Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-26 Thread Alan Davey
;> >the PCTFREE 99 and PCTUSED 1 attributes ? >> > >> >Hemant >> > >> > >> > >> >At 03:53 PM 24-09-02 -0800, you wrote: >> >>I replied too soon earlier, I think. >> >> >> >>Yes, what you state is correct. >>

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-26 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Yes, I think I need to test it for myself and see what I get. As for the busy table in a production environment [24x7, so there's no time to rebuild the table normally], I've put in a request for 30minutes downtime [I am allowed an occassional 15 to 30 minutes every two months] to rebuild the t

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-26 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
ks in new extents take > >the PCTFREE 99 and PCTUSED 1 attributes ? > > > >Hemant > > > > > > > >At 03:53 PM 24-09-02 -0800, you wrote: > >>I replied too soon earlier, I think. > >> > >>Yes, what you state is cor

Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-26 Thread Hemant K Chitale
t;At 03:53 PM 24-09-02 -0800, you wrote: > >>I replied too soon earlier, I think. > >> > >>Yes, what you state is correct. > >> > >>Jraed > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > &g

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-25 Thread John . Hallas
Hemant wrote >> Therefore, to reduce the contention for the "hot blocks", I decide to have only 1 row in each block. Normally, with a *NEW* table, PCTFRE 99 and PCTUSED 1 would ensure that I have only 1 row per block. But if I have a large number of blocks in a few extents created when PCTFREE w

Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-25 Thread Alan Davey
what you state is correct. >> >>Jraed >> >> >> >> >> >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> 09/24/2002 09:08 AM >> Please respond to ORACLE-L >> >> >> To: Multiple recipients of list O

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-25 Thread Hemant K Chitale
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED > immediate ? > > >Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity to question me :) >I think we agree on extents s

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread Jared . Still
RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ? Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity to question me :) I think we agree on extents sizes not being changed after the event so it is now a discussion on whether changes to a pctfree/pctused are retrospective. I contend tha

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread paquette stephane
John, You are right, I just find out note 1029850.6 on metalink : "A block is relinked to a free list if after DELETE or UPDATE operations, the percentage of the used space falls below PCTUSED." --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity > to que

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread paquette stephane
This was on 8.1.7 on Linux. > > It's in the archives if you care to look for it. > > Jared > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 09/24/2002 09:08 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread Jared . Still
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/2002 09:08 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ? Well I was sure about i

Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread paquette stephane
I'm not sure either as I am rereading a document by Craig Shallamaher where he is saying to change pctused and pctfree in order to reduce data block fragmentation. I have to test that. At my new job, the DBAs are doing massive export/import to reduce fragmentation... (with their dictionnary manag

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread John . Hallas
Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity to question me :) I think we agree on extents sizes not being changed after the event so it is now a discussion on whether changes to a pctfree/pctused are retrospective. I contend that if a table is fully loaded upto its pctfree/pctused limits

Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread Jared Still
Are you sure about that John? On Tuesday 24 September 2002 04:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No, it is not retrospective. > You are setting parameters to be used when the next extent is created. > A better example is when setting next extent size to be different than the > existing extent size

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread John . Hallas
No, it is not retrospective. You are setting parameters to be used when the next extent is created. A better example is when setting next extent size to be different than the existing extent size (dictionary managed tablespaces only). It does not alter all the existing extents it only works on t