Hi there, firstly, this is a test message to check I am on the list (and
using it correctly), and secondly, I have a (maybe stupid) question...
We are presently using jBoss as our app server, but after looking at the
Orion spec, I am quite interested about Orion, due to its clustering
support.
This is a little off topic...
I am developing an app where there will be some xml-files generated. I want
the user to save these to his hard drive. The problem is that Internet
Exploder always displays xml. Is there some MIME type or some trick to make
Exploder pop up a "save as dialog"
Title: SV: Deploy question...
Yes, you can deploy your applications without packaging them.
The file structure would be just as if it were an packaged application.
Normaly, you would put the folder structure under .../orion/applications/
Check the docs for more info.
This list also contains
Hi,
I search for a exactly same solution.
We discussed one suggestion: what about storing DataSource-Information in the
security credentials of the caller. It should be possible to access this
Information from the entity-layer.
I am very interested on that topic
Michael
No, but you can use HTTP tunneling for that purpose
http://www.orionserver.com/docs/rmi-http-tunneling.txt
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From: Mohit Palhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:46 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: does the loadbalancer of Orion listens
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Thankyou for making our decision for us. Orion will not be our
choice of J2EE platform, as our evaluation has shown that its users
are rude and obnoxious. We have decided that it would not be in our
best interest to be associated with people of
Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
appreciated.
I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost ready to crack and
'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a fair whack from
it just recently. Some people react like bulldogs, and some people
Hi, Cliff.
I don't remember what it was; honestly, remember that this is a voluntary
forum, and as such, sometimes things get overlooked. There's no monitor
saying "Someone needs to acknowledge poster XYZ." We try to be helpful -
people here do a LOT, if you ask me - but sometimes things happen.
Cliff, being cynical... it doesn't matter to us. If you think that a user
community is reponsible for your issues, that's great! You're in deep
trouble, and you're just going to get stuck with a less efficient
platform. No skin off of our noses - we'll have competitive advantages.
Pointless
Title: SV: Security between applications?
Turning back to the original msg..
One obious option would be to set it up so that each application has a unique ID and that this ID is used whenever referecing tables. I.E including this id in all entities. I guess this is not the option you want?
does ms access work with Orion
?
Title: SV: Security between applications?
No,
your answer is perfect - my aim was to try to be able to specify which
applications can access particular datasources. Now I know that it is not
possible using the defined mechanisms, I can move on to find another
solution.
Thankyou *very* much
K.
Granted I am not distributing XML so I set the content type to
"application/zip", but the trick to get the SAVE AS dialog for me was the
Content-Dispostion header. My code (in a servlet) goes something like
this...
response.setContentType("application/zip");
The most important thing to remember here (also the second and third most
important) is that this is a user group. Nobody here is anyone else's
support line, and the second anyone starts assuming that, yes, hackles will
be raised.
Most people on this list seem to be very professional - there is
Don't know if it works, but test setting the content type to application/xml
or something,...?
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From: "Konstantin Polyzois" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:34 AM
Subject: MIME-types [off topic]
This is
If you don't get your answer within 2-3 days, people don't know the answer.
If that is the case, try to get in contact with Magnus Rydin or someone else
in the Orion team. I know it is very difficult to get in touch with them,
and I guess time zone differences are making it worse, but if you do
I doubt I'm doing the deploy stuff correctly and professional way, but it
works perfectly...
Answer to B:
unzip downloaded file from orionserver.com ( latest stable). Copy tools.jar
to orion directory. Enter config directory, edit data-sources.xml to use
your database, make sure to copy driver
Title: SV: Last posting
Whoa!
Hold your mails! Hold your mails!
Im just a contributor like the rest of you :)
WR
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Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 05:17
Till: Orion-Interest
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If
Cliff:
I have been on this list for several months, and I have found the list police,
helpful, and useful. The only time I have seen this list react negatively is in a
defensive stance, where some user has started a non polite stance. For example,
someone once asked how they can get off
The EJB 2.0 support is a big unknown, but they have to have it in order to compete.
Orion has preliminary support for it, Jboss (www.jboss.org) will have preliminary
support in a month or two with 2.1, and openejb (www.openejb.org) is building their
product line around it. Since they are
Orion is certainly competitive and may even be a better product (personally, I think
it's an excellent product). However, developers need to obtain funding from
management, who sometimes don't know what an EJB is. When I point out these issues,
like the support and documentation the
That aint no stupid question, Orion application deployment has been very
difficult for me. It's not like IIS where you create your virtual directory
and drop in your files accordingly, map it to an ip and it works!
S
It's not clear looking through the documentation how much of EJB 2.0 Orion
currently supports. Specifically, I am interested in using CMP and EJB QL
to do advanced queries of a multi-table database. Best I can understand the
current technology, I have 2 choices: 1) use findAll() a lot and
I have tried the java compiler that comes with Forte For Java CE 2.0
(fastjavac) and it cut the deployment time of 50 EJB (a mix of
entity and sessions) from 1 minute to 15 secs!
I'm developing under win 2k, orion 1.3.8.
Some one can test it under unix?
My 2 cents
Of course, IIS is also using fundamentally different technology with
fundamentally different approach. For me, application deployment is
absurdly simple: I drop in a file, create a mapping to the application,
then point a url to the application, and it works. Oh, wait, that's pretty
much what you
Hello faisal,
If you use the jdbc.odbc bridge, yes.
But, why do you want to use Ms Access (just curiosity)
Wednesday, February 14, 2001, 11:55:05 PM, you wrote:
f does ms access work with Orion
f ?
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Best regards,
Rafaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is ms
access considered an RDMS and does it have a JDBC driver? If so, then it
should be theoretically possible to have it work with Orion. But why
would you want to do this? A better solution would be to work with
something like Postgresql (www.postgresql.org) orMysql (www.mysql.com), if
It seems to me that Orion does not yet support EJB-QL neither EJB 2.0
many-to-many relationships.
However, if you are interested in EJB 2.0 and finders, you may have a look
at http://www.orionsupport.com/.
Giustino De Vincentiis
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Da: Marc Rabil [mailto:[EMAIL
U don't need to build ear every time to test
application
In your application.xml write
module
web
web-uriSOME_DIR-web/web-uri
context-root//context-root
/web /module
so you will get:
APPLICATION-DIR/
META-INF/
Application.xml
SOME_DIR-web/
your_ejb_here
I use Ant for ejb
WOW... Is this still the Orion List I'm on? I didn't know we changed to a
Men's group. Anyone want to rest their head on my shoulder? (Ok now I
asked for it. For my next question I expect the flames will burn high)
Come on folks we all take a beating at some point as rookies and as
Securing datasources is no match for Weblogic. I do not know how Orion
handles this.
/korre
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From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 13 februari 2001 20:09
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Security between applications?
Greetings,
We are currently
All,
I'm working the product demo and have apparently encountered a bit of
difficulty with deployment. I'm using the steps defined for product
demo (http://www.orionserver.com/docs/ejbexamples/) and am seeing two
things that aren't right (below). Also, I've set up a new Oracle
datasource
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Weblogic is next on the list, the only problem being that I am
funding this entirely myself until we have a solid enough
presentation to try for investment (and one of my own machines is
looking more like a colo every day :\). We're not giving up
Nick:
Don't feel stupid here. The biggest issue I have with Orion is the terrible
documentation. Granted, we can play with it (like I and others did), but newcomers
need to be encouraged to use it, and get up to speed. I have seen the new Jboss
manual from their site (www.jboss.org) and
Hey guys,
If you have Orion and ZoneAlarm installed on Windows 2000 and are getting
the blue screen of death when you try to access Orion's home on your
browser, it may help to install ZoneAlarm's latest release (2.144). I just
read the "Important Information" blurb that you get when you
I'm trying to get Orion to work on a stand-alone machine without a network
connection except for dial-up access. Every time I start orion it tries to
connect using the dial-up networking. If I cancel it, it will start, but it
takes about 5 minutes. If I'm already on-line, start-up only takes
Thank's to Roger Mosher! This works...
/korre
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From: Roger Mosher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 15 februari 2001 13:43
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: MIME-types [off topic]
K.
Granted I am not distributing XML so I set the content type to
Cliff:
Sometimes, when things get heated up, you need to just step back before emotion
overrules you. The fact that you are using the Resin/ Jboss combination says a lot
about your good taste and wise judgment. But once something emotional is put into
print, people get offended, and start
Two
other free RDMS's are:
1. Interbase (http://www.interbase.com) - originally developed by
Borland, now open source. I am using this product in a commercial
environment. It is a bit unstable on Linux, but runs great on
Win2000. This DB has a JDBC client. This is a cross platform
DB.
2.
There
is a package that comes with JDK1.3 called "sun.jdbc.odbc", use diver located in
that package.
First
u need to configure ODBC DataSource on your server, its located in Control
Panel.
Then u
can use "sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver" to connect to it. If you are using it
with Orion, i
I'm at a company where we are currently using IIS (hopefully for not much
longer!) and although it is initially easier to setup a *single* server with
a number of virtual directories it is a real pain if you have a decently
large server farm that you are going to have to replicate this
pilot error, never mind. It's working fine now. Thanks
_
Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com
Funny guy! Where do you map the IP to an application? I am having confusion
in that in IIS/ASP the web site is the web application. In J2EE I think
there is potentially a difference? Or am I wrong with this too?
Stefan
I've surfed and surfed, and can't find any info on the problem I'm having.
HELP!
All brand new:
Red Hat Linux v7, Sun J2EE 1.2.1, Sun JDK1.3, Orion 1.4.5
[geoff@daphne orion]$cd /usr/local/orion
[geoff@daphne orion]$ java -jar orion.jar
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
I appreciate the support, I realise that Orion is not charging huge CASH$
and as such is more limited as to the support they can provide. But, I think
that providing details on application deployment to make it easy for people
would go a long way to getting the server on the map and making the
Title: SV: Not authorized to view this page
I
found the problem, it seem that the global-web-application.xml supplied in the
tutorial didn't have an entry for html, I added it. Also had to rename index.htm
to index.html, a little disapointing to have these hassles considering that were
I need to deny access to our orion ejb application from external IP
addresses.
I know about firewall options I have, but wish to know how to do this at IP
level.
is there any files that I can modify so that the orion web server only
services request from specific internal IP addresses?
tia
Title: SV: Last posting
If I
might put up an impassioned plea at this point (on behalf of Marcus, myself and
anyone else who regularly gets Orion support questions in their personal inbox)
DO NOT
SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO ANYONE'S PERSONAL ADDRESS WITHOUT ASKING
THEM
Keep
your questions
Thanksman! I really appreciate your
reply
It is working fine now
Respect
faisal
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From:
Patrik Andersson
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:18
PM
Subject: RE: jdbc:leaked connection
The
problem can occur if you use code
Thankto all of u guys
I have not been using BMP before and when i tried
ms access it gave me a hard time though i works sometimes
Thanks to your advice I am going to try MySQl for
the moment
Respect
what a Great e-mailing list
faisal
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Thomas
I agree with all the points you mentioned. That is why I am here, we want to
move away form IIS as well.
Stefan
That didn't help for me. I have since switched to Tiny Personal
Firewall and like it alot.
Al Heinrichs wrote:
Hey guys,
If you have Orion and ZoneAlarm installed on Windows 2000 and are getting
the blue screen of death when you try to access Orion's home on your
browser, it may help to
ello,
Sure it does. Just use JDBC-ODBC driver. Here is an example data-source
entry:
data-source
class="com.evermind.sql.DriverManagerDataSource"
name="Workflow"
location="jdbc/WorkflowCoreDS"
xa-location="jdbc/xa/WorkflowXADS"
Title: RE: Orion doesn't work.
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)
^
You appear to be running
Nono, to clarify - send your questions to the list, NOT to individuals.
-mike
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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:38 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Last posting
Well, if we can't
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Looks like you need to add the directory containing 'com/evermind/.' to
the classpath
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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Orion doesn't work.
I've surfed and surfed, and can't find
Hi,
Anyone uses Log4j with Orion? Think of providing logging facilites for both
web and ejb components.
What's the good way to specify a PropertyConfigurator?
Thanks for any info.
Regards
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hello,
we've been running into "out of memory" problems recently.
we are deploying about 10-12 BMP EJBs and after a few minutes of intensive
querying the database, we run out of memory. seems like the EJB does not
passivate or the GC is not doing it's job, although i've tried to null all
the
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Have you tried increasing the memory given to the JVM? Try java -?
-mike
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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Orion Server running out of memory fast!
hello,
we've been running into "out of memory" problems recently.
we are deploying about 10-12 BMP EJBs and after a few minutes of intensive
querying the database, we run out of memory. seems like the EJB does not
passivate or the GC is not doing it's job, although i've tried to null all
the
Well, not to rant here, but your first mistake is using mysql... it's not
designed for ejb/transaction work even though it's been recently kludged to
apparently do that. The second might be a leaky mysql jdbc driver (yes, this
is a known fact). The third might be in your code, and lastly it could
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Thanks,But i want a step by step setup document,who can help
me?
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The problem is not that simple. There's a bug.
We then ran a test program that creates a simple entity bean in an infinite
loop and then releases the reference of this entity bean. We ran a profiler
on the VM and counted the memory instances. The server keeps the beans in a
list, so the GC cant
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Konstantin Polyzois wrote:
I am developing an app where there will be some xml-files generated. I want
the user to save these to his hard drive. The problem is that Internet
Exploder always displays xml. Is there some MIME type or some trick to make
Exploder pop up a
Indeed
We then ran a test program that creates a simple entity bean in an infinite
loop and then releases the reference of this entity bean. We ran a profiler
on the VM and counted the memory instances. It turns out that
even though memory seems to be running out, orion does not passivate the
Sounds good, but WHERE does these parameters go? I include a snippit of my
orion-ejb-jar.xml file...
entity-deployment name="ejb/ActualBankControl"
location="ejb/ActualBankControl"
wrapper="ActualBankControlHome_EntityHomeWrapper78"
table="ejb/ActualBankControl"
"Hee Meng, Poh" wrote:
Hi,
Anyone uses Log4j with Orion? Think of providing logging facilites for both
web and ejb components.
What's the good way to specify a PropertyConfigurator?
Thanks for any info.
Regards
I am using both tools. You have to remember that EJB are kind of
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