RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-20 Thread Matthew Zito
-3551 Phone: 212-358-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques Kilchoer Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: MySQL in the future? I'm glad I'm

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-20 Thread Richard Ji
-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques Kilchoer Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: MySQL in the future? I'm glad I'm not a lawyer. What

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-20 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Thank you for the research. When they say Distribution for MySQL would mean more than one copy installed in a production environment, by production environment, they must mean a business. For example I can use MySQL on my home computer to keep track of my record collection, and I can also

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-20 Thread Goulet, Dick
Jacques, Based on what Matt sent, I'd say your in violation of their license. You've distributed it internally. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thank you

Re: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread Tim Bunce
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 09:10:39AM -0800, M Rafiq wrote: Tim, May be a an off-topic question to you or anybody who can answer. What is the best source / books to learn mysql quickest possible without too much cost to an individual? The online docs are good:

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread Goulet, Dick
I think we've all seen and are once again seeing a similar maneuver. Can you get MySql from mysql.org, sure but it's going to be left way in the dirt by MySql AB until their version is the only acceptable one out there. Course by then it probably will acquire a different name. and of course a

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread Goulet, Dick
: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread Stephen Lee
I say it's time to resurrect ndbm! We KNOW that one is free ... and it's already there in your OS utilities (if you are using the right OS). -Original Message- I think we've all seen and are once again seeing a similar maneuver. Can you get MySql from mysql.org, sure but it's

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread Weaver, Walt
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:13 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: MySQL in the future? I think we've all seen and are once again seeing a similar maneuver. Can you get MySql from mysql.org, sure but it's going to be left way in the dirt by MySql AB until

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread Gogala, Mladen
How can a honest DBA become a lawyer? It seems to me that technology has become dependent on lawyers. If AIX is stopped, it will be a disaster of biblical proportions which will seriously disrupt business. I believe that the future lies in litigation, not technology. As for MySQL, it has never

Re: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread M Rafiq
Tim, Thanks Regards Rafiq Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:24:39 -0800 On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 09:10:39AM -0800, M Rafiq wrote: Tim, May be a an off-topic question to you or anybody who can answer. What is the best source / books to learn mysql quickest possible without too much cost to an

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread Matthew Zito
Of Goulet, Dick Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: MySQL in the future? Richard, Now this is interesting. When you enter www.mysql.org into your browser you get forwarded onto www.mysql.com. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread Weaver, Walt
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: MySQL in the future? Tim, Thanks Regards Rafiq Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:24:39 -0800 On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 09:10:39AM -0800, M Rafiq wrote: Tim, May be a an off-topic question to you or anybody who can answer

Re: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-19 Thread Glenn Stauffer
Goulet, Dick wrote: I think we've all seen and are once again seeing a similar maneuver. Can you get MySql from mysql.org, sure but it's going to be left way in the dirt by MySql AB until their version is the only acceptable one out there. Course by then it probably will acquire a different

Re: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Tim Bunce
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:30:17PM -0800, Gogala, Mladen wrote: Nope, it will not. Companies are still suspicious toward open source and if they cannot buy it, they will not use it. The most often quoted reason is support. http://www.mysql.com/support/index.html I have found their support

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Goulet, Dick
System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Richard Ji
, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL could

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Goulet, Dick
Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Richard Ji
: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL could be the biggest challenger to Oracle, and even Microsoft and IBM

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Goulet, Dick
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who hold most

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Bob Metelsky
As a suggestion I would simply download, read the doc and install. I had mysql installed and database built in about an hour. (not to oversimplify it) but the docs are very good and will have you running in no time. Your coming from an oracle background so architecturally/(instinctually), it

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Richard Ji
2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL could

Re: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Jan Pruner
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RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Richard Ji
of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL could be the biggest challenger

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Goulet, Dick
] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Richard Ji
: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Nelson, Allan
: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL could be the biggest challenger to Oracle, and even Microsoft

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Nelson, Allan
Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Anderson, Brian
] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: MySQL in the future? It seems (almost) clear to me from the text at http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html This is our licensing policy in brief: Our software is 100% GPL, and if yours

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Pardee, Roy E
I think the intro para quoted below is an oversimplification of the license policy--and one that (understandably) favors MySQL AB. My reading of that page is that it's the *distribution* of the MySQL source code (modified or not) or binaries that requires you to have a commercial license. I take

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Richard Ji
That's how I understand it as well. -Original Message- From: Nelson, Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 6/18/2003 6:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Cc: Subject:RE: MySQL in the future? The GPL does require any changes to the code covered

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Matthew Zito
: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: MySQL in the future? It seems (almost) clear to me from the text at http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html This is our licensing policy in brief: Our software is 100% GPL, and if yours is also 100% GPL

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-18 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
I'm glad I'm not a lawyer. What does distribute internally mean? I work for company X and write an application to use a MySQL database. I take the zip file I downloaded from MySQL and install it to another server, and now two sets of people are using the database on different machines with the

MySQL in the future?

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Rogers
WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL could be the biggest challenger to Oracle, and even Microsoft and IBM in the database market. MySQL

RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: MySQL in the future? WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS

RE: MySQL in the future? (OT)

2003-06-17 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
In that article, unless I missed it, they didn't mention the deal between SAP and MySQL. SAP, MySQL Sign Open-Source Database Deal (By MARC L. SONGINI, JUNE 02, 2003, Computerworld) SAP AG last week said it plans to hand off lead development of its SAP DB database software to MySQL AB and work