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The silliest questions I remember seeing in an OCP exam
were the questions in the Oracle8 Networking exam which asked about the sequence
of dialog boxes in the Network Configuration
Assistant!
I took the 8i OCP upgrade exam this weekend. I was amazed at one
question. It
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There is scientific research that shows that moderate consumption of alcohol
while learning and while testing improves scores. NOW you have a good
excuse!
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> In high school, I took the SAT exams and got a great score,
> enough to be
> satisfied with. My guidance
In high school, I took the SAT exams and got a great score, enough to be
satisfied with. My guidance counselor insisted I gild the lily and take the
exams again. I showed up that morning with no sleep, a throbbing hangover,
and eyes looking like fried eggs pasted to my head...
...scored 60 point
Perhaps it is a question which doesn't get scored (hopefully). I'm not sure
if all the tests are like this but I took the 9i upgrade exam last week. It
had 60 questions but only scores on 53 of them (it tosses out 7).
Unfortunately you don't know which questions will be scored or not.
--Jeff
I took the 8i OCP upgrade exam this weekend. I was amazed at one question. It was asking about the OUI and installing third party software. Now I've been an Oracle DBA for many years, and I would have thought Oracle would be more concerned about the Oracle database and the way it works rather the
An invaluable aid for test taking is -- I learned this when I took Organic
Chemistry -- bourbon in water with ice in your favorite convenience drink
cup. Everyone at the test site is sure you have a soft drink.
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> Experience with various flavors of storage technolo
Unless ordering superannuated storage from eBay, disks are sized at either
36Gb, 73Gb, or larger. Dedicating these devices to online redo log files of
size 100Mb, 500Mb, or 1Gb might be tough to get past the CFO.
The CIO/CTO might well also ask why some form of RAID-1 or RAID-5 redundancy
is not
Experience with various flavors of storage technology plus a decade of DBA
experience can't possibly prepare me for what I haven't read (i.e. "Oracle's
recommendations"). In a multiple-choice test format, unlike real life, I
can't possibly argue with what Oracle has recommended...
No wonder I fai
Wednesday, July 30, 2003, 1:19:31 PM, you wrote:
Q>> If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how many disks does
SK> Oracle recommend
SK>to keep the redo log files?
My first thought was 8, and I think you might be able to
make a case for 8. However, you should have at least 4,
becau
Except that:
1) five disks was not one of the possible answers, and
2) we don't know that the database is in archivelog mode.
For the 9i OCP examination the correct answer is answer number 4 (4 disks). I'm
willing to bet on it!
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> From: Ron Yount [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT
Our Prod SAP system has 4 RAID1's dedicated to redo of 500m each
on an Clariion CX600 SAN.
Several groups with 2 members each. That's 600 gig
of physical disk dedicated to redo, and nothing else.
Jared
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 04:59, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
> We use a SAN.
>
> Where does that
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didn't you say it was a question/answer out of the book?
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite
Adam Wells age 11
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From: Senthil
Hi
This ques from a model examnothing to worry about disclosure and
all!!!
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Boivin, Patrice J
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I am wondering... where do these questions come from?
There is a disclosure agreement a
I am wondering... where do these questions come from?
There is a disclosure agreement at the beginning of each Oracle exam...
Patrice.
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We use a SAN.
Where does that leave me?
: )
Patrice.
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I'm constantly amazed (and relieved!) that there's disagreement on the
most fundamental principles.
First, I found myself nodding at
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> From: Senthil Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> What is the correct answer for this?
>
> Q> If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how
> many disks does
> Oracle rec
Well Who knows what the author of the question intended, but in the
example of 2 (duplexed) redo log groups with archiving, they speak of five
disks. One of EACH log member (not shared with log members of another
group) and one for the archive log destination.
That being said, I believe the a
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> From: Senthil Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> What is the correct answer for this?
>
> Q> If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how
> many disks does
> Oracle recommend
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> From: Senthil Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> What is the correct answer for this?
>
> Q> If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how
> many disks does
> Oracle recommend
>to keep the redo log files?
>
> 1. 8
> 2. 2
> 3. 1
> 4. 4
The question s
Hi!
> First, I found myself nodding at Roy's first post. On some databases,
> I have three log groups, with two members each. Each set of members
> has its own disk. I'll concede the argument that the instance goes
> down right away if one of the drives fails, but I _still_ have a full
> set of
I'm constantly amazed (and relieved!) that there's disagreement on the
most fundamental principles.
First, I found myself nodding at Roy's first post. On some databases,
I have three log groups, with two members each. Each set of members
has its own disk. I'll concede the argument that the inst
m that point in
time.
please correct me if Im wrong. Im half responding to make sure I understand
it correctly.
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> From: "Pardee, Roy E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/30 Wed PM 03:14:30 EDT
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t me if Im wrong. Im half responding to make sure I understand it
correctly.
>
> From: "Pardee, Roy E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/30 Wed PM 03:14:30 EDT
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Well, in archivelog mode LogWriter may use one group and Archiver may
use the other group, so I'd agree with Kirti.
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Mladen Gogala
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:59 PM
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There are two rea
Roy,
I think you've got this backwards. To preserve the groups you need to
preserve the members and thus you would multiplex the members.
If you multiplex the 4 members of the 2 groups over 4 disks you will
minimize the risk of failure. If you lose one disk you still have three
members left i
yeah that might be the right answer, but you would get it wrong on the OCP... assuming
the books are right.
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> From: Peter Gram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/30 Wed PM 04:09:28 EDT
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> Subject:
That would be the most optimal. I believe that the original question was about
OFA. And I also believe that the "middle of the road" configuration would have
4 disks.
On 2003.07.30 16:09, Peter Gram wrote:
Hi
I don't want to create a fight, but in a configuration with 2 groups and 4
members you
Hi
I don't want to create a fight, but in a configuration with 2 groups and
4 members you need 8 disks :
1 disk for every member.
When the db is writing to one group the archiver will be reading from
the other group, by the
why since there are multibe members in the group the db (archiver) wil
In that case you dont need more then 1 member per group . :)
-ak
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> I thought you need to preserve the groups, not (necessarily) the members.
>
> If you have each
half responding to make sure I understand it
correctly.
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> From: "Pardee, Roy E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/30 Wed PM 03:14:30 EDT
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> I t
Right, You Are!! :)
That's how I arrived at my answer 1. - 8 disks ;)
- Kirti
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> Nah, the answer is 42. :-)
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> I will guess -- 1
I would say 4.
Ramon E. Estevez
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Senthil Kumar
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:20 PM
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Hi all,
What is the correct answer for this?
Q> If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how many
I thought you need to preserve the groups, not (necessarily) the members.
If you have each group on its own disk then if one disk goes, you've got a complete
set of logs on the other. Or am I not thinking about this correctly?
Cheers,
-Roy
Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst/DBA
SWFPAC Lockheed Mar
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"depends"
... that answer usually works
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite
Adam Wells age 11
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From: Kirtikumar Deshpan
There are two reasons:
1) Redo log groups are never used simultaneously, so they can reside on
the same disk. Log members should not be on the same disks for increased
survivability. That gives us 2 groups with 4 members, each two members
sharing the same device - 4 disks alltogether.
2) I
Nah, the answer is 42. :-)
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I will guess -- 1.
- Kirti
--- Senthil Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What is the correct answer for this?
>
> Q> If you have 2 redo log
i didnt ask the question. I was responding. what is up with the attitude?
>
> From: Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/30 Wed PM 02:04:57 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Answe is 4 disks . to keep each member on different disks .
-ak
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> Hi all,
>
> What is the correct answer for this?
>
> Q> If you have 2 redo log groups with
So, what do you need us for?
On 2003.07.30 13:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
according to the 8i osborne ocp book, the answer is 2.
>
> From: "Senthil Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/30 Wed PM 01:19:31 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: 9i-OCP
according to the 8i osborne ocp book, the answer is 2.
>
> From: "Senthil Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/07/30 Wed PM 01:19:31 EDT
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> Subject: 9i-OCP Question
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> Hi all,
>
> What is the correct answer for this?
>
> Q> If y
Why? What is the logic?
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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> The answer is 4. Of course, no one in the right mind would have
> 2 groups with 4 members each.
>
> On 2003.07.30 13:19
I will guess -- 1.
- Kirti
--- Senthil Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What is the correct answer for this?
>
> Q> If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how many disks does
> Oracle recommend
>to keep the redo log files?
>
> 1. 8
> 2. 2
> 3. 1
> 4. 4
>
> Wh
The answer is 4. Of course, no one in the right mind would have
2 groups with 4 members each.
On 2003.07.30 13:19, Senthil Kumar wrote:
Hi all,
What is the correct answer for this?
Q> If you have 2 redo log groups with 4 members each, how many disks does
Oracle recommend
to keep the redo log f
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