RE: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread Jay Armstrong
EW, The message to which you replied has a slightly different title and is from my alternate email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It went through just fine. After my criticism, subsequent messages from others on the original thread (RE: Oracle deal) also went through

Re: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread David Kinnvall
From: Jay Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] EW, [snip] After my criticism, subsequent messages from others on the original thread (RE: Oracle deal) also went through fine, but none of them were critical of Ironflare. In fact, all of them either told me to shut up (Greg Stickley and Hani Suleiman,

Re: Simple Clustering Question

2001-06-10 Thread Lachezar Dobrev
Hi. you need a switch which has multicast enabled; (most ethernet switchs have this capability, some just don't have it enabled) That is not true. Multicast is a network service. It is of type send-on-receive-anyone. That means, that one packet is send and it is received by anyone,

RE: Error running java -jar orion.jar -install

2001-06-10 Thread Harley Rana
Have you tried using sun's jdk 1.3? That's the jdk that has been tested.

RE: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes
Jay, Might I say in advance that I've read your posts in the past and they are good, however this one is severly off the mark and badly wrong in judgement. After my criticism, subsequent messages from others on the original thread (RE: Oracle deal) also went through fine, but none of them

RE: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread Hani Suleiman
Now you need to come up with an even more convoluted conspiracy theory as to why THIS email you sent was 'allowed to make it through'. On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Jay Armstrong wrote: EW, The message to which you replied has a slightly different title and is from my alternate email address

RE: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread Jay Armstrong
Okay, EW. I'll agree that some things are apparently not getting through. They can write a great J2EE product, but can't get their list server to work. My dog at my homework. Now that I've tried for the third time to post my response to Karl, and asked for Mike Cannon-Brookes to post it, we'll

RE: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread elephantwalker
Depending on the country, enforcing a license can be a problem. In the US, all the licensor need do is contact the isp which is hosting the site, and notify them of a copywrite violation. The law is pretty clear about that one. The isp has to take them down. In other countries, they may have no

RE: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
From: Jay Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...paranoia...] Have you ever considered that maybe your communications are being intercepted and preprocessed by a CIA computer? Do you hear clicking noises every time you pick up the phone? You have accidentally sumbled across The Swedish

RE: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread Gregory T Stickley
...CLIP... If it's a list problem, okay, but how can we possibly know? Time will tell,... ...CLIP... Since you are even able to say Time will tell why don't you just wait and see if Ironflare's personality changes over time instead of assuming the worst.

Re: clustering and key generation

2001-06-10 Thread Greg Matthews
jason, thankyou for yor responses. in the interests of keeping it simple, i've decided to try to lobby the rest of the team to go back to using db generated keys (i.e. identity columns in the case of ms sql server ) and throw out key our key generation code. we'll then have a single .ear that

RE: clustering and key generation

2001-06-10 Thread elephantwalker
Greg, I didn't really understand your problem. If you are using counter.jar to generate your keys, then the key is actually generated based upon the last key in the database, not the appserver, so clustering shouldn't be a problem. If there is an issue with transaction concurrency, you can

RE: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread Jay Armstrong
Even paranoid people have enemies. I've never suggested a conspiracy. The response I got from Karl was an immediate reaction to my comment that their testing was done for free. Now testing/bug reporting by the open community will directly help Oracle. Try dealing with facts. Six months ago,

Re: clustering and key generation

2001-06-10 Thread Ate Douma
If I understand Greg's decision correctly, he made it to prevent a single point of failure on the Orion server instance serving the key generation with the counter.jar. That Orion server indeed is a single point of failure instance as only one server should serve the key generation locally. Of

RE: clustering and key generation

2001-06-10 Thread elephantwalker
We have several orion's running in clustering, each of them serving up keys from counter.jar, with no conflicts. Let me be clear, each orion instance uses its own local counter.jar ejb to generate a key, but the underlying data for the key generation comes from the database. The counter.jar is

RE: Oracle deal gag

2001-06-10 Thread Hani Suleiman
Well, you're kinda asking for it, but your credentials clearly show why you're so paranoid and are on very, umm, thin ground when it comes to mental well being. We've all tried presenting the facts to you regarding the Oracle deal, but all we seem to be getting in respose is a descent into your

RE: Problem with starting Orion on Solaris 8

2001-06-10 Thread elephantwalker
Mahesh, there were issues with auto-deployment and earlier versions. I would upgrade to 1.5.2 the latest stable version, 1.4.0 is a little behind the times now. Check the permissions on your deploy directory and the application directory, does orion have write access? (write permissions are not

RE: Error running java -jar orion.jar -install

2001-06-10 Thread Javier Soques
--- Harley Rana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried using sun's jdk 1.3? That's the jdk that has been tested. Yes, I downloaded Sun's jdk and it now works. I just wanted to stick with IBM's since that works with the same combination on a Mandrake Linux (the error occurs on a Windows

Re: clustering and key generation

2001-06-10 Thread Greg Matthews
i think elephantwalker's solution is probably better from a database independence point of view and understand now that counter works off the db. i think using identity's is probably ok also, but we'll have to do some OO stuff server side to abstract away the get the last identity used (MS SQL

Re: Error running java -jar orion.jar -install

2001-06-10 Thread Javier Soques
No, I just unZIPPED the archive to it's folder. Javier Soques --- Tim Endres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Between release 1.4.7 and 1.4.8, Orion switched over to Xalan 2. It appears from the stack trace that you have somehow confused the JAR files related to Xalan. Did you by chance copy your