Hi,
I'm evaluating different tools for developing J2EE apps with Orion. So, I'm
asking this excellent list which tools that supports Orion regarding
deployment, debugging and so forth.
I know that Kawa Enterprise 5.0 with SP1 do, but maybe there are other ones
that work as fine as Kawa does
Hi,
the SP1 contains all the settings for Orion.
Thanks a lot all that helped my out.
From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Kawa 5.0 Ent and Orion 1.4.7
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:35:18 -0400
I
I love the enthusiasm, but I'm concerned about the solution. The
orionsupport.com site is run and maintained by a small group of people with
exactly the same ideas as those being expressed on this list. Let's not
create splinter groups which start with a huge burst of enthusiasm and then
I'm in the same boat. JBoss didn't work for us, too slow.
JRun is crap. So we are moving to Borland (Inprise).
I used IAS in a project last year that never got deployed. I thought it was
great.
Very fast, Built on a true CORBA foundation, and very, I mean VERY good
support.
I have not yet
Mike:
I do agree with all the concern about Orion's lack of response. I think
that three good developers created a great product, but didn't give much
thought into how to market, support, and document it, should it reach a good
level of success. I suppose we should ask this question:
Is
Mike:
So many tools, it's hard to keep track. Jbuilder, Kawa, Ultraedit, Ant, ejbdoclet,
Bugseeker. I am sure I missed some.
Randy
-Original Message-
From: Kalle Anka
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: 4/13/01 1:32 AM
Subject: IDE tools and Orion
Hi,
I'm evaluating different tools for
Hello,
I have still problems getting orion to work with unicode
characters. Here is a jsp page that behaves differently
on different platforms. Could you please help me to find
a way to make it platform independent.
I know that unicode is not something most of you should
pay attention to right
From: Kemp Randy-W18971
To: 'Mike Sick '; 'Orion-Interest '
Cc:
Subject: RE: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD! - What we have here is a failure to
communicate ...
Sent: 4/13/01 9:22 AM
Importance: Normal
Mike:
I do agree with all the concern about
Title: RE: productive comment.
Isn't OrionSupport already registered and up and running (well sort of) why not incorporate thee new ideas onto this already existing and well publicized site? Is orionsupport.com not willing to accept community suggestions? It seems to me that if
Great point. However, we can help expand on the functionality at
orionsupport. But then there's that *paid* support issue. Companies need a
place to go so they can *pay* for support when the chips are down, and the
alligators are crawling around nipping at their tender parts.
The great thing
Kalle:
I'm curious, when you say developing J2EE apps, what is the nature of the
application(s) you are developing? Are you looking for Java IDE's with
helpers for servlet, EJB, and/or JSP component development? Or are you
looking for an IDE that supports the full life-cycle of web application
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 05:40:56PM -0700, Hitesh Patel wrote:
does orion support W3C Extended Format (like IIS)?
http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-logfile.html
if not, what can I do to change it?
Submit a RFE (Request For Enhancement) to
http://www.orionserver.com/bugzilla/.
Markus
--
Markus
Hi Taavi,
I have encountered a problem that sounds related to yours. I tried to make
japanese characters ailable on a page (although I don't expect japanese
input), and set
META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=euc-jp"
before some unicode output - which I copied from a
Yes to all your questions below.
I sent the message to let the folks that run OrionSupport and IronFlare know
two things:
1) the net is world wide and runs (thrives!) on active content. It wants
change and 24/7/365 (or nine-nines or whatever your favorite availability
metaphor) availability
can anyone help correct thisconfiguration
that so that it would be professionally correct as a j2ee
configuration?
!--StartFragment server.xml
--application-server
application-directory="../applications"
Dear All,
I would like to be able to deploy an .ear remotely (the servers run FreeBSD,
some of the development workstations use Windows). I found that admin.jar
can do this, and that the new application is indeed uploaded to the server.
It is not automatically deployed in place of the old one.
Joe, elephantwalker, et.al.
I was going to do a 'me too!' followed by a listing, but that may not be
list-appropriate (MYOWN_PERSONAL_RULE: if you have the question: Is this
SPAM? ASK THE LIST!)
So, how do we do this, and not offend the users of the list (our budding
community)?
My response
'access' to the dev team? You mean that if you think its a bug then you
should be able to get on the phone with developers as if they were tech
support people? Whats wrong with Bugzilla and a quick development team?
-Original Message-
From: elephantwalker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
We have developed a web application with our own user/group schema.
Creating a UserManager to map our schema seems pretty trivial. What we are
NOT clear on is how to tell Orion that a particular user has logged in.
For example, we start our application with a LOGIN.JSP page, which accepts
user
absolutely...use Bugzilla, and a quick dev team.
However, think of the *franchise* idea. The consultants are franchised by
Ironflare to give *customer support*, which Ironflare can't provide. But
other than the name, what do you get for your *franchise fee*. There's got
to be some access. The
Is this what you are looking for?
RoleManager roleMgr = (RoleManager)
(new InitialContext()).lookup( "java:comp/RoleManager" );
roleMgr.login( "user", "pass" );
Unfortunately, I think that can only run in the container. To accomodate
multiple logins under a servlet, we used to use a
Tim, this IS what I am looking for, but does it mean that I need to put this
into every .JSP page that I have? Then, somehow (according to J2EE spec)
Orion will forward this information to all EJB calls and properly make use
of the deployment descriptor stuff? So every .JSP page will check the
It appears to be down again. On the bright side, jollem is back up, so I
guess things evened out. I'm gonna finally make good on my promise to
mirror jollem while I still can! ;)
btw, a mirror of orionsupport.com is avaible through my site:
http://www.theculprit.com
it's not as good as the
Alex,
I beleive that what's important is the deployment descripter according to
j2ee. As long as a role is required by the descripter, if you navigate to
the jsp, servlet, or use a resource such as a ejb or database, as long as
the application descriptor notes the proper security role, and the
Way to go, elephantwalker...
More ideas:
1) Since we are using Orion's/IronFlare's/OrionServer's IP (the corporate ID
and product names are the most basic IP a corp has) we agree to some kind of
quals and independently verified audits (other than 'pay-for-play') that can
then be 'hung' on our
oops, I forgot one little thing.
If you want to know Who is using a resource, and they have already been
authenticated, use the session context (in an ejb)
String userid = sc.getCallerPrincipal().getName();
obviously, you can expose this as a business method for the session ejb, and
access
Fine, but OrionSupport.com is _already_ owned by Joe Co. and they are not
responding (I sent them a letter and am sending another off-line).
Michael J. Cannon
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Ng
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:37
Again, I am not sure if your JSP page can even make this call. I have only
ever used it in the container in a session bean. I seem to remember not being
able to lookup the RoleManager from my servlet. I think you would have to have
every SB method call this. Which is why I suggested using the
From Kawa Allaire Newsgroup
Kawa 5.0 SP1 is available for download from the following location:
http://allaire11.allaire.com/download/showfamily.cfm?DownloadType=UpdateFam
ilyID=2164DDE5-C7D0-11D4-922900508B6C5F5B
Here are some of the changes in SP1:
1) Integration of IE browser
2) Support for
Another bit of info:
From NSI WHOIS:
http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=orionsupport.com;
STRING=Search
Magnus owns it now.
NOW WHAT?
Michael J. Cannon
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Ng
Sent: Friday,
Ok, I feel it's time for me to step in here as one of the 'Joe Co.'
people.
Firstly, everyone calm down. As Hani said yesterday, every few weeks this
whole "Orion support sucks, my boss won't buy Orion without support, I'm
having a whinge" thread starts up again. Calm down and read the archives
I think Magnus has always owned this...at least as long as I have been using
it.
The plan still applies. We need *an agreement* for franchising with
IronFlare. Next week is easter week in Europe, so I don't think anything can
happen until the holidays are over.
A recent post showed that
I just wanted to point out that despite the Orion team's silence on this
list, over the last couple months there has been a lot of bugzilla
activity. Development is clearly moving forward, so it's not time to
jump ship yet :-)
While a weekly "hey, here's what's up at Ironflare" letter to this
I was under the impression that the domain has always been owned by the
Orion organization. They just pointed it at whoever was willing to
maintain the community site.
I have a suggestion. Lets take a slice of a Wiki system, say the
Portland Pattern Repository at http://www.c2.com. I think
OK, so I've gotten a couple beans deployed in Orion (many thanks to the
list, and the Google-cached jollem pages), so next I want to set up CMP.
I've got a SQL Server set up on a box next to me, and downloaded the Merant
drivers (the .jars of which I've copied into the /orion/libs directory).
A most interesting twist... Hmm... I dunno, this is most unexpected. It's
probably best to wait a couple days so that Joseph/Magnus can address this
issue. Given that Orionsupport went dark today, it seems control of
orionsupport has passed on to the orionserver/Ironflare folks. That may
All right, so that wasn't *that* hard: the line
'connection-driver="com.merant.datadirect.jdbc.sqlserver.SQLServerConnection
"' should have been SQLServerDriver instead; connection-driver refers to a
Driver, not a Connection.
So it's up and trying to hit the database. One problem: The bean
Most disturbing. I deleted the application-deployments/default
directories and changed my class names (and the application-client) to UserX
rather than User. Orion, however, stubbornly continues to try and create a
User table, even though I have removed all references to a User class from
my
Nope...as I've just been clued in, MAGNUS HAS ALWAYS OWNED THE DOMAIN...
Please read Mike Cannon-Brookes' (of OrionSupport) answer to me in the
message "OrionSupport - if you care about the 'Orion community', read it!
WAS RE: productive comment."
I think what we're running into this time is the
I suggest using an MVC (aka "Model 2") approach, separating your view
from your controller. One of the controller's responsibilities can be
to check for authentication and provide to the user either the requested
page or the login page.
If you use a dispatcher-servlet-action framework for your
Finally...will the REAL Mike Cannon please stand up? He has. Patience,
folks.
Michael J. Cannon
Project Manager - hsqldb.org (formerly HyperSonicSQL)
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike
Cannon-Brookes
Again, patience...I am quieting on-list until I get clearance from the
involved parties (or they have a chance to speak for themselves).
Michael J. Cannon
Project Manager, COO
hsqldb.org (formerly HyperSonicSQL)
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My advice is to ignore all the GUI tools that come with Orion and stick
to Ant as a build-and-deploy tool.
It is my strong suspicion that nobody is using, testing, or actively
developing the GUI tools. It is my personal opinion (probably shared by
many on this list) that this is a good thing.
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