Re: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly

2003-02-08 Thread Erik Beeson
Why he thinks it would be bad to depend on Jelly? So far, there hasn't been a good case as to how it could benefit xwork/webwork, and even if it did add a little, we try to keep dependencies to a minimum. A bunch of dependencies is too jakarta-ish, as someone put it. --Erik On Sat, 8 Feb 2003,

Re: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly

2003-02-08 Thread Kelvin Tan
My initial inkling was to have Jexl as a possible replacement to the current EL, but looking deeper into OGNL convinces me that it doesn't match up in terms of functionality. Something interesting, though, is Jelly's support for multiple expression languages... quote Jelly has native support for

Re: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly

2003-02-08 Thread Joseph Ottinger
Because every dependency is just that: a dependency. Extra complexity is bad. Installing a package sounds simple, and IMO should be simple; if installing webwork is actually installing webwork, xwork, commons-logging, ognl, then configuring, then writing actions, then debugging there's a

FW: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly

2003-02-08 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes
Thoughts from the master (FYI). I don't really have an opinion either way on Jelly, other than thinking it is very cool and useful. There's no reason it couldn't be _another_ view option if people wanted it that way. -- Forwarded Message From: James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 8 Feb

FW: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly

2003-02-08 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes
Another view option with our existing EL then :) -- Forwarded Message From: James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 15:30:30 - To: Mike Cannon-Brookes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly FWIW, you could drop in OGNL (or indeed any expression language)

RE: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly

2003-02-08 Thread Jason Carreira
I have to disagree with Hani here. I think Jelly looks cool. I agree that the Jakarta projects tend to be overly interconnected, but this doesn't seem too bad. -Original Message- From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:06 PM To:

Re: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly

2003-02-08 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Well, if someone wants to write a view layer for Jelly, I'll add it in. Jelly would, of course, be in lib/optional, not lib/core. -Pat - Original Message - From: Jason Carreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003

Re: [OS-webwork] XWork ComponentManager - usage of initializeComponent

2003-02-08 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Cameron, The components stuff is very cool, but it still has a lot of work to be done as well. As for why the parameter is called component, that's because both components and objects go through the initialization process. That means that you Action could implement FooAware, which gives Action a

Re: [OS-webwork] [WW2] new ServletRedirectResult feature

2003-02-08 Thread Hani Suleiman
Yep, very very useful On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 01:15 AM, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote: I think this is the best feature I've seen in WW2 - I would use it instantly in about 50 places :) -mike On 9/2/03 4:56 PM, Patrick Lightbody ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: Just put in a dinky