Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL

2004-02-23 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
I guess anecdotal evidence will not suffice for this gentleman, umh! If photographic eveidence is required then you could have high speed film, slow shutter speed and while you prolly wont get a great photo, you may have some evidence in the future. I had my camera set up like this for the

[ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Alphia Possamai-Inesedy
Jen, I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news

Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL

2004-02-23 Thread Andrea Bilcliff
Hi Mary, You can tell the paediatric registrar that there are photosof babies being born in the caul at: http://www.birthdiaries.com/diary/39vbirth.htm(scroll down a few photos) and http://www.midwives.net/hsh/caul.htm Hope that helps! Andrea Bilcliff - Original Message -

[ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Jo Bourne
I just sent a letter to australian unity asking what cover they would give me for a home birth. They give about $640 for a private midwife in hospital birth situation (some for prenantal, some for post and a small fee for the birth). They give $2000 for a homebirth if you organise it with them

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Sally Westbury
HBF in Western Australia refund $1400 for a homebirth or a private midwife in a public hospital. Sally Westbury -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery]

[ozmidwifery] flash photography during birth

2004-02-23 Thread Jen Semple
Marilyn, was this true amongst homebirthers in Seattle too? That's really interesting. JenMarilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess anecdotal evidence will not suffice for this gentleman, umh! If photographic eveidence is required then you could have high speed film, slow shutter speed

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Jo Bourne
speaking about insurance, I just called our previous insurer to see if they would match Australian Unity before changing over (they pay a maximum of $500). They wouldn't because Its a lesser level of care than you would receive in hospital to have a home birth. I couldn't help myself, I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Jen Semple
A few others that I've heard of... A fabulous member of MC employee of the RAAF (air force) in Vic has just negotiated to have MIPP services included in the RAAF health insurance policy (both for currently employeed former employees). I would assume that would be nationally. Not sure whether

Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL

2004-02-23 Thread Denise Hynd
What a sad/poor reflection of what happens in hospital birth!! I had not seen or been involved in such until I started attending Homebirths!I remember the first time wsatching inititially wondering what was happening then my first catch of a baby in the Caul being my own "now what is it I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Alphia Possamai-Inesedy
Thanks everyone - I will chase all of this up. Take care Alphia At 10:30 AM 24/02/2004, you wrote: I just sent a letter to australian unity asking what cover they would give me for a home birth. They give about $640 for a private midwife in hospital birth situation (some for prenantal, some for

Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL

2004-02-23 Thread Jen Semple
Hehehe, the obvious question from the midwife student for you wise midwives... What DO you do?! :o) JenDenise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a sad/poor reflection of what happens in hospital birth!! I had not seen or been involved in such until I started attending Homebirths!I remember

Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL

2004-02-23 Thread Denise Hynd
Jen The midwives I have been with at home from whom I have learnt most therefore what I did was to leave it intact till the babies head was out - as it acts as a cushion for the mother and baby. Also based on Michle Odent's theory about waterbirth's why the baby does not breathe under

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?

2004-02-23 Thread Larry Megan
We are with Defence Health and they cover midwifery, so many pre and post natal visits and X amount for birth, cant remember the actual payout though. My understanding is that its not uncommon for the midwife to arrange the costs on paper so as to maximise pay outs. I have done the ring

Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL

2004-02-23 Thread Jen Semple
Interesting. Thanks Denise! JenDenise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jen The midwives I have been with at home from whom I have learnt most therefore what I did was to leave it intact till the babies head was out - as it acts as a cushion for the mother and baby. Also based on Michle Odent's

[ozmidwifery] Just when you thought it was safe!

2004-02-23 Thread Dean Jo Bainbridge
Hello everyone! Just thought I would step up on my soap box once again and find out how everyone is doing these days! I have still been a lurker on the ausbirthing list so got a gist of some things that have happened (not all good). For those who dont know me, or who have undergone

Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL

2004-02-23 Thread Irene Gordon
Sorry no photos but I have had a baby birth this way and I know ir is possible. - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:08 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL Today a paediatric registrar told me that it was

RE: [ozmidwifery] Just when you thought it was safe!

2004-02-23 Thread Dean Jo Bainbridge
Hi Julie, Glad to see you are still on the list. I am proud to tell you that I have finally decided what I want to be when I grow up! (It only took until I was 30!) I have decided to do the child birth educator course thru ACE. Unfortunately I am still an under grad so I will have to see