + video of slides) - it makes the world of difference compared to say just staring at the etherpad being updated. I don't see this as having a high cost to setup (just point a laptop at the speaker, end), If you are a remotee and need read/write into the meeeting then you should prepare beforehand and have stuff written down to share. It is only common courtesy, and I absolutely agree it would be in the very least inconsiderate to expect the room to stop/slow down to allow any kind of conversation to happen over hangout. In fact, just click the on-air button and that way you get a youtube link to share, which obviously *is* read-only (r/w participation is limited @ 10 afaik), my 2c, thanks, marios > > Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800: >> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going >> >> >> >> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_ >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Kyle Mestery [mest...@mestery.com] >> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14 >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> [openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement >> >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: >>> Hi, >>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? >>> Thanks >>> Gary >>> >> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google >> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. >> >> Thanks! >> Kyle >> >>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: >>> >>>> Hi folks: >>>> >>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >>>> USA. >>>> >>>> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >>>> etherpad later today. >>>> >>>> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >>>> Kyle >>>> >>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication between contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not be a productive thing as a whole. Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before. Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800: > +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going > > > > _sent from my mobile device, sorry for spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_ > > -Original Message- > From: Kyle Mestery [mest...@mestery.com] > Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > [openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > > Hi, > > For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? > > Thanks > > Gary > > > We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google > Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. > > Thanks! > Kyle > > > On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: > > > >>Hi folks: > >> > >>Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was > >>confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details > >>on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 > >>(Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, > >>USA. > >> > >>We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the > >>etherpad later today. > >> > >>Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! > >>Kyle > >> > >>[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle > >> > >>___ > >>OpenStack-dev mailing list > >>OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > >>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Kyle Mestery wrote: >> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >> USA. > > Could you add it to the list @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints ? > Cheers, > Done, thanks for the heads up! Also, I've deprecated the etherpad and moved everything to the wiki page here [1]. Thanks, Kyle [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/NeutronKiloSprint > -- > Thierry Carrez (ttx) > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
I'd be happy to donate a Go To Meeting for the session, if desired. Not sure if / how it is better than Google Hangout. I know we can get GTM's for 100's of participants. Not sure how many Google Hangout can support, with something like slide sharing occuring. Anyway, let me know if you'd like me to set one up. On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > > Hi, > > For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? > > Thanks > > Gary > > > We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google > Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. > > Thanks! > Kyle > > > On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: > > > >>Hi folks: > >> > >>Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was > >>confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details > >>on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 > >>(Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, > >>USA. > >> > >>We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the > >>etherpad later today. > >> > >>Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! > >>Kyle > >> > >>[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle > >> > >>___ > >>OpenStack-dev mailing list > >>OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > >>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Open industry-related email from Gregory M. Lebovitz ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
+1 would be great to at least have a hangout going _sent from my mobile device, sorry for spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_ -Original Message- From: Kyle Mestery [mest...@mestery.com] Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > Hi, > For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? > Thanks > Gary > We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. Thanks! Kyle > On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: > >>Hi folks: >> >>Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >>confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >>on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >>(Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >>USA. >> >>We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >>etherpad later today. >> >>Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >>Kyle >> >>[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle >> >>___ >>OpenStack-dev mailing list >>OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
Kyle Mestery wrote: > Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was > confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details > on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 > (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, > USA. Could you add it to the list @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints ? Cheers, -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > Hi, > For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? > Thanks > Gary > We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC. Thanks! Kyle > On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: > >>Hi folks: >> >>Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >>confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >>on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >>(Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >>USA. >> >>We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >>etherpad later today. >> >>Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >>Kyle >> >>[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle >> >>___ >>OpenStack-dev mailing list >>OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
Hi, For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access? Thanks Gary On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" wrote: >Hi folks: > >Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was >confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details >on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 >(Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, >USA. > >We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the >etherpad later today. > >Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! >Kyle > >[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle > >___ >OpenStack-dev mailing list >OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
Hi folks: Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10 (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah, USA. We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the etherpad later today. Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris! Kyle [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
