Re: rman expired vs obsolete

2004-01-25 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Expired backups are unusable since they were not found accessible during last crosscheck or were set to expired state manually. This means that these backups can't and won't be used for restore operation. Obsolete backups can be deleted since there are enough redundant backups according to

RE: rman backup

2004-01-19 Thread Rich Holland
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: rman backup AK When you have RMAN back up archived logs, IIRC, in a recovery RMAN first restores those

Re: rman restore question

2004-01-09 Thread Joan Hsieh
Ruth, thanks, I am back. I took the redundancy policy to 4 now and deleted today's backupset and try to recover from the yesterday backupset which is a valid status in the rman report. I still got error. Rman still looking for today's backupset sequence. If I do the crosscheck and delete the

Re: rman restore question

2004-01-09 Thread Joan Hsieh
Sorry, I tried set until time, it works. Now I think we can move rman to production since we tested all kinds of restore. Thanks and have nice day! Joan Joan Hsieh wrote: Ruth, thanks, I am back. I took the redundancy policy to 4 now and deleted today's backupset and try to recover from

RE: rman restore question

2004-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Joan - Glad to hear your success. In the meanwhile I replied to your earlier message. Just to clarify, when you used a time-based recovery, setting a time earlier than the most recent backup, RMAN ignored the most recent backup and restored from an earlier backup? Wouldn't that have the

RE: rman restore question

2004-01-09 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Joan - I have not used the redundancy policy, but my understanding is this just involves how many backup copies to retain. It does not relate to recovery as I read the manual. Do you have Robert Freeman's book Oracle9i RMAN Backup Recovery? Are you attempting an incomplete recovery or a

RE: rman restore question

2004-01-05 Thread Ruth Gramolini
If you don't set the redundancey policy to a recovery window of N days, than the record of the backup will be kept indefinitely. You should be able to restore the backups from tape and restore from a previous backup. You may need to do a set until time if there was corruption or another problem.

Re: rman restore question

2004-01-03 Thread Joan Hsieh
Tanel, Yes, rman keep asking the newer backupset which is start *450.rman. I don't know the command change backuupset unavailable command. I will give it a try. I know there is very rare situration that we need restore from an older backupset, but need to prepare it in case we do need it. I

RE: rman restore question

2004-01-02 Thread Stephen.Lee
I have never attempted what you are doing, so I must confess some ignorance. But, looking at your error message, it appears that rman knows what file it needs and is unable to get it. One must assume there is no file named /rmanbackup/ADVDBA_F_20031231:15:03:39_1.450.rman available on the hard

Re: rman restore question

2004-01-02 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! As Stephen pointed out, rman searches for a file named /rmanbackup/ADVDBA_F_20031231:15:03:39_1.450.rman, but can't find it. Is this file a newer backupset which rman is automatically trying to use? If you want to skip this file, you could use change backupset unavailable command for

Re: rman restore question

2003-12-31 Thread Tanel Poder
I was actually talking from database recovery point of view (that you can do point in time recovery prior to current controlfile time if you use using backup controlfile option when recovering. For restoring a de-registered backupset, I see two options (there might be more, more convenient ones):

Re: rman restore question

2003-12-31 Thread Joan Hsieh
Thanks Tanel. I will test it out. Happy new year! Joan Tanel Poder wrote: I was actually talking from database recovery point of view (that you can do point in time recovery prior to current controlfile time if you use using backup controlfile option when recovering. For restoring a

Re: rman restore question

2003-12-31 Thread Joan Hsieh
After I did some testing, it is impossble to restore and recover a deleted obsolete backupset. So I took off the delete obsolete command. Retention policy to redundancy still keep it to 1. I did couple backups and run list backup of database and report obsolete command. Although report obsolet

RE: rman restore question

2003-12-30 Thread Roger Xu
I think you can do CONFIGURE CONTROLFILE AUTOBACKUP ON, which enables RMAN to automatically backup controlfile to a default location. Then you can restore the controlfile before you restore other database files. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 3:34 PM To: Multiple

RE: rman restore question

2003-12-30 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Joan - Which Oracle version? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 3:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Listers, I have a question about rman restore. Right now, I configured RETENTION POLICY TO

RE: rman restore question

2003-12-30 Thread Joan Hsieh
Dennis, 9.2.0.4 Joan Quoting DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joan - Which Oracle version? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 3:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Listers, I

RE: rman restore question

2003-12-30 Thread Joan Hsieh
Well Roger, Suppose I still have the current control file and want to use days old full backupset (obsolete already) to restore and recover the database to the point of time. How it related to recover the autobackup controlfile? I did configure controlfile autobackup on though. Thanks, Joan

Re: rman restore question

2003-12-30 Thread Tanel Poder
You can do point in time recovery using current controlfile as well. You just say recover database until cancal using backup controlfile then, that way Oracle ignores SCN information inside controlfile and trusts only datafile headers. You have to open resetlogs after that. One issue I see with

Re: rman restore question

2003-12-30 Thread Tanel Poder
Note that when you configure controlfile autobackup on, then a backup controlfile will be saved to default location (dbs or database dir under $ORACLE_HOME) after most physical database structure changes such is adding a datafile, taking tablespace offline/online etc. This is the behaviour of

Re: rman restore question

2003-12-30 Thread Joan Hsieh
Tanel, Do you mean if I am using current controlfile to recover database, It doesn't matter the backupset is obsolete or not in the rman catalog repository database, is that sounds right? So, I just have to restore the old backupset from tape to disk and issue recover database command? At

RE: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Title: RMAN - the time has come Raj, It really is a quick learn. The best way is to get some scripts (great examples in the rdbms/demo directory) and try them on a test database. Once you get something running, the rest is simple. If you need some samples, let me know. It's really basic

Re: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: RMAN - the time has come In addition to the Freeman book, I would also suggest the RMAN Pocket Reference from O'Reilly. It predates the RF book and certainly comes handy for learning - I learned from there. HTH. Arup Nanda - Original Message - From: Jamadagni,

RE: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Title: RMAN - the time has come Try Robert Freeman's book. I have only heard good things about it. Ruth -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:35 AMTo: Multiple recipients of

RE: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
We have talked about a 10g version of the book, which I'm sure will happen at some point in time :-) Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/22/2003 2:39 PM Try Robert Freeman's book. I have only heard good things about it. Ruth

RE: RMAN - the time has come

2003-12-22 Thread Jared Still
I would say it is like chess. Learning how the pieces move is easy. Learning to put it altogether and use and manage it is not quite as simple. There are a lot of nuances to RMAN, and I don't pretend to have a handle on it. Yet. Jared On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 08:04, Mercadante, Thomas F wrote:

RE: RMAN Retention Policy

2003-12-18 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Ian, I think retention policy is new in 9i. I purge my repository of backups that are older than 90 days (because our tape systems rotates and reuses tapes after that time) using the change backuppiece 330783 delete; command. I run a sql script againts the rman repository looking for pieces

RE: RMAN Retention Policy

2003-12-18 Thread Ramón Estevez
Thomas, You are right it's new in 9i Ramon E. Estevez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 809-535-8994 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ian, I think retention policy is new in 9i. I purge my repository of backups that are older

RE: RMAN Retention Policy

2003-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Did you connect to the target database first? I know this is a simple thing but sometimes we forget. Regards, Ruth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacGregor, Ian A. Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 5:04 PM To: Multiple

RE: RMAN Retention Policy

2003-12-18 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
Thanks, for the example script. I had already reached the conclusion that change backuppiece ... was needed, but hadn't yet figured how to query for the proper pieces. Ian MacGregor Stanford linear Accelerator Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, December 18,

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-08 Thread Spears, Brian
I have ftp'd the backup pieces into the identical backup location as the orignal server so I have all the stuff available... Im just wondering if I have to do something to tell it that I am on a different server... I've restored the controlfile mannually before but on the same server. I backup

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-08 Thread Spears, Brian
DENNIS...Thanks for your feedback. Here it is.. (NSF problem??) 1. I am not using Tape only disk backups.. 2. I ftp'd the backup pieces to new machine 3. I created a link to duplicate the backup location on the original machine and other locations as pfiles...edited the init file for new

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-08 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Brian - I think that is the problem -- you can't tell RMAN you are on a different server. The part I'm not getting a clear picture on is your control file. For this specific recovery, how is it getting a control file? Did you move one over from production, or are you waiting for RMAN to cough it

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-08 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Brian - My sys admin pleads amnesia on the NFS problem. My recollection was that it was misconfigured or had a default configuration that expected only a couple of connections and RMAN actually opens MANY file connections. My specific symptoms is that RMAN would create the first few data files and

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-08 Thread Spears, Brian
Dennis and all, I have no problem getting the controlfile... I just comment out the SET commands to change the directories of the dbfs...and I replicate the control according to the init file specifications.. So This operation actually extract the controlfile out of the backup piece so I

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-08 Thread Josh Collier
why not use the RMAN duplicate database process. that sounds like what you are trying to do. Have you ever let the script run to completion? Maybe its slow for another reason. I have used duplicate database on Solaris many times with great success. Josh -Original Message- Sent: Monday,

Re: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-06 Thread Jared Still
I did this exercise a few months ago and created some rough but detailed docs that you may find helpful. http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/Alternate_Client_Restore_With_Veritas_NetBackup_and_Oracle_RMAN.doc Jared On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 14:14, Spears, Brian wrote: Goal: To restore the database

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Brian - First, congratulations on performing what seems pretty close to a disaster recovery test. I don't know the specific answer to your problem, so I'll ask a couple of questions related to hard points I encountered, and maybe that will strike a cord. 1. You say you connected to your

Re: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-05 Thread Joe Testa
How did you expect the restore to work w/o first restoring the controlfile? or am i missing something here? joe Spears, Brian wrote: *Goal:* To restore the database from RMAN backup on a different server by means of moving the backup pieces and logs over to the new machine and use Rman to

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-05 Thread Janardhana Babu Donga
Title: Message By default RMAN restores the backup to the machine from where it is backedup. If you need to restore the backup on to alternate client, your netbackup admin has to setup the access. You have not mentioned whether you are using Netbackup or legato or something else. Once the

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-05 Thread Janardhana Babu Donga
Title: Message I am sorry, I thought you are restoring from Tape. In either case, you connect to target and catalog database on the new server and see if you can access the backups that were backed up on the original server. -- Janardhana -Original Message- From: Spears,

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-05 Thread Janardhana Babu Donga
Title: Message May be you try the following: If you get errors restoring controlfile, You may ftp the controlfiles manually to the new server and startup mount the database first. Then, Try your restore database. -- Janardhana -Original Message- From: Spears, Brian

RE: RMAN restore on another server

2003-12-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Janardhana - That's a good point. Brian - were you expecting RMAN to extract your controlfile from the RMAN backup pieces? You are on Oracle8i, and RMAN isn't so good at doing that in 8i. I couldn't get that to work myself. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

RE: RMAN questions

2003-12-04 Thread Stephen.Lee
I suppose just how much redundancy makes you sleep well is up to you. But, one additional bit of info to keep in mind is that the backup info also gets stored in the control files, and rman can use those too if no catalog database is available. Making a copy of a control file after the backup

Re: RMAN questions

2003-12-04 Thread Yechiel Adar
I do not think you need 2 Rman catalogs. Build a small database just for Rman. After the daily backup finished bring it down and do os level backup of all the environment for this small backup. You can then easily restore it in case of disk problems. Remember: A backup is good only when you can

Re: RE: RMAN questions

2003-12-04 Thread ryan_oracle
i must have misread the docs. i thought it was either catalog or control file. didnt know you could do both thanks. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/04 Thu AM 11:04:26 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RMAN questions I suppose just how

Re: RMAN questions

2003-12-04 Thread Yechiel Adar
backup of all the environment for this small backup. It should have been: for this small database. Sorry about the mistake. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:44 PM I do not think you

Re: RMAN Script

2003-11-25 Thread Gilles PARC
Hi Ramon, I guess you are on 8i : your setsize and fileperset specs should be inside the backup command not outside i.e. something like this : backup fileperset 2 setsize 2000 database

RE: RMAN restore to different machine

2003-11-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Randy First, you may want to investigate your company's attitude toward recovering their proprietary data on your personal machine. I can give you some ideas on your task, but my experience is on 1)Unix, and 2) Oracle 8i. I would recommend you purchase Robert Freeman's book Oracle9i RMAN

RE: RMAN restore to different machine

2003-11-24 Thread Stephen Andert
More food for thought: There is a good chance that the hardware platform is different. I think that RMAN is not a valid way of changing to a new platform and you would need to export/import. I'm certain the experts on the list will correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: RMAN restore to different machine

2003-11-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Good catch Stephen. My understanding is that you -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L More food for thought: There is a good chance that the hardware platform is different. I think that RMAN is not a valid way of changing

RE: RMAN restore to different machine

2003-11-24 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
My apologies, I bumped the send button. Stephen - my understanding is that you are correct, the platforms have to be the same at the binary level - i.e.., both Solaris, both Windows, etc. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 24,

Re: RMAN restore to different machine

2003-11-24 Thread Tanel Poder
Wait till 10g. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:29 PM My apologies, I bumped the send button. Stephen - my understanding is that you are correct, the platforms have to be the same at the binary

RE: RMAN: connecting target DB with SYS account using connect str

2003-11-04 Thread Gorbounov,Vadim
Sami, RMAN connects as SYSDBA. The password may actually be different. The good one is that works SQLconnect sys/[EMAIL PROTECTED] as SYSDBA HTH Vadim -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L string Hi list, I have

RE: RMAN: connecting target DB with SYS account using connect str

2003-11-04 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sami - You may also need to create an orapw file in order to connect as SYSDBA remotely. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L str Sami, RMAN connects as SYSDBA. The

RE: RMAN: connecting target DB with SYS account using connect string

2003-11-04 Thread Ruth Gramolini
IF you set your ORACLE_SID to the target database as the Oracle user, all you have to do is say RMAN connect target and it will automatically connect. If you are working from the command line you connect user_with_sysdba_privs/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be connected. If does not recognize

Re: RMAN Error

2003-10-30 Thread Tim Gorman
Tamizh, You are probably running out of space in the file-system you were located within when you invoked RMAN. It would be better to specify a full path-name in the FORMAT= clause (i.e. specify directory as well as filename), to make sure that the file-system where you are creating the

Re: RMAN: SVR4 Error: 27: File too large

2003-10-30 Thread Mladen Gogala
Have you ever considered purchasing Robert Freeman's RMAN book? If memory serves me right, it does describe MAXPIECESIZE option to configure and allocate channel commands. On 10/30/2003 10:04:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, How to fix this error without changing something in OS

Re: RMAN: SVR4 Error: 27: File too large

2003-10-30 Thread Ron Rogers
Tamizh, To set the limit on the size of the output file use set limit channel d1 kbytes=30; for a 3 gig file . Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/30/03 10:04AM Hi List, How to fix this error without changing something in OS level? Is tehre any command to set max block size in RMAn before we do

Re: RMAN: SVR4 Error: 27: File too large

2003-10-30 Thread Andy Rivenes
It looks like you need to SET LIMIT ... for the channel allocation, if 8i, to less than 2GB. In 9i this can be set with MAXSETSIZE (not sure if SET LIMIT is still supported in 9i). Note that you cannot back up a file larger than the SET LIMIT size, so based on your ulimit command I assume

RE: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
AK - Unless you specify otherwise, RMAN will automatically apply archive logs to bring the database up to the time of failure (your recover database statement). This is why it is good to run disaster recovery tests on a regular basis, to ensure everything is ready, and you can try different

Re: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread Mladen Gogala
You can restore database and open it to the mount phase using RMAN. Then you can get into sqlplus and type something like: alter system set log_archive_dest_1=/directory/where/log/archives/reside set autorecovery on recover database auto until cancel On 10/28/2003 12:44:24 PM, AK wrote: We

Re: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread AK
Thanks Dennis for Reply, My confusion is , does RMAN sees only those archived logs which are backup using rman or it can use current archived log as well stored in original format at other disk ? -ak - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread Ruth Gramolini
As long as you have the database in archivelog mode and have a level 0 backup as your starting point then you can recover. Make sure that your level 0 includes the controlfiles. HTH, Ruth -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of AKSent:

RE: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
AK When you have RMAN back up archived logs, IIRC, in a recovery RMAN first restores those archived logs to the location that Oracle will expect them to be, and I believe that is done as part of the RESTORE DATABASE command. In my situation, I found no advantage from having RMAN store the

Re: RMAN Incremental

2003-10-24 Thread Jared Still
Michal, Are you using partitioning, and if so, are there tablespaces you can set to read only? If so, then you only need to back up the read only tablespaces often enough that your backup software retention time doesn't cause the RO TBS's to all be aged out. This could eliminate a lot of backup

Re: RMAN Incremental

2003-10-24 Thread Arup Nanda
Michael, I hope you have the tables partitioned on some date column. You can make some of the older partitions read only and back them up only once. Another solution is to exchange the partitions with a table to convert your old partitions to tables, transporting them to a tape and keep

Re: RMAN Incremental

2003-10-24 Thread Tim Gorman
Title: Re: RMAN Incremental Michael, Another good treatment of the use of partitioning in DW to reduce backups is a paper by Jeff Maresh posted online at http://www.EvDBT.com/papers.htm, entitled Managing the Data Lifecycle. -Tim on 10/24/03 4:34 PM, Michael Kline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: RMAN problem: RMAN-20242

2003-10-15 Thread Joe Testa
I consider a 20242 error as an acceptable one, here is why: If i ask rman to backup archivelogs that are more than 2days old and there are none, thats not an error. That is when i see it the most, now most companies will force a log switch after a set amount of time during the day so in DR,

RE: RMAN - Compressing using named piped

2003-09-30 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: Message Can you figure out what to name the pipe in advance? Is there a way to reliably determine what file name RMAN will create? -Original Message-From: laura pena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:45 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list

RE: RMAN - Compressing using named piped

2003-09-30 Thread laura pena
I can use mknod and create a named pipe a head of time. I do this when I use the exp or imp utilites (just wondering if I can do same with RMAN): == export EXP_DIR="/oracle/export"export PIPE_DIR="/oracle/export"export

RE: RMAN - Compressing using named piped

2003-09-30 Thread Avnish.Rastogi
I dont think you can compress rman files while backups are running. RMAN doesnt support external compression while backups are running 'cause RMAN has to validate backups. You can compress all the files once your backup is completed. I tried that in the past but didnt work. Infect thereare

RE: RMAN error while registering the target database

2003-09-25 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
/dev/vx/rdsk/dbdg13/Rcatctrl.ctl Does this directory exist, does Oracle have priv's on it? Does the file already exist, and of so who owns it and what are the privs? RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 9/25/2003 12:39 PM Hi List, Does anyone come

RE: RMAN error while registering the target database

2003-09-25 Thread Oracle DBA
Hi Robert, The directory does not exist. I am just trying to register the database(RMANregister database). My question is... from where did it pick up the name of the control file /dev/vx/rdsk/dbdg13/Rcatctrl.ctl. Also i tried the same operation(register database) for different database which

RE: RMAN Problem

2003-09-23 Thread Josh Collier
Make sure that your oracle service is stopped and started correctly. If you can't mount the database, it may be that your oracle service has started incorrectly and is holding locks on the files that your instance needs in order for it to mount. Then check the alert log for more information.

RE: RMAN in NOCATALOG mode?

2003-09-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Denham Whether you need to back up the control file depends on whether you can recover the database without it. On Oracle8i, I gave up trying to extract the controlfile from the RMAN backup, and simply back the controlfile up after the backup completes. Others on this list have reported they

RE: RMAN in NOCATALOG mode?

2003-09-18 Thread Hemant K Chitale
It's so much easier to include an sql alter database backup controlfile to filename; in the rman script. Backup the Database first. Then backup the archive logs. Then backup the controlfile. Hemant At 06:54 AM 18-09-03 -0800, you wrote: Denham Whether you need to back up the control file

Re: RMAN in NOCATALOG mode?

2003-09-18 Thread Joe Testa
I always backup the controlfile as a separate statement AFTER the back is done so hopefully the backup i just completed is in there :) joe Denham Eva wrote: Hello Wondering about this. If backing up the database with RMAN in NOCATALOG mode. When would be the best time to do backup of the

Re: RMAN in NOCATALOG mode?

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Denham Whether you need to back up the control file depends on whether you can recover the database without it. On Oracle8i, I gave up trying to extract the controlfile from the RMAN backup, and simply back the controlfile up after the backup completes. Others on this list have

RE: RMAN in NOCATALOG mode?

2003-09-18 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
me too. learned this from testing Rman back in 8.1.6. plus, you need this control file to recover from to get as late (most recent) timestamp as possible for recovery purposes. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I

Re: RMAN in NOCATALOG mode?

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
No, controlfile is irrelevant as long as you got your physical structure somewhere (eg. controlfile trace) and all your redologs intact. You just recover using backup controlfile then (which means whatever controlfile you got, ignore it's checkpoint progress and other SCN information). That way

RE: RMAN in NOCATALOG mode?

2003-09-18 Thread Craig Munday
All, I also backup the control file as the last step within the backup and use the PL/SQL procedure within the documentation to restore the control file manually if needed - I think 9i has this in RMAN now. I found this was necessary if you wanted to get the last change from your backup and

RE: RMAN error - can someone help ?

2003-09-17 Thread Ruth Gramolini
It looks like you don't have your ORACLE_SID specified correctly since, if I read this correctly, the database you are trying to restore is on dick c:. Set you ORACLE_SID which will be the target and try again. HTH, Ruth p.s I do not have any databases on Windows so I am not sure how to set the

Re: RE: RMAN error - can someone help ?

2003-09-17 Thread Prem Khanna J
Ruth, Set you ORACLE_SID which will be the target and try again. c: set ORACLE_SID=AUX92 AUX92 is the name of my auxiliary instance on Host A ( target host ). c: rman target [EMAIL PROTECTED] catalog [EMAIL PROTECTED] auxiliary sys trace=c:\tspitr.log where PE92 is the target on same Host A

Re: Rman equivalent for MS-SQL server

2003-09-16 Thread Gudmundur Josepsson
There is no MSSQL utility that is directly equivalent to RMAN. You use Enterprise Manager or Query Analyzer to manage backups. Gudmundur - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:39

RE: Rman equivalent for MS-SQL server

2003-09-16 Thread Mark Leith
You can actually use Database Maintenance Plans, to mimic RMAN to a certain extent. Database Maintenance Plans is basically a wizard that generates a load of MSDB jobs that get run by the SQL*Agent. This does have some limitations though. It has no support for differential backups, doesn't support

RE: Rman equivalent for MS-SQL server

2003-09-16 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
This beast does not exist. You can use the Database Maintenance Plans in EM to manage your backups. I have found these to be flaky and prefer writing my own custom backup plans in scripts and schedule these as jobs. >From my experience on SQL Server I recommend doing a native SQL Server

RE: RMAN backup and recovery scenarios

2003-09-04 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Prem - I haven't found anything significant online. Perhaps someone else (Bwill point to a resource. If you want to learn RMAN, my recommendation is to (Bget a couple of books. The advantage of a book is you end up with a (Bcomprehensive resource for reference. Myself, I need to go back and

RE: RMAN backup and recovery scenarios

2003-09-04 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Look at the Backup and Recovery Doc's. And there are sample scripts in OH/rdbms/demo/case1.rcv thru case4.rcv. The backup and recovery manual is a great resource! HTH, Ruth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Prem Khanna J Sent: Thursday,

RE: RMAN backup and recovery scenarios

2003-09-04 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
My Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery book from Oracle Press has a chapter devoted to case studies and RMAN. RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 9/4/2003 11:44 AM Look at the Backup and Recovery Doc's. And there are sample scripts in

RE: RMAN backup and recovery scenarios

2003-09-04 Thread GovindanK
Besides you may refer to Backup Recovery by Rama Velpuri (8/8i). A bit old but nevertheless good. All said and done, create a clone database and keep crashing it in all ways you can think of, and try to recover it. That should give you the confidence , letting you know how oracle handles the

Re: RE: RMAN backup and recovery scenarios

2003-09-04 Thread Prem Khanna J
Thanx Dennis,Robert,and Ruth. I'm going thro' Roberts's book now. as Robert said, it has a dedicated chapter for that. ...and i'm trying all the scenarios one by one . but just thought, i could some more inputs from you Gurus. thanx a lot guys. I will continue with the book. Regards, Jp. --

RE: Rman disk performance

2003-08-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Brian I think that is about the performance we get. Maybe faster than what we get. One idea would be to Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] copy some big files using file system commands like cp and see what the

RE: Rman disk performance

2003-08-21 Thread Spears, Brian
ok... I just hanging on here...don't let me fall... what ..what? Brian :) -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Brian I think that is about the performance we get. Maybe faster than what we get. One idea would be to

RE: Rman disk performance

2003-08-21 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Brian Sorry, the mail system mangled my message. It's all there, just part is below the signature. Here it is again: I think that is about the performance we get. Maybe faster than what we get. One idea would be to copy some big files using file system commands like cp and see what the

RE: RMAN Script Question

2003-08-14 Thread David Wagoner
:52 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Cc: David WagonerSubject: RE: RMAN Script Question David, Change the following line in ur script : backup database plus archivelog delete input to backupincremental level = 0plus archivelog delete input Hth, Samir

RE: RMAN Backup piece being placed in wrong directory

2003-08-14 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Good point Tom RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 8/7/2003 1:29 PM Ronald, It looks like just the archivelog was not going into the correct directory, right? But then you did *not* include a format clause for the archivelog. Looking at the

RE: RMAN recovery

2003-08-14 Thread Anne Yu
Dennis, I have been admiring you from far. Thank you so much to reply to my email. The renamed data file has been tested and there is no corruption of any kind. The nightly physical and logical backups were successful completed with no error. However, I got an ora-19502 error when I

RE: rman implementation

2003-08-14 Thread Sai Selvaganesan
yes dennis. this is what i am planning to do. can you please mention the glitches and the parameters that have to be changed. or some pointers from your implementaion which could be very useful. thanks a lot saiDENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SaiAre you planning to do a RMAN backup

RE: RMAN recovery

2003-08-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Anne What version of Oracle is this? Okay, you renamed a production database file 10 days ago. Since then, has Oracle been able to use this file? Can you export the table that is stored on this file without error? Have you examined your RMAN backup log to ensure this file is specifically

RE: RMAN Script Question

2003-08-14 Thread SARKAR, Samir
Title: RMAN Script Question David, Change the following line in ur script : backup database plus archivelog delete input to backupincremental level = 0plus archivelog delete input Hth, Samir Samir Sarkar Oracle DBA SchlumbergerSema Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone : +44 (0) 115 -

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