Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-16 Thread niels via Osmand


Op woensdag 14 februari 2018 01:30:48 UTC+1 schreef Tom Norton:
>
> Ni,
> Here is the phone I am looking at.
> http://bluproducts.com/devices/vivo-xl-2/
> Is Android 6.0 Marshmallow what I am looking for?


Yes, Android 6.0 is fine. The specs should be more than enough to run 
OsmAnd smoothly. The primary reason to go for a higher version of Android 
is that you'll have a better chance of receiving security updates for the 
device. That probably matters most if / when you want to use that phone  as 
your primary communicatio n device as well.

Spec-wise you should be fine however. 32GB of internal storage will 
probably leave you with ~23GB of usable storage for maps for instance. 
Depending on (the number) of countries you want to visit and whether you 
have access to s broadband internet connection every now and then, you will 
do fine. You could always switch to an added sdcard if you think internal 
storage is not sufficient. Map size depends on many factors however; some 
have more details than others. To give you an example, Belgium and the 
Netherlands are somewhat comparable in 'real' size, but the map size on 
disk for The Netherlands is 2,5x that of Belgium (1600MB vs 600MB). Most 
countries are divided into 'chunks' (by province or district or something) 
as separate downloads of a couple of 100MB's '; so if you plan your route 
carefully, 23GB's will get you pretty far.

As for the advice to go for higher spec model phones; personally, I would 
stick with a relatively 'cheap' model as a dedicated nav device, mounted on 
your bike.

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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-14 Thread Poutnik
Dne 14/02/2018 v 12:38 nickjohnston...@gmail.com napsal(a):
> On Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:15:49 UTC, john whelan wrote:
>
> A suggestion only buy at least a 16 gig micro SD card to go in it
> especially if you're thinking of putting on a few mp3s.
>
>
>
> I'd take this a step further and suggest a 64 GB card. They are very
> reasonably priced now. When you use full maps, contour lines,
> hillshading, Wikipedia (not just in OsmAnd but with Kiwix too--Kiwix
> also allows you to get Wikivoyage offline which is very useful when
> travelling), 16 GB could easily be too little space.
>
> Buy a decent brand such as SanDisk. If buying on Amazon, make sure
> you're buying from Amazon themselves to reduce the risk of getting a fake.

Or, there are available with reasonable price
phones with 64 GB internal storage.

It may be advantage to prevent SD access issues
for technically challenged users.

E.g. Xiaomi MI A1(Android One) has 64 GB internal storage. + up to 128
GB SD,
4 GB RAM, octacore CPU,  currently Android 8 Oreo,
with regular monthly system updates in equivalent of about 250 $.

I am very satisfied with it.

I bet it would be cheaper in US due being a bigger market.

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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-14 Thread nickjohnstonsky
On Wednesday, 14 February 2018 02:15:49 UTC, john whelan wrote:
>
> A suggestion only buy at least a 16 gig micro SD card to go in it 
> especially if you're thinking of putting on a few mp3s.
>
>
>
I'd take this a step further and suggest a 64 GB card. They are very 
reasonably priced now. When you use full maps, contour lines, hillshading, 
Wikipedia (not just in OsmAnd but with Kiwix too--Kiwix also allows you to 
get Wikivoyage offline which is very useful when travelling), 16 GB could 
easily be too little space.

Buy a decent brand such as SanDisk. If buying on Amazon, make sure you're 
buying from Amazon themselves to reduce the risk of getting a fake.

Nick

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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-13 Thread john whelan
A suggestion only buy at least a 16 gig micro SD card to go in it
especially if you're thinking of putting on a few mp3s.

Cheerio John

On 13 February 2018 at 19:30, Tom Norton  wrote:

> Ni,
> Here is the phone I am looking at.
> http://bluproducts.com/devices/vivo-xl-2/
> Is Android 6.0 Marshmallow what I am looking for?
>
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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-13 Thread Tom Norton
Ni,
Here is the phone I am looking at.
http://bluproducts.com/devices/vivo-xl-2/
Is Android 6.0 Marshmallow what I am looking for?

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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-13 Thread Tom Norton
Ni, thanks for the reply! This is the info I need.

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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
> True, but as the OP stated: "Being quite tech challenged" and LineageOS 
> involving rooting, custom roms and such, I doubt that's a realistic option.

You don't have to do it yourself nor to do it right away.
IOW, it can be taken as a form of "insurance".


Stefan

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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-13 Thread niels via Osmand

True, but as the OP stated: "Being quite tech challenged" and LineageOS 
involving rooting, custom roms and such, I doubt that's a realistic option.

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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It requires Android v4.x at a minimum if I'm not mistaken, but you should 
> probably aim for an Android v5, 6, 7 or even 8.0 device because anything < 
> v5 is considered ancient and insecure.

Better yet: aim for a phone supported by LineageOS, so that you won't be
stuck at "whichever Android version it came with".


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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-13 Thread niels via Osmand
Yes, Android is - in my opinion - the preferred platform for OsmAnd. I use 
it on an old phone (Galaxy S 1) as a dedicated bike nav (phone in 
'flightmode'). It's remarkably versatile for navigation purposes, but 
you'll have to put in some time to get familiar with it and make it work 
effeciently, but perfectly usable as a go-anywhere-nav solution. 

It requires Android v4.x at a minimum if I'm not mistaken, but you should 
probably aim for an Android v5, 6, 7 or even 8.0 device because anything < 
v5 is considered ancient and insecure. And possibly, new versions of OsmAnd 
could become unsupported on lower Android versions. Any dual or quadcore 
processor model should suffice, preferably with 1GB or more RAM. More CPU 
and RAM means more speed, but usually also battery drain.

To store sufficient maps, you should probably go for either a decent amount 
of internal memory (> 8GB or 16GB) or store maps on an external microSD 
card (so the phone should have a sdcard slot). A big battery is mandatory, 
or you will quickly run out of power if the screen is on for several hours 
at higher brightness levels. At present, phone batteries of > 3000mAh are 
considered 'large' but there are models with far larger capacities. 
Usually, this is directly related to the screen diameter; the larger the 
screen the more power it consumes when powered on on high brightness 
levels. You could consider a smaller capacity model and use a powerbank to 
recharge it when you're on your way.

Lastly, you should probably look for a model that supports not only GPS, 
but also the GLONASS and BEIDOU alternatives; more satellites is always 
better for accuracy

Some practical advise; battery life and waterproofing the phone are 
probably the biggest challenges you'll face (apart from budget ofcourse :-) 
). Battery life is mainly determined by battery capacity and screen 
brightness (and size). A great feature of OsmAnd is that it can turn on the 
screen x seconds before every turn while navigating; be sure to check this 
out as it saves a lot of battery power (you'll be riding with the screen 
off for most of the time).

With my phone finetuned; I can ride for about 100-170km's on a single 
charge - depending on the conditions.

 

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Re: Osmand on a phone??

2018-02-12 Thread john whelan
Yes but it is a smaller screen.

Cheerio John

On 12 February 2018 at 19:21, Tom Norton  wrote:

> Being quite tech challenged I have a question. We will be cycle touring in
> Europe this year and I will be buying an unlocked cell phone. Can Osmand be
> used on an Android phone? Are there certain specs I need to be looking for?
> In the past I have used it on my Android tablet.
> Thanks!
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