Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-26 Thread Hemant K Chitale
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RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-26 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ? Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity to question me :) I think we agree on extents sizes not being changed after the event so it is now a discussion on whether

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-26 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Yes, I think I need to test it for myself and see what I get. As for the busy table in a production environment [24x7, so there's no time to rebuild the table normally], I've put in a request for 30minutes downtime [I am allowed an occassional 15 to 30 minutes every two months] to rebuild the

Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-26 Thread Alan Davey
ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ? Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity to question me :) I think we agree on extents sizes not being changed after the event so it is now

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-25 Thread Hemant K Chitale
earlier, I think. Yes, what you state is correct. Jraed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/2002 09:08 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Is the effect of modifying

Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-25 Thread Alan Davey
: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ? Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity to question me :) I think we agree on extents sizes not being changed after the event so it is now a discussion on whether changes to a pctfree/pctused are retrospective. I contend

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-25 Thread John . Hallas
Hemant wrote Therefore, to reduce the contention for the hot blocks, I decide to have only 1 row in each block. Normally, with a *NEW* table, PCTFRE 99 and PCTUSED 1 would ensure that I have only 1 row per block. But if I have a large number of blocks in a few extents created when PCTFREE was

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread John . Hallas
No, it is not retrospective. You are setting parameters to be used when the next extent is created. A better example is when setting next extent size to be different than the existing extent size (dictionary managed tablespaces only). It does not alter all the existing extents it only works on

Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread Jared Still
Are you sure about that John? On Tuesday 24 September 2002 04:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it is not retrospective. You are setting parameters to be used when the next extent is created. A better example is when setting next extent size to be different than the existing extent size

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread John . Hallas
Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity to question me :) I think we agree on extents sizes not being changed after the event so it is now a discussion on whether changes to a pctfree/pctused are retrospective. I contend that if a table is fully loaded upto its pctfree/pctused limits

Re: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread paquette stephane
I'm not sure either as I am rereading a document by Craig Shallamaher where he is saying to change pctused and pctfree in order to reduce data block fragmentation. I have to test that. At my new job, the DBAs are doing massive export/import to reduce fragmentation... (with their dictionnary

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread Jared . Still
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RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread paquette stephane
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RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread paquette stephane
John, You are right, I just find out note 1029850.6 on metalink : A block is relinked to a free list if after DELETE or UPDATE operations, the percentage of the used space falls below PCTUSED. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity to

RE: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ?

2002-09-24 Thread Jared . Still
: Is the effect of modifying PCTFREE/PCTUSED immediate ? Well I was sure about it until you had the temerity to question me :) I think we agree on extents sizes not being changed after the event so it is now a discussion on whether changes to a pctfree/pctused are retrospective. I contend