Re: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: response from Pat and Nicky and fetal hearts

2003-12-06 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Marilyn As you said As you know there is an art to > being with woman in birth. I was wondering what is your response to Maggie Banks' article?? But Whose Art Frames the Questions? Midwives need to be vigilant to ensure the defining of appropriate midwifery practice is not colonized by obstet

Re: [ozmidwifery] posterior

2003-12-06 Thread Mary Murphy
Sue wrote: > If you go to the gentlebirth website www.gentlebirth.org, you will find a> good paper on optimal fetal positioning > If you click on "perspectives on normal birth" you will see why the WHO says the C/S rate should be no more than 15%. MM

[ozmidwifery] FH monitoring

2003-12-06 Thread Graham and Helen
Have been reading the debate about fetal heart monitoring with interest.  Has anyone been able to find out how often Dutch homebirth midwives listen to the FH once they do arrive on the scene?  I have heard that they try not to come to the home until they think the birth is imminent anyway,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: fetal hearts

2003-12-06 Thread Cheryl LHK
As a midwife I keep a fairly close eye on FHR and rarely use the CTG for a trace unless I'm REALLY concerned. And in second stage probably every 5 mins or so - using my discretion. I must admit getting a bit antsy about FHR's though, as had a young multi present to hospital early morning in

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: response from Pat and Nicky and fetal hearts

2003-12-06 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Hi Jo: Because you were contracting so frequently and the FHR was fine is probably why your midwife chose to listen after every other contraction. As I said earlier the guideline everywhere I have worked (home and hospital)has been "after every ctx or every 5 minutes" obviously with the caveat 'u

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: response from Pat and Nicky and fetal hearts

2003-12-06 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
HI Jo: Listening in second stage is the only time one would listen after every contraction which is often written "after every contraction or every 5 minutes", if I typed every 2 it was a typo. And that would be active 2nd stage. Should not be done so it interfers with any position the mother want

RE: [ozmidwifery] I've had a baby (long)

2003-12-06 Thread Vance & Edwina
Dear Jackie, Andrew and Ena,   Congratulations to you all!  What a wonderful birth story, I can see the smile on your face from here!!. I am so happy for you, especially Jackie whom I have met and always admired as a midwifery role model and a mentor during my grad program.  Lots of love

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: fetal hearts

2003-12-06 Thread Ron & Nicole Christensen
I too did not mind my midwives checking my baby's heart rate during labour. I remember them doing it in a very non-intrusive way (and not overly regular also) - they actually got down on the ground and contorted, to listen - when I was in my different positions - so it went with the flow - not act

Re: [ozmidwifery] babies in recovery room

2003-12-06 Thread Ron & Nicole Christensen
Title: Message It is good to hear these stories of hospitals who keep newborns where they should be - with their mother after birth. If not - I wish all Mums to be as strong and empowered as Cas has suggested - and DEMAND that baby stay with them - OR ELSE!!!   Nicole - Original Messa

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fwd: response from Pat and Nicky and fetal hearts

2003-12-06 Thread Jo Bourne
I do actually recall my midwife listening to DDs fetal heart tones being either painful (because I had to change positions, even slightly was enough to increase pain) or distracting, but I also recall being pleased to hear that all was ok, and being intellectually aware that it was part of my mi