Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.

2005-07-28 Thread Emily
hi there i did quite a bit of research last year on ECV and i was under the impression the optimal time to attempt ECV is actually 37 weeks. at 34 weeks you actually have a higher inital success rate but also a much higher rate of reversion so you may end up just having to do it again. and even

[ozmidwifery] transverse

2005-07-28 Thread Sally Westbury
So why is it that ecv is not promoted for transverse lay? Sally -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] triplet birth

2005-07-28 Thread wendy hoey
Thanks Brenda and Judy, The Mum I looked after was Thai, spoke very little englishand had shared care with a lovely GP ie. came to the hospital system late. I wondered how many of the "risks" she had taken onboard with the communication problem. She was a multi and when she came

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination

2005-07-28 Thread jesse/jayne
You might think that skipping it is OK but you actually get a letter stating that you have not had your child vaccinated against HepB, so Big Brothers watches. Diane So? You're already being watched/tracked thru medicare/tax office/centrelink etc etc etc. When I started to receive

Re: [ozmidwifery] transverse

2005-07-28 Thread Emily
hi all it is recommended in some cases. If membranes are intact, version to cephalic or breech presentation can be tried. I only know of one report on this : a series of 12 women in labor with a transverse lie who were managed with external version under tocolysis. It was successful in ten women

Re: [ozmidwifery] transverse

2005-07-28 Thread Emily
i forgot to say that if ECV is done before labour in a transverse lie, people usually induce the woman soon after because theres a much higher rate of reversion than with breech turns. so its a question of whether to wait and try ECV again if needed or induce while the babys in a longitudinal

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination

2005-07-28 Thread brendamanning
Good on you Jayne. Sometimes challenging the system is the only way to make their bullying/intimidating stop. Brenda - Original Message - From: jesse/jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]

Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal heart monitoring.

2005-07-28 Thread G Lemay
Sally Westbury wrote: What I find really interesting is that I can see lots of obstetric guidelines but no midwifery guidelines. Sally Another interesting thing about taking fetal heart tones in ANY way is that it's not an evidence based practise. It's

Re: [ozmidwifery] Rh anti-D

2005-07-28 Thread G Lemay
Yes, mistakes can be made by hosp labs on the blood typing of the newborn. Happened to me. Two neg parents, first child neg. Normally I wouldn't have even checked the bld type of the 2nd child but the parents wanted the ABO group. Monogamous couple. Had to beg to have the lab check again.

[ozmidwifery] Chemical exposure in utero

2005-07-28 Thread G Lemay
CHEMICAL EXPOSURE IN UTERO A new chemical study of umbilical cord samples from the American Red Cross has found that babies have an average of 200 known toxic chemicals in their blood, including mercury, fire retardants, pesticides and a chemical used in the production of Teflon, even before

Re: [ozmidwifery] Rh anti-D

2005-07-28 Thread Fiona Rumble
In my original post I was making a suggestion based on natural selection not knowing that the neg gene is always recessive (yes I also did some research). Because the negative gene IS RECESSIVE two negative parents have only negative genes to pass on and therefore cannot have a positive

RE: [ozmidwifery] triplet birth

2005-07-28 Thread Barbara Stokes
Dear Wendy and all, Naturally conceived and vaginal birth of triplets happened at Parkes (home of The Dish) 23 years ago, before ultrasound was available locally. We were confident of twins, all babies did well. These days we are not allowed to birth twins! Barbara -Original

Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.

2005-07-28 Thread Lindsay Yvette
Thanks Gloria. It's encouraging that you reckon it's very unlikely they'll stay transverse. My friend is currently 36 weeks with same kind of twins, hers have been both head down for ages, now the higher one is transverse. I gather if at least the lower one gets her head lined up nicely

Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.

2005-07-28 Thread Gloria Lemay
I've been told that once the first twin is birthed, the second attendant should stand behind the mother and press attendants' hands firmly against the sides of the uterus from the backto encourage the second one to be a longitudinal lies. Has anyone on this list done this? I have virtually

Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.

2005-07-28 Thread brendamanning
Gloria, Would you be happy to share the name where that DVD can be found.? It could be inspirational for some women ( and OBs) here ? Thanks Brenda M - Original Message - From: Gloria Lemay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 11:09 AM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.

2005-07-28 Thread Gloria Lemay
Here's her website, it has lots of stills of the births but the DVD is just so special. Highly recommended. http://www.earthbirthproductions.com/index_files/Page864.htm - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, July

Re: [ozmidwifery] triplet birth

2005-07-28 Thread Susan Cudlipp
(With tongue firmly in cheek) Phoebe (Friends) had vaginal triplets a few years ago - I was amazed that an American show would have a natural birth let alone a natural multiple birth. Then Rachel had a vaginal breech too - not diagnosed til 2nd stage. We had this discussion some time back

Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.

2005-07-28 Thread Susan Cudlipp
This is also advertised in the recent Ace Graphics book. I read the advert and would love to see it. Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Gloria Lemay To:

Fw: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.

2005-07-28 Thread Lindsay Yvette
- Original Message - From: Lindsay Yvette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation. Thanks Jo, that's really good to know just in case that happened to me. I'll

Re: [ozmidwifery] drs getting paid to vaccinate

2005-07-28 Thread abby_toby
I also choose to vaccinate my children and myself (working in the healthcare field) as I believe the benefit to the greater whole (community) outweighs any possible adverse reaction from the vaccination. I have made an informed choice and should the unthinkable happen I would in no way

[ozmidwifery] Independant Midwife in Sydney

2005-07-28 Thread Honey Acharya
Hi All Are there any midwives willing to work in the richmond area (for a woman 2nd bub due March 05) that are happy for me to pass on their contact details to her. I know a few of you who work in Sydney but thought it best to ask as I'm not sure who is near Richmond. You can reply to me

Re: [ozmidwifery] drs getting paid to vaccinate

2005-07-28 Thread Jo Bourne
actually they are still giving the live polio vaccine, I discussed this with my GP just a few weeks ago as polio, tetanus anddiphtheria are the only ones we are remotely considering giving our daughter (3.5 yrs) and she said it would be next year before the injectable (killed) polio would be