testing RMAN == 2 databases in 1 Machine

2001-04-17 Thread Bambang Setiawan

Dear Listers ,

I want to try using RMAN in just 1 machine  with 2 databases ( client and target ) .
I have followed every single step in manual , but there's always error ...

Do we must run RMAN in 2 machines ? 

Thank a lot in advance  : )

=bambang=


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EXP-00003: no storage definition found for segment

2001-04-17 Thread Bachmann, Henrik

Hi there,

I have some problems to export any table, so it seems, of my Oracle 7.3.4
database. I run into the following error:

EXP-3: no storage definition found for segment (name, num) 
Cause: Export could not find the storage definitions for a cluster,
index, or table. 

Anybody out there who can give me a hint or workaround to export my entire
database?

Further explanations:

I think this behavior is not caused by bug 182656. Because of this bug, the
index 
for a primary or unique key constraint is created in a schema that is
different from
the table's schema.
Export expects these indexes to be owned by the table owner.
If it cannot find them in the owner's schema, it errors out with EXP-3.

But there is definitely no index created in a schema that is different from
the table's schema.

Therefore the following Workarounds gives no result: 
  
 - Run the export as SYS. 
  
 - Disable the primary or unique key constraint, do the export, and 
   then re-enable the constraint. 
  
 - Drop the primary or unique key constraint, recreate it in the table 
   owner's schema, and then run the export.  This will actually fix 
   the problem for the table involved.


Best regards

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B.I.M.-Consulting Magdeburghttp://www.bim-consulting.de/
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Entity Relationship diagrams

2001-04-17 Thread Ranganath K

Dear DBA Gurus,

   I have around 30 tables for which the columns, datatypes, size of
each datatype, referential integrity constraints is decided.  I need to draw
E-R diagram linking each table with one or many tables.  I am looking for a
tool which will draw the diagram for me if I provide the column names, its
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which will do this for me?  If not, how do I do this?  Any URLs or links or
documents will be very much helpful.  Any help in this regard will be very
much appreciated.

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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Re: [EXP-00003: no storage definition found for segment]

2001-04-17 Thread MOHAMMAD AMER

hi Bachman,
I wonder how you could have an index that is out of your schema,you mean you
built it with another user?
Anyway,the workaround you wrote would do it.
did you try the command prompt for export instead of using the Gui at the
server?
I got used to command prompts than GUI tools on the server and they are
great.
here is the command for the export.

"exp73 userid=username/password@connect_string file=your_file_name
tables=your_table_name,another_table_name,...etc".
I have used exp73 because you said you are using ORacle 7.3.
I issue this command from the client (if you have installed on this client the
designer 2000 tool).
when importing:
"imp73 userid=username/password@connect_string file=your_file_name
from_user=the_old_user_name to_user=the_new_user_name"

these are working very fine with me.
  Good luck


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Re: Free Java dba monitoring tool and Java source code

2001-04-17 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi,

in my opinion, Jared is only partly right. PL/SQL is a handy procedural
language extension to plain SQL. Since SQL derives from the family of
declarative languages (by the way, what happened to all the research in
the late 80s/ early 90s about hooking up PROLOG engines to RDBMSs ?
AFAIK, the major withdraw was execution speed of logical queries ...),
but the three together (SQL,PL/SQL and Java) give you a great
opportunity to use the OO paradigm within the Oracle engine (or at least
you're getting closer to it ;). This might be valuable for developer
databases, since they won't have to set up a complete 3-Tier
infrastructure just in order to test drive their stuff (besides from
within the IDE). I don't know about the usability for production
databases (yet), since it might be too messy to monitor and tune stuff
once you have both the database and the application running mixed
altogether within the DB. I know that a lot of this is done with PL/SQL,
but I personally think it's clearer to distinguish between the data and
the application unless you run some administrative things.
Just my 2 Cent ...

"Sam P. Roberts (ZADCO ITIS)" schrieb:
 
 Dear List
 
 To quote Jared recently  'And if you are wondering 'Should I learn Java?',
 the
 answer is 'definitely', as it is capable of many
 things that PL/SQL is not.'
 
 I have to totally agree with him and I think DBA's can enhance their profile
 by becoming competent in the technology.
 
 As part of my masters dissertation I have developed an SQL monitoring tool
 using Java/JDBC/thin drivers that allows the DBA to see who is taking up the
 resources currently in a database. The default is physical reads but any
 statistic can be selected. It displays like Instance manager but gives added
 functionality that it will extract the SQL that is running currently and
 allow you to Explain it online. You can sort the session data, kill
 sessions, etc.. It is a good tool especially if you suddenly get a dip in
 performance and need to quickly find which process is taking up all the
 resources. It is also good for ad-hoc monitoring.
 
 I know there are better/professional tools out there but not all companies
 can afford them,this is free and has been built in limited time. I work for
 an oil company and we have no monitoring tools, we had to rely on our own
 scripts. Most importantly I will give the source code to all that give me
 comments on the tool. This is not at all a commercial venture, purely
 academic. Plus if you want to learn about Java/JDBC this can be an
 invaluable asset/starting point as you know the subject well and you can see
 how the tool has been built.
 
 The tool is thin client - i.e. no oracle client installation necessary
 All you need to do is download Java 1.3 from Sun. If you e-mail me offline I
 will send you my website address where you can download (396kb-takes no
 time). There is also a link to the sun site for Java 2 download (this takes
 a little longer as its ABOUT 30MB).But it has all the latest swing classes
 and is the latest version.
 
 As an ex Cobol programmer in the 80's, Java is a wonderfully elegant
 language to learn and once studied is not as difficult as imagined (I
 imagined anyway).
 
 Sam
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:21 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 Oracle has repeatedly stated that PL/SQL is not
 going away.
 
 One good reason for this is that PL/SQL is highly
 optimized for DML in the database.  Java is not,
 and will not likely ever be as efficient PL/SQL
 for manipulating large amounts of data.  At least
 IMO.
 
 OOP has many benefits, but large scale DML is not
 one of them, at least not yet.
 
 PL/SQL will be around for awhile yet.
 
 And if you are wondering 'Should I learn Java?', the
 answer is 'definitely', as it is capable of many
 things that PL/SQL is not.
 
 Jared
 
 On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Jeff Cox wrote:
 
  Dear List,
 
  I haven't really seen a question on this list regarding SQLJ, and it makes
  me wonder how many people on this list actually use SQLJ.  A DBA friend of
  mine told me that eventually SQLJ will replace PL/SQL in preference, and I
  wanted to know the truth regarding his statement - so who better to ask
 than
  the experts of this list?
 
  What have you heard, or better yet, what is your opinion of SQLJ?  Is SQLJ
  the future?  Will PL/SQL die a slow death?  Can you do everything in SQLJ
  that you can do in PL/SQL?
 
 
  Cheers,
 
  Jeff Cox
  IPS-Sendero
  Scottsdale, AZ
 

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Re: Entity Relationship diagrams

2001-04-17 Thread Bambang Setiawan

Hi,

You can try a software from embarcadero  ,
perhaps www.embarcadero.com  , ( if I'm not wrong spell it ) ...
or
 go to www.platinum.com to download Erwin ...


hth,

bambang



 Bambang Setiawan 

 "Ranganath K" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17/01 03:50PM 
Dear DBA Gurus,

   I have around 30 tables for which the columns, datatypes, size of
each datatype, referential integrity constraints is decided.  I need to draw
E-R diagram linking each table with one or many tables.  I am looking for a
tool which will draw the diagram for me if I provide the column names, its
datatypes, referential integrity constraints etc.  Is there any free tool
which will do this for me?  If not, how do I do this?  Any URLs or links or
documents will be very much helpful.  Any help in this regard will be very
much appreciated.

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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AW: [EXP-00003: no storage definition found for segment]

2001-04-17 Thread Bachmann, Henrik

Hi ...

 -Ursprngliche Nachricht-
 Von: MOHAMMAD AMER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. April 2001 10:51
 An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Betreff: Re: [EXP-3: no storage definition found for segment]
 
 
 hi Bachman,
 I wonder how you could have an index that is out of your 
 schema,you mean you
 built it with another user?

Yes I mean that. This could be the reason for bug 182656 (Source: Oracle)

 Anyway,the workaround you wrote would do it.
 did you try the command prompt for export instead of using 
 the Gui at the
 server?

Yes of course.

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Re: Entity Relationship diagrams

2001-04-17 Thread Saurabh Sharma

hi,
ya there are tools which can do this work for you. one such tool i know is
Platinum ERwin, but i don't know whether it's free or not. but what i feel
is u can get some trial version of it.
try getting some more info about how to get it.
but one thing i tell u, it's really a good tool. i've used it, it's handy
and easy to use. it has tools for reverse and forward engineering.

bye,
saurabh
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 Dear DBA Gurus,

I have around 30 tables for which the columns, datatypes, size
of
 each datatype, referential integrity constraints is decided.  I need to
draw
 E-R diagram linking each table with one or many tables.  I am looking for
a
 tool which will draw the diagram for me if I provide the column names, its
 datatypes, referential integrity constraints etc.  Is there any free tool
 which will do this for me?  If not, how do I do this?  Any URLs or links
or
 documents will be very much helpful.  Any help in this regard will be very
 much appreciated.

 TIA and Regards,

 Ranganath


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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Ron Rogers

Me too, Me too!!!
ROR mm

Ron Rogers
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Georgia Lottery Corp.

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Don't Let Microsoft's Claim of Superior Database Security Fool

2001-04-17 Thread Tim Sawmiller

Geez, enough of the political debates!  Let's get back to the business at hand.  
Here's an announcement from our favorite vendor:

Don't Let Microsoft's Claim of Superior Database Security Fool You  
In a clever attempt to turnaround its weak security image, Microsoft issued a press 
release touting it's superior database security after undergoing C2 certification. 
Don't let the outdated C2 certification mislead your customers. Here is how you can 
respond to Microsoft's misleading claim of having the most secure database over 
Oracle: 

Microsoft Press Release: "Of the current version enterprise databases from Oracle 
Corp., IBM Corp. and Microsoft Corp., only SQL Server 2000 has achieved a C2 or higher 
rating from the National Security Agency (NSA), making it a National Security Agency 
Trusted Product."  
Oracle Response:  
Microsoft has finally joined the security evaluation club, only they are using 
yesterday's standard.  
No one does "Orange Book" evaluations any more. We got our first Orange Book C2 
certificate for Oracle7 in April 1994  
The NSA stated years ago that Orange Book was 'dead'. That is why the current release 
of the Oracle database has not undergone C2 certification.  
The Orange Book has been superseded by the internationally recognized, ISO standard 
Common Criteria and all leading edge products are currently being evaluated by this 
new standard. What database vendor received the first Common Criteria certificate for 
commercial database? Oracle.  
This is nothing more than the usual marketing drivel from Redmond, the folks that 
bring millions of users the weekly Internet Information Server (IIS) security patch. 
How many ecommerce web sites running the Microsoft platform have had their customers' 
credit card numbers compromised and exposed? The public has lost count. 
 
   Why is this important? 
Internet security is a top concern for C-level executives due to the risks involved. A 
single security breach can result in financial loss, public distrust, and even 
imprisonment. See the alarming statistics: 
An estimated $1.6 trillion was lost last year worldwide due to downtime associated 
with Internet security breaches (InformationWeek)  
2 out of 3 U.S. corporations, government agencies, financial institutions, medical 
institutions and universities acknowledged financial losses last year due to computer 
security breaches (Computer Security Institute Survey March 2001)  
$276.5 million lost by Europeans in 2000 due to online credit card fraud from poor 
Web-site security and security breaches (European Union)  
Customers need assurance that the Internet infrastructure maintaining their critical 
data is well protected. Third party, independent security evaluators such as the 
TCSEC, ITSEC, and the Common Criteria, to name a few, should give your customers 
confidence that the products they purchase have been thoroughly tested for security 
assurance. Your customers can trust Oracle, the only vendor with 13 security 
evaluations of its database server. See scorecard below: 
   
 Database Server Products 
Security Evaluation Oracle IBM Microsoft 
TCSEC, level B1  1 0 0 
TCSEC, level C2 1 0 1 
ITSEC, levels E3/F-C2 3 0 0 
ITSEC, levels E3/F-B1 2 0 0 
Russian Criteria, levels III, IV 2 0 0 
Common Criteria, level EAL-4 3 0 0 
FIPS-140, level 2 1 0 0 
Total 13 0 1 

A detailed list of certifications for individual Oracle server products can be found 
at the Oracle security evaluations web site. For more information about the 
terminology on the chart, download the Oracle white paper, Computer Security Criteria: 
Security Evaluations and Assessment. 


 
   What other security advantages does Oracle have over competitors? 
Security assurance does not stop with independent evaluations. An internet 
infrastructure requires multiple layers of security processes to ensure that 
exploitation or failure of one mechanism does not compromise sensitive data. Oracle 
integrates unique, multiple layers of security processes within the database to ensure 
the overall protection and privacy of your most valuable asset - information. See 
feature comparison below: 

Database Feature Comparison  

Feature Oracle9i  IBM UDB   SS 2000  
Virtual Private Database   Yes No  No 
Label Security   Yes No  No 
Selective Data Encryption Yes(IBM Platforms only)  No 
Fine-grained auditing  Yes   No   No 

   
The Internet Platform Security Services address both technology and methodology 
meeting the end-to-end security requirements of an e-business. Our security services 
ensure that security policies and system components such as firewalls, intrusion 
detection systems, web servers, application servers and data servers, are themselves 
secure and interact with each other reliably. 

 
   What press or publications support Oracle's strong security? 
Oracle, IBM 

Re: How does dropping a partition affect the rest of the table?

2001-04-17 Thread paquette stephane

If your indexes are local then no problem . If the
indexes are global you 'll have to rebuild them .



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit:  
 I've looked through the on-line documentation on
 dropping partitions
 but I have not seen the following question
 specifically addressed:
 
 How does dropping a date-range partition affect the
 rest of the
 table/partitions?   I read that if I drop a
 partition with a global
 partitioned index that the entire global index will
 need to be
 rebuilt but that's about all I've seen about the
 affect on the
 other partitions.
 
 Can I drop an unneeded partition on the fly?   What
 is the
 effect on performance of the rest of the table?  
 Does anything
 need to be brought offline before I drop the desired
 partition?
 
 Thanks in advance to all you knowledgable
 partitioners.
 
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OT Re: Do not belive MUSH and your POPCORN goverment so much

2001-04-17 Thread Gene Sais

Eric - I couldn't agree with you more!  Well said!


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16/01 10:10PM 
Celebrate the entreprenurial spirit:

 http://www.popcornfork.com/ 

excerpt:

---
  "CAUTION Ordering and using the
  POPCORN FORK will
  automatically cancel your
  membership in the FLAT WORLD
  SOCIETY! You may be ridiculed,
  and put upon by the less
  enlightened. Your best friends may
  drop you like a dirty sock when
  they see you enjoying Popcorn and
  other snacks with this instrument of
  cleanliness. But the up side is that
  you won't  leave fingerprints
  visible to the naked eye. Your
  computer keyboard will be neat and
  clean. Opportunity's won't slip
  through your fingers. You will be
  hailed by some [Me] as a "Popcorn
  Pioneer" Thank you for your
  support."
---

OT:

The whole *point* of the USA originally WAS to build a
capitalist "empire" based on a (religiously) "destined"
vision of freedom from tyrants (morally corrupt kings and
churches, then later the whole line of stupid "enlightened"
nationalist/absolutist dictators like Napolean) that
controlled their country's economies. This is clearly
explained in a very large number of books by prominent
social scientists and legitimate historians. If you would
take the time to educate yourself you would understand that
the traditions behind american culture are as unlikely to
fundamentally change (as has been the case at least since
the civil war in the 1500s in england) as is the case in
China.

   "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in
   this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy
   is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
   the 'worst' form of Government except all those others that
   have been tried from time to time."

  Sir Winston Churchill
 http://www.cp-tel.net/miller/BilLee/quotes/Churchill.html 


  "You can trust the Americans to do the right thing,
   after they have tried every other alternative. "
 - Winston Churchill, 1941


If you think anyone here (except stupid liberals) is going
to let a bunch of pissy tyrant-atheist-communists (that are
in the line of people that have HATED whites for 5000 years)
take those traditions away, you are a truly stupid dba
(certifiable).

The current government in China attempts to legitimize its
dysfunctionality, incompetence and abuse of its own people's
freedoms and needs by referring to "european imperialism",
but in typically sick fashion, conveniently ignores the fact
that it is responsible for the death for 10 of millions more
people than the european imperialists ever imagined possible.
The functional loss of an entire people (Tibet) whose
culture (mysticsm/compassion/altruism) inherently
demonstrates the vast falsehoods and fraudulency of
socialism-atheism is one of the most horrid and tragic cases
of genocide on the planet.

Unless they have had the absolute cr*p beaten out of them
first, the american people will never give up their freedom
groveling in front of pissy tyrants, liars or thieves
(including the Beijing hardliners).

   http://www.vr.net/~herzogbr/kafka/beforethelaw.htm 

regards,
ep


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 You will not hesitate to think that US is the strongest Country in this
 world. At least I am the only survive in this msg board.
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RE: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: Meeting at IOUG





I'm going to be there
(I better, I'm supposed to be giving
four presentations)


Also, for anyone in the central Ohio area, 
on thursday the Ohio Oracle Users group will be meeting
at which Gaja and I will both be presenting. 
See www.ooug.org for more details



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 Subject: Meeting at IOUG
 
 
 
 Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in 
 Florida.
 
 I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
 
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Re: testing RMAN == 2 databases in 1 Machine

2001-04-17 Thread Ruth Gramolini

No, I backup databases on 3 machines using rman. Our recovery catalog
database is on our production machine and I backup my production databases
on that machine.

Ruth
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Dear Listers ,

I want to try using RMAN in just 1 machine  with 2 databases ( client and
target ) .
I have followed every single step in manual , but there's always error ...

Do we must run RMAN in 2 machines ?

Thank a lot in advance  : )

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Re: Entity Relationship diagrams

2001-04-17 Thread paquette stephane

I do not know of any good modeling tool for free, they
all charge $$$.

I found it a bit strange that you have all the
physical layout done then want to do an entity-
relationship diagram after...

--- Ranganath K [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit:
 Dear DBA Gurus,
 
I have around 30 tables for which the
 columns, datatypes, size of
 each datatype, referential integrity constraints is
 decided.  I need to draw
 E-R diagram linking each table with one or many
 tables.  I am looking for a
 tool which will draw the diagram for me if I provide
 the column names, its
 datatypes, referential integrity constraints etc. 
 Is there any free tool
 which will do this for me?  If not, how do I do
 this?  Any URLs or links or
 documents will be very much helpful.  Any help in
 this regard will be very
 much appreciated.
 
 TIA and Regards,
 
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RE: Temporarily Renaming the sgadefSID.dbf File

2001-04-17 Thread Morrow, Steve

Good Morning!

Just wanted to thank everybody for their responses and excellent feedback.
Renaming the file worked like a charm.  This allowed me to create the
controlfile of the new database and bring it up w/o any problems.  

Now I know :-)

Steve

  -Original Message-
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 Subject:  Temporarily Renaming the sgadefSID.dbf File
 
 Hi All,
 
 Trying to clone our PROD to a test database on the same machine for
 testing our 734--8i upgrade, and of course we're encountering the
 "can't-start-the-new-without-shutting-down-the-old" database problem (ie,
 ORA-9782 on the CREATE CONTROLFILE command).  We've worked around this in
 the past by scheduling a time to bring down PROD.
 
 I know that this is the safest, most reliable way (besides NOT doing this
 on a production box...but I have no choice), but believe it or not, I
 actually saw a reference on a Metalink forum to rename the sgadefSID.dbf
 file, start up the new database, then rename the file to its original
 name.  Obviously sgadef gets created at instance startup as a memory map,
 but it doesn't look like it's used for anything after that (it's certainly
 doesn't seem to be written to).  I do know that you can get an octal dump
 of the file to determine the shared memory ID for whatever reason.
 
 Everything else I've heard/seen about this file has pretty much said DON'T
 TOUCH IT!!!  But if the instance only uses it at instance startup, is
 there any harm in renaming it temporarily to get the other database up?
 If so...why?
 
 And have any of you tried renaming or deleting the file in your cloning
 (or other) efforts?  Did it blow up, or work?
 
 TIA,
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weird bitmap error

2001-04-17 Thread Joseph Testa

Scenario:

AIX, 8.1.6.3.

Cognos cube building going on.

select count(*) from ft_sales, shows up 0 rows, its using a bitmap index out 
of the explain plan.

I force full table scan or force to use other bitmap index, or PK(normal 
index) and it comes back with correct count(20+ million).

Anyone seen anything like this before?

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RE: Do not belive BUSH and your army goverment so much

2001-04-17 Thread Kuan, Amy M

Maybe you should mention how much better China is than the US to all the
Chinese people willing to risk their lives crossing the Pacific in cargo
holds in search of a better life here.


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right now, I understand US people also just belive TV or news. The news
always controlled by goverment or service for the goverment. This fact is
for sure that US is high-handed and arbitrary.  US army fly to all over the
world and control all the world. I hate this but I feel so frustrated that
US army is No.1 in this world and all over the world can not even say a "NO"
to US.
Right now, I know many US people do not understand Chinese, Chinese do love
peace very much. Many things, these days, China are better than US now. You
should go and have a look in China. Do not be so stupid and arbitrary. Do
not belive BUSH and your army goverment so much. When the army is so good,
they want to invade China or some other coutries. I hate China does not have
good people rights. But I hate US is so impolite when they know they will
win on every army fight.
What I have forcasted are becoming true now. When BUSH was selected as
president. I forcasted he would make many bad things and use his army.
Today I forcast he will  invade China more and put all Chinese in extreme
misery. He will because he is the people who care too much about army...He
do not care about high-tech, you are losing your good salary now...You have
lose you stock options.
Just one more fact, yesterday I watched the TV, the announcer used
intimidatory voice that made very unhappy, "fuck you", I growl to the TV.
Just because you have the No.1 army so you can do all the things? Sorry for
this post because it is not about ORACLE. If US and China finish the
relationship, at least 10% more of you will lose your job.

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 They ought to learn flying their bikes from ET.. leave fighter plane
flying
 to others..

 -Kirti
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  Well, according to the stereotype, they aren't very good
  drivers, so maybe it was inevitable.
  ep
 
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/14 6:15 PM 
   How was it mean? Considering how well they seem to do their job, it
  would be
   a heck of a lot easier to become a Chinese fighter pilot than a nurse.


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Problem opening Oracle Forms

2001-04-17 Thread Chesebro, Eric

I have installed Oracle Developer/2000 on my machine.  When I try and open
up Forms I get an error message:

Message file C:\ORACLE_HOME\DBS\FMCUS.MSB not found.  

I looked for the file in that directory and it is definitely not there.

Any ideas?

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Re: index query

2001-04-17 Thread james ellis

You could use the alter index rebuild option. This
keeps the old index available for queries until the
new index has been created. You just need to make sure
you have double the space of the object you are
rebuilding when using this technique.

James
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 2)I have seen my index tablespace it is growing fast
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 tablespace even.
 Please advice what I do.
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RE: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Arnold, Sandra

I will be there also.  

Sandra Arnold
DBA
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Me too, Me too!!!
ROR mm

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RE: Materialised view

2001-04-17 Thread paquette stephane

Here is the MV log and the MV, it's generating an
ORA-12032 when trying a refresh fast.

create MATERIALIZED VIEW log on sp_ect_etat_contrat
with primary key 
(ECt_ID_PRODUIT, 
ECt_CD_SERIE   ,
ECt_CD_SOURCE  ,   
ECt_CD_AGENCE , 
ECt_CD_APPORTEUR ,   
ECt_BT_ENCOURS, 
ECt_CD_ETAT,
ECt_BT_VEP, 
ECt_BT_RPP ,
ECt_BT_NANTISSEMENT ,
ECt_MT_VALEUR_ACQUISE)
including new values ;

create materialized view admindba.sp_aec_agg_etat_ctr 
nologging 
build deferred
refresh fast
on demand
with primary key
enable query rewrite 
as select  
count(*) compte,
count(ECt_MT_VALEUR_ACQUISE) compte_MT_VALEUR_ACQUISE,
ECt_DT_ALIM  ,  
ECt_ID_PRODUIT, 
ECt_CD_SERIE   ,
ECt_CD_SOURCE  ,   
ECt_CD_AGENCE , 
ECt_CD_APPORTEUR ,   
ECt_BT_ENCOURS, 
ECt_CD_ETAT,
ECt_BT_VEP, 
ECt_BT_RPP ,
ECt_BT_NANTISSEMENT ,   
sum(ECt_MT_VALEUR_ACQUISE) somme_ECt_MT_VALEUR_ACQUISE
from admindba.sp_ect_etat_contrat
group by
ECt_DT_ALIM  ,  
ECt_ID_PRODUIT, 
ECt_CD_SERIE   ,
ECt_CD_SOURCE  ,   
ECt_CD_AGENCE , 
ECt_CD_APPORTEUR ,
ECt_BT_ENCOURS,
ECt_CD_ETAT,
ECt_BT_VEP, 
ECt_BT_RPP  ,
ECt_BT_NANTISSEMENT  ;



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   Could you send me the Create materialized view
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 have a look at it.
 
 Regards,
 
 Ranganath
 
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 stephane
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 I've sent that mail days ago with no feedback,
 Oracle
 Support hasn't been able help, anybody ?
 
 On Oracle 816/Solaris 5.7, I'm trying to refresh
 fast
 a mview without success: ORA-12032.
 It's a mview with single table aggregate, I've
 followed all the restrictions in the doc (I'm having
 a mview log, count is present,... )
 
 I can refresh force but it's doing a complete not a
 fast refresh.
 Why ?
 
 
 
 
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Ability for non DBA user to kill session.

2001-04-17 Thread lerobe - Lee Robertson



All,

Is there a method 
forallowing a non DBA user to kill their own (and only their own) session. 
I have had a trawl through Metalink and have seen various methods (using 
procedures) of doing it but all of these appear to rely on granting the alter 
system role to the user.

Oracle 
8.0.5.0.0
Compaq Tru64 
4.0f

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Oracle Deployment Engineer (DBA) with Unix Sys Admin

2001-04-17 Thread OraStaff

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Oracle's ftp site

2001-04-17 Thread Murray, Margaret

Anybody know where oracle has moved (hidden) their ftp address now?

What doesn't work:
ftp://external-ftp.us.oracle.com
ftp://209.246.5.40
ftp://205.227.44.220
ftp://oracle-ftp.oracle.com 


In case it helps, the error I get says "An error occurred reading the
contents of the folder.  Make sure the file name is valid and you have
permission to access the location specified.
Details: The connection with the server was reset."


Thanks for any help,
Margaret Murray
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Re:Don't Let Microsoft's Claim of Superior Database Security

2001-04-17 Thread dgoulet

Tim,

I'll agree, as I remember it the C2 security spec was a farse compared to
todays reality.  OH, BTW, the first NSA approved database for Confidential and
higher data was "Trusted Oracle7".  All of the others were only certified for
"For Official Use" and lower data.  And back in 92 Sql*Server was only 'allowed'
for non-mission data within the USAF.  Long story, same ending.  The only
regret, it gives Larry Ellison more reason to keep the cost high.

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Re: How does dropping a partition affect the rest of the table?

2001-04-17 Thread Cherie_Machler


Stephane,

Thanks for your reply.

Cherie


   
  
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 partition with a global
 partitioned index that the entire global index will
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RE: stupid DBA

2001-04-17 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Michael Sun wrote:
 Peace on earth and de-fragmented Oracle database everywhere.

"Peace on earth" was the password from the movie called "Dr. Strangelove", 
in my opinion one of the best movies ever made. De-fragmented databases
are not an issue any more now that we have locally mismanaged tablespaces.
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Re: Urgent - Migration

2001-04-17 Thread Gilberto Gampert

Thanks for all!!
  
I applied the patch 8.1.6.3.0 and everything was right!  
  
Again, thank you!

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current transaction in oracle

2001-04-17 Thread srinivas aradhyula

hi,

i am looking for a sql statement which can tell me the
current sql running in oracle.

TIA
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Re:32bit v. 64bit Oracle

2001-04-17 Thread paquette stephane

Since we're talking 32 VS 64 bit, anybody know when
Oracle 817 64 bits we'll be available on Solaris ?

Oracle.store only shows Oracle 816 64 bit for Solaris.

If you do not need to adress a huge SGA, what are the
benefits are running Oracle 64bit instead of Oracle 32
bit ?


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 1st, can you have a 32 and 64 bit database on
 the same machine: Yes we've
 got two machines working that way with no problems.
 
 2nd, Can you migrate from 32 to 64 bit: Yes via
 exp/imp.  I've tried just
 mounting the database files with the 64 bit
 executables  the errors are not
 pretty.  It would appear that Oracle does not like
 the control file  the
 database file headers.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
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 Can you upgrade an Oracle 8.0.5 32bit database on
 HPUX11 to Oracle 8.1.6
 64bit?
 
 Is is possible to have 8.0.5 32 bit and 8.1.6 64 bit
 on the same box if
 the box is 64 bit?
 
 If you wanted to restore a copy of production to dev
 and production was
 64 bit and dev was 32bit, would you still be able to
 do the restore
 (using Veritas Netbackup)?
 
 What are the advantages of being 64 bit versus 32
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Re: Oracle's ftp site

2001-04-17 Thread William Beilstein

ftp://oracle-ftp.oracle.com

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17/01 11:00AM 
Anybody know where oracle has moved (hidden) their ftp address now?

What doesn't work:
ftp://external-ftp.us.oracle.com 
ftp://209.246.5.40 
ftp://205.227.44.220 
ftp://oracle-ftp.oracle.com 


In case it helps, the error I get says "An error occurred reading the
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Details: The connection with the server was reset."


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URGENT: Hot Standby Graceful failover and failback

2001-04-17 Thread Leng Kaing

Good morning everyone,

HELP! HELP!!!

It's very early in the morning and I'm still struggling with the 
Oracle Hot Standby - 8.0.5 and 8I. ARGH! 

Ok, I got the failover going. I can activate the standby database and
use it as a normal database. But when I try to turn it into a standby
database again and then reactivate it again, it errors out on me.
Oracle Support just tells me that I'm not supposed to use it this way.
HUH? I'm not trying to put it back in standby mode so I can recover
from the original primary database! I want to put it back in standby
mode to similulate a total primary site loss. And always have a standby
database to activate.

Ok, I may be rambling on a bit here. Very tired.

So here's what I've done so far:


1. create a hot standby from a primary database
2. activate the hot standby
3. shutdown the new primary and made a backup of the new primary
database
4. restart the new primary, created a table and create a standby
controlfile
5. shutdown the new primary
6. restore from backup created in step 3, and replaced the current
control files with the standby controlfiles created from stop 4
7. mounted the database in standby mode again
8. tried to activate the new standby database but it failed with
ORA-1152 and ORA-1110 complaining that the system.dbf is not restored
from a sufficiently old backup.

Argh! How do we have a continuous failover and failback scenario? Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

I've just discovered Lawrence To's article on Graceful Switch Over and
Switch back as well. The following from page 11 scares me:

"Graceful switchover and switchback are not possible when the
production database's online redo logs are not accessible.

A graceful switchover and switch back is NOT possible whenever a
production database or standby database executes one of the following:

- alter database open resetlogs or
- alter database activate standby database (which does an implicit
resetlogs operation)"


HUH??? There are certainly times when we have to do a resetlogs. One of
the problems our Unix boxes have at the moment is a redo log corruption
so there are not choices but to resetlogs. So what does this all mean?
That if we resetlogs we can't ever have continuous failover and
failback? 

ARGH!! What am I dealing with here!

I need a holiday from this crazy scenario!

Ok, please let me know if you've had any success with what I'm
describing here. Am I aiming for the impossible? Surely not! 


Thanks,

Leng.



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Re:NYTimes.com Article: Myth-Matched Nations

2001-04-17 Thread dgoulet

Regrettably I don't recognize the e-mail address, but then I don't recognize
too many of them.  At any rate, and I do want to keep this short, That's one
very good article with words of wisdom for BOTH sides in this war of words.  Am
I upset with China, no not really.  I think the leadership could have been more
compliant with international law.  Surely they had the right to restrict where
that Navy crew ventured on the island, but I don't think they should have
demanded an apology right off the bat.  They should also have already allowed us
access to the aircraft for repairs  allowed it to leave, preferably under the
control of the crew that brought it in.  We did as much for a Russian Bear many
years ago.  Is not "what is good for the goose also good for the gander"?

I regret that the pilot, Wang Wei, did not make it back (GOD give him
eternal peace), but I place the blame for that in his lap.  He had control of
that fighter, and it was his poor judgment that caused the trouble, not anyone
else's.  Fighter jocks as I recall are somewhat brash people.  I know of a
couple of incidents that fall into the same category committed by US pilots,
like the sky car accident in Italy.

Now whereas I really don't want a political discussion to run amok on an
Oracle list: Robert, lighten up.  You've expressed your opinion, somewhat in a
poor location.  Some of us agree with you, some don't.  That's life.  But at
least we will always give you the chance to speak your mind.

BTW: My compliments to the remainder of the members of the list.  No one that I
read really flamed Robert or tried otherwise to silence him.  Bravo!!

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RE: Ability for non DBA user to kill session.

2001-04-17 Thread Gary Weber



Lee,

In 
short, you can't achieve this within Oracle domain short of granting ALTER 
SYSTEM to user in question or going via PL/SQL procedure owned by other, more 
protectedschema.

However, a tool like TOAD will provide similar capability for you - a 
user is capable to "cancel" long running queries. I'm guessing that is the 
desired goal in any case.

HTH,

Gary 
Weber

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to kill session.
All,

Is there a method 
forallowing a non DBA user to kill their own (and only their own) session. 
I have had a trawl through Metalink and have seen various methods (using 
procedures) of doing it but all of these appear to rely on granting the alter 
system role to the user.

Oracle 
8.0.5.0.0
Compaq Tru64 
4.0f

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RE: Oracle's ftp site

2001-04-17 Thread Anderson, Brian

 ftp://external-ftp.us.oracle.com
 ftp://205.227.44.220
 ftp://oracle-ftp.oracle.com 

These worked for me.


 Brian L. Anderson
 Flunky/SA/DBA/DERT
 Darton College
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Oracle's ftp site
 
 
 Anybody know where oracle has moved (hidden) their ftp address now?
 
 What doesn't work:
 ftp://external-ftp.us.oracle.com
 ftp://209.246.5.40
 ftp://205.227.44.220
 ftp://oracle-ftp.oracle.com 
 
 
 In case it helps, the error I get says "An error occurred reading the
 contents of the folder.  Make sure the file name is valid and you have
 permission to access the location specified.
 Details: The connection with the server was reset."
 
 
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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Stephen Andert

I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If anyone who knows 
the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.  As this is my first IOUG 
event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so it's up to all you "veterans".

Keep this thread going.  


Stephen Andert


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don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number of 
the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of those 
sessions :)

on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be sure 
of meeting others on the list there


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Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in
Florida.

I am attending and would like to join the meeting.

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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Bill Gentry

I'll be there too!  It will be my first visit to IOUG and I'm looking
forward to meeting the many folks who have contributed to my knowledge [and
amusement] through this List.  Even though I don't often post questions,
your advise to others have been very useful.  Keep up the good work.


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I will be there also.

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Me too, Me too!!!
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db and apps migration

2001-04-17 Thread Roy Ferguson

I will be upgrading our database and application server from 8.0.5.2.1 and 
11.0.2 to Oracle 8.1.6 and Applications 11.5.3.

I understand from reading the upgrade manuals as well as confirming from Oracle 
support that the database must have a db_block_size of 8k or larger.  We are 
currently setup with a 2k block size which means that we must re-build the 
database with an 8k or larger block size and the only why of doing that is via 
exp/imp.

Can anyone share their experience with exporting and importing a large database 
with thousands of objects?  We have about 35k objects in the database and a 
concern of mine is all the invalid objects that could appear after the import.  
Are there some key areas I can look at to help reduce the time to import as well 
as limiting the number of invalid objects?

thanks in advance...roy

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Re: stupid DBA

2001-04-17 Thread Mike Killough

Michael,

I disagree strongly w/ your comments about a peacefully defragemented Oracle 
database. See the article called "How to Stop Defragmenting and Start 
Living".

Mike


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Not to add fuel to fire, and I DO wish we kill trees (or electrons)
on more enjoyable subjects than geopolitics or racism, however, I have
the following to say, as a person of chinese ancestry.

1) As a member of an ethnic group that is still subjected to discrimination
  in today's America,  I denounce every type of racial hatred and
discriminatin, be it
  in the form of KKK's burning crosses or chinese bigotry against
  other racial groups.

  I don't fight hate with hate. It is simply wrong.

2) i do NOT agree with a lot of things Chinese government does, and I
suspect
  most chinese people don't either. At least they don't have the right 
to
  claim representation from us because they were not free and lawfully
elected
  by the Chinese people in the first place.

3)  That, however, doesn't give anybody the right to ridicule me, or 
chinese
   people in general, whenever the government acts silly and goofy.

Peace on earth and de-fragmented Oracle database everywhere.

Michael

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  Stupid "BUSH" time! Stupid US people select Bush as president. Stupid
DBAs.
  Stupid job mkt.
  Stupid software Engineer! I am considering to change to be a nurse
associate
  or something like that.
 
  Best wishes!
  Yours sincerely, Robert Chen
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   Hi Kevin,
  
   The Database Cache Assistant works fine till it
   reaches
   the last part where it tries to export some User
   data..
  
   The error which it gives is "Unable to export User
   privileges" and then it fails and moves onto
   installing
   other components, I tried to install Oracle DB 8.1.7
   and Oracle 9iAS on the same server. The configuration
   reaches the last part of the Database Cache
   configuration screen.
  
   Moreover once I sucessfully installed Oracle 8.1.6 DB
   and Oracle 8iAS (Earlier version) on the same server..
  
   Thanks..
  
   Sushant
  
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Oracle
9iAS sucessfully..
   
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Sushant
   
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   Yes u can install oracle 8i DB and 9iAS on the
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  Can I install Db server and Oracle9iAS on same
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  -Seema
 

   
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OT - Performance impacts with column and table aliases in SQL Ser

2001-04-17 Thread Lanteigne, Mike

Hello all,

I know, I know - An Oracle list.  However some of us work with many
databases (our shop has Oracle, SQL Server, Adabas, and Sybase), so maybe
someone on this list can help. The subject line should give enough info to
delete the message if you hate the 'other' databases. 

I was asked recently if alasing all columns and tables in SQL statements in
stored procedures has any performance impacts. I've never noticed any
problems using aliases, nor have I seen any reference to performance hits
due to using aliases. The app is an MS component design thing in which all
the database calls are made from the data tier (VB) to stored procedures in
SQL Sever. 

Any thought on this?

Mike Lanteigne

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server sizing

2001-04-17 Thread Streeter, Lerone A LBX

in gaining knowledge about oracle I've been introduced to some concepts,
components, and concerns and I'd like to get some general feedback.  so, in
general how big of a deal is server design?  what would you use as criteria
for decision making, like the need for multiple controllers and drive/file
system configurations.

my background is with ms-sql/nt and we're looking at migrating/upgrading to
oracle/nt.  we've had success with raid 5 via a single controller with
multiple channels.  I've been to the oracle dba pt 1a and have been exposed
to oracle architecture; we never had such concerns so I have no basis of
comparison.  our instructor and classmates, while knowledgeable, were more
developers than system engineers; whereas we'll be more system
engineers/administrators than developers.  what kinds of metrics/performance
should I be looking at, considering, and shooting for from the start?

right now we have about 100 users and a 20G DB which *will* increase to
probably 300 users and 40G to 50G DB; on average we're looking at about
thirty thousand transactions over an 11 hour period; again that'll probably
increase to 70,000 to 80,000 transactions over an 11 hour period.
reads/writes/queries/indexes, their size and speed, and other such
processing metrics, were never a concern.

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Re: Ability for non DBA user to kill session.

2001-04-17 Thread Connor McDonald


Create a procedure as SYS (or someone else powerful)
which does the 'alter system' and then grant just the
proc to the user

hth
connor

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 all of these appear to
 rely on granting the alter system role to the user.
  
 Oracle 8.0.5.0.0
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Re: Ability for non DBA user to kill session.

2001-04-17 Thread Tim Sawmiller

I don't think you can kill yourself anymore, at least in 8.1.6.  Even as a DBA, Oracle 
wouldn't let me off myself...

Note to ALL:  ENOUGH WITH THE POLITICAL CLAPTRAP ALREADY!!!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17/01 11:26AM 
All,
 
Is there a method for allowing a non DBA user to kill their own (and only
their own) session. I have had a trawl through Metalink and have seen
various methods (using procedures) of doing it but all of these appear to
rely on granting the alter system role to the user.
 
Oracle 8.0.5.0.0
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Regards
 
Lee

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RE: Ability for non DBA user to kill session.

2001-04-17 Thread Vadim Gorbounov



Hello, 
Li,
I 
believe, stored procedure is the best and simplyest way for this purpose. There 
is nothing wrong giving ALTER SYSTEM to _procedure owner_. End user will 
be limited to execute this procedure only, and will not require ALTER SYSTEM for 
him/herself.
Best 
regards,
Vadim 
Gorbounov
Oracle 
DBA 

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  forallowing a non DBA user to kill their own (and only their own) 
  session. I have had a trawl through Metalink and have seen various methods 
  (using procedures) of doing it but all of these appear to rely on granting the 
  alter system role to the user.
  
  Oracle 
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rman change delete

2001-04-17 Thread Claudio Roca

how to automate CHANGE BACKUPSET key DELETE ?
Any ideas?
I'm trying to obtain the backupset key with LIST BACKUPSET, and then,
i'll need to make some script to build a rman script with several CHANGE
BACKUPSET DELETE
statements.
Am i wrong?

Thank you


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Re: 9iAS -- Boxes on which to run

2001-04-17 Thread Don Jerman

My experience is that 9iAS requires 1G RAM to run well.  More if you want
IFS...  Given that the typical inexpensive Intel box is capped at 4GB and
Microsoft won't let you use more than 3GB (2.5 realistically) on a 4GB machine,
or half of your real RAM if you have less than 4GB, and that a typical Oracle DB
will want 1 or more GB to perform well, you're out of RAM before you start.
Blame it on the JVM...

"Eric D. Pierce" wrote:

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  And where did you get the info on 8.1.7 and Forms Server not being able to
  be on the same NT / W2K machine?

 Oracle tech support. They were clear (my recollection of
 verbal phone conversion) that as of 8.1.7, "middle tier"
 stuff would not run on the same NT server box as the database.

 They said that I needed to read the (latest?) "middle tier"
 white papers to understand the new (as of 8.1.7) "middle
 tier web architectural" issues, which they said are
 "complex". :) Unfortunately I haven't had time yet.

 This was in the context of a conversation about a new Win2k
 server that we are setting Oracle8 up on, and I wanted to
 know if it was still going to be possible to run the next
 equivalent to WebDB on the same box as the database. I then
 siad that it sounded like I was going to have to convert our
 old Netware3 server to NT (Win/2000) in order to test the
 8.1.7 and later "middle tier" web stuff. They said that was
 correct. so, it was specific answer, not just some general
 info.

 Since the documentation you have apparently doesn't cover
 the issue, you probably ought to call Oracle tech support.

 I am about to try to install 9iAS on my W2K
  box at home. I already have 8.1.7 EE, Forms 4.5/5.0/6i, and tons of other
  stuff installed. I've read through the install guide, the various release
  notes, etc and never came across that. But, if it is so, I don't intend to
  waste a perfectly good day trying to get things to work.

 ya.

 please let me know what you find out.
 ep

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Further OT: Dr. Strangelove

2001-04-17 Thread Anderson, Brian

Or was it "Purity of Essence"

Protect your bodily fluids.

If you don't get the President on the phone, you'll have to answer to the
Coca-Cola Company.

A GREAT MOVIE.


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 "Peace on earth" was the password from the movie called "Dr. 
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 in my opinion one of the best movies ever made. De-fragmented 
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 are not an issue any more now that we have locally mismanaged 
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Re: current transaction in oracle

2001-04-17 Thread G . Plivna


COLUMN address NOPRINT
COLUMN username FORMAT a12
BREAK ON address SKIP 1
SELECT
   a.address
  ,sql_text
  ,osuser
  ,username
FROM
   v$sqltext a
  ,v$session s
WHERE s.SQL_ADDRESS = a.ADDRESS
  AND s.status = 'ACTIVE'
  AND s.type !='BACKGROUND'
ORDER BY
   a.ADDRESS
  ,a.piece;

http://www.itsystems.lv/gints/dba_selects.htm#s2

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RE: current transaction in oracle

2001-04-17 Thread Hsu, Anthony C., ,CPMS

Try

select * from sys.v_$sqlarea

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hi,

i am looking for a sql statement which can tell me the
current sql running in oracle.

TIA
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Re: Free Java dba monitoring tool and Java source code

2001-04-17 Thread Andy Duncan

Hi Sam,

 As part of my masters dissertation I have developed an SQL monitoring tool
 using Java/JDBC/thin drivers that allows the DBA to see who is taking up the
 resources currently in a database. 
 This is not at all a commercial venture, purely
 academic. Plus if you want to learn about Java/JDBC this can be an
 invaluable asset/starting point as you know the subject well and you can see
 how the tool has been built.

I'd love to see your Java Oracle DBA Open Source tool, up on a public internet
site somewhere for download! :-)

Some other Java-Oracle type Open Source links you might want to look at, to
help further your own work, are:

Apache JServ = http://java.apache.org/jserv/index.html
DB Prism, Java/Oracle servlet engine =
http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/doc/Home.html
Tomcat (replacement for JServ) = http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html
jDBA, another Java Oracle DBA tool = http://www.jdba.org
ViennaSQL, Java/Oracle SQL tool = http://vienna.sourceforge.net

jDBA may the one you're most interested in, but using Java as the programming
language for Open source projects, including Oracle ones, is growing rapidly in
popularity! :-)

Hope this is of some use 8)

Rgds,
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(Fwd) Tar # 1339336.996:run all on one win2000 box: OEM, DB, Forms Web server?

2001-04-17 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Larry  folks,

It's taking OWS a while to clarify/answer on the question of 
running db/oem/forms-server on one NT servre box (originally
submitted friday 13th).  

regards,
ep

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RE: URGENT: Hot Standby Graceful failover and failback

2001-04-17 Thread Lanteigne, Mike

I think you may be trying to do a little too much with the current standby
architecture. Oracle now has  product called Data Guard that will let you do
what you want. I've only read the docs on Data Guard, but supposedly you can
switch primary and standby database, and switch back without re-creating
anything.

Good luck

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 -Original Message-
 From: Leng Kaing [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:10 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  URGENT: Hot Standby Graceful failover and failback
 
 Good morning everyone,
 
 HELP! HELP!!!
 
 It's very early in the morning and I'm still struggling with the 
 Oracle Hot Standby - 8.0.5 and 8I. ARGH! 
 
 Ok, I got the failover going. I can activate the standby database and
 use it as a normal database. But when I try to turn it into a standby
 database again and then reactivate it again, it errors out on me.
 Oracle Support just tells me that I'm not supposed to use it this way.
 HUH? I'm not trying to put it back in standby mode so I can recover
 from the original primary database! I want to put it back in standby
 mode to similulate a total primary site loss. And always have a standby
 database to activate.
 
 Ok, I may be rambling on a bit here. Very tired.
 
 So here's what I've done so far:
 
 
 1. create a hot standby from a primary database
 2. activate the hot standby
 3. shutdown the new primary and made a backup of the new primary
 database
 4. restart the new primary, created a table and create a standby
 controlfile
 5. shutdown the new primary
 6. restore from backup created in step 3, and replaced the current
 control files with the standby controlfiles created from stop 4
 7. mounted the database in standby mode again
 8. tried to activate the new standby database but it failed with
 ORA-1152 and ORA-1110 complaining that the system.dbf is not restored
 from a sufficiently old backup.
 
 Argh! How do we have a continuous failover and failback scenario? Any
 help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 I've just discovered Lawrence To's article on Graceful Switch Over and
 Switch back as well. The following from page 11 scares me:
 
 "Graceful switchover and switchback are not possible when the
 production database's online redo logs are not accessible.
 
 A graceful switchover and switch back is NOT possible whenever a
 production database or standby database executes one of the following:
 
 - alter database open resetlogs or
 - alter database activate standby database (which does an implicit
 resetlogs operation)"
 
 
 HUH??? There are certainly times when we have to do a resetlogs. One of
 the problems our Unix boxes have at the moment is a redo log corruption
 so there are not choices but to resetlogs. So what does this all mean?
 That if we resetlogs we can't ever have continuous failover and
 failback? 
 
 ARGH!! What am I dealing with here!
 
 I need a holiday from this crazy scenario!
 
 Ok, please let me know if you've had any success with what I'm
 describing here. Am I aiming for the impossible? Surely not! 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Leng.
 
 
 
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RE: 32bit v. 64bit Oracle

2001-04-17 Thread Lanteigne, Mike

Stephen, 

Last time I checked Metalink (couple of weeks ago), 8.1.7 64-bit status was
"projected" with Sun Sparc Solaris. I filled out a TAR asking when it will
be certified, and they told me to check Metalink (even offered me walk me
though the web pages)!

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 Subject:  Re:32bit v. 64bit Oracle
 
 Since we're talking 32 VS 64 bit, anybody know when
 Oracle 817 64 bits we'll be available on Solaris ?
 
 Oracle.store only shows Oracle 816 64 bit for Solaris.
 
 If you do not need to adress a huge SGA, what are the
 benefits are running Oracle 64bit instead of Oracle 32
 bit ?
 
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit :  Connie,
  
  1st, can you have a 32 and 64 bit database on
  the same machine: Yes we've
  got two machines working that way with no problems.
  
  2nd, Can you migrate from 32 to 64 bit: Yes via
  exp/imp.  I've tried just
  mounting the database files with the 64 bit
  executables  the errors are not
  pretty.  It would appear that Oracle does not like
  the control file  the
  database file headers.
  
  Dick Goulet
  
  Reply
  Separator
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  Can you upgrade an Oracle 8.0.5 32bit database on
  HPUX11 to Oracle 8.1.6
  64bit?
  
  Is is possible to have 8.0.5 32 bit and 8.1.6 64 bit
  on the same box if
  the box is 64 bit?
  
  If you wanted to restore a copy of production to dev
  and production was
  64 bit and dev was 32bit, would you still be able to
  do the restore
  (using Veritas Netbackup)?
  
  What are the advantages of being 64 bit versus 32
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Re: rman change delete

2001-04-17 Thread Ruth Gramolini

All of the items are in the tables which underlie the views. Just use sql to
delete the items you want.  Just be careful!

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 how to automate CHANGE BACKUPSET key DELETE ?
 Any ideas?
 I'm trying to obtain the backupset key with LIST BACKUPSET, and then,
 i'll need to make some script to build a rman script with several CHANGE
 BACKUPSET DELETE
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 Am i wrong?

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RE: current transaction in oracle

2001-04-17 Thread Tim Sawmiller

set pagesize 1000
spool actual
SELECT
SID,
TYPE,
STATUS,
USERNAME,
SQL_TEXT,
EXECUTIONS,
LOCKWAIT,
SERVER,
OSUSER,
PROCESS,
MACHINE,
TERMINAL,
PROGRAM
FROM
V$SQLAREA,
V$SESSION
WHERE
V$SESSION.SQL_ADDRESS = V$SQLAREA.ADDRESS(+)
AND V$SESSION.SQL_HASH_VALUE = V$SQLAREA.HASH_VALUE(+)
ORDER BY
SID
/
spool off

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Try

select * from sys.v_$sqlarea

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hi,

i am looking for a sql statement which can tell me the
current sql running in oracle.

TIA
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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Ari D Kaplan

Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
propose a time and place...

Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
hall until 7:45.

So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
talk.

- Ari Kaplan

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:

 I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If anyone who 
knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.  As this is my first 
IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so it's up to all you "veterans".
 
 Keep this thread going.  
 
 
 Stephen Andert
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
 don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number of 
 the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of those 
 sessions :)
 
 on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be sure 
 of meeting others on the list there
 
 
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 Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in
 Florida.
 
 I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
 
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RE: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: Meeting at IOUG





I should have know Rachel would get picky.


Yes, I mean this Thursday, April 19th, 2001



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 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:36 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Meeting at IOUG
 
 
 just to clarify, that's THIS Thursday, right? Not the last 
 day of IOUG :)
 
 
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 I'm going to be there
 (I better, I'm supposed to be giving
 four presentations)
 
 Also, for anyone in the central Ohio area,
 on thursday the Ohio Oracle Users group will be meeting
 at which Gaja and I will both be presenting.
 See www.ooug.org for more details
 
 
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   I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
  
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RE: server sizing

2001-04-17 Thread Ed . Haskins

Lerone,

My opinion is that your database on an NT platform will not scale as well as
you may hope.  You are talking about adding 100-150% more data and tripling
your users to 300.  I would strongly recommend going to a Unix platform for
your database.  Also, if the database is going to grow that much...it is
likely a write intensive application that would perform better on something
other than RAID5...maybe RAID0+1.  

Certainly there are servers that can handle this load...on NT, but if you
are going to that large a server...why not go Unix and increase your
performance (I know, an NT box costs less...but if cost isn't an issue!?!).

That's just my opinion...and I actually started my IT career as an NT Admin!

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
Verizon Wireless



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in gaining knowledge about oracle I've been introduced to some concepts,
components, and concerns and I'd like to get some general feedback.  so, in
general how big of a deal is server design?  what would you use as criteria
for decision making, like the need for multiple controllers and drive/file
system configurations.

my background is with ms-sql/nt and we're looking at migrating/upgrading to
oracle/nt.  we've had success with raid 5 via a single controller with
multiple channels.  I've been to the oracle dba pt 1a and have been exposed
to oracle architecture; we never had such concerns so I have no basis of
comparison.  our instructor and classmates, while knowledgeable, were more
developers than system engineers; whereas we'll be more system
engineers/administrators than developers.  what kinds of metrics/performance
should I be looking at, considering, and shooting for from the start?

right now we have about 100 users and a 20G DB which *will* increase to
probably 300 users and 40G to 50G DB; on average we're looking at about
thirty thousand transactions over an 11 hour period; again that'll probably
increase to 70,000 to 80,000 transactions over an 11 hour period.
reads/writes/queries/indexes, their size and speed, and other such
processing metrics, were never a concern.

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RE: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael

HEY!  :)

Just don't want anyone to be disappointed is all




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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:45:37 -0800

I should have know Rachel would get picky.

Yes, I mean this Thursday, April 19th, 2001


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  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:36 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: Meeting at IOUG
 
 
  just to clarify, that's THIS Thursday, right? Not the last
  day of IOUG :)
 
 
  From: "Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Meeting at IOUG
  Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:50:50 -0800
  
  I'm going to be there
  (I better, I'm supposed to be giving
  four presentations)
  
  Also, for anyone in the central Ohio area,
  on thursday the Ohio Oracle Users group will be meeting
  at which Gaja and I will both be presenting.
  See  www.ooug.org for more details
  
  
  R. Matt Adams  - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Stephen Andert

I nominate Monday evening.  That way those of us who don't know anyone will have more 
familiar faces the rest of the week (especially at the big bash on Tuesday).   

I don't have a clue where to meet.  IOUG veterans any suggestions?

Stephen Andert



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RE: Entity Relationship diagrams Qdesigner using same engine as P

2001-04-17 Thread Mandar Ghosalkar


its using the same engine as powerdesigner.
whats the gimmick behind this.

Story

1. Hack Bill Gates  Larry Ellisons bank accounts. 
2. Buy Oracle DB source licence from Oracle.
3. Write a Search and Replace globally (s/Oracle/FreeOracle/g)
4. Market FreeOracle

Just Daydreaming...

-Mandar
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:26 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Entity Relationship diagrams
 
 
 Here's another to add to the list... and guess what - GASP - it's from
 Quest!! Another one to add to their growing "Supermarket 
 Shopping List"! I'm
 getting the scent of CA/Platinum here..
 
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 Quest Software Announces Release of QDesigner(tm) to Round-Out 
 Comprehensive
 Development Suite of Products
 PR News
 April 16 2001 04:52AM PT
 
 
 QDesigner Provides Efficient Database Analysis, Design and 
 Construction
 
 IRVINE, Calif., April 16 /PRNewswire/ -- Quest Software, Inc. (Nasdaq:
 QSFT), a leading provider of application management solutions, today
 announced the release of QDesigner(tm), an innovative database 
 design tool that
 enables users to efficiently manage the process of 
 application design from
 data and object modeling to code generation, resulting in an 
 enormous time
 savings for the designers.
 
 QDesigner accelerates database design and construction 
 processes through the
 use of advanced Entity/Relationship (ER) modeling techniques 
 that include
 the ability to "draw" database models, displaying an actual 
 diagram of the
 design before it is applied. QDesigner also allows designers, 
 developers and
 DBAs to visualize database components, so they can 
 collaborate and share
 ideas on how the database should be structured while it is 
 being designed.
 
 "Recently, customers have been asking for more functional 
 database design
 solutions," said Marshall Senk, vice president of marketing for Quest
 Software. "With QDesigner, we are ready to meet that demand. 
 We believe the
 technology that QDesigner provides will allow IT resources to be more
 efficiently deployed in the database design function. It not 
 only rounds-out
 Quest's development suite of products, but also provides users with an
 advanced design and modeling tool."
 
 QDesigner automates the process of creating and changing the 
 application
 components and underlying database structures and is 
 especially useful in
 environments where applications are utilized by many business 
 units and
 developed and supported by different portions of the IT organization.
 
 "I've been a database administrator and data architect for 
 ten years and
 have used other design tools, but QDesigner is the first ER 
 tool I've found
 that provides such comprehensive design and analysis 
 capabilities," said
 Donna Maser, database administrator for the Celltech Group, 
 one of Europe's
 largest biopharmaceutical companies(1). "QDesigner delivers 
 all the positive
 features of its competitors and more. It is the first product 
 of its kind
 that can provide me with usable code directly from the model 
 I lay out."
 
 QDesigner joins Quest Software's solutions for SQL 
 developers, SQL Navigator
 and TOAD, which have been designed to enhance the 
 productivity of users and
 their applications by providing tools for designing, 
 developing, testing and
 impact analysis. QDesigner is now generally available with 
 pricing starting
 at $995 per server.
 
 
 
 More reasonable than ERWin as well I should think..
 
 Regards
 
 Mark
 
 
 -Original Message-
 stephane
 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 02:41
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I do not know of any good modeling tool for free, they
 all charge $$$.
 
 I found it a bit strange that you have all the
 physical layout done then want to do an entity-
 relationship diagram after...
 
 --- Ranganath K [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit:
  Dear DBA Gurus,
 
 I have around 30 tables for which the
  columns, datatypes, size of
  each datatype, referential integrity constraints is
  decided.  I need to draw
  E-R diagram linking each table with one or many
  tables.  I am looking for a
  tool which will draw the diagram for me if I provide
  the column names, its
  datatypes, referential integrity constraints etc.
  Is there any free tool
  which will do this for me?  If not, how do I do
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  this regard will be very
  much appreciated.
 
  TIA and Regards,
 
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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread SuzyV


Margaritas?  I'm there :)

Ari D Kaplan wrote:
 
 Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
 propose a time and place...
 
 Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
 Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
 hall until 7:45.
 
 So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
 and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
 http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
 views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
 priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
 town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
 talk.
 
 - Ari Kaplan
 
 On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:
 
  I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If anyone who 
knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.  As this is my first 
IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so it's up to all you "veterans".
 
  Keep this thread going.
 
 
  Stephen Andert
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
  don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number of
  the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of those
  sessions :)
 
  on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be sure
  of meeting others on the list there
 
 
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RE: ADMIN: Off-Topic (was: RE: Do not belive BUSH and your army

2001-04-17 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: RE: ADMIN: Off-Topic (was: RE: Do not belive BUSH and your army gov





Wow, I guess Jared was fired, eh?


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Anyone out there using CA/Platinum's PR_OEE Tool?

2001-04-17 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: Anyone out there using CA/Platinum's PR_OEE Tool?





I'd like to ask a question of you offline ( only
b/c it is likely an extremely niche-y product. ) 


TIA, 


Ross





RE: OPS waits

2001-04-17 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA


 O.P.S. Setup in Benchmark Runs :- 
 --
 2 DB Servers - ES40 Alpha machines - 4 CPUs , 8 GB RAM - O.S. DEC 5.1 
 1st APP Server  - ES40 Alpha machines - 4 CPUs , 8 GB RAM - O.S. DEC 5.1 
 2nd APP Server - SUNe420R - 4 CPUs , 4 GB RAM - Solaris 2.6 
 3rd APP Server - SUNe420R - 4 CPUs , 4 GB RAM - Solaris 2.6 
 
 Transaction Volume - ALL the Following 4 Sets Fired CONCURRENTLY(At the
 SAME Time) :-
 1) From 1st Digital APP Server (Digital) onto 1st DB Server -  9,000
 Transactions using 350 Concurrent Processes fired 
 2) From 1st APP Server (Digital) onto 2nd DB Server -  9,000 Transactions
 using 350 Concurrent Processes fired 
 3) From 2nd APP Server ( SUN )onto 1st DB Server -  7,000 Transactions
 using 250 Concurrent Processes fired 
 4) From 3rd SUN APP Server ( SUN ) onto 2nd DB Server -  7,000
 Transactions using 250 Concurrent Processes fired 
 
 TOTAL   = 16,000 Transactions Fired on EACH DB Server using 600
 Concurrent processes 
 Grand Total (Overall Picture)= 32,000 Transactions using 1200 Concurrent
 Processes
 
 
 report.txt :-
 
 SVRMGR Rem System wide wait events for non-background processes (PMON,
 SVRMGR Rem SMON, etc).  Times are in hundreths of seconds.  Each one of
 SVRMGR Rem these is a context switch which costs CPU time.  By looking at
 SVRMGR Rem the Total Time you can often determine what is the bottleneck
 SVRMGR Rem that processes are waiting for.  This shows the total time
 spent
 SVRMGR Rem waiting for a specific event and the average time per wait on
 SVRMGR Rem that event.
 SVRMGR select  n1.event "Event Name",
  2 n1.event_count "Count",
  3 n1.time_waited "Total Time",
  4 round(n1.time_waited/n1.event_count, 2) "Avg Time"
  5from stats$event n1
  6where n1.event_count  0
  7order by n1.time_waited desc;
 Event Name   Count Total TimeAvg Time
  - - -
 SQL*Net message from client5997869 22790881838
 row cache lock   51420   1009555 19.63
 buffer busy due to global cache 125239984724  7.86
 PX Idle Wait  3034592902195.42
 enqueue  39427558395 14.16
 global cache cr request 224608251426  1.12
 global cache lock null to x  55634240560  4.32
 latch free  170235172573  1.01
 global cache lock open x 46776124447  2.66
 
 Qs. Do these Waits' VALUES seem Excessive ? If so What may be Done to
 Overcome them ?
 
 
 
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RE: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Hillman, Alex

Anybody knows what is a Pleasure Island event?

Alex Hillman

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Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
propose a time and place...

Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
hall until 7:45.

So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
talk.

- Ari Kaplan

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:

 I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If
anyone who knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.
As this is my first IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so
it's up to all you "veterans".
 
 Keep this thread going.  
 
 
 Stephen Andert
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
 don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number of

 the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of those

 sessions :)
 
 on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be
sure 
 of meeting others on the list there
 
 
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 Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in
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 I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
 
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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael

sounds good to me any others?



From: Ari D Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
propose a time and place...

Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
hall until 7:45.

So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
talk.

- Ari Kaplan

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:

  I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If 
anyone who knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.  
As this is my first IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so 
it's up to all you "veterans".
 
  Keep this thread going.
 
 
  Stephen Andert
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
  don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number 
of
  the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of 
those
  sessions :)
 
  on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be 
sure
  of meeting others on the list there
 
 
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  I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
  
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Oracle Service does not start

2001-04-17 Thread Helmut Daiminger

Hi!

I'm having a problem with Oracle on Win2k here. I can't start Oracle by
using the Management Console (i.e. start the windows Service). The Service
remains in the status "starting" but never goes to "started". Then I can't
even stop the service again. Not with the tool neither with the command
line.

I can start the database using SVRMGRL / SQLPLUS, but the Windows Service
still doesn't start. Seems weird to me.

Any ideas?

This is 8.1.6.3.0 on Win2k

Thanks,
Helmut

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RE: ADMIN: Off-Topic (was: RE: Do not belive BUSH and your army

2001-04-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Bruce runs fatcity

Jared monitors this particular list

no one was fired


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Wow, I guess Jared was fired, eh?

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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread James Howerton

I'm a first timer too. Monday night sounds good.


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I'll be there too!  It will be my first visit to IOUG and I'm looking
forward to meeting the many folks who have contributed to my knowledge [and
amusement] through this List.  Even though I don't often post questions,
your advise to others have been very useful.  Keep up the good work.


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I will be there also.

Sandra Arnold
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Me too, Me too!!!
ROR mm

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fwd: 20 Differences Between Oracle on NT and Oracle on Unix

2001-04-17 Thread Eric D. Pierce


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   Creation Date: 
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 20 DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ORACLE ON WINDOWS NT AND ORACLE ON UNIX
 ==

 PURPOSE
 ===
 This note enumerates the 20 most obvious differences between
 (Oracle on) Unix and NT.

 SCOPE  APPLICATION
 ===
 This note is directed towards dba's and system engineers with
 either a moderate knowledge of (Oracle on) NT or Unix.

 RELATED NOTES
 =
 [NOTE:46001.1] : Oracle and the Windows NT memory architecture
 [NOTE:46053.1] : Windows NT Memory Architecture Overview

 1. AVAILABILITY
   
 Windows NT has been existence since 1993. It runs on two processor
 architectures: Intel X86 (needs Pentium) and Digital Alpha AXP.
 The Windows NT operating system is only available from Microsoft.

 UNIX has been in existence since 1972: previous versions did exist,
 but they were written in PDP assembly language, rather than C. UNIX
 runs on most hardware architectures and versions are supplied by 
 many vendors, most notably Sun, HP, IBM, Digital, Sequent, Data
 General, NCR and SCO.


 2. SECURITY

 Windows NT 3.5 has been evaluated successfully at U.S. Department
 of Defense C2 security level (TCSEC class C2 rating). A utility on
 the Windows NT Resource kit, C2 Configuration/Security Manager,
 reports the state of compliance of the relevant features, such as
 whether the last username is displayed at logon.

 As of 2000.07.25 NT 4.0 does not have a TCSEC class C2 rating.

 For Microsoft's own statement about this, see:

 http://www.microsoft.com/NTServer/security/exec/feature/c2_security.asp

 Some specialised UNIX variants support the B1 level of security.


 3. USER INTERFACE

 Windows NT has a common graphical user interface across architecture
 types. The interface changed between NT 3.51 and NT 4.0 from
 Windows 3.11 style to Windows 95/98 style.

 Many UNIX versions have an X-Windows type of user interface, the
 appearance varying between flavours. Linux in particular offers a
 number of GUI interfaces, including Windows look-alikes. However,
 most UNIX commands are still character mode terminal based.


 4. NUMBER OF DISK DRIVES

 Windows NT is limited to using drive letters A-Z, though use of raw
 partitions can allow disks to be divided up into smaller sections (see
 question 17).

 UNIX has no built-in limitation on number of disk drives.


 5. BACKGROUND PROCESSING AND BATCH JOBS

 NT only has the AT command. An easier-to-use GUI version may be found
 on the Resource Kit.

 UNIX has more sophisticated job control mechanisms.


 6. RECOMPILATION

 NT applications only require recompiling if moved to a
 different architecture, e.g. Intel to Alpha.

 UNIX applications require recompiling if moved to a different
 platform, e.g. HP to IBM RS/6000. They also need recompiling
 for different UNIX releases on the same platform.


 7. SCALABILITY

 Standard Windows NT currently scales effectively to four CPUs, though
 some manufacturers have recently announced eight-way systems. 

 UNIX scales to at least 64 CPUs.


 8. NUMBER OF SESSIONS

 Windows NT supports only a single interactive GUI session, unless
 Microsoft Terminal Server, RAS or a third-party tool is used.

 UNIX supports hundreds of interactive GUI or character mode
 sessions.


 9. APPLICATION AVAILABILITY

 Several thousand applications are available specifically for Windows NT.
 It can also run many of the thousands of 16-bit Windows applications.
 Third-party products allow some UNIX applications to be run, though the
 greatest interest is the other way, enabling Windows NT applications to
 run under UNIX variants, especially Linux. Some public domain software
 is available for Windows NT.

 There are many thousands of UNIX applications on the market. A large
 amount of public domain software is also available. Emulation software,
 available for many flavours of UNIX, allows many 16-bit Windows
 applications to be run. 

 10. FILESYSTEM TYPES AND CAPABILITIES

 Windows NT supports two filesystems - FAT and NTFS. Oracle software and
 datafiles can be installed on either type, with the following provisos:

 Security

 - FAT filesystem has no file-level security
 - Once a user is connected to the NT server, they have full access
   to any FAT file (i.e. they can delete or overwrite the file)
 - NTFS filesystem has file-level security

 Once a user is connected to an NT server, they must then have
 access to a file to be able to access it.

 NT files can only have a single 

Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Ron Rogers

No offence to anyone but I enjoy being the designated driver. I have a good sense of 
humor and a great time at any get-together. 
 Any location that the group can centrally find is ideal.
ROR mm



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RE: server sizing

2001-04-17 Thread Streeter, Lerone A LBX

I'm envisioning various levels of raid just wanted to get something out
quick for some feedback.  for example, I'm thinking the data files, redo
logs, arc log, and control files would be on differently combined disks.

of course some file system recovery and redundancy is desired, but to what
level should we go?  currently we've got a raid1 set w/ O/S and documents,
raid5 with hot spares for our existing mssql DB, and the logs on separate
raid5 set; wanted raid1 for mssql logs but other issues arose and we had to
go w/ raid5.  this is very functional and suits our needs, failure coverage,
low processor utilization, etc.  but with oracle I'd be very worried about
running on a similarly built platform.

I didn't even mention raw partitions, which were stressed as being a better
scenario.  they offered the suggestion of multiple controllers with database
files spread across drives and controllers, this method of "striping" being
an alternative to raid.  I wasn't too comfortable with the thought of a
server w/ raw partitions and no hardware redundancy/recovery implementation,
but the performance/functionality benefits were highly praised.  so I
thought maybe a mix, some raid10 or 01.

maybe a raid1 set containing O/S, arc, and control files, a number of raid0
sets with redo logs stripped across them, and a raid5 set with the data
files.  then there's the issue of storage, what capacity to shoot for as
well as memory; currently we've got 1.2Gs of RAM and I'd shoot for at least
twice that.

why NT?  familiarity and comfort.  we've asked and everyone doted on
oracle's ability to run on NT just as well as *nix and being that we have 0
*nix boxes mgmt of course wanted NT.  we looked for support in having oracle
on *nix but found none and accepted the offering.


thanks for the feedback.  I'm hoping some others will offer suggestions or
comments, support, or horror stories to help me in gathering information.

I don't know if the additional processing will burden the system based on
drive configuration/file system choices.  I don't know if a couple of
controllers or several will be required, just trying to get an idea of what
exists.

we haven't purchased any hardware yet but we need to get an idea soon.
thanks again for the feedback, and forgive my ramblings.
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Lerone,

My opinion is that your database on an NT platform will not scale as well as
you may hope.  You are talking about adding 100-150% more data and tripling
your users to 300.  I would strongly recommend going to a Unix platform for
your database.  Also, if the database is going to grow that much...it is
likely a write intensive application that would perform better on something
other than RAID5...maybe RAID0+1.  

Certainly there are servers that can handle this load...on NT, but if you
are going to that large a server...why not go Unix and increase your
performance (I know, an NT box costs less...but if cost isn't an issue!?!).

That's just my opinion...and I actually started my IT career as an NT Admin!

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
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in gaining knowledge about oracle I've been introduced to some concepts,
components, and concerns and I'd like to get some general feedback.  so, in
general how big of a deal is server design?  what would you use as criteria
for decision making, like the need for multiple controllers and drive/file
system configurations.

my background is with ms-sql/nt and we're looking at migrating/upgrading to
oracle/nt.  we've had success with raid 5 via a single controller with
multiple channels.  I've been to the oracle dba pt 1a and have been exposed
to oracle architecture; we never had such concerns so I have no basis of
comparison.  our instructor and classmates, while knowledgeable, were more
developers than system engineers; whereas we'll be more system
engineers/administrators than developers.  what kinds of metrics/performance
should I be looking at, considering, and shooting for from the start?

right now we have about 100 users and a 20G DB which *will* increase to
probably 300 users and 40G to 50G DB; on average we're looking at about
thirty thousand transactions over an 11 hour period; again that'll probably
increase to 70,000 to 80,000 transactions over an 11 hour period.
reads/writes/queries/indexes, their size and speed, and other such
processing metrics, were never a concern.

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RE: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Pleasure Island is one of the Disney resorts


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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:28:21 -0800

Anybody knows what is a Pleasure Island event?

Alex Hillman

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Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
propose a time and place...

Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
hall until 7:45.

So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
talk.

- Ari Kaplan

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:

  I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If
anyone who knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.
As this is my first IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so
it's up to all you "veterans".
 
  Keep this thread going.
 
 
  Stephen Andert
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
  don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number 
of

  the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of 
those

  sessions :)
 
  on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be
sure
  of meeting others on the list there
 
 
  From: "Murali Vallath" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in
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  I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
  
  Murali Vallath
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RE: Oracle Service does not start

2001-04-17 Thread Kuan, Amy M

See note 132086.1 on Metalink.

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Hi!

I'm having a problem with Oracle on Win2k here. I can't start Oracle by
using the Management Console (i.e. start the windows Service). The Service
remains in the status "starting" but never goes to "started". Then I can't
even stop the service again. Not with the tool neither with the command
line.

I can start the database using SVRMGRL / SQLPLUS, but the Windows Service
still doesn't start. Seems weird to me.

Any ideas?

This is 8.1.6.3.0 on Win2k

Thanks,
Helmut

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Re: URGENT: Hot Standby Graceful failover and failback

2001-04-17 Thread Michael Netrusov

Hello Leng,

 1. create a hot standby from a primary database
 2. activate the hot standby
 3. shutdown the new primary and made a backup of the new primary
 database
 4. restart the new primary, created a table and create a standby
 controlfile
 5. shutdown the new primary
 6. restore from backup created in step 3, and replaced the current
 control files with the standby controlfiles created from stop 4
 7. mounted the database in standby mode again
 8. tried to activate the new standby database but it failed with
 ORA-1152 and ORA-1110 complaining that the system.dbf is not restored
 from a sufficiently old backup.

I thought you were supposed to do a hot backup of a new primary and restore it to the 
old primary. After that, mount the old primary
as a new standby.

 Argh! How do we have a continuous failover and failback scenario? Any
 help would be greatly appreciated.

 I've just discovered Lawrence To's article on Graceful Switch Over and
 Switch back as well. The following from page 11 scares me:

 "Graceful switchover and switchback are not possible when the
 production database's online redo logs are not accessible.

 A graceful switchover and switch back is NOT possible whenever a
 production database or standby database executes one of the following:

 - alter database open resetlogs or
 - alter database activate standby database (which does an implicit
 resetlogs operation)"

 HUH??? There are certainly times when we have to do a resetlogs. One of
 the problems our Unix boxes have at the moment is a redo log corruption
 so there are not choices but to resetlogs. So what does this all mean?
 That if we resetlogs we can't ever have continuous failover and
 failback?

Yes, it is correct. If you reset logs or loose the redo logs, forget about "graceful 
switchover".

 ARGH!! What am I dealing with here!

 I need a holiday from this crazy scenario!

 Ok, please let me know if you've had any success with what I'm
 describing here. Am I aiming for the impossible? Surely not!


I am sorry to admit, but you are :-)
So far at 8.1.7 we have only the "graceful switchover", awfully well described in 
Lawrence To's article.

HTH,
Michael

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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Terry Ball

I'm open at 8 monday evening.  Sounds good to me.

Terry

Ari D Kaplan wrote:

 Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
 propose a time and place...

 Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
 Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
 hall until 7:45.

 So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
 and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
 http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
 views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
 priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
 town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
 talk.

 - Ari Kaplan

 On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:

  I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If anyone who 
knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.  As this is my first 
IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so it's up to all you "veterans".
 
  Keep this thread going.
 
 
  Stephen Andert
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
  don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number of
  the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of those
  sessions :)
 
  on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be sure
  of meeting others on the list there
 
 
  From: "Murali Vallath" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:30:43 -0800
  
  
  Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in
  Florida.
  
  I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
  
  Murali Vallath
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Re: Meeting at IOUG - LOCATION CONFIRMATION

2001-04-17 Thread Murali Vallath

Since I started this thread. Let me call for a closer. I think this 
suggestion is great. Let confirm this.

Murali Vallath

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Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
propose a time and place...

Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
hall until 7:45.

So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
talk.

- Ari Kaplan

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:

  I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If 
anyone who knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.  
As this is my first IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so 
it's up to all you "veterans".
 
  Keep this thread going.
 
 
  Stephen Andert
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
  don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number 
of
  the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of 
those
  sessions :)
 
  on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be 
sure
  of meeting others on the list there
 
 
  From: "Murali Vallath" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Meeting at IOUG
  Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:30:43 -0800
  
  
  Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in
  Florida.
  
  I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
  
  Murali Vallath
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RE: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Hillman, Alex

What is a "... Island" event? Looks like my e-mail system does not like
first word.

Alex Hillman

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Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
propose a time and place...

Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
hall until 7:45.

So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
talk.

- Ari Kaplan

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:

 I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If
anyone who knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.
As this is my first IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so
it's up to all you "veterans".
 
 Keep this thread going.  
 
 
 Stephen Andert
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
 don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number of

 the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of those

 sessions :)
 
 on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be
sure 
 of meeting others on the list there
 
 
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Meeting at IOUG
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 Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in
 Florida.
 
 I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
 
 Murali Vallath
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RE: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Hillman, Alex

thanks, but what the activities will be?

Alex Hillman

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Pleasure Island is one of the Disney resorts


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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:28:21 -0800

Anybody knows what is a Pleasure Island event?

Alex Hillman

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Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
propose a time and place...

Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
hall until 7:45.

So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
talk.

- Ari Kaplan

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:

  I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If
anyone who knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.
As this is my first IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so
it's up to all you "veterans".
 
  Keep this thread going.
 
 
  Stephen Andert
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
  don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number 
of

  the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of 
those

  sessions :)
 
  on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be
sure
  of meeting others on the list there
 
 
  From: "Murali Vallath" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Meeting at IOUG
  Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:30:43 -0800
  
  
  Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in
  Florida.
  
  I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
  
  Murali Vallath
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Re: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Bill Gentry

I love a good margarita (or two).  Sounds like a good idea.

Bill Gentry
DBA
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 Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to
 propose a time and place...

 Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure
 Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit
 hall until 7:45.

 So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan
 and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally).
 http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D
 views). My vote is Juan  Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately
 priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in
 town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can
 talk.

 - Ari Kaplan

 On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote:

  I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible.  If
anyone who knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great.
As this is my first IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so
it's up to all you "veterans".
 
  Keep this thread going.
 
 
  Stephen Andert
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM 
  don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number
of
  the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of
those
  sessions :)
 
  on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be
sure
  of meeting others on the list there
 
 
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  Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in
  Florida.
  
  I am attending and would like to join the meeting.
  
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Metalink error

2001-04-17 Thread Kirsh, Gary

Please forward tuning suggestions for the following problem to Oracle
Support.  It looks like they may still need a little help with Metalink!
Gary

Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:02:34 GMT

ORA-04031: unable to allocate 2550012 bytes of shared memory ("large
pool","unknown object","session heap","bind var buf")

  DAD name: plsql
  PROCEDURE  : ml2_gui.startup
  USER   : gsibd2
  URL: http://web120.us.oracle.com:80/metalink/plsql/ml2_gui.startup
  PARAMETERS :
  

  ENVIRONMENT:
  
PLSQL_GATEWAY=WebDb
GATEWAY_IVERSION=2
SERVER_SOFTWARE=Oracle HTTP Server Powered by Apache/1.3.12 (Unix)
ApacheJServ/1.1 mod_perl/1.24
GATEWAY_INTERFACE=CGI/1.1
SERVER_PORT=80
SERVER_NAME=web120.us.oracle.com
REQUEST_METHOD=GET
QUERY_STRING=
PATH_INFO=/metalink/plsql/ml2_gui.startup
SCRIPT_NAME=/metalink
REMOTE_HOST=
REMOTE_ADDR=208.168.16.140
SERVER_PROTOCOL=HTTP/1.0
REQUEST_PROTOCOL=HTTP
REMOTE_USER=
HTTP_CONTENT_LENGTH=
HTTP_CONTENT_TYPE=
HTTP_USER_AGENT=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
HTTP_HOST=metalink.oracle.com
HTTP_ACCEPT=*/*
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING=gzip, deflate
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE=en-us
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET=
HTTP_COOKIE=ORA_UCM_AGID=%2fMP%2f8MrVGNK%40Uk%40q%3f%3fBlBoFS
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Strange Oracle8 varchar2 behaviour.

2001-04-17 Thread Susan Trumpet

I am connected to an Oracle8 Database on Windows NT SP5, we have a table
with a column of datatype varchar2(4), however its length is reported as 5.
Any reason/s as to why this is happening? I have done a describe and a
select of the table below. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Susan.

Connected to:
Oracle8 Enterprise Edition Release 8.0.5.0.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 8.0.5.0.0 - Production

SQL desc instruments
 NameNull?Type
 ---  
 INSTR_ID VARCHAR2(18)
 INSTR_NUMBER VARCHAR2(4)
 INSTR_RECEIVEDDATE   DATE
 INSTR_ACTIVE CHAR(1)
 INSTR_DESCRIPTIONVARCHAR2(500)
 INSTR_AMENDRREVOCREFNO   VARCHAR2(10)
 INSTR_FILENETID  VARCHAR2(15)
 INSTR_TYPE   VARCHAR2(4)
 INSTR_TRANSIDVARCHAR2(18)
 INSTR_VERIFIED   CHAR(1)
 INSTR_VERIFIEDDATE   DATE
 INSTR_PAYMENTCHAR(1)

SQL select instr_id, instr_number, LENGTH(INSTR_NUMBER)
  2  from instruments
  3  where instr_id like 'BS19981972%';

INSTR_ID   INST LENGTH(INSTR_NUMBER)
--  
BS199819720046 D 005
BS199819721057 D 005
BS199819722068 D 005
BS199819723079 D 005
BS199819724080 D 005
BS199819725091 D 005
BS199819726002 D 005
BS199819727013 D 005
BS199819728024 D 005
BS199819729035 D 005

10 rows selected.

SQL
SQL

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RE: ADMIN: Off-Topic (was: RE: Do not belive BUSH and your army

2001-04-17 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: RE: ADMIN: Off-Topic (was: RE: Do not belive BUSH and your army





Yes, but who watches the watchdogs?


G


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== Bruce runs fatcity
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== no one was firednow, shut the hell up. 
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move schema away from system table space

2001-04-17 Thread lwm

Hi All,
I need to move a user/schema away from the system
tablespace to a newly created user tablespace. Could
somebody point me to the references on how to do the
job? Since a production server is running off the
schema, is it possible to do the move without having
to shut down the server?
Thanks a lot.
WL

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RE: Meeting at IOUG

2001-04-17 Thread Thater, William

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001,Hillman, Alex scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-Anybody knows if one need to rent a car there?
-
-Alex Hillman

if you are staying at the host hotels, then no... you can get anywhere
on the disney property via bus and fairly quickly.  if, lik me, you are
staying at a different disney hotel, you can still use the bus system to
get around, but they don't start running until 9AM so to get to the
morning stuff, you'll need to take a taxi.

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RE: warning glitches netiquette/ RE: ADMIN: Off-Topic (was: R

2001-04-17 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: 



In retrospect, I should have made my wink alot 
larger.Maybe like:

;-

well, that's about all for now. 


Those rotten Republican, F-8 flying, 
Chinese, Microsoft lovers can 
all go to heck in a 
handbasket!
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Message-== From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]== 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:17 PM== To: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L== Subject: warning glitches 
 "netiquette"/ RE: ADMIN:== Off-Topic (was: 
RE:== Do not belive MUSH and your 
"popcorn"== 
Comrads, amigos  kindred beings in this 
universe, 
(and/or other temporal/spatial/mystical/imaginal 
realities),== 
Well... no, er... maybe  who 
knows.? Bruce is the guy 
that owns Listguru/Fatcity. Oracle-L is== only one 
of== many lists operated by Listguru/Fatcity. 
Jared moved== Oracle-L to== 
Listguru/Fatcity a while ago, so Oracle-L is== 
(conceptually?) still== "owned" by Jared, but he relies 
on Bruce to enforce list== 
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more or less usual list rules (for== unmoderated 
lists)== that were carried over from the "old" 
Oracle-L== (@suny.edu) days, 
and== a few things along the lines of his own 
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(as "moderator", "owner", etc.) for several== years in a 
variety of different lists, some of which get quite== 
controversial, and having been threatened with 
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have== noticed that even when a 
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few== days, for it== to actually 
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mail== delivery lags on== some 
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RE: 32bit v. 64bit Oracle

2001-04-17 Thread Molina, Gerardo

Last I heard from Oracle was May 4th for release of 64-bit 817 for Solaris.

HTH
Gerardo

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Since we're talking 32 VS 64 bit, anybody know when
Oracle 817 64 bits we'll be available on Solaris ?

Oracle.store only shows Oracle 816 64 bit for Solaris.

If you do not need to adress a huge SGA, what are the
benefits are running Oracle 64bit instead of Oracle 32
bit ?


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a crit:  Connie,
 
 1st, can you have a 32 and 64 bit database on
 the same machine: Yes we've
 got two machines working that way with no problems.
 
 2nd, Can you migrate from 32 to 64 bit: Yes via
 exp/imp.  I've tried just
 mounting the database files with the 64 bit
 executables  the errors are not
 pretty.  It would appear that Oracle does not like
 the control file  the
 database file headers.
 
 Dick Goulet
 
 Reply
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 Can you upgrade an Oracle 8.0.5 32bit database on
 HPUX11 to Oracle 8.1.6
 64bit?
 
 Is is possible to have 8.0.5 32 bit and 8.1.6 64 bit
 on the same box if
 the box is 64 bit?
 
 If you wanted to restore a copy of production to dev
 and production was
 64 bit and dev was 32bit, would you still be able to
 do the restore
 (using Veritas Netbackup)?
 
 What are the advantages of being 64 bit versus 32
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RE: move schema away from system table space

2001-04-17 Thread John Lewis


1. Export the user's schema ( exp help=y )

2. issue in sqlplus:

drop user_name cascade;

3. then remake the user with the new table space as the default tablespace (
all permissions there - none elsewhere ).

4. imp the user from the export dump with ignore=y

regards -

john f. lewis

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Hi All,
I need to move a user/schema away from the system
tablespace to a newly created user tablespace. Could
somebody point me to the references on how to do the
job? Since a production server is running off the
schema, is it possible to do the move without having
to shut down the server?
Thanks a lot.
WL

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Re: server sizing

2001-04-17 Thread Don Jerman

And I'm just in the mood for a ramble, too...

We stayed with NT too, because we have the sysadmins and engineers already.  I
have a DB that sounds a lot like yours and it's running just fine on a dual p400
with a mirror for redo and archive log and a raid5 for the data files.  The real
problem with NT is the memory cap.  I couldn't get 4GB at the time of purchase,
so we can't use Enterprise server to skew the memory divide, and NT is gobbling
up half of my 2GB server.  That's fine for  100 users, but as we edge up we're
having to reduce buffer cache to avoid paging, which is bad (although admittedly
it's not affecting performance yet).  When the buying freeze lifts I'll
recommend the 4GB upgrade.  It wouldn't be so bad, except I had to install the
Java engine for this one, and it's taking a good quarter gigabyte.

I haven't found the RAID5 to be an operations hazard, though, except in
maintenance tasks.  Large imports, tablespace reorgs, index rebuilds and
sweeping updates suffer but so far the small stuff the application sends in is
absorbed by the cache and runs just fine.  Of course I'm only running about
10-20 write transactions a minute on the DB in question.  If that picks up I'll
be back to the funding well for more external arrays.

I (personally) would just buy more or better equipment if I needed the small
boost that raw partitions would give -- I like the hardware RAID and the OS
backup utilities too much to go the raw route.  Using more volumes is still a
good idea, if you can get them on different controllers, but for goodness' sake
don't bother partitioning a RAID.  More than 2 channels on a controller may
challenge your cache size or bus speeds, so multiple controllers is still a good
idea if you can saturate 2 channels.  Raid 0+1 makes a difference over raid 5 if
you have room in the rack for that many drives, and I'll certainly be doing that
if the projects that want the SAN pan out.  I keep everything redundant (no
raid0) on this class of box, though -- too many things can go wrong, and losing
your redo log volume takes your database down.

That reminds me of a story -- Last month one of my engineers noticed a warning
light that indicated one of the redundant power supplies in a storage array had
gone out.  He jiggled the power cable.  It was the wrong one...  The database
files were taken offline by that, but it was night and the DB was quiet and
fortunately that array had only half of the OS/logging mirror for that server,
so Oracle recovered after a quick shutdown-replace-reboot cycle.

You specified an upper bound of about 2 transactions per second, which should be
doable with an NT system with 300 users.  If you go much beyond 300 - 500,
however, you'll probably start running into memory/networking performance limits
on NT.  In general, you should consider UNIX systems for optimum performance.
NT has too many little gotchas like the lack of memory and process control.
Some, like limits on total memory and practical problems with number of
controllers, are related to the Intel architecture so you'll need to look past
Linux, although Linux can be a good half-step when your NT boxes start
underperforming.  In moving to Linux you'd get more available RAM and less OS
overhead, but you'll have to completely re-learn system administration and then
do it again (incrementally) when you hit the architecture limits, as Linux on
other-than-intel architectures is not supported by Oracle.

So if there's money I'd look at starting on NT since it's an easy step up, but
plan on developing or buying some Sun engineers (or HP, or other) by the time
you're ready for those upper limits. They can take you to Ludicrous Speed, but
for us mere mortals NT is a good starting point.

"Streeter, Lerone A LBX" wrote:

 I'm envisioning various levels of raid just wanted to get something out
 quick for some feedback.  for example, I'm thinking the data files, redo
 logs, arc log, and control files would be on differently combined disks.

 of course some file system recovery and redundancy is desired, but to what
 level should we go?  currently we've got a raid1 set w/ O/S and documents,
 raid5 with hot spares for our existing mssql DB, and the logs on separate
 raid5 set; wanted raid1 for mssql logs but other issues arose and we had to
 go w/ raid5.  this is very functional and suits our needs, failure coverage,
 low processor utilization, etc.  but with oracle I'd be very worried about
 running on a similarly built platform.

 I didn't even mention raw partitions, which were stressed as being a better
 scenario.  they offered the suggestion of multiple controllers with database
 files spread across drives and controllers, this method of "striping" being
 an alternative to raid.  I wasn't too comfortable with the thought of a
 server w/ raw partitions and no hardware redundancy/recovery implementation,
 but the performance/functionality benefits were highly praised.  so I
 thought maybe a mix, some raid10 or 01.

RE: Ability for non DBA user to kill session.

2001-04-17 Thread Steve Adams

Hi All,

Further to that, it is necessary to use DBMS_SQL or native dynamic SQL for this
as PL/SQL does not support ALTER SYSTEM directly.

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Create a procedure as SYS (or someone else powerful)
which does the 'alter system' and then grant just the
proc to the user

hth
connor

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 Is there a method for allowing a non DBA user to
 kill their own (and only
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 Metalink and have seen
 various methods (using procedures) of doing it but
 all of these appear to
 rely on granting the alter system role to the user.

 Oracle 8.0.5.0.0
 Compaq Tru64 4.0f

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RE: move schema away from system table space

2001-04-17 Thread Patricia Ashe

Best way is to use export/import utilities.  This can be done with server on
line and you will get all table data if done at quite time when table is not
being updated.  See Oracle Backup and Recovery Guide for info on exp/imp.  
PA
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Hi All,
I need to move a user/schema away from the system
tablespace to a newly created user tablespace. Could
somebody point me to the references on how to do the
job? Since a production server is running off the
schema, is it possible to do the move without having
to shut down the server?
Thanks a lot.
WL

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Java Programmer just getting started with Oracle......

2001-04-17 Thread tom panzarella

Hello.  I'm new to Oracle and am looking for some "guru" guidance on 
some resources to tap in order to get up to speed (preferrably quickly). 
  I'm a Java programmer looking to start getting into building 
applications backended by Oracle.  I am comfortable with Java (including 
JDBC) and SQL.  I have experience with other database systems (Progress, 
PostgreSQL, MySQL) but am a total newbie to Oracle.  I'm not looking to 
become an Oracle DBA but as an application programmer there is certainly 
some level of DBA skills needed as well as an overall understanding of 
how the backend system works in order to do my job affectively.

I recently read and did all associated exercises in the "Oracle8i for 
Linux Starter Kit" which definitely gave me a nice overview and hands on 
practice of using the Oracle system.  The book was good as a "starter 
kit" (just as the title states) and now I am looking to get some more 
depth.  My questions to the list are:

1.  How much of an "Oracle DBA" do I need to be in order to write 
affective applications using Oracle and Java?

2.  Any good books that you would recommend (that you have read)?  I 
have thought that my next purchase would be "Oracle DBA 101":
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0072121203vm=

or

"Oracle Essentials: Oracle8 and Oracle8i":
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/oressentials/

I am assuming that after getting somewhat more familiar with Oracle and 
the basics of Oracle Administration, a good book to move on to would be 
the big fat Wrox Press book on Oracle8i Application Programming:

http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=1861004842vm=


Any advice or comments that you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
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(Fwd) Tar # 1339336.996:run all on one win2000 box: OEM, DB, Forms web server

2001-04-17 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Larry  folks,

Still not sure what it all means!

They don't seem to be able to answer specifically on Forms *Server* 
for some reason. I'll continue asking tomorrow.

regards,
ep


--- Forwarded message follows ---

 1339336.996
   Open Date
 14-APR-01 00:45:05
  Support Identifier 
 xxx
   Last Update
 17-APR-01 20:08:12
  Product
 Oracle Server
 - Enterprise
 Edition
   Product Version  
 8.1.7
  Platform
 MS Windows 2000

  Abstract
  
  run all on one win2000 box: OEM, DB, Forms web server ? 


  Resolution History 
  
  14-APR-01 00:45:06 GMT


...

  ### Please describe your problem:###
  Can all three run on one win2000 box: 
  OEM, DB, Forms web server ?

What I need is a statement elaborating on the same issues 
  as raised in tar #123 1449.996

 My recollection of what I was told on the phone during discussion
  of the issues in tar #123 1449 .996 was that as of db v 8.1.7,
  it is not possible torun the db and forms web server on the same
  win2000 box. 

  I hope I'm not confusing something, e.g., what was actually said
  previously was that you [*]can't[*] run the db v 8.1.7 and *OEM* on the 
  same win2000 box.
  Please provide info on pertinent notes, white papers, etc., if 
  possible.
  Thanks!
  Eric
  email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (or phone 916-278-7586 if that is easier/ more appropriate)

  ### If you are receiving errors, please list exact error messages and text:###
  giant juicy chocolate chip peanut butter cookies!!!

...

  ### What is the impact to your business becauseof this problem? ###
  planning

  Contact me via : E-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED]




---
  14-APR-01 01:26:16 GMT


  I think for the forms server / database running on the same box , the best group to 
talk to 
  would be the forms group.

  xfr dataserver - forms



---
  15-APR-01 06:07:51 GMT


  Forms 6.0.8.10.3 (Patch 1), 6.0.8.11.3 (Rel 2), 6.0.8.12.1(Patch 3A), 6.0.8.13, 
(Patch 4) are certified
  for 

  windows 2000. forms 6.0.8.12.1 (Patch 3) has been withdrawn for the 8.1.7 database. 
The check any
  other

  certified products for oracle you can go to metalink.oracle.com Then go to product 
lifcycle and
  certifications

  the verify and product certifications for any platform.

  @scl




---
  16-APR-01 19:03:12 GMT

  New info : Uh can somone explain how that "answer" was related
  to the original question (see subject line), or what it
  means otherwise?
  Better yet, please look up the name of the analyst who
  called me on tar #1231449.996, and have her contact me
  again to clarify the issue. 
  Thanks,
  Eric
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ph# (916) 278-7586



---
  17-APR-01 15:21:34 GMT


  Your tar has been assigned to an analyst


---

  17-APR-01 18:50:28 GMT

  OEM 2.2 and 8.1.7 enterprize editions can live together on the same machine in the 
same Oracle_home.
  Developer 6i can reside on the same machine but has to be installed into a seperate 
oracle home.
  Intelegent agent comes with 8.1.7 and does not need to be installed from OEM.

  Hope this helps.


---
  17-APR-01 19:33:08 GMT

  New info : Thanks for letting me know that OEM and DB can run on the same box.

  I don't think I would want to run Developer6i (to develop a form) 
on the same 
  server box, but I would want to use the "webified" version of such a form on 
  the same box.

  So, part of the original question remains: can the Forms *web* server run on 
  the same box as DB (/or OEM)?

  In the previous tar, I was told (verbally) that it is *not* possible to run the 
  equivalent of WebDB and DB8.1.7on the same box, but I wanted "written" 
  clarification of that point.

  As you might notice if you read the previous tar on this subject, I'm not 
  currently using these products (and therefor may not be using the precise 
  terminology that Oracle Tech Support is comfortable with), we are doing design 
  and capacity planning for a small application, and I want to know 
if I will 
  need more than one NT server to implemented a "webified" database/forms 
  implementation, v8.1.7.

  My recollection is that with DB8.1.6, and earlier, with WebDB/etc., it was 
  possible to run on one server box, but that as of DB8.1.7, the product that
  replaces WebDB (OiAS) can *NOT* run on the same box as the DB/OEM.
  I need some oneto tell me if that is correct, or not, or to request additional 
  clarification.
  Thanks,
  Eric
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Re: Locally Managed Tablespaces

2001-04-17 Thread Stephen Andert

Patricia, 

FWIW, We have been using them for several months now and have not seen anything 
negative as a result.  We decided to start using them for all new tablespaces and we 
add a new set of tablespaces every month to accomodate our partitioning strategy.

Our biggest databases that we are doing this with are over 200MB on Compaq Tru64. 
Database version was 8.1.6.0 and we have moved to 8.1.6.2 with no noted problems.  

Good luck.

Stephen 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17 4:35 PM 

I am interested in some statistics on Oracle locally managed tablespaces.  I
have been looking for any bugs or negative info about them.  Are they in use
at alot of sites?  Seems like all the information I have come across is
positive. Which is great!  But maybe they aren't being used at alot of
sites.  Can I hear about experiences from others on this list?  how many
sites are actually using them?
I have several databases that I am getting ready to go production soon and
would like to create the tablespaces as locally managed, but need more
statistics.

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Synonym on Standby Database

2001-04-17 Thread Richard Lau


Has anyone tried to use their standby database as a read-only database 
through db links and mapped to synonyms?  I'm having problems creating one 
(12145 e.g.) and am now wondering whether it is even possible.  This is to 
alleviate the downtime in the event of single table failures in production 
and have the app point to the standby for reading while we fix it.  The 
application is coded to transparently handle the write errors.

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Re: ADMIN: Off-Topic (was: RE: Do not belive BUSH and your army

2001-04-17 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 17 April 2001 12:15, Mohan, Ross wrote:
 Wow, I guess Jared was fired, eh?

 ;-

Hardly.  Of course, I must consider the source of this comment.

Jared

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