[OGD] DNA -based Tax

2005-06-14 Thread ROY LEE
Peter, thank you for your posting on the list. This type of reply makes it worth while asking questions on this list. I fully understand what you have said. Sorting out large groups orchids is a good thing and is definitely required but it seems that some in the orchid world ( not on this list

[OGD] cut flowers for judging

2005-06-14 Thread Rforchids
It's possible, yes... we do it from time to time. You need to plan ahead a little, at least to have the necessary supplies on hand. These include a box large enough to accommodate the inflorescence with plenty of room to spare, so that packing (and possibly insulating) materials can be added. You

[OGD] Some cypripedium and unknow orchids(try again)

2005-06-14 Thread Ray
hi forums sorry for the dead links last time , and thanks Steve and Marcin for the inform. i will try to post them again and make sure the links will work fine this time, and add another new found unknow but very beauitful Den.spp(or nature hybrid) to be IDed Cyp. bardolphianum

[OGD] RE: Cut flowers/judging

2005-06-14 Thread K Barrett
Anyone have any idea what Fuchs or the old guard used to do it preserve their cut inflorescences until judging time? Since I haven't looked into trying to preserve flowers for judging and don't know about the restrictions of chemicals please forgive me if it is against rules, but what about

[OGD] Re: Commercial spam

2005-06-14 Thread Carl Gustafson
Regarding Mr Pond trying to Flog his Phrags, how come we're getting commercial spam printed in full on this digest ? (Check his header). Much as it pains me to agree with anything Peter O'Byrne writes, I have to. Especially flogging phrags, a group notorious for problematic shipping

Re: [OGD] RE: Cut flowers/judging

2005-06-14 Thread Steve Topletz
You could also try silver thiosulfate, and while you may not have a problem in the rulebooks, you might be violating something with the epa. ST Anyone have any idea what Fuchs or the old guard used to do it preserve their cut inflorescences until judging time? Since I haven't looked into

[OGD] Re: commercial spam

2005-06-14 Thread DennisWestler
In a message dated 6/14/05 3:01:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Regarding Mr Pond trying to Flog his Phrags, how come we're getting commercial spam printed in full on this digest ? (Check his header). Peter O'Byrne in Singapore In the spirit of charity, I will assume

[OGD] back home

2005-06-14 Thread Juli
dear folks Now that I am back in ccs and my babies are safe I would like to say MUCHAS GRACIAS to those who have answered my queries about you know what (I have been advised not the mention any names!) julie ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD)

[OGD] Ethylene

2005-06-14 Thread ahicks51
Steve Topletz [EMAIL PROTECTED] spaketh thusly: You could also try silver thiosulfate, and while you may not have a problem in the rulebooks, you might be violating something with the epa. Commercially, potassium permanganate is used to preserve flowers through oxidation of ethylene. The

[OGD] Cut flowers

2005-06-14 Thread Bell-Games, Tom
Well, this brief discussion of cut flowers for judging came a couple of weeks too late for me. We just had our annual show and I had brought in a cutting of Cyp. reginae just to dress up our plant registration table. I brought this particular inflorescence because I thought it was unusual to have

[OGD] Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 7, Issue 302

2005-06-14 Thread Dr. Braem
Message: 4 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:59:19 +0800 From: Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OGD] Some cypripedium and unknow orchids?try again? To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi forums and is this Cyp.tibeticum? From the

Re: [OGD] Ethylene

2005-06-14 Thread dewitt
Commercially, potassium permanganate is used to preserve flowers through oxidation of ethylene. The reactions are given here: http://www.sorbentsystems.com/epaxtech.html Permanganate is capable of staining almost anything it touches a coffee-colored brown. I suspect the ethylene

[OGD] Preserving flowers

2005-06-14 Thread Colin.Hamilton
Since I haven't looked into trying to preserve flowers for judging and don't know about the restrictions of chemicals please forgive me if it is against rules, but what about using a product called 'ethyl-bloc'? It's used to hold the bottom leaves on easter lilies and the flowers of many plants

[OGD] Dockrillia vs Dendrobium

2005-06-14 Thread Steven K Beckendorf
Roy Lee wrote: They use their renown etc to bluff their way forward. A lot of work was done on the Aust' Nat' dends separating out some into the Dockrillia section. Down the track we find that this conclusion is not quite right and the plants have gone back to dendrobium. When and why did

[OGD] SEC: UNCLASSIFIED:-Names etc

2005-06-14 Thread Paul . Wheeler
Roy; I've gotta agree with your whole post there mate. When the Dockrillias were separated from dendrobium there was very little, if any resistance to that change. Why? Because it made perfect sense! The plants looked nothing like a dendrobium, the flowers bore a fleeting resemblance although they

Re: [OGD] Aa genus

2005-06-14 Thread MGOrchids
In a message dated 6/14/05 6:55:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Charles Ufford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OGD] Re: what's in a name, and preserving flowers on 6/13/05 8:57 PM,Michael wrote: I see a couple of objections to this but perhaps most importantly is that

[OGD] Info on yellow form of Phal. lobbii?

2005-06-14 Thread MGOrchids
A couple of months ago I bought several plants of what are supposed to be a yellow form of Phal. lobbii from Best of Thai Orchids. (It's labelled "var. brunescens" for what that might be worth, but the guy was very clear about it being a "yellow" form.) I've found a couple of photos on the web of

[OGD] Permanganate

2005-06-14 Thread Aaron J. Hicks
dewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] spaketh thusly: Commercially, potassium permanganate is used to preserve flowers through oxidation of ethylene. The reactions are given here: http://www.sorbentsystems.com/epaxtech.html Permanganate is capable of staining almost anything it touches a

[OGD] What's in a name?

2005-06-14 Thread John Varigos
I was checking some references for Vandas on the Kew Monocots checklist ( http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/monocotChecklist/default.jsp ) and couldn't find Vanda coerulea when I typed it in. When I looked up Vanda it appeared but was spelt Vanda caerulea. Also, Vanda coerulescens was spelt as Vanda

[OGD] Dockrillia

2005-06-14 Thread David P Banks
Roy Lee wrote: They use their renown etc to bluff their way forward. A lot of work was done on the Aust' Nat' dends separating out some into the Dockrillia section. Down the track we find that this conclusion is not quite right and the plants have gone back to dendrobium. Followed by the

[OGD] Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 7, Issue 303

2005-06-14 Thread ROY LEE
To Paul, thanks for the Back-up. There has to be a point where common sense takes over. As for the judges at ANOS, I dont know many or all of them but to not judge an orchid because of an incorrect name is bad. If they had any mind at all they would have corrected the name for the exhibitor as a

[OGD] New e-mail address.

2005-06-14 Thread Peter van Est
From 20 /6 we will have a new e-mail address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please change your addresslist. Thanks. Regards, Peter and Laurina. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com

[OGD] cut flowers for judging

2005-06-14 Thread Dinesh Fernando
It's possible, yes... we do it from time to time. ... Julie R.F. Orchids -- You could also try silver thiosulfate, and while you may not have a problem in the rulebooks, you might be violating something with the epa. ST Julie, Steve, Thank you very much

[OGD] orchids of importance - Apostasia, Neuwiedia, et al.

2005-06-14 Thread Brian O'Brien
The orchids (species of Apostasia and Neuwiedia) that are considered to be most evolutionarily primitive seem to me to be at least of comparable intellectual interest to those that are studied because they are of conventional horticultural interest (e.g. Phalaenopsis and groups of species