reside in the
middle layer, where you also have the benefits of a strong OO machine
independent language.
- Brian Chan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
-Original Message-
From: Frank Eggink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE
Date: Sat
Is it correct to state that from a performance and design perspective using stored
procedures is helpfull if you need
access from outside the J2EE environment?
If no out side access is necessary, the stored procedures are likely to be helpfull
for perfomance if they filter out a
lot of data or
Isn't it that you get one year max of support with the license?
FE
On Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:03 PM, Rob Lapensee [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
6 months ago (or so) I read the license agreement carefully and it seemed to
be worded as $1500 per year, so I sent an e-mail to this group asking
Here is how I think it works.
The system registers the fully qualified classnames at the server side when
starting the server. Yes, I'm assuming that fqnames are registered.
When the client container starts, the client-application.xml is loaded and
the system checks whether it can find
If that is to no reveal to that I would check (with a program) all files
(especially the settings in the xmls) on whether they are the same on both
machine Linux Wins,
unless you are 100% sure they are the same (and not 99.9% sure they are the
same!).
The upper/lower case differences in
Strrrange, I followed exactly the same path as you did and it worked like a breeze.
From the top of my head this can be caused by two things:
- packet filtering, in otherwords is port 80 indeed accessible?
- some xml setting for your server breaks the tunneling
To check the latter maybe try it
Maybe something todo with the Orion version?
I'm using 1.4.5 on Win98 and WinNT and have to say: it works.
FE
On Friday, May 18, 2001 10:06 AM, Thomas Hertz [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hello.
When we try to connect to the server using
http:ormi://localhost/appName, the tunnel
Guess what you what is more of an -un-clustering excercise :-)
When specifying your params for your InitialContext you have to set the PROVIDER_URL.
That specifies a host path.
e.g.
...
properties.put(Context.PROVIDER_URL,
ormi://your-bean-server/your-application/);
variable).
So in a way I think I need a kind of static statefull session bean such
that all clients have the same session bean.
What are your ideas about this ?
Eddie
From: Frank Eggink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED
A good firewall can log packages that are denied. For example ipchains on
Linux can log any packet that matches a specific rule. If you log all
denied packages and start orion with the console you'll find out easily
what the ports are ...
Guess you can do this trick with other firewall as
In general you use JMS for three purposes:
1. The message receiver is not always accessible (due for instance to the
unreliable nature of the internet) but you do want guaranteed delivery.
2. You would like to give clients the option to subscribe at will
(allthough you probably can do this
Nope, as a rule you will have a limited number of stateless session beans
at anyone
moment instantiated in your container, due to the nature of a stateless
bean. The container
can 'garbage collect' them. Guess it will do that after some time out.
If you are seriously concerned about resource
It is used for J2EE authentication. Changing the config files and starting
/ killing the server (without using admin.jar) is not done via J2EE stuff
and therefore: no admin login needed.
On Thursday, May 10, 2001 7:43 PM, Terrance Davis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
I found it used for
, sub k [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hi Frank,
I typed in the file properly. Do I have to modify any
other files?
Thanks
Subrah
--- Frank Eggink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you copy the text from the rmi.xml file to your
mail?
It reads RIM-server ... instead of RMI-server
With ' java -jar orion.jar -config one-of-your-server-xml-files ' you can do the
trick ...
On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:46 PM, Chaya Ramanujam [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I know it is possible to run multiple instances on Orion on one machine
using multiple installs of Orion and multiple
Yep, if you don't make things serializable you get null as a 'value'.
That applies to return values crossing the wire as well :-).
Note that, to prevent yourself from having more fun!
FE
On Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:43 AM, Michael Jara
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
It took me a while to
Are you using the default user manager (the using the principal files)?
In that case it is easy to check what's happening by adding
roleManager.store() in your code. That'll store all your changes in the
principal files. After that it's piece of cake to check the relations.
'user123' should
The call to a SFSB cause you (with Orion) at max the additional penalty of an extra
Activation and Passivation cycle. Depending on the amount of resource usage for
these extra cycli as percentage of the overall resource usage, the use of SFSBs will
hit you.
The thing which puzzles me is why not
concern is can we run multiple instances with some
dispatcher mechanism to distribute the load equally to
all these JVMs on the same server?
Thanks
Subrah
--- Frank Eggink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As long as the port numbers for HTTP, JMs (if used)
and RMI do not overlap you
can start
Did you copy the text from the rmi.xml file to your mail?
It reads RIM-server ... instead of RMI-server ...
FE
On Monday, May 07, 2001 6:28 PM, sub k [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hi,
When I added these lines to the file rmi.xml, still it
is giving me an error saying Illegal character at
As long as the port numbers for HTTP, JMs (if used) and RMI do not overlap you
can start as many Orion instances as you like.
See the files jms.xml, rmi.xml and default-website.xml for the port settings.
Make sure you use the correct port numbers in the clients as well :-)
FE
On Sunday,
U, this is a question which is burning for sometime now.
I certainly not intending to challenge, but I take this as an opportunity
to raise the question.
I understand the performance benefit of Stateless Session Beans (SLSB) over
Stateful Session Beans (SFSB): this benefit is caused by
Personally Linux, but you can add an interesting option: Solaris 8.0 for
x86.
My gut feeling and some circumstantial evidence (a.o. the infamous test in
which MS outperformed Linux 2.2 on a 'big' SMP box) gives me the
impression Solaris could out perform Linux in the TCP/IP arena. I have
Harley,
If I'm correct the attached files should give you a working example, if not let me
know. I have not looked at
it for a year, apart from changing the readme format from (UNIX) text to HTML just now
onder the save
assumption not everybody works on UNIX.
Success,
FE
On Monday,
The RMI port is defined in rmi.xml with default value: 23791, JMS alike default: 9127
Regards,
FE
On Monday, April 30, 2001 2:37 PM, Neal Kaiser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hi All,
I will have two machines in my environment, both running Orion. One
will be holding the EJBs, database,
. Only edits direct on the orion-application.xml file in the
deployment directory have effect on the server
behavior.
Kind regards,
Frank Eggink
Swift Applications
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Well, this tells you that you hit a null pointer exception in the jsp page.
Not very much more ...
Best you can do is to add some debugging code to trace the execution of
your jsp page (write print statements to the HTML page or to a log file).
FE
On Friday, April 27, 2001 6:06 PM, Komal
.
-Original Message-
From: Frank Eggink
To: Orion-Interest
Sent: 4/21/01 7:01 AM
Subject: On large programming teams [RE: A Swedish Idea]
The following is one of the classic readings on programming at large. 25
years old and I
can still recommend it:
The Mythical Man-Month from F.P
The following is one of the classic readings on programming at large. 25 years old and
I
can still recommend it:
"The Mythical Man-Month" from F.P. Brooks jr.
Yes, it's even 26 years old and talks about OS/360, some odd system which is now out
performed by your 100$ marketvalue Pentium
Johan,
Guess you could throw the exception using a scripting element in the page.
%
if (yourBean.isNotAccessible()) {
throw new NoAccessException("");
}
%
FE
On Friday, April 20, 2001 4:23 PM, Johan Fredriksson
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I'm trying
instrative stuff a number of times. I do
'destroy()' the process created by the exec() call. The problem is gone
after restarting the server.
FE
Frank Eggink
Swift Applications
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One, two, three: Testing ...
Auto-deploying test (Previous
Guess you do not need a licence per client, as you are not runnning the server.
I've seen pretty small client side runtimes (under 100k) for other servers. I assume
that something like that is possible for the Orion product as well. The jars you
mention
contain a lot of superfluous stuff
ssing if I would use ejb-ref-mapping location="ejb/app1/myBean"
name="ejb/myBean" /
in orion-ejb-jar.xml, getting close.
Does anyone have any experience with this???
Thanks in advance,
FE
Frank Eggink
Swift Applications
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You can change that entry to:
default-web-app application="myApp" name="myWebApp" /
or what ever names you prefer.
Make sure you have defined 'myApp' in the server.xml though.
FE
On Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:29 AM, SCOTT FARQUHAR
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Two things that
/error-page
take an extra look at the location tag...
I am using IE6
Johan
- Original Message -
From: "Frank Eggink" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: Friendly error message
(by them) to be more user friendly.
Still I do not understand how the Explorer gets the information there is a
404 error. Could this be somewhat less wanted feature of Orion? I certainly
would like to have control over this error message.
FE
On Friday, March 30, 2001 5:48 PM, Frank Eggink
[SMTP
.
In this file, the accountManager gets declared.
At the time of writing the app, I was feelinga bit lazy and wanted to limit
the amount of tags to write in each page, so I came up with this little
solution.
WR
-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Fran: Frank Eggink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
-existing-page.html, which does not happen. I'm
obviously overlooking something, but what??
[When I define the error page in a jsp page with %@
errorpage=/errors/error404.jsp % it does work. So it can find the page,
which gives me the impression I've setup something wrong. What??
FE
Frank Eggink
Hi,
I'm having difficulties understanding the login of the ATM.
In the index.jsp the 'accountManager' get declared using a 'jsp:useBean' tag. Where
does the accountManager is instantiated?
I it must be somewhere between the login and the first use in the index.jsp page.
FE
Frank Eggink
If you are connecting an application client, you should use the app name you define in
server.xml.
When you define: application="yourApp" . /
You use: ormi://.../yourApp
FE
On Friday, March 23, 2001 11:18 PM, Alex Paransky
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Orion's
Hi,
Here are my 2cts.
You have two routes: keep all in one directory-tree / partition (easy to backup an
restore) or spread
it out the UNIX way. I would go for the latter one.
The original setup for the filestructure in the UNIX world was based, amongst others,
on where the
files where used
lication.xml defined display-name value, which doesn't
really solve the problem because that's included in the .ear file.
i was hoping to be able to programmatically determine the
server.xml defined application name and use that to build
the path.
greg.
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From: &
Greg,
Why run an instance of orion per client you are serving? I'm looking to
host an applications for a number of clients too, but I'm looking into
another route.
We plan to 'copy' the applications and run them from one server-instance.
Guess for resource usage we are better off, just
Eddie,
If you check the mailing list and or www.orionsupport.com, you will find some
decent answers. What is causing your trouble is the fact that port 80 is for root only.
One of the trick is using the packet filtering technique of the firewall of your site
and forward
all packages for orion
I think the major part is a design issue. How do you recognize someone is logging-in
after he accidentally killed his browser? Maybe you could use IP addresses for that???
As far as I know most ISPs use simple timeout mechanisms on their POP3 servers
(you can reconnect after sometime when the
I don't know your code, but it looks like you forgot to handle the RemoteException at
line 294 in Apple_ORSet295.java.
Anyway, why use a compound key? IMHO generating a technical key has a lot of
advantages and the downside that
you need to handle the uniquesness of the candidate key is not
-application.xml, but I could not find out from the docs what I
should do.
Frank Eggink
Swift Applications
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As I can remember from previous postings it had to do with the UI for
selecting the skeleton file. If you check the mailing archive on
www.orionserver.com you'l find an answer.
FE
On Friday, February 23, 2001 9:02 AM, Schouten, Andreas
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hello!
The
To be honest I know little about how to configure datasources for Orion.
What should I read to understand the differences between the classes you can specify
in 'data-sources.xml'?
Thanks,
FE
Frank Eggink
Swift Applications
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Hi,
I've received some negative feedback on the use of CMP beans regarding performance.
They switched to Session beans
which gave them a remarkable perfomance increase (no figures available).
Note: These guys did not use Orion.
Does anyone have likewise experience with Orion?
Regards,
FE
Hi,
I just ran into a small hiccup. When orion autocreates tables for
hypersonicsql I get the following message:
Warning: Error creating table: Unexpected token: 255 in statement [create
table MySomething (id BIGINT not null primary key, field1 VARCHAR(255)
null, field2 VARCHAR(255) null,
I guess the Orion part is crashing?? That would imply the JVM crashed, what they
theoretically
should not do.
What JVM are you running?
Frank
On Sunday, January 28, 2001 1:57 AM, James Hays [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I?ve been trying to connect Macromedia?s UltraDev 4.0 with Orion for
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From: Frank Eggink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: De Frisse Jongens
Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:13:22 +0100
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Segmentation Fault
I guess
Maybe a bit late, but I guess using custom finder queries in the home interface could
be an option as well.
I'm using custom finders for candidate keys defined in the home interfaces of the
beans. That gives direct access to
sql without using session beans. I assume that leaves out the
Visual Cafe is rebranded as WebGain and sold by Bea.
My 2$cts: I use TextPad, which is pretty convenient for editing, compiling
and very fast and stable as you can't talk about bloat with that product (=
still an understatement). For the more complex build procedures I'm using
'ant', as it is
different tables to define what makes up the fields within an
entity bean.
Cory
At 10:12 PM 11/7/00 +0100, Frank Eggink wrote:
Hi Cory,
How do they recognize relations between tables?
Frank
On Tuesday, November 07, 2000 3:32 PM, Cory Adams
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I just received
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wrote:
Are you using the command or business object pattern?
At 08:49 AM 11/6/00 +0100, Frank Eggink wrote:
I'm using Swing instead of JSP.
On Sunday, November 05, 2000 9:04 PM, Cory Adams
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Thanks for that update.
Do you or does anyone else
style descriptors Haven't tested
this yet though.
Cory
At 09:37 AM 11/7/00 +0100, Frank Eggink wrote:
I guess I'm using neither.
The clue is that, when you stick to the rules, you have to write the
minimum one panel and one table
per dataobject as all the access
that controlling mechanism to the EJBs. I wondering how that is
done?
Cory
At 10:23 PM 11/5/00 +0100, Frank Eggink wrote:
My personal trade off was:
Why not CMP 2.0 style:
- Too scared to use it for real as it is not even officially there ...
Why choose for CMP 1.1?
- CMP is more
Hello,
I'm trying to setup different datasource locations for different
applications, but can't get it to work for some reason. Can someone give me
a clue?
Orio does not complain when deploying. As far as I can understand the
datasources.xml file in /config is ok (contains a tag for TestDS).
My personal trade off was:
Why not CMP 2.0 style:
- Too scared to use it for real as it is not even officially there ...
Why choose for CMP 1.1?
- CMP is more portable (across db's).
- Working already towards EJB2.0.
- The claim is CMP can be optimized better (I would be happy to know more
So far I've had a little struggle to implement a Query By Example form as well.
Orion does generate finder methods for you. You can define them using the finder-method
definitions in 'orion-ejb-jar.xml'. The dificulty is in the more complex queries.
Joe Walnes and Torgier Lerkerod reacted to a
If you like I can send you a copy. Drop a mail to me direct (not via the mailing list).
Frank
On Friday, October 20, 2000 10:04 PM, Joel Shellman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I'm just wondering if dependent object classes in Orion 1.4.0 work as laid
out in the EJB 2.0 PD2 spec.
Talked
No offence and thanks very much for the data ...
On Monday, October 23, 2000 12:00 PM, Holmes, George (TWIi London)
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I wasn't working on the project myself, and possibly gave a slightly
mis-leading impression ;-
To the best of my knowledge there were 8-12
In general the JVM developped by SUN runs substantially quicker on Windows then on
Linux. Try for instance to
run HypersonicSQL in core on both platforms. As I recall the performance penalty using
Linux is reduced using
JVM 1.3. Another disadvantage using 1.3 Linux is that the stability of the
As of interest. What sort of configuration were the running?
Frank
On Friday, October 20, 2000 10:14 AM, Holmes, George (TWIi London)
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
www.opengolf.com
This is the official web site for the British Open Golf tournament. Did 30
million page impressions/day
I don't know what's the downside of believing these statistics.
On http://www.netcraft.com:
click on 'what's that site running'
click on 'help'
click on 'range'
click on 'Index' (of Sept 2000 of course)
Hit Ctrl-F and search for orion.
It tells you 1238 servers are running orion. (If you want
Hi,
I'm by far not a UNIX sysadm expert, but as far I my memory goes I think
that by looking at the init(8) documentation you'll find good directions
how to implement this in a UNIX fashion. The 'init' process is designed to
take care of things like automagically restarting processes and
Joseph,
I think better sources of information then the standard documentation is great and
very helpful for people
using Orion. I have sometimes great difficulties getting things sorted out to the
extend I'm wondering whether
I'm on the right track. Assuming I'm not the only one in that
="username"
password="password"
/
Obviously, in this case, I've got both the Oracle and Postgres drivers in
my
orion/lib directory. Then when you want to get a pooled connection,
you'd
use...
connection = ((javax.sql.DataSource)
ctx.lookup("jdbc/Defau
I was wondering whether it would be possible to let the orion server(s) switch
datasource as a sort of
failover procedure. I haven't digged myself into clustering and failover, but here's
the idea.
Assuming you have made sure the server are running with failover and you have bought
yourself a
I had problem using Kawa client side. Only the JDB debugger works on the client.
Server side I have no experience.
Frank
On Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:34 AM, =?BIG5?B?s6+nyrnF?=
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hello:
Dose Kawa Enterprise Edition 5.0 support Orion J2EE server ??
Hi, How do you select a different datasource?
I have defined a second data source in the datasources.xml file. Also I
have added "default-data-source="jdbc/TestEJBDS" to the
orion-application.xml file in the application-deployments/application
directory, as suggested by the manual.
It
Neither have I.
On Wednesday, October 11, 2000 6:06 PM, Sean Han [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hi, everyone:
When using ejbmaker, I found I cannot restore it from a saved .skeleton
file. No matter what I entered for the bean, I always get an empty package
when I reopen it. Can anyone
not investigated that technology.
Frank
On Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:13 AM, Frank Eggink
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
On Monday, October 09, 2000 9:24 PM, Reddy Krishnan
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
hi Kevin,
Could not agree with you more. I am developing a system using EJBs
Here is what we are at ...
By the mere fact we are using Swing we can't use Servlets.
I'm working on an application that we will run as a webservice. That is,
you will be able to enter/retrieve data in a Swing applet.
We choose for the Swing route, because using HTML/ASP/JSP doesn't give you
Hope I haven't made any errors in the example causing to to waiste your
time (as i did with my typo comp:/java/env). If so let me know. I'll fix
the example.
The error messages tell me that the system can't find the home interface.
From the output I can't deduct what is wrong (which could be
Check 'man nohup'. A line like 'nohup (cd orion-dir; java -jar orion.jar)
' in a file called /etc/rc.d/boot.local will do the trick, a bit quick and
sirty though.
In the /etc/rc.d directory you'll find a lot of startup scripts to start an
stop services. To integrate it even better in your
: Frank Eggink [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviado el: Viernes, 29 de Septiembre de 2000 04:57 a.m.
Para: Orion-Interest
Asunto: RE: HTTP Tunneling
I just tried it this week: piece of cake. See the Orion Documentation:
RMI-HTTP tunneling. It is in the section about deployment
Use should add the current folder to your classpath:
.;../../../orion.jar;../...
Frank
On Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:16 PM, Carl Troedsson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
I have tried to run the test applications in Orion but can?t get them to work, for
example when I try :
This is very useful for me. Thanks for posting this ...
Frank
On Friday, September 29, 2000 3:43 AM, Jim Archer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Thanks to all who replied.
Acually, my original message was not too well written. I was not concerned
about the port mapping issue. Thats not a
You might opt for installing a simple Linux router if you can't find a Solaris Network
Address Translation tool. The Linux box would only be used to route the TCP/IP
packages
from one port to another.
It is the old Linux story. Claim and older Pentium PC with some 32 Mb memory in
it (in that
I'm running into trouble specifying finder queries in orion-ejb-jar. As far
as I can make sense of it the cause is in the quotes. Is that correct and
does anyone know how the get around that?
I've changed the default finder method to:
finder-method query="$1" partial="false"
Maybe a still too early notice: in the new 2.4 Linux kernel they will serve static
http request direct
from the kernel. This could give interesting results wrt performance :-)
On Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:46 AM, Christof Baumgaertner
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
This benchmarks do
Michel,
Reading from the message to got it is a security 'problem'. From a first look your
settings seem ok. Have you changed you config/princpals.xml file
and removed the deactivation properties for the admin user?
Frank
On Friday, August 25, 2000 12:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SMTP:[EMAIL
Hi,
A little, perhaps useful, contribution to the documentation.
I have been experimenting with Orion. In the end I want to connect to the Orion server
from a
browser. As a first step I have added a remote client to the Orion-Primer from Ernst
de Haan.
Maybe it is usefull from some other
Sridar,
It looks like yout client does not pickup the jndi properties from the
jndi.properties file. If you add that file to your classpath things should
be ok.
Frank
On Saturday, August 19, 2000 8:53 PM, Sridhar Manickam
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Hi,
After successfully deploying
Hi,
It occures odd to me that I seem to need the mail.jar and the jdbc.jar file
on the client side when running EJBs remotely. Does anyone have some
experience with that?
I'm also wondering how small you can make orion.jar. What classes can you
strip from the jar?
With JRun it looks like
Hi,
I'm having difficulties connecting from a remote client to the server. I've
downloaded the Orion Primer and added an EJB-client. The client connects to
the server and asks to say hello. All runs fine (EJB and client app) on my
server, but I've trouble to get it running on a remote
Alex,
Have a look in the principals.xml file in the config directory. If you
remove the 'deactivated=true' properties for admin and user, you will be
able to log in using either one of them.
Cheers,
Frank
On Friday, August 18, 2000 9:04 AM, Alex Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
Hi
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