Hi,
A late response, but this seems like:
Oracle saying: This is my product and this is how we want to sell, buy or
leave. And they have considered every possibility of taking advantage or
they dictate it the way it suites them.
How about saying back: What ever is your product, we want to buy
Thanks for the information Suhen. Seems like my company purchaser got the wrong
information when he bought the license.
Regards,
Leo
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Leo,
The named user license is
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Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based
licensing?
Thanks.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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the internet,
NOT INTRANET.
Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager
that
negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
(formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I
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Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager
that
negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
(formerly
Our Oracle rep fully understood that our DB is accessed via our intranet, a
large third party network, and the internet. We were only required to
purchase CPU based licensing. There was no additional Web licensing fee.
After reading this, I am concerned they will be back to discuss more fees.
: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager
that
negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
(formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
and
it only shows Named
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Our Oracle rep fully understood that our DB is accessed via our intranet,
a
large third party network, and the internet. We were only required to
purchase CPU based licensing. There was no additional Web licensing
fee
Compuware Corporation
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Computer Services
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Can anyone provide more details on Web
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Maybe it has something to do with whether you post your data to an internet or intranet site. ??
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Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager
that
negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
(formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
and
it only shows Named and Processor
: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager
that
negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
(formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
and
it only shows Named
More likely how close Uncle Larry is to Bill Gates in the World's Richest Man contest.
Jerry Whittle
ACIFICS DBA
NCI Information Systems Inc.
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618-622-4145
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From following this thread on Oracles
, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
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Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager
that
negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
(formerly UPU
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Can anyone provide more details on Web licensing? I asked our manager
that
negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
(formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore
.
Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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Can anyone provide more
Nuclear Plant? Don't say Larry didn't warn you:
The Programs are not intended for use in any nuclear, aviation, mass
transit, medical, or other inherently dangerous applications. It shall be
the licensee's responsibility to take all appropriate fail-safe, backup,
redundancy, and other
Ron,
It is funny you mentioned this, just last week our corporate office asked
us to run a script...provided by Oracle...to gather user/session
information to determine if we have enough licences. The thing that I
found odd, was that they wanted this information from every single database
I suggest you talk to your Oracle rep before getting started.
'Concurrent' licensing is no longer a valid licensing model for Oracle.
They sell by named user or per CPU. Their criteria for making you
use the CPU licensing is rather broad.
Just went through a licensing audit here. Lots o
I agree with Mr. Still,
Our new project is licensed CPU based . The cpu count is important for
the server. So that distributed databases is not preferable anymore for
country wide applications. As Oracle says , this is a new feature of WEB
WORLD. If your applications are client -server
Smith, Ron L. wrote:
We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using
Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient licensing.
We have about 100 instances to monitor.
Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what Concurrent users might mean to
the
you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents
appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license
(extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but
appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database.
--- Stephane Faroult
Thanks for the info!
Ron
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We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using
Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient
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We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients using
Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient
licensing.
We have about 100 instances
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you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents
Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based licensing?
Thanks.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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you need to be careful if you are also using
that's not the terminology they used when talkikng about it with me.
the sales rep specifically said web license which led me to believe
it was another form of pricing.
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Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based
licensing?
Our site just went through this, and Oracle determined that we needed to use
CPU licenses. We actually replaced our 4 cpu DG Aviion with a new Sunfire
3800 with two sparc3 processors. The money saved in Oracle licensing paid
for the new equipment. They simply came in and told us that the
Title: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
I too went through this mess (twice). A CPU license gets you unlimited. If it's on the web, they don't like the idea of using an application server that utilizes one connection with internal login/logout capability/security. Why twice? Second
While we are on the topic of oracle licensing, can someone help to clear up some
doubts on named user licensing that I have?
We have an existing 5-named user license for a small oracle 8i (8.1.5) database we
have, but right now, it seems to be restricting the number of user sessions to 5
While we are on the topic of oracle licensing, can someone help to clear up some
doubts on named user licensing that I have?
We have an existing 5-named user license for a small oracle 8i (8.1.5) database we
have, but right now, it seems to be restricting the number of user sessions to 5
Leo,
The named user license is concurrent per session/connections to the
database.
Although you have 1 userid defined you will not be allowed to have more than
5 users connect to the instance simultaneously.
Regards
$uhen
While we are on the topic of oracle licensing, can someone help to clear
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