Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Why are we continuing to add new namespaced oslo libs?

2015-01-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 01/24/2015 02:01 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015, at 07:48 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, I've just noticed that oslo.log made it to global-requirements.txt 9 days ago. How come are we still adding some

[openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread Eugeniya Kudryashova
Hi, all Openstack APIs interact with each other and external systems partially by passing of HTTP errors. The only valuable difference between types of exceptions is HTTP-codes, but current codes are generalized, so external system can’t distinguish what actually happened. As an example two

[openstack-dev] oslo.middleware 0.4.0 released

2015-01-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of: oslo.middleware 0.4.0: Oslo Middleware library This release adds a new middleware class for adding a health-check endpoint to a REST service. For more details, please see the git log history below and:

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Why are we continuing to add new namespaced oslo libs?

2015-01-29 Thread Julien Danjou
On Thu, Jan 29 2015, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi Thomas, The Debian policy is that Python module packages should be named after the import statement in a source file. Meaning that if we do: import oslo_db then the package should be called python-oslo-db. This means that I will have to

[openstack-dev] [Heat][Keystone] Native keystone resources in Heat

2015-01-29 Thread Zane Bitter
I got a question today about creating keystone users/roles/tenants in Heat templates. We currently support creating users via the AWS::IAM::User resource, but we don't have a native equivalent. IIUC keystone now allows you to add users to a domain that is otherwise backed by a read-only

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-01-29 18:35:20 +0200 (+0200), Roman Podoliaka wrote: [...] Otherwise, PyMySQL would be much slower than MySQL-Python for the typical SQL queries we do (e.g. ask for *a lot* of data from the DB). [...] Is this assertion based on representative empirical testing (for example profiling

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Roman Podoliaka
Hi all, Mike, thanks for summarizing this in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PyMySQL_evaluation ! On PyMySQL: this is something we need to enable testing of oslo.db on Python 3.x and PyPy. Though, I doubt we want to make PyMySQL the default DB API driver for OpenStack services for Python 2.x. At

Re: [openstack-dev] [barbican] python-barbicanclient 3.0.2 released

2015-01-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: On 01/27/2015 05:21 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 01/27/2015 03:55 PM, Douglas Mendizabal wrote: Hi openstack-dev, The barbican team would like to announce the release of python-barbicanclient 3.0.2. This is a minor release that fixes a bug in the pbr versioning that was

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Bayer
Roman Podoliaka rpodoly...@mirantis.com wrote: On native threads vs green threads: I very much like the Keystone approach, which allows to run the service using either eventlet or Apache. It would be great, if we could do that for other services as well. but why do we need two approaches

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] high dhcp lease times in neutron deployments considered harmful (or not???)

2015-01-29 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:55 AM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: Why would users want to change an active port's IP address anyway? Re-addressing. It's not common, but the entire reason I brought this up is because a user was moving an instance to another subnet on the same network and

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Eugeniya Kudryashova ekudryash...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, all Openstack APIs interact with each other and external systems partially by passing of HTTP errors. The only valuable difference between types of exceptions is HTTP-codes, but current codes are

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Roman Podoliaka
Jeremy, I don't have exact numbers, so yeah, it's just an assumption based on looking at the nova-api/scheduler logs with connection_debug set to 100. But that's a good point you are making here: it will be interesting to see what difference enabling of PyMySQL will make for tempest/rally

Re: [openstack-dev] [barbican] python-barbicanclient 3.0.2 released

2015-01-29 Thread Morgan Fainberg
Good question! I was planning a keystone liens release very soon, but will hold off of it will break everything. --Morgan On Thursday, January 29, 2015, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Sean Dague wrote: On 01/27/2015 05:21 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 01/27/2015 03:55 PM, Douglas

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Thursday, January 29, 2015, Roman Podoliaka rpodoly...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi all, Mike, thanks for summarizing this in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PyMySQL_evaluation ! On PyMySQL: this is something we need to enable testing of oslo.db on Python 3.x and PyPy. Though, I doubt we want

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Next meeting agenda

2015-01-29 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Everett Toews wrote: A couple of important topics came up as a result of attending the Cross Project Meeting. I’ve added both to the agenda for the next meeting on Thursday 2015/01/29 at 16:00 UTC.

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Next meeting agenda

2015-01-29 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/29/2015 07:17 AM, Anne Gentle wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Everett Toews wrote: A couple of important topics came up as a result of attending the Cross Project Meeting. I’ve added

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Keystone] Native keystone resources in Heat

2015-01-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:41:36AM -0500, Zane Bitter wrote: I got a question today about creating keystone users/roles/tenants in Heat templates. We currently support creating users via the AWS::IAM::User resource, but we don't have a native equivalent. Note that AWS::IAM::User actually

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Roman Podoliaka
Mike, I can't agree more: as far as we are concerned, every service is yet another WSGI app. And it should be left up to operator, how to deploy it. So 'green thread awareness' (i.e. patching of the world) should go to separate keystone|*-eventlet binary, while everyone else will still be able

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Take back the naming process

2015-01-29 Thread Anita Kuno
On 01/28/2015 07:24 PM, Adam Lawson wrote: I'm short on time so I apologize for my candor since I need to get straight to the point. I love reading the various opinions and my team is immensely excited with OpenStack is maturing. But this is lunacy. I looked at the patch being worked [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [barbican] python-barbicanclient 3.0.2 released

2015-01-29 Thread Kyle Mestery
Maybe we should defer all client releases until we know for sure if each of them are ticking timebombs. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: Good question! I was planning a keystone liens release very soon, but will hold off of it will break

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread Roman Podoliaka
Hi Anne, I think Eugeniya refers to a problem, that we can't really distinguish between two different badRequest (400) errors (e.g. wrong security group name vs wrong key pair name when starting an instance), unless we parse the error description, which might be error prone. Thanks, Roman On

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Why are we continuing to add new namespaced oslo libs?

2015-01-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Julien Danjou wrote: On Thu, Jan 29 2015, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi Thomas, The Debian policy is that Python module packages should be named after the import statement in a source file. Meaning that if we do: import oslo_db then the package should be called python-oslo-db. This means

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Cluster replaced deployment of provisioning information

2015-01-29 Thread Evgeniy L
Dmitry, But why to add another interface when there is one already (rest api)? I'm ok if we decide to use REST API, but of course there is a problem which we should solve, like versioning, which is much harder to support, than versioning in core-serializers. Also do you have any ideas how it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Keystone] Native keystone resources in Heat

2015-01-29 Thread Zane Bitter
On 29/01/15 12:03, Steven Hardy wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:41:36AM -0500, Zane Bitter wrote: IIUC keystone now allows you to add users to a domain that is otherwise backed by a read-only backend (i.e. LDAP). If this means that it's now possible to configure a cloud so that one need not

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nominating Melanie Witt for python-novaclient-core

2015-01-29 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 01/27/2015 11:41 PM, Michael Still wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate Melanie Witt for the python-novaclient-core team. (What is python-novaclient-core? Its a new group which will contain all of nova-core as well as anyone else we think should have core reviewer powers on just

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] [Puppet] Manifests for granular deploy steps and testing results against the host OS

2015-01-29 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Guys, could you point out where I suggested to use python for testing puppet manifests? On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Sergii Golovatiuk sgolovat...@mirantis.com wrote: We need to write tests in way how Puppet community writes. Though if user uses salt in one stage, it's fine to use tests

[openstack-dev] CLI support in ML2 driver

2015-01-29 Thread Naresh Kumar
Hi, I have more expertise in Opendaylight than Openstack.I have created a CLI application in Opendaylight which uses AdventNetCLI library in SB that will create/delete services in my non-openflow carrier ethernet switch through RESTCONF(It's working!). I want this app to be called from the

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins repositories moved to stackforge

2015-01-29 Thread Alexander Kislitsky
Hi, guys All our plugins repositories are moved to stackforge. Each plugin has separate repo and now can be maintained independently from core product cycle and without core-team attraction. Here is a map of migration: https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-plugins/tree/master/external_glusterfs -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Swift] Swift GUI (free or open source)?

2015-01-29 Thread Nicolas Trangez
On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 17:35 -0800, Adam Lawson wrote: Okay cool beans. Incidentally, are there any efforts out there going through the motions that you know about (even abandoned)? I'd be willing to prop them a bit if they're low on development resources.. I don't know of any such project(s),

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Distribution of keys for environments

2015-01-29 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Dmitry, Evgeniy This is exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned serializers for tasks - taking data from 3rd party sources if user wants. In this case user will be able to generate some data somewhere and fetch it using this code that we import. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:08 AM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] high dhcp lease times in neutron deployments considered harmful (or not???)

2015-01-29 Thread Kevin Benton
Why would users want to change an active port's IP address anyway? Re-addressing. It's not common, but the entire reason I brought this up is because a user was moving an instance to another subnet on the same network and stranded one of their VMs. I worry about setting a default config value

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Deprecation of LDAP Assignment (Only Affects Project/Tenant/Role/Assignment info in LDAP)

2015-01-29 Thread Tim Bell
-Original Message- From: Morgan Fainberg [mailto:morgan.fainb...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 January 2015 21:29 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Deprecation of LDAP Assignment (Only Affects Project/Tenant/Role/Assignment

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins repositories moved to stackforge

2015-01-29 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Do we have a plan to enable CI for this repositories? Tests to run on commits, nightly builds, integration with nightly system tests? Should it be part of Fuel CI or completely independent? On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Alexander Kislitsky akislit...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi, guys All our

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Cluster replaced deployment of provisioning information

2015-01-29 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Guys I would just like to point out that we will certainly need to consume resources from 3rd party sources also. We also want to remove any specific data manipulation from puppet code. Please, consider these use cases also. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Dmitriy Shulyak dshul...@mirantis.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Plugins repositories moved to stackforge

2015-01-29 Thread Alexander Kislitsky
CI is requirement only for certified plugins. Is CI part of Fuel CI or not depends only on the plugin. In some cases we just can't run plugin CI on Fuel CI environment. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Aleksandra Fedorova afedor...@mirantis.com wrote: Do we have a plan to enable CI for this

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][oslo] oslo namespace package releases are done

2015-01-29 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
On 01/29/2015 01:00 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: You will all, I am sure, be relieved to know that the oslo.vmware release today was the last library that needed to be released with namespace package changes. There are a few more patches to land to the requirements list to update the minimum

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack][dev][Zuul] Merge Failed Error in CI - GitPython Error

2015-01-29 Thread Punith S
yes, thanks for the posting the patch ramy. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Asselin, Ramy ramy.asse...@hp.com wrote: Punith, I think it’s because when you installed fresh again on 14.04, the zuul GitPython dependency was updated to the latest. I proposed this zuul patch to fix it:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Distribution of keys for environments

2015-01-29 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Evgeniy This is not about layers - it is about how we get data. And we need to separate data sources from the way we manipulate it. Thus, sources may be: 1) Nailgun DB 2) Users inventory system 3) Opendata like, list of Google DNS Servers. Then all this data is aggregated and transformed somehow.

Re: [openstack-dev] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread Alexandre Levine
Thomas, I'm the lead of the team working on it. The project is in a release-candidate state and the EC2 (non-VPC) part is just being finished, so there are no tags or branches yet. Also we were not sure about what should we do with it since we were told that it'll have a chance of going as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Distribution of keys for environments

2015-01-29 Thread Evgeniy L
Vladimir, It's no clear how it's going to help. You can generate keys with one tasks and then upload them with another task, why do we need another layer/entity here? Thanks, On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Vladimir Kuklin vkuk...@mirantis.com wrote: Dmitry, Evgeniy This is exactly what I

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Next meeting agenda

2015-01-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Everett Toews wrote: A couple of important topics came up as a result of attending the Cross Project Meeting. I’ve added both to the agenda for the next meeting on Thursday 2015/01/29 at 16:00 UTC. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda The first is the suggestion from ttx

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] [Puppet] Manifests for granular deploy steps and testing results against the host OS

2015-01-29 Thread Tomasz Napierala
I hope, we don’t even consider using python for that. Let’s be as close as possible to community and use rspec for manifests. Regards, On 29 Jan 2015, at 09:50, Vladimir Kuklin vkuk...@mirantis.com wrote: Guys, could you point out where I suggested to use python for testing puppet

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Deprecation of LDAP Assignment (Only Affects Project/Tenant/Role/Assignment info in LDAP)

2015-01-29 Thread Yuriy Taraday
Hello. On Wed Jan 28 2015 at 11:30:43 PM Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: LDAP is used in Keystone as a backend for both the Identity (Users and groups) and assignments (assigning roles to users) backend. Where did the LDAP Assignment backend come from? We originally had a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel][Plugins][Orchestration] Unclear handling of primary-controler and controller roles

2015-01-29 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi, Ok, looks like everybody agree that we should implement similar approach for plugins. But I'm not sure if we should implicitly assume that primary is set if there is only 'controller', in this case we won't be able to run some tasks on controllers only. Thanks, On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:05

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] removing single mode

2015-01-29 Thread Aleksandr Didenko
Mike, Any objections / additional suggestions? no objections from me, and it's already covered by LP 1415116 bug [1] [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1415116 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Mike Scherbakov mscherba...@mirantis.com wrote: Folks, one of the things we should not

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] [Puppet] Manifests for granular deploy steps and testing results against the host OS

2015-01-29 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Guys I just suggested to use serverspec as beaker is a kind of overkill duplicating our fuel-devops framework, so that we do not need to mess with beaker ways of environment creation. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Tomasz Napierala tnapier...@mirantis.com wrote: I hope, we don’t even consider

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] The libvirt.cpu_mode and libvirt.cpu_model

2015-01-29 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:10:29PM +, Jiang, Yunhong wrote: Hi, Daniel I recently tried the libvirt.cpu_mode and libvirt.cpu_model when I was working on cpu_info related code and found bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1412994 . The reason is because with these two flags,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel][Fuel-Library] MVP implementation of Granular Deployment merged into Fuel master branch

2015-01-29 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi, +1 to Dmitriy's comment. We can spend several month on polishing the spec, will it help to release feature in time? I don't think so. Also with your suggestion we'll get a lot of patches over 2 thousands lines of code, after spec is merged. Huge patches reduce quality, because it's too hard

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Change diagnostic snapshot compression algoritm

2015-01-29 Thread Tomasz Napierala
Guys, We have requests for this improvement. It will help with huge environments, we are talking about 5GiB of logs. Is it on the agenda? Regards, On 22 Dec 2014, at 07:28, Bartlomiej Piotrowski bpiotrow...@mirantis.com wrote: FYI, xz with multithreading support (5.2 release) has been

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Next meeting agenda

2015-01-29 Thread Ryan Brown
On 01/29/2015 10:20 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 01/29/2015 07:17 AM, Anne Gentle wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Everett Toews wrote: A couple of important topics came up as a result of attending the

[openstack-dev] Weekly status report (Thu, Jan 22)

2015-01-29 Thread Matthias Runge
Hello, a bit early, but here's my status report for the past week RED: - none AMBER: - still preparing my workshop for devconf in Brno - prepared a patch to add OVA format to horizon https://review.openstack.org/150751 - continued JavaScript fun - cleaned up blueprints upstream - bugzilla

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015, at 07:57 PM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 28, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: I hope someone who was around at the time will chime in with more detail about why

Re: [openstack-dev] Weekly status report (Thu, Jan 22)

2015-01-29 Thread Matthias Runge
On 29/01/15 13:20, Matthias Runge wrote: Hello, a bit early, but here's my status report for the past week Yupp, please ignore the noise here. Matthias __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] CLI support in ML2 driver

2015-01-29 Thread Mathieu Rohon
Hi, you can develop you own service plugin which extends the current Neutron API, and transforms Neutron API call in ODL NB API call. You can take example from the GBP service plugin to understand how to route Neutron API call to an independent service plugin. regards, Mathieu On Thu, Jan

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Take back the naming process

2015-01-29 Thread Adam Lawson
Hi Anne; this was more or less directed in Monty's direction and/or those in agreement with his position. Sorry for the confusion, I probably should have been a bit more clear. ; ) Mahalo, Adam *Adam Lawson* AQORN, Inc. 427 North Tatnall Street Ste. 58461 Wilmington, Delaware 19801-2230

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] The libvirt.cpu_mode and libvirt.cpu_model

2015-01-29 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
-Original Message- From: Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:34 AM To: Jiang, Yunhong Cc: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [nova] The libvirt.cpu_mode and libvirt.cpu_model On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:10:29PM +,

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread Sean Dague
Correct. This actually came up at the Nova mid cycle in a side conversation with Ironic and Neutron folks. HTTP error codes are not sufficiently granular to describe what happens when a REST service goes wrong, especially if it goes wrong in a way that would let the client do something other than

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Why are we continuing to add new namespaced oslo libs?

2015-01-29 Thread Joshua Harlow
Just something to note; anvil has never ran had issues with this (afaik). It seems fairly easy to have a mapping/algorithm/other... that is used imho (and this is just what anvil has); I don't recall that the number of problems with weird names has been any real issue when building rpms...

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
On 01/29/2015 05:57 PM, Roman Podoliaka wrote: Jeremy, I don't have exact numbers, so yeah, it's just an assumption based on looking at the nova-api/scheduler logs with connection_debug set to 100. But that's a good point you are making here: it will be interesting to see what difference

Re: [openstack-dev] [barbican] python-barbicanclient 3.0.2 released

2015-01-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: So, honestly, yes. For a library to release safely it must: * have stable-compat jobs running (this was the issue with barbican client) * if it has a stable/juno branch it must be pinned in stable/juno (this was the issue on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Keystone] Native keystone resources in Heat

2015-01-29 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2015-01-29 08:41:36 -0800: I got a question today about creating keystone users/roles/tenants in Heat templates. We currently support creating users via the AWS::IAM::User resource, but we don't have a native equivalent. IIUC keystone now allows you

Re: [openstack-dev] [barbican] python-barbicanclient 3.0.2 released

2015-01-29 Thread Sean Dague
So, honestly, yes. For a library to release safely it must: * have stable-compat jobs running (this was the issue with barbican client) * if it has a stable/juno branch it must be pinned in stable/juno (this was the issue on most of the oslo libs) -Sean On 01/29/2015 12:07 PM, Kyle

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread John Dickinson
If you're going to make up your own extensions[1] to HTTP, why don't you use ones that are already used? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943891 [1] ok, what's proposed isn't technically an extension, it's response body context for the response code. But response bodies are hard to modify

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Distribution of keys for environments

2015-01-29 Thread Evgeniy L
Vladimir, 1) Nailgun DB Just a small note, we should not provide access to the database, this approach has serious issues, what we can do is to provide this information for example via REST API. What you are saying is already implemented in any deployment tool for example lets take a look at

Re: [openstack-dev] [barbican] python-barbicanclient 3.0.2 released

2015-01-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-01-29 09:00:42 -0800 (-0800), Morgan Fainberg wrote: Good question! I was planning a keystone liens release very soon, but will hold off of it will break everything.  I believe part of the problem is that python-barbicanclient doesn't yet have backward-compatibility jobs running on its

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Jan 29, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Roman Podoliaka rpodoly...@mirantis.com wrote: Jeremy, I don't have exact numbers, so yeah, it's just an assumption based on looking at the nova-api/scheduler logs with connection_debug set to 100. But that's a good point you are making here: it will be

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Vishvananda Ishaya's message of 2015-01-29 10:21:58 -0800: On Jan 29, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Roman Podoliaka rpodoly...@mirantis.com wrote: Jeremy, I don't have exact numbers, so yeah, it's just an assumption based on looking at the nova-api/scheduler logs with

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Next meeting agenda

2015-01-29 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 1/29/15, 04:10, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Everett Toews wrote: A couple of important topics came up as a result of attending the Cross Project Meeting. I’ve added both to the agenda for the next meeting on Thursday 2015/01/29 at 16:00 UTC.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Why are we continuing to add new namespaced oslo libs?

2015-01-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/24/2015 02:01 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015, at 07:48 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, I've just noticed that oslo.log made it to global-requirements.txt 9 days ago. How come are we still adding some name.spaced oslo libs? Wasn't the outcome of the discussion in Paris

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Ed Leafe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2015 06:57 PM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: Not sure if it helps more than this explanation, but there was a blueprint and accompanying wiki page that explains the move from twisted to eventlet: Yeah, it was never threads vs. greenthreads.

Re: [openstack-dev] problems with instance consoles and novnc

2015-01-29 Thread David Moreau Simard
Is SSL involved anywhere from the client browser to the server ? Is there any load balancing ? Which load balancer software ? -- David Moreau Simard On 2015-01-28, 11:57 PM, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: On 01/28/2015 10:33 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: On 2015-01-28 11:13 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-01-29 10:21:58 -0800 (-0800), Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: [...] I don’t think switching is going to give us much benefit right away. We will need a few optimizations and bugfixes in other areas (particularly in our sqlalchemy usage) before we will derive any benefit from the switch.

[openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues

2015-01-29 Thread Morgan Fainberg
As a quick preface, today there is the assumption you can upgrade and downgrade your SQL Schema. For the most part we do our best to test all of this in our unit tests (do upgrades and downgrades land us in the same schema). What isn’t clearly addressed is that the concept of downgrade might be

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] volunteer to be rep for third-party CI

2015-01-29 Thread Ruby Loo
Hi, Want to contribute even more to the Ironic community? Here's your opportunity! Anita Kuno (anteaya) would like someone to be the Ironic representative for third party CIs. What would you have to do? In her own words: mostly I need to know who they are so that when someone has questions I can

Re: [openstack-dev] [barbican] python-barbicanclient 3.0.2 released

2015-01-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015, at 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: So, honestly, yes. For a library to release safely it must: * have stable-compat jobs running (this was the issue with barbican client) * if it has a stable/juno

[openstack-dev] django-openstack-auth and stable/icehouse

2015-01-29 Thread Ryan Hsu
Hi All, There was a change [1] 2 days ago in django-openstack-auth that introduces a new requirement oslo.config=1.6.0 to the project, which is now present in the 1.1.9 release of django-openstack-auth. While this change is in sync with master requirements, oslo.config=1.6.0, it does not jive

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] team meeting Jan 29 1400 UTC

2015-01-29 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-01-29-14.04.html Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2015/sahara.2015-01-29-14.04.log.html On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi folks, We'll be having the

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] API Definition Formats

2015-01-29 Thread michael mccune
On 01/28/2015 12:56 PM, Max Lincoln wrote: tl;dr: I wanted to be able to see what OpenStack APIs might look like in Swagger and starting experimenting with Swagger in projects for things like stubbing services, API test coverage, and code generation. In order to do that I created wadl2swagger

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues

2015-01-29 Thread Monty Taylor
On 01/29/2015 11:06 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: As a quick preface, today there is the assumption you can upgrade and downgrade your SQL Schema. For the most part we do our best to test all of this in our unit tests (do upgrades and downgrades land us in the same schema). What isn’t clearly

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread Kevin Benton
I don't understand what you are suggesting here. All of these codes will be for specific openstack service error conditions. The codes in the link you provided don't provide any useful information to callers other than more details about how a web-server is (mis)configured. I didn't see anything

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread Brant Knudson
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: Correct. This actually came up at the Nova mid cycle in a side conversation with Ironic and Neutron folks. HTTP error codes are not sufficiently granular to describe what happens when a REST service goes wrong, especially if

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Take back the naming process

2015-01-29 Thread Anita Kuno
On 01/29/2015 11:56 AM, Adam Lawson wrote: Hi Anne; this was more or less directed in Monty's direction and/or those in agreement with his position. Sorry for the confusion, I probably should have been a bit more clear. ; ) Mahalo, Adam Okay, thanks Adam. My name is Anita. Thanks, Anita.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues

2015-01-29 Thread Donald Stufft
On Jan 29, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 01/29/2015 11:06 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: As a quick preface, today there is the assumption you can upgrade and downgrade your SQL Schema. For the most part we do our best to test all of this in our unit tests (do

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread John Dickinson
I think there are two points. First, the original requirement (in the first email on this thread) is not what's wanted: ...looking at the response body and HTTP response code an external system can’t understand what exactly went wrong. And parsing of error messages here is not the way we’d

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues

2015-01-29 Thread gordon chung
Are downward migrations really a good idea for us to support? Is this downward migration path a sane expectation? In the real world, would any one really trust the data after migrating downwards? are downward migrations actually mandated? i always assumed it was just been a pain that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] volunteer to be rep for third-party CI

2015-01-29 Thread Anita Kuno
On 01/29/2015 02:32 PM, Adam Lawson wrote: Hi ruby, I'd be interested in this. Let me know next steps when ready? Thanks! Hi Adam: It requires someone who knows the code base really well. While core review permissions are not required, the person fulfilling this role needs to have the

Re: [openstack-dev] design question : green thread model

2015-01-29 Thread Belmiro Moreira
Hi, nova-conductor starts multiple processes as well. Belmiro On Wednesday, January 28, 2015, Johannes Erdfelt johan...@erdfelt.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015, murali reddy muralimmre...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On hosts with multi-core processors, it does not seem optimal to run a

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] high dhcp lease times in neutron deployments considered harmful (or not???)

2015-01-29 Thread Kevin Benton
How is Neutron breaking this? If I move a port on my physical switch to a different subnet, can you still communicate with the host sitting on it? Probably not since it has a view of the world (next-hop router) that no longer exists, and the network won't route packets for it's old IP address to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] volunteer to be rep for third-party CI

2015-01-29 Thread Adam Lawson
Hi ruby, I'd be interested in this. Let me know next steps when ready? Thanks! On Jan 29, 2015 11:14 AM, Ruby Loo rlooya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Want to contribute even more to the Ironic community? Here's your opportunity! Anita Kuno (anteaya) would like someone to be the Ironic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] removing single mode

2015-01-29 Thread Igor Belikov
Folks, Changes in CI jobs have been made, for master branch of fuel-library we are running CentOS HA + Nova VLAN and Ubuntu HA + Neutron VLAN . Job naming schema has also been changed, so now it includes actual testgroup. Current links for master branch CI jobs are [1] and [2], all other jobs

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db] PyMySQL review

2015-01-29 Thread Brant Knudson
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Roman Podoliaka rpodoly...@mirantis.com wrote: Mike, I can't agree more: as far as we are concerned, every service is yet another WSGI app. And it should be left up to operator, how to deploy it. So 'green thread awareness' (i.e. patching of the world)

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues

2015-01-29 Thread Boris Bobrov
On Thursday 29 January 2015 22:06:25 Morgan Fainberg wrote: I’d like to propose we stop setting the expectation that a downwards migration is a “good idea” or even something we should really support. Offering upwards-only migrations would also simplify the migrations in general. This downward

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Bayer
Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: Are downward migrations really a good idea for us to support? Is this downward migration path a sane expectation? In the real world, would any one really trust the data after migrating downwards? It’s a good idea for a migration script to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Distribution of keys for environments

2015-01-29 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
Evgeniy, I am not suggesting to go to Nailgun DB directly. There obviously should be some layer between a serializier and DB. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Evgeniy L e...@mirantis.com wrote: Vladimir, 1) Nailgun DB Just a small note, we should not provide access to the database, this

Re: [openstack-dev] [barbican] python-barbicanclient 3.0.2 released

2015-01-29 Thread Douglas Mendizabal
On Jan 29, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015, at 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: So, honestly, yes. For a library to release safely it must: * have stable-compat jobs

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] high dhcp lease times in neutron deployments considered harmful (or not???)

2015-01-29 Thread Brian Haley
On 01/29/2015 03:55 AM, Kevin Benton wrote: Why would users want to change an active port's IP address anyway? Re-addressing. It's not common, but the entire reason I brought this up is because a user was moving an instance to another subnet on the same network and stranded one of their

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread Kevin Benton
Oh, I understood it a little differently. I took parsing of error messages here is not the way we’d like to solve this problem as meaning that parsing them in their current ad-hoc, project-specific format is not the way we want to solve this (e.g. the way tempest does it). But if we had a

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] Finding people to work on the EC2 API in Nova

2015-01-29 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Michael, Seems like Wataru from CERN is working on testing EC2. He is adding Rally scenarios related to EC2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147550/ So at least EC2 will have good functional/perf test coverage. Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 3:11 AM, matt

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes

2015-01-29 Thread Kenichi Oomichi
-Original Message- From: Roman Podoliaka [mailto:rpodoly...@mirantis.com] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:12 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [api][nova] Openstack HTTP error codes Hi Anne, I think Eugeniya refers

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] Finding people to work on the EC2 API in Nova

2015-01-29 Thread Michael Still
There is an ec2 bug tag in launchpad. I would link to it except I am writing this offline. I will fix that later today. However I think what we've shown is that moving this code out of nova is the future. I would like to see someone come up with a plan to transition users to the stackforge

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