Re: Optus to sell Office365

2014-08-01 Thread Bec Carter
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Re: Optus to sell Office365

2014-08-01 Thread Greg Wood
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Re: Optus to sell Office365

2014-06-29 Thread Greg Wood
Greg, I agree. Peripheral to the Office365 matter, I would like to see > Microsoft with a more prominent “marketing presence” than has been so in > the last many years. But not to the extent and manner of Apple Stores and > the Genius Bar. > > Perhaps the 3-year deal with Telstra

RE: Optus to sell Office365

2014-06-27 Thread ILT (O)
Greg, I agree. Peripheral to the Office365 matter, I would like to see Microsoft with a more prominent "marketing presence" than has been so in the last many years. But not to the extent and manner of Apple Stores and the Genius Bar. Perhaps the 3-year deal with Telstra hinged on Telst

Re: Optus to sell Office365

2014-06-27 Thread Stephen Price
:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *ILT (O) > *Sent:* Friday, 27 June 2014 7:56 PM > *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com > *Subject:* Optus to sell Office365 > > > > I know the Small Business IT professionals groups around Australia hav

RE: Optus to sell Office365

2014-06-27 Thread GregAtGregLowDotCom
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of ILT (O) Sent: Friday, 27 June 2014 7:56 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Optus to sell Office365 I know the Small Business IT professionals groups around Australia have been p!ssed off with O365 sales bei

Optus to sell Office365

2014-06-27 Thread ILT (O)
I know the Small Business IT professionals groups around Australia have been p!ssed off with O365 sales being Telstra-controlled for so long, so this announcement (SMH, today) is good

RE: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-15 Thread Tony Wright
xible. Finally the pricing. CVC blah blah too technical argument. Labor screwing us, Liberals decided to screw us even more and Tony Abbott is copper wire man. Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: David Connors Sent: 15/04/2013 9:10 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ?

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-15 Thread David Connors
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > So, I'm just asking for a 1st world economy that has two (or more) sets of > water, electricity, sewerage, roads, railway lines, fixed line telephony > etc. running in parallel servicing a broad customer base (e.g. more than a > million custo

RE: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-15 Thread Ken Schaefer
-Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Les Hughes Sent: Monday, 15 April 2013 2:55 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN. >> Most distribution networks are natural mono

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread Tony Wright
No matter which party gets in, its still an investment that looks like its going to happen, so the ROI is actually irrelevant. I guess it's all moot given that Liberals are highly likely to win anyway and blow all that money on a substandard system that doesn't solve the problem. The point of the

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread mike smith
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Les Hughes wrote: > mike smith wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 7:52 AM, David Connors > da...@connors.com>> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Les Hughes > > wrote: >> >> My opinion: Labor's NBN is a good

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread Les Hughes
mike smith wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 7:52 AM, David Connors > wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Les Hughes mailto:l...@datarev.com.au>> wrote: My opinion: Labor's NBN is a good idea. In reality it will probably take 2, 3, or more times as

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread mike smith
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 7:52 AM, David Connors wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Les Hughes wrote: > >> My opinion: Labor's NBN is a good idea. In reality it will probably take >> 2, 3, or more times as long, and be the same in cost. Is fibre great? Sure. >> Is fibre great at $10,000+ pe

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-14 Thread mike smith
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:02 AM, David Connors wrote: > (in fact I get 9.79Mbps up, 34.42Mbps down) Now if you say "but that's >> not from a CDN, sure, I agree, because a majority of them are currently in >> the USA. But without something like a fibre network in Australia, what >> incentive is

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread Les Hughes
David Connors wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Les Hughes > wrote: My opinion: Labor's NBN is a good idea. In reality it will probably take 2, 3, or more times as long, and be the same in cost. Is fibre great? Sure. Is fibre great at $10,000+ per ho

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-14 Thread David Connors
> > (in fact I get 9.79Mbps up, 34.42Mbps down) Now if you say "but that's > not from a CDN, sure, I agree, because a majority of them are currently in > the USA. But without something like a fibre network in Australia, what > incentive is there with ADSL's mediocre speeds to build them here? (H

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread David Connors
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Les Hughes wrote: > My opinion: Labor's NBN is a good idea. In reality it will probably take > 2, 3, or more times as long, and be the same in cost. Is fibre great? Sure. > Is fibre great at $10,000+ per house. No. Is $10,000 fibre per house even > better when it'

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread Les Hughes
Tony Wright wrote: It is absolutely Liberal vs Labor on this one, there is no other choice! Coke vs. Pepsi! Pirate Party? Liberal Democratic Party? Family First? Wikileaks? lots more! Sure, and the Liberals will probably win, but it doesn't mean that they will have the power to get the NBN th

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread Les Hughes
Ken Schaefer wrote: Did you read the link I posted to the economic definition of a "natural monopoly"? Sometimes it helps to draw upon the knowledge of others. It does, and it helps to understand the difference between real barriers and artificial barriers, and even understand that there ar

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread Glen Harvy
he first place. Since when did the Liberals become interested in interfering in the market? Answer: never, so why now? Sent from my Windows Phone From: Les Hughes Sent: 14/04/2013 8:30 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN. Heya Tony, I'm going to deconstruct a fe

RE: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread Tony Wright
Sent: 14/04/2013 8:30 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN. Heya Tony, I'm going to deconstruct a few things interspersed with your points: Tony Wright wrote: > Actually perhaps the word "natural" is confusing people. Technically the > exist

RE: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread Ken Schaefer
-Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Les Hughes Subject: Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN. Tony Wright wrote: >> Actually perhaps the word "natural" is confusing people. Technically

Re: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-14 Thread Les Hughes
Heya Tony, I'm going to deconstruct a few things interspersed with your points: Tony Wright wrote: Actually perhaps the word "natural" is confusing people. Technically the existing telephone network is a natural monopoly because it is prohibitively expensive for companies to compete with Telstra

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-14 Thread mike smith
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:20 AM, David Connors wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > >> Currently the NBN charges are regulated by the ACCC, and they’ve >> already signed a consent agreement around charges rising by less than the >> inflation rate (i.e. requiring intern

RE: Office365 ? Nope, now an argument on the NBN.

2013-04-13 Thread Tony Wright
he number of splices required over a long cable run. Multi-mode fiber is available in lengths up to 4 km, although industrial standards only mandate 2 km unbroken runs." -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behal

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread David Connors
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > > > This is all implementation detail as far as I can tell. You don’t know for > a certainty that this is how it’ll play out for 20 years, and you should > know, from your own examples of what has happened over the past 20 years, > that it

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread Les Hughes
Ken Schaefer wrote: *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Sunday, 14 April 2013 8:21 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Office365 ? On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Ken Schaefer <mailto:k...@adopenstatic.

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread Ken Schaefer
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Sunday, 14 April 2013 8:21 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Ken Schaefer mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote: Currently the NBN charg

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread David Connors
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > Currently the NBN charges are regulated by the ACCC, and they’ve already > signed a consent agreement around charges rising by less than the inflation > rate (i.e. requiring internal efficiencies). > The problem as you no doubt are aware is

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread Ken Schaefer
Connors Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013 6:32 PM To: g...@greglow.com; ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Greg Low (GregLow.com) mailto:g...@greglow.com>> wrote: While I’d love fibre to the house, project management is the one that’s my biggest concern. Clichés

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread Ken Schaefer
investment etc. (e.g. roads, pollution mitigation) Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013 5:45 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Tony Wright mailto:tonyw

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread Tony Wright
nbn is far superior. Its just a pity its so badly managed and that the Liberals will be just as bad or even worse. Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: David Connors Sent: 13/04/2013 6:32 PM To: g...@greglow.com; ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread David Connors
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Greg Low (GregLow.com) wrote: > While I’d love fibre to the house, project management is the one that’s my > biggest concern. Clichés about inability to run chook raffles, even when > given chooks, customers, wheels and comperes come to mind. > Yup. Just wait unti

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
3 5:45 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? And I've not event touched on the fact that this will be a project management failure case study for students to write essays on for years to come. They are rolling out at 0.3% of the pace they are supposed to last time I punched the n

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-13 Thread David Connors
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Tony Wright wrote: [ ... ] The whole point of the exercise is to give the vast majority of the > population the ability to connect at high speeds. When there's a reasonable > saturation of high speed internet, new services and businesses become > viable. New appl

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-12 Thread Tony Wright
Well, we all know what some of us not on NBN can get at the moment - it's 100Mbps down and 2Mbps up through Telstra. ADSL2+ gives you a maximum of 24Mbps up, and 1Mbps down (but never does due to distance from the exchange). Annex M improves on this, but NBN gives you close to 100Mbps down and clos

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-12 Thread David Connors
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Tony Wright wrote: > Either way, the Coalition policy sounds like a winner! 1/4 of the speed at > 2/3 of the price without actually solving the problem (decaying copper > lines) and all at the measly price of $20 billion for a do nothing > solution, yay! > > (Yep,

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Tony Wright
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Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread mike smith
>> Greg >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Dr Greg Low >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax >>> >>> >>> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownu

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2013-04-11 Thread mike smith
t; ** ** > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax > > > SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith &g

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2013-04-11 Thread Tony Wright
; SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith >> *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013 4:22 PM >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Su

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2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
bile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax > > > SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith > *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013 4:22 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:*

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
alf Of mike smith Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013 4:22 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Stephen Price mailto:step...@perthprojects.com> > wrote: This seems like an appropriate point to troll this thread and mention the NBN. Bwhahahahaha.. Hey

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2013-04-11 Thread mike smith
ards, >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Dr Greg Low >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax >>> &

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2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
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Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Stephen Price
* ** >> >> Greg >> >> ** ** >> >> Dr Greg Low >> >> ** ** >> >> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax >> >> >> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.co

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
* Friday, 12 April 2013 12:34 PM > *To:* Greg Low > *Cc:* ozDotNet; Corneliu I. Tusnea > *Subject:* Re: Office365 ? > > ** ** > > The solution for small business will be to wait for MS to do their own > voice in the same DCs. They need to digitus extractus and get > inf

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
From: David Connors [mailto:da...@connors.com] Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013 12:34 PM To: Greg Low Cc: ozDotNet; Corneliu I. Tusnea Subject: Re: Office365 ? The solution for small business will be to wait for MS to do their own voice in the same DCs. They need to digitus extractus and get infrastr

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Greg Low (GregLow.com) wrote: > Agreed, but not every Office365 customer is an enterprise customer. One of > the benefits of things like Office 365 is that it allows big company > options for small companies

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
Agreed, but not every Office365 customer is an enterprise customer. One of the benefits of things like Office 365 is that it allows big company options for small companies that couldn’t otherwise arrange it themselves, or don’t have the personnel to implement it. In most cases, I see these

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com > > ** ** > > *From:* Corneliu I. Tusnea [mailto:corne...@acorns.com.au] > *Sent:* Friday, 12 April 2013 11:36 AM > *To:* Greg Low; ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: Office365 ? > > ** ** > > Thanks, that's great info. > > ** ** &

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
DotNet Subject: Re: Office365 ? Thanks, that's great info. Any idea of a "low-cost" service to turn Lync into PABX? Could I connect it to my iiNet iiTalk? Could I buy Office365 + Lync E4 from US or is Telstra really the only option? Thanks, Corneliu. On Fri, Apr 12, 2

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2013-04-11 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
Thanks, that's great info. Any idea of a "low-cost" service to turn Lync into PABX? Could I connect it to my iiNet iiTalk? Could I buy Office365 + Lync E4 from US or is Telstra really the only option? Thanks, Corneliu. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Greg Low (GregLow.com) wr

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
y, 12 April 2013 10:18 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Office365 ? Hi, Anyone tried Office365 + Lync? Is it worth it? Is it only available via Telstra or can I buy it in other ways? How is customer support and what is the quality of Lync vs Skype? Thanks, Corneliu.

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
ge >>> are the biz! >>> >>> Lync never offered much to us. >>> >>> We skype between offices (US, NZ and UK), lync offered nothing much over >>> this. >>> >>> Sorry don't know about AU offerings. >>> >>> &

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
fferings. >> >> >> On 12 April 2013 12:18, Corneliu I. Tusnea wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Anyone tried Office365 + Lync? >>> Is it worth it? Is it only available via Telstra or can I buy it in >>> other ways? How is customer support and

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Preet Sangha
are > the biz! > > Lync never offered much to us. > > We skype between offices (US, NZ and UK), lync offered nothing much over > this. > > Sorry don't know about AU offerings. > > > On 12 April 2013 12:18, Corneliu I. Tusnea wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Preet Sangha
> Hi, > > Anyone tried Office365 + Lync? > Is it worth it? Is it only available via Telstra or can I buy it in other > ways? How is customer support and what is the quality of Lync vs Skype? > > Thanks, > Corneliu. > > -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland

Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
Hi, Anyone tried Office365 + Lync? Is it worth it? Is it only available via Telstra or can I buy it in other ways? How is customer support and what is the quality of Lync vs Skype? Thanks, Corneliu.