Maybe we need an osgi-users list for more general help type questions and osgi-dev can stay more focussed on spec related discussions?
I could create the osgi-users list and intially subscribe everyone on osgi-dev to it. Then people can unsubscribe from either (or both) lists as they see fit.
If the activate method of a component instance has run, then the component instance is ACTIVE. A non-immediate SATISFIED component instance will generally not have been instantiated or activated given the lazy nature of DS for non-immediate components.
Also, since a component can have multiple
A reference could require 3 services but only 2 are currently available. So the DTO would hold the 2 currently available.
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> Btw. I wonder if we could use a command line option for maven to auto update the runbundles. So you could describe to first run the build with mvn install. It fails and then run again with the option to replace the runbundles. That would be a lot simpler than copy pasting them.
We just added
ying to further restrict the requirement to be “3.0 or bust”, in an effort to exclude bundle C.
Regards,
Tim
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But they are anded. So version=2.1 is the range[2.1,2.1]. This second range for version<=2.1 is [0,2.1]. So the
lementation.
I appreciate any further insight that others may have!
Regards,
Tim
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"(&(osgi.contract=JavaJPA)(version=2.1)(version<=2.1))" will only match exactly version 2.1 since the next term is ande
"(&(osgi.contract=JavaJPA)(version=2.1)(version<=2.1))" will only match exactly version 2.1 since the next term is anded.
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Well, all things are possible in programming :-) But as you note, we need fidelity with non-Eclipse usage like gradle, ant, etc. And they cannot depend upon decoding Eclipse metadata (which is not API) to figure out where on the file system all the projects in the bnd workspace are located. How
You can't do that. All the bnd projects must be in the same file system folder as the cnf folder. They all can be in a different folder than the Eclipse workspace folder but you cannot split bnd projects across file system folders.
Remember Bndtools is a set of Eclipse plugins which use Bnd to
Technically is it *not* the reference implementation for the REST spec. The reference implementation is source code which sits in the OSGi internal git repo. It is likely that the implementation in Concierge derives from the original source code contributed to OSGi for the reference
Perhaps you should ask this on the bndtools-users mail list?
https://github.com/bndtools/bnd#feedback
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butes values, don't you think? regards,Seth
On 31/05/2016 16:41, BJ Hargrave wrote:
The spec does not support that. The tool (e.g. Bnd) will look for the use of the annotation types as arguments to life cycle methods (e.g. activate). That is how it knows the annotation type is "in use" as a c
The spec does not support that. The tool (e.g. Bnd) will look for the use of the annotation types as arguments to life cycle methods (e.g. activate). That is how it knows the annotation type is "in use" as a component property type.
Using them also as annotations to the component class to set
res when a service disappears. However, there is NEVER a guarantee that you can still call the service.
Kind regards,
Peter Kriens
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BJ Hargrave:
The tense of the customizer method name tells you when it is called relati
If the service publisher imports the package with the advertised service type, then only bundles which either (a) import the same package or (b) do not import the package at all will normally see the service (unless they use getAllServiceReferences or the all option in ServiceTracker). This is to
If you need to know the old service properties, you will have had to save a copy of them.
You don't need an identity map. Just use the ServiceReference as the key.
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Those are not the OSGi DS annotations. Those are bnd-flavored annotations for DS which will be deprecated in a future bnd release.
The OSGi DS 1.2 annotations are in the osgi.cmpn version=5 jar.
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I do not see a mix of concerns here. There is component enablement and there is component satisfaction.
A component must be first be enabled which requires it to live in a bundle which is started and also to have the component description enabled (either via the declaration or the API).
An
DS is already declarative. What additional declarations are you thinking of? Where would a "deployment' declaration come from? If the deployment declaration disabled a component, how would the component later become enabled? Through API calls? How would the deployer create and deploy deployment
properties points to a property file resource in the bundle. property is a key=value pair.
See 112.4.6 in the spec for the full description and examples.
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Good question. Perhaps you should ask in the felix-dev mail list? This mail list, osgi-dev, is for discussions/questions about the OSGi specifications and programming OSGi.
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DS does not make configurations. It just uses them.
Peter has something in enRoute which makes configurations from a resource in a bundle: https://github.com/osgi/osgi.enroute.bundles/tree/master/osgi.enroute.configurer.simple.provider
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Yes, the change was intentional. This is the first time that the OSGi Alliance itself released the companion code jars to maven central. We now build the necessary maven metadata as part of the regular OSGi builds thanks to maven support improvements in bnd. As part of this, we regularized the
return the coordination there and I do not need to store it in a thread local.ChristianOn 03.08.2015 23:23, BJ Hargrave wrote:
Yes, you need to do something to hold a strong reference to the coordination. But you also need to make sure you always clean up so there is no case where a strong reference
();If the code can be called more than once per thread I would need to use a Stack.Does that make sense?ChristianOn 03.08.2015 22:00, BJ Hargrave wrote:
In that code snippet, the call to gc() is stand in for other code which could trigger a gc. And it is also possible that this other code alters
In that code snippet, the call to gc() is stand in for other code which could trigger a gc. And it is also possible that this other code alters the coordination stack (fails the coordination; coordination times out; ...), so the pop() call may not return the coordination began in the first line.
This is why the usage model is
begin coordination;
try {
do something that should be coordinated;
} finally {
end coordination;
}
The finally ensures the coordination is not left forever in a thread local.
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Yes, just like any other thing held in a threadlocal.
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extendersDate: Wed, Jun 17, 2015 2:55 PM
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So this is like DS (an extender) registering Servlet services on behalf of a bundle using DS. Then of course the extender bundle does not care about the servlet package but also
In this case B, the Wicket extender, must import the servlet package since it is making Servlet objects and registering them as Servlet services. It must use the same servlet package as A, the whiteboard impl, in order for A to understand the Servlet services.
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object in some way. But that party must define the
mechanism by which it shares the ServiceRegistration.
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From: Frank Langel fr
] and Authorization [2] based upon the work to
date on OSGi EnRoute [3].
[1]
https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfps/rfp-0164-Authentication.pdf
[2]
https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfps/rfp-0165-Authorization.pdf
[3] http://enroute.osgi.org/
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On 04/06/2015 03:30 PM, BJ Hargrave wrote:
Seem like you just need a convention where you put the human
readable/pretty name in a key of the configuration and then you can find
it with listConfigurations if you need to.
So to be clear, you mean
name endsWith MBean
(except for DynamicMBean). And DS is not designed to do that. That is
better for a ServiceTracker.
ok! not a problem.
- Ray
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Does anyone see why
From: Raymond Auge raymond.a...@liferay.com
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K, so it can't handled Object (or the anything case)?
DS can handle any type a service is registered under including
From: Raymond Auge raymond.a...@liferay.com
Does anyone see why this would not be working?
@Reference(
I'll assume this is the OSGi annotation.
cardinality = ReferenceCardinality.MULTIPLE,
name = MBean,
policy = ReferencePolicy.DYNAMIC,
policyOption =
feedback would be appreciated
Frank
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. I think there would not be general
consensus on this as it would make the framework quite a bit larger and
more complex.
Thanks
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and don't rely on
something that varies in each installation.
If the service provider is the Servlet Context from a WAB, use the
osgi.web.symbolicname property as the provider identifying property. So
the consumer can look for target=(osgi.web.symbolicname=my.bsn).
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the bundle up so that only a single active
extender is controlling each bundle.
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DS adds a component.name property to each component's properties. You
control the component name. So you can find a service with the
component.name you control.
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consumer should not
have to know anything about the service provider including how to provide
visibility to its implementation classes.
All uses of TCCL are flawed in non-legacy OSGi scenarios.
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can know how many servlet requests are in flight and the server can (1)
not processes any future requests and (2) wait until all current requests
have returned before updating the app. However, any other threads doing
things are outside the knowledge of the http server.
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is the non-UI engine and bndtools is the Eclipse UI layer around bnd.
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From: Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net
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new VersionRange([1.0,2.0)).toFilterString()
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I mean: run that code and see what the returned string is. You can use the
toFilterString() method on VersionRange to compute the proper filter
string for any version range.
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If you register the cache as a service using ServiceFactory, then you will
know the bundle that gets the service. You can then use that bundle's
class loader. This would seem sufficient, or did I not fully understand
the problem?
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You can return a unique facade to a central cache to each bundle. You can
use the facade to collect the bundle's class loader when a key is added to
the cache. You use the facade just to know which bundle is interacting
with the central cache.
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Yes, but that is a specific limited case. You know that A and B import
from DTO and limit their cache contributions to that type. It is not a
general case.
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object for a service (if you customize the tracker to use ServiceObjects.)
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MetaTypeProvider with a dummy bundle, but that is definitely a hack.
Hopefully, your dummy bundle is using the bundle context of the real
bundle so that the MetaTypeProvider service appears to be registered by
the real bundle.
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Your bundle will just be an importer of the packages and using DS to
register services. So client bundles of your services need to import the
packages from the same source as you: the system bundle.
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references the XML.
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the factory service.
You could also look at prototype scope services introduced in Core R6 as
an alternative to factories (unless you need to parameterize the object
creation).
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/UnfilteredServiceListener.html
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and then try again. But this only works if the code never
holds the real object for any length of time and only hold the guard over
the long term.
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should avoid value objects altogether
Value objects are fine but you should probably not specify any behavior on
them because they are then more just values. See DTOs in the OSGi spec.
For DTOs, we use equals and hashCode from Object. That means, object
identity.
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I would think that for such special use cases, generating a bundle
would suffice, since it can easily be done at run time. Why keep
adding features for more and more specialized use cases when they
can be accomplished already?
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service.pid is unique across all configurations belonging to a factory
pid. Why is that not enough?
The original email was looking for a label that was human readable for a
UI. And service.description would work for that usage.
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I don't know why the felix scr annotations don't allow service.description
and service.vendor since they are not otherwise used by CM or the
framework.
Perhaps you should ask the felix scr annotation devs?
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Why isn't this just service.description? It's value can certainly be
unique for every registered service and tools can display it (or some
abbreviation if long).
I am not sure I see the need for another human readable label on a
service registration.
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Conceptually yes. But in the specific example, the queueTask method impl
would need to do the wrapping since it know what thread's threadlocals to
use.
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package is
present. But the log package does not appear in your API. That is, you
have an implementation dependency on log not an API signature dependency
on log.
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java vendors) keep their embedded offering up to date with Java SE, then
OSGi will be able to move forward on an ongoing basis.
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(and later) build environments since Java SE 1.7 javac ceased to
recognize -target jsr14 class files.
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As requested in the RFC (section 0.3) and the OSGi design git hub repo
README (https://github.com/osgi/design#feedback), please provide any
comments on an RFC in the form of a bug at
https://www.osgi.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=OSGi%20Specification.
Thanks,
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bind method for all the references. Otherwise you can write 3
different bind methods and annotate each.
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From: BJ Hargrave/Austin
I renamed the wiki page to http://wiki.osgi.org/wiki/RFCs and updated the
README.md in the design repo to refer to that page. When and RFPs wiki
page is created, I'll update the README.md again.
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Thanks. I updated the design repo readme to reference the RFPs page also.
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From: Tim Verbelen tim.verbe...@intec.ugent.be
it in a POJO manner (and not even using the DS API directly).
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From: Balázs Zsoldos balazs.zsol...@everit.biz
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making commits to use helpful commit
messages. Unfortunately, not every commit has a useful commit message.
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, no volunteers...
We have the same problem internally in OSGi. :-) We have an internal wiki
which we use to hold the list of documents, but it is frequently out of
date for these reasons. We just learned to accept it given the many OSGi
members contributing documents.
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with the performance characteristics you need.
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by using your own
customizer/subclass to use your own collection to hold the tracked objects
with even better performance for your needs.
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of a performance problem in normal
real world use. And besides, people should be using DS anyway! :-)
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You cannot do this. When you unregister the service, all service objects
are released. You don't unregister service instances; you unregister the
entire service registration.
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I am sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to explain. Perhaps
you can explain with some more concrete examples?
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a permissions change listener would not provide useful information.
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Yes. The point is that the package is a complete unit when it is exported
or imported. So, in this case, when it does not contain the requested
type, you must stop searching as you have a failure to locate the type.
This avoids the split package problem.
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Peter means it is in the order of the name elements of the @Reference
annotations. So you can control the order by setting the name element to
values which will sort in your desired order.
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However, if you are using DS annotations rather than writing the XML file
yourself, then you have no controls over the order of reference elements
bnd will write to the generated XML file.
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the log
information and then, when the log object is injected, dump the buffer to
the log object.
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From: Ewgenij Sokolovski ewgenij
their function.
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on that for 6+ ;)
Correct if you want the OSGi standard way. For now, there are
implementation specific ways to do this. I believe both Felix and Equinox
has implementation specific headers you can use to name an activator class
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-ExtensionBundleActivators.pdf
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the status of any entities in a bundle managed by the extender
could be useful. (It is not clear that all extender models can be
supported by a single service design given the many extenders and their
varying features.)
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Implementing resolver hooks, service hooks, etc for the Subsystems
specification. You need to make sure the hook implementations are
operating before normal bundles to ensure the proper isolation is in
place.
Most developers should not be implementing framework extensions.
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No. BundleTracker will add all bundles matching the tracker criteria even
if those bundles reached the criteria before the tracker was started. So
you do not need to make sure your extender is started before your
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config.ini is an Equinox specific thing. You need to ask in the Equinox
forum http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/f/31/
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From
on utilizing factories versus services, but I can't quite see where the
problem is. Any guidance is appreciated.
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(not osgi.bp :-).
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From: Neil Bartlett njbartl...@gmail.com
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Date: 2013/09/23 09:26
Sure. An implementation can do that. But the spec will not mention
osgi.ds.
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From: Christian Schneider ch...@die-schneider.net
See
https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfcs/rfc0190/rfc-0190-Declarative_Services_Enhancements.pdf
for the current design doc.
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items can be dequeued to the channel.
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From: Daniel McGreal dan...@redbite.com
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Date: 2013/09/19 12
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From: Thomas Diesler thomas.dies...@jboss.com
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Date: 2013/09/10 07:01
Assuming that many bundles could register IRemoteServiceProvider
services, how could Blueprint know when all of them have been registered?
Some of these bundles may not have even been started yet.
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hargr
No. You should just handle the dynamics. reference-list is updated as
the services change.
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From: Soniya Chavan soniya_cha
It is not possible with DS. You cannot set property values to arbitrary
types.
It is also not a good idea to put arbitrary typed values in service
properties since observers wont necessarily have access to those types or
the correct version of those types.
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If a package is not exported, it is private. So there is no marking them
private. Just don't export them.
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From: Raymond Auge
x-internal *was* an Equinox thing. In Luna it is ignored.
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