Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-18 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/15/2014 06:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote:
> A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be
> determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack,
> looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding
> questions from anyone interested.
> 
> For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour.
> 
> Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
> from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan
> Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there
> will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube
> video that's publicly accessible once we're done.
> 
> We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the
> content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will
> be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage
> that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that
> pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code
> examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the
> live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help
> people follow along at home).
> 
> Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other
> deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a
> community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as
> OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow
> slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that.
> As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a
> ton in the process.
> 
> Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in
> the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming.
> 
>   -Sean

Links for the event are now up in the wiki:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BootstrappingHour#Next_Episode -
including the youtube stream url and the etherpad.

Look forward to seeing folks tomorrow.

-Sean

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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-16 Thread Kurt Taylor
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober
 wrote:
> +1000
> This is *great*.  Not only for newbies, but refreshers, learning different 
> approaches, putting faces to the signatures, etc.  And Mock best practices is 
> a brilliant starting place for developers.

Yes!

> I'd like to vote for a few others:
> - Development environment (different ones: PyCharms, Eclipse, IDE for Docs, 
> etc)
> - Tracking down a bug: log searching, back tracing, etc.
> - Fixing a bug:  From assigning in Launchpad through clone, fix, git review, 
> etc.
> - Writing an integrated test: setup, data recording/collection/clean tear 
> down.

 - Third-party CI testing and consuming Infrastructure services

> Sorry to have such a big wish list, but for people who learn experientially, 
> this will be immensely useful.
>
> --Rocky
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:56 PM
> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
> Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 
> 19th - 3pm EST

>
> Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other
> deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a
> community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as
> OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow
> slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that.
> As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a
> ton in the process.
>
> Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in
> the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming.
>
> -Sean
>
> --
> Sean Dague
> http://dague.net

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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-16 Thread André Aranha
This is a great idea, and will be hugely useful for new people in
Openstack, like me.

Thank you!

On 16 September 2014 03:31, Ricardo Carrillo Cruz <
ricardo.carrillo.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is awesome, thanks for this guys!
>
> Regards
>
> 2014-09-16 7:09 GMT+02:00 Angelo Matarazzo :
>
>> You are great!!!
>> As newbie I tell you: thank you a lot
>> Angelo
>> Il giorno 16/set/2014 00:58, "Sean Dague"  ha scritto:
>>
>> A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be
>>> determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack,
>>> looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding
>>> questions from anyone interested.
>>>
>>> For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping
>>> Hour.
>>>
>>> Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
>>> from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan
>>> Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there
>>> will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube
>>> video that's publicly accessible once we're done.
>>>
>>> We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the
>>> content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will
>>> be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage
>>> that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that
>>> pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code
>>> examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the
>>> live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help
>>> people follow along at home).
>>>
>>> Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other
>>> deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a
>>> community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as
>>> OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow
>>> slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that.
>>> As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a
>>> ton in the process.
>>>
>>> Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in
>>> the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming.
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sean Dague
>>> http://dague.net
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Ricardo Carrillo Cruz
This is awesome, thanks for this guys!

Regards

2014-09-16 7:09 GMT+02:00 Angelo Matarazzo :

> You are great!!!
> As newbie I tell you: thank you a lot
> Angelo
> Il giorno 16/set/2014 00:58, "Sean Dague"  ha scritto:
>
> A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be
>> determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack,
>> looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding
>> questions from anyone interested.
>>
>> For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour.
>>
>> Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
>> from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan
>> Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there
>> will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube
>> video that's publicly accessible once we're done.
>>
>> We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the
>> content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will
>> be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage
>> that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that
>> pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code
>> examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the
>> live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help
>> people follow along at home).
>>
>> Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other
>> deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a
>> community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as
>> OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow
>> slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that.
>> As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a
>> ton in the process.
>>
>> Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in
>> the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> --
>> Sean Dague
>> http://dague.net
>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Angelo Matarazzo
You are great!!!
As newbie I tell you: thank you a lot
Angelo
Il giorno 16/set/2014 00:58, "Sean Dague"  ha scritto:

> A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be
> determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack,
> looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding
> questions from anyone interested.
>
> For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour.
>
> Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
> from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan
> Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there
> will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube
> video that's publicly accessible once we're done.
>
> We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the
> content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will
> be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage
> that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that
> pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code
> examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the
> live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help
> people follow along at home).
>
> Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other
> deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a
> community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as
> OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow
> slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that.
> As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a
> ton in the process.
>
> Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in
> the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming.
>
> -Sean
>
> --
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> http://dague.net
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 09/15/2014 03:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote:
> A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be
> determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack,
> looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding
> questions from anyone interested.
> 
> For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour.

More than awesomely fantastic job! Let me know all the details asap so I
can help with the promotion.

/stef

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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Jay Pipes

On 09/15/2014 08:04 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote:

I'd like to vote for a few others:
- Development environment (different ones: PyCharms, Eclipse, IDE for Docs, etc)
- Tracking down a bug: log searching, back tracing, etc.
- Fixing a bug:  From assigning in Launchpad through clone, fix, git review, 
etc.
- Writing an integrated test: setup, data recording/collection/clean tear down.


All great suggestions (though for true deep dives, I think we'd need to 
split some of the above items into smaller topics) :) We planned to have 
an ongoing etherpad where folks could both get links to old recordings 
as well as suggest topics they'd like to see covered.



Sorry to have such a big wish list, but for people who learn experientially, 
this will be immensely useful.


Yeah, we're excited to see how this goes :)

-jay


--Rocky

-Original Message-
From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:56 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th 
- 3pm EST

A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be
determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack,
looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding
questions from anyone interested.

For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour.

Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan
Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there
will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube
video that's publicly accessible once we're done.

We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the
content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will
be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage
that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that
pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code
examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the
live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help
people follow along at home).

Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other
deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a
community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as
OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow
slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that.
As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a
ton in the process.

Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in
the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming.

-Sean




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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:04:53 AM Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote:
> +1000
> This is *great*.  Not only for newbies, but refreshers, learning different
> approaches, putting faces to the signatures, etc.  And Mock best practices
> is a brilliant starting place for developers.
> 
> I'd like to vote for a few others:
> - Development environment (different ones: PyCharms, Eclipse, IDE for Docs,
> etc) - Tracking down a bug: log searching, back tracing, etc.
> - Fixing a bug:  From assigning in Launchpad through clone, fix, git review,
> etc. - Writing an integrated test: setup, data recording/collection/clean
> tear down.

Really looking forward to this series, thanks to everyone who has a hand in 
putting them together.

In addition to the cross-project meta-topics mentioned above, I'd also love to 
see a technical overview for each of the major projects of OpenStack (in 
separate talks).  They would need to be refreshed periodically as architecture 
evolves, but that's ok.

Existing docs and presentations spend time talking about user-visible 
features, but very few talk about the implementation and internals.
It took me an embarrassingly long time and a read of devstack to even work out 
which code ran on the hosts vs on controller nodes (for example) ;)

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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Jay Pipes

On 09/15/2014 11:05 PM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:

Sean Dague  writes:


Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan


ah too bad this is when the week-end start in Europe (and usually mean
family time for me) but no complaining I guess there is no hours that
can be found to please everyone.


But it will all be recorded, so you can enjoy my face-made-for-radio any 
time you want. :P


Best,
jay


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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Sean Dague  writes:

> Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
> from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan

ah too bad this is when the week-end start in Europe (and usually mean
family time for me) but no complaining I guess there is no hours that
can be found to please everyone.

Chmouel

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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Rochelle.RochelleGrober
+1000
This is *great*.  Not only for newbies, but refreshers, learning different 
approaches, putting faces to the signatures, etc.  And Mock best practices is a 
brilliant starting place for developers.

I'd like to vote for a few others:
- Development environment (different ones: PyCharms, Eclipse, IDE for Docs, etc)
- Tracking down a bug: log searching, back tracing, etc.
- Fixing a bug:  From assigning in Launchpad through clone, fix, git review, 
etc.
- Writing an integrated test: setup, data recording/collection/clean tear down.

Sorry to have such a big wish list, but for people who learn experientially, 
this will be immensely useful.

--Rocky

-Original Message-
From: Sean Dague [mailto:s...@dague.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 3:56 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th 
- 3pm EST

A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be
determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack,
looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding
questions from anyone interested.

For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour.

Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan
Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there
will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube
video that's publicly accessible once we're done.

We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the
content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will
be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage
that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that
pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code
examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the
live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help
people follow along at home).

Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other
deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a
community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as
OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow
slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that.
As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a
ton in the process.

Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in
the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming.

-Sean

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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Richard Jones
This is a great idea, thanks!

On 16 September 2014 08:56, Sean Dague  wrote:

> A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be
> determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack,
> looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding
> questions from anyone interested.
>
> For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour.
>
> Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
> from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan
> Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there
> will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube
> video that's publicly accessible once we're done.
>
> We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the
> content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will
> be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage
> that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that
> pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code
> examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the
> live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help
> people follow along at home).
>
> Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other
> deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a
> community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as
> OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow
> slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that.
> As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a
> ton in the process.
>
> Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in
> the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming.
>
> -Sean
>
> --
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> http://dague.net
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack bootstrapping hour - Friday Sept 19th - 3pm EST

2014-09-15 Thread Michael Still
Sean / Dan / Jay, I just wanted to say that I think this is awesome
and I appreciate the effort you're putting into the community.

Michael

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Sean Dague  wrote:
> A few of us have decided to pull together a regular (cadence to be
> determined) video series taking on deep dives inside of OpenStack,
> looking at code, explaining why things work that way, and fielding
> questions from anyone interested.
>
> For lack of a better title, I've declared it OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour.
>
> Episode 0 - Mock best practices will kick off this Friday, Sept 19th,
> from 3pm - 4pm EST. Our experts for this will be Jay Pipes and Dan
> Smith. It will be done as a Google Hangout on Air, which means there
> will be a live youtube stream while it's on, and a recorded youtube
> video that's publicly accessible once we're done.
>
> We'll be using an etherpad during the broadcast to provide links to the
> content people are looking at, as well as capture questions. That will
> be our backchannel, and audience participation forum, with the advantage
> that it creates a nice concise document at the end of the broadcast that
> pairs well with the video. (Also: the tech test showed that while code
> examples are perfectly viewable during in the final video, during the
> live stream they are a little hard to read, etherpad links will help
> people follow along at home).
>
> Assuming this turns out to be useful, we're thinking about lots of other
> deep dives. The intent is that these are indepth dives. We as a
> community have learned so many things over the last 4 years, but as
> OpenStack has gotten so large, being familiar with more than a narrow
> slice is hard. This is hopefully a part of the solution to address that.
> As I've told others, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to learning a
> ton in the process.
>
> Final links for the hangout + etherpad will be posted a little later in
> the week. Mostly wanted to make people aware it was coming.
>
> -Sean
>
> --
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