Thoughts from the master (FYI). I don't really have an opinion either way on Jelly, other than thinking it is very cool and useful. There's no reason it couldn't be _another_ view option if people wanted it that way.
------ Forwarded Message From: "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 15:38:43 -0000 To: "Mike Cannon-Brookes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly From: "Mike Cannon-Brookes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Some not so positive jelly reviews :) Well I guess no software can please everyone. > From: Hani Suleiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 09:52:17 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Commons Jelly > > I have issues with jelly and the whole mentality behind it. It's a > sledgehammer solution to a problem nobody is having. I have yet to come > across a real world situation where someone is developing a webapp in > java and thinking 'now, if only I could use a python EL in my pages, > then everything would be perfect!'. Then don't use a python EL - duh. Its very common for folks to want to use Jexl / OGNL as well as XPath. There's 3 ELs already. The use of JXPath on beans is quite common - that makes 4. Noones forcing any of these on you. > It seems too much like technology > for technology's sake. Simple is beautiful. Jelly is very simple. It takes XML and turns it into a Script of Tags and Expressions which has variable scopes (JellyContext). Thats about it. Kinda like Velocity but using pluggable expression langauges and Tags (as the macro metaphor) > Complicated might be cooler > and make other developers feel more clever, but it has little to no > real world usage. Like Maven, Latka, Anteater, JellyUnit, Werkflow, JellySwing. I guess they're not real world enough? > Not to mention the horribly incestuous relationship between the 10 jars > or so that make up that particular family of jakarta whelps... Current dependency of the Jelly core is 5 jakarta commons jars (all of which are small and could be replaced with a single jakarta commons core jar) + dom4j + JAXP. James ------- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com _______________________________________________ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
