Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

2021-12-31 Thread Dr Greg Low
Pretty decent unlimited Git repos, agile/scrum style boards with item/workitem 
tracking, queries, and many visualisations and stakeholder access, build and 
release CI/CD pipelines with integrations for almost anything on-premises or 
cloud-based, and built with your choice of either an intuitive GUI or ugly 
YAML, build and release tracking, package feeds (nom, nuget, and other styles) 
with upstream feeds, versioning, and/or repackaging, manual test tracking, out 
of the box AAD integration, a marketplace with a very wide range of offerings.

And did I mention, free for teams of up to 5 users, and really low cost for 
bigger teams?

Use whatever Git client you want but I find the ones in VS and VS Code adequate 
when combined with Git for Windows.

Then it also directly integrates with other tools like ADF, etc.

Regards

Greg

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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  on behalf 
of Greg Keogh 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 5:07:38 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

Serious question: why not just do it all in Azure DevOps and avoid the 
complexity?

Sorry for the late reply, you went into spam for some reason (Google thinks 
you're suspicious!).

What is "all" the stuff I can do in DevOps, how?. In the web portal I can do 
some high-level work, but only a fraction of what I can do client-side in 
Visual Studio (or SourceTree or Gitkraken). Maybe I haven't explored all of the 
available features.

GK


Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

2021-12-30 Thread Greg Keogh
>
> I don't get why so many people like confluence. It is where information
> goes to die.
>

I'm stuck using it for a customer, but it's turned into a bit of a
sprawling mess and it's hard to find things. Confluence is just
"acceptable", but you'd expect something fancier and slicker from the
billionaire boys -- *GK*

P.S. Time to go out and get some champagne.


Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

2021-12-30 Thread Greg Keogh
>
> Serious question: why not just do it all in Azure DevOps and avoid the
> complexity?
>

Sorry for the late reply, you went into spam for some reason (Google thinks
you're suspicious!).

What is "all" the stuff I can do in DevOps, how?. In the web portal I can
do some high-level work, but only a fraction of what I can do client-side
in Visual Studio (or SourceTree or Gitkraken). Maybe I haven't explored all
of the available features.

*GK*

>


Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

2021-12-30 Thread David Connors
On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 2:31 pm, Dr Greg Low  wrote:

> The other day I had a half page of unhandled exception from Confluence.
> Apparently I should have realised it meant the password I entered didn't
> meet its complexity rules.
>
> I love to see a local company like Atlassian doing so well but whenever I
> use their software, I keep having "emperor's new clothes" moments.
>

I agree.

I don't get why so many people like confluence. It is where information
goes to die.
-- 

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Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

2021-12-30 Thread Dr Greg Low
Serious question: why not just do it all in Azure DevOps and avoid the 
complexity?

Regards

Greg

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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  on behalf 
of Greg Keogh 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 3:02:58 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

Gitkraken is very nice, and I do like the console integration it has now.

I'm trying it out now. I managed to get it integrated with my Bitbucket, GitHub 
and DevOps accounts (DevOps was a struggle as expected).

The "Workspace" feature is what I'm interested in, but the dialog makes no 
sense. I can only select repository locations GitHub and Bitbucket from the 
dropdown. My important stuff is in DevOps which isn't listed to pick. In 
SourceTree I could drop local repo folders into the tree, and I expected some 
similar feature.

Greg


Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

2021-12-30 Thread Dr Greg Low
The other day I had a half page of unhandled exception from Confluence. 
Apparently I should have realised it meant the password I entered didn't meet 
its complexity rules.

I love to see a local company like Atlassian doing so well but whenever I use 
their software, I keep having "emperor's new clothes" moments.

Regards

Greg

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  on behalf 
of Greg Keogh 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 3:02:58 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

Gitkraken is very nice, and I do like the console integration it has now.

I'm trying it out now. I managed to get it integrated with my Bitbucket, GitHub 
and DevOps accounts (DevOps was a struggle as expected).

The "Workspace" feature is what I'm interested in, but the dialog makes no 
sense. I can only select repository locations GitHub and Bitbucket from the 
dropdown. My important stuff is in DevOps which isn't listed to pick. In 
SourceTree I could drop local repo folders into the tree, and I expected some 
similar feature.

Greg


Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

2021-12-30 Thread Greg Keogh
>
> Gitkraken is very nice, and I do like the console integration it has now.
>

I'm trying it out now. I managed to get it integrated with my Bitbucket,
GitHub and DevOps accounts (DevOps was a struggle as expected).

The "Workspace" feature is what I'm interested in, but the dialog makes no
sense. I can only select repository locations GitHub and Bitbucket from the
dropdown. My important stuff is in DevOps which isn't listed to pick. In
SourceTree I could drop local repo folders into the tree, and I expected
some similar feature.


*Greg*

>


Re: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

2021-12-30 Thread Stephen Price
Gitkraken is very nice, and I do like the console integration it has now.

cheers,
Stephen

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  on behalf 
of Greg Keogh 
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 6:39 AM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: [OT] Atlassian SourceTree

The program SourceTree must be one of the most amateurish bug-riddled 
incomprehensible unpredictable prices of crap software ever produced by a large 
company. I wish I could invoice Atlassian for the man-days and suffering I have 
endured trying to keep the stupid thing working over the last decade.

All of my Personal Access Tokens expired today, so I regenerated fresh ones 
everywhere, but I cannot update, reset or recreate the accounts in SourceTree 
to get them working again. After 2 hours of more futile suffering I have 
decided to abandon SourceTree forever and never see the steaming pile again. I 
have deleted every file and registry entry with the words "Atlassian" or 
"SourceTree" in them (it leaves it's smelly footprint everywhere).

SourceTree is a fossil anyway because Visual Studio now does almost everything 
it used to do in a superior integrated way. However... SourceTree could hold a 
nice organised tree of all your local repos and you could browse over it and 
quickly for an overview. That feature I will miss, so I'm wondering if there is 
a replacement. I can't find a "repo organiser" in Visual Studio, but maybe I've 
missed it, or maybe there is a better app for that. Any suggestions?

Greg K