Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron-Distributed Virtual Router Face-to-Face Discussion at Palo Alto, CA - update

2014-01-24 Thread Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville)
Hi Folks, I have postponed this meeting to the week of February 10th on Thursday Feb 13th, so that there is enough time for people to plan to attend this meeting. Meeting details will be discussed in the neutron meeting and will send out the details. Thanks Swami From: Vasudevan, Swaminathan

[openstack-dev] Neutron-Distributed Virtual Router Face-to-Face Discussion at Palo Alto, CA

2014-01-23 Thread Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville)
Hi Folks, I would like to invite you all for a Face-to-Face Meeting next week at Palto Alto-CA to go over our DVR proposal for Neutron. The current plan is to have the meeting next week on Thursday, January 30th. We will be also having a virtual room and conference bridge for remote people to

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-23 Thread Gary Duan
Regarding using 'provider' in L3 router, for the BP 'L3 service integration with service framework', I've submitted some code for review, which is using 'provider' in a same notion as other advanced services. I am not sure if it can be reused to describe 'centralized' and 'distributed' behavior.

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-23 Thread Bob Melander (bmelande)
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Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-11 Thread Salvatore Orlando
I generally tend to agree that once the distributed router is available, nobody would probably want to use a centralized one. Nevertheless, I think it is correct that, at least for the moment, some advanced services would only work with a centralized router. There might also be unforeseen

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-11 Thread Ian Wells
Are these NSX routers *functionally* different? What we're talking about here is a router which, whether it's distributed or not, behaves *exactly the same*. So as I say, maybe it's an SLA thing, but 'distributed' isn't really user meaningful if the user can't actually prove he's received a

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-10 Thread Robin Wang
NSX makes firewall distributed also. So besides VPN, before neutron implements FW also in a distributed fashion, it might be another reason that people need existing router. Discussion about advanced services and dvr is recorded here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Distributed-Virtual-Router

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-10 Thread Nachi Ueno
I'm +1 for 'provider'. 2013/12/9 Akihiro Motoki mot...@da.jp.nec.com: Neutron defines provider attribute and it is/will be used in advanced services (LB, FW, VPN). Doesn't it fit for a distributed router case? If we can cover all services with one concept, it would be nice. According to

[openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-10 Thread Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville)
Hi Nachi, Yes you are right, NSX deals with (local or distributed) routers and Service Routers. Thanks Swami Hi Yong NSX have two kind of router. Edge and distributed router. Edge node will work as some VPN services and advanced service nodes. Actually, VPNaaS OSS impl is running in

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-10 Thread Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville)
Hi Nachi/Akihiro motoki, I am not clear. Today the L3 Service Plugin does not support the service_type attribute to define the provider option. Are we suggesting that we need to include the service_type for the L3 Service Plugin and then we can make use of the service_type attribute to

[openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-09 Thread Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville)
Hi Folks, We are in the process of defining the API for the Neutron Distributed Virtual Router, and we have a question. Just wanted to get the feedback from the community before we implement and post for review. We are planning to use the distributed flag for the routers that are supposed to

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-09 Thread Mike Wilson
I guess the question that immediately comes to mind is, is there anyone that doesn't want a distributed router? I guess there could be someone out there that hates the idea of traffic flowing in a balanced fashion, but can't they just run a single router then? Does there really need to be some

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-09 Thread Ian Wells
I would imagine that, from the Neutron perspective, you get a single router whether or not it's distributed. I think that if a router is distributed - regardless of whether it's tenant-tenant or tenant-outside - it certainly *could* have some sort of SLA flag, but I don't think a simple

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-09 Thread Yongsheng Gong
If distributed router is good enough, why do we still need non-distributed router? On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk wrote: I would imagine that, from the Neutron perspective, you get a single router whether or not it's distributed. I think that if a router is

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-09 Thread Nachi Ueno
Hi Yong NSX have two kind of router. Edge and distributed router. Edge node will work as some VPN services and advanced service nodes. Actually, VPNaaS OSS impl is running in l3-agent. so IMO, we need l3-agent also for basis of some edge services. 2013/12/9 Yongsheng Gong

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron Distributed Virtual Router

2013-12-09 Thread Akihiro Motoki
Neutron defines provider attribute and it is/will be used in advanced services (LB, FW, VPN). Doesn't it fit for a distributed router case? If we can cover all services with one concept, it would be nice. According to this thread, we assumes at least two types edge and distributed. Though edge

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-24 Thread Ahn Jaesuk
Roseville) [mailto:swaminathan.vasude...@hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:50 PM To: cloudbengo; Artem Dmytrenko; yong sheng gong (gong...@unitedstack.com); OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion Hi Folks

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-24 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion Hi Folks, Thanks for your interests in the DVR feature. We should get together to start discussing the details in the DVR. Please let me know who else is interested, probably the time slot and we can start nailing down

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-23 Thread Yapeng Wu
); OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion Hi Folks, Thanks for your interests in the DVR feature. We should get together to start discussing the details in the DVR. Please let me know who else is interested, probably the time

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-22 Thread Robin Wang
Hi Artem, Very happy to see more stackers working on this feature. : ) Note that the images in your document are badly corrupted - maybe my questions could already be answered by your diagrams. I met the same issue at first. Downloading the doc and open it locally may help. It works for me.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-22 Thread Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville)
) Subject: Re: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion Hi Artem, Very happy to see more stackers working on this feature. : ) Note that the images in your document are badly corrupted - maybe my questions could already be answered by your diagrams. I met the same issue

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-22 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
Swami From: Robin Wang [mailto:cloudbe...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:45 AM To: Artem Dmytrenko; yong sheng gong (gong...@unitedstack.com); OpenStack Development Mailing List; Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville) Subject: Re: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-22 Thread Ravi Chunduru
Development Mailing List; Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville) Subject: Re: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion Hi Artem, Very happy to see more stackers working on this feature. : ) Note that the images in your document are badly corrupted - maybe my

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion

2013-10-22 Thread Carl Baldwin
...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:45 AM To: Artem Dmytrenko; yong sheng gong (gong...@unitedstack.com); OpenStack Development Mailing List; Vasudevan, Swaminathan (PNB Roseville) Subject: Re: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Distributed Virtual Router Discussion Hi Artem