[ozmidwifery] Midwifery Today magazines

Dear all, I am interested in studying midwifery in the next couple of years. In the meantime I am doing self directed study inbetween attending my children and family reponsibilities. I would like to buy back issues of the US magazine publication 'Midwifery Today', and wondered if anyone

Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

And a very nice butt it is too Jo - not that I looked of course :-) Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: "Jo Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: [ozmi

Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

Great picture!  But actually I've always looked at the dark pigmentation either side, rather than the purple line and it seems to be pretty accurate in indicating dilatation.   Cheers MichelleJo Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked

RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

LOL you make me laugh...never mind the email...as long as you keep the baby forever...! I hope I didn't sound patronising, it's just that I think we can get stuck on thinking that this is the way to assess labour, just like some practitioners are stuck believing that the only way is to do repeated

Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

Good point, Tania. It's not the only tool. I'll have to get a pic of my butt again next baby to compare the visibility of TPL. Stunning, eh? Well, I think I will have to keep this email forever :) Thanks ;) Jo On 01/09/2006, at 11:35 AM, Tania Smallwood wrote: Megan, There was a pape

RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

For anyone who's interested, the original piece of research was pubished in the Lancet 1997, 335(8681): 122 entitled Clinical Method for Evaluat Can hardly believe I could put my hands on it that quickly! I just remember coming across it when I did my Mid and being fascinated by it all... Tania

RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

Megan, There was a paper published in the Practising Midwife in 1998 by Lesley Hobbs called Assessing cervical dilatation without VE's, Watching the Purple Line, looking at this phenomena and the research study that had put forward the hypothesis that the purple line that creeps up the 'bum clea

RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

Thanks for that, now I will have to scan my videos for my "purple line". -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikki Macfarlane Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:58 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

As the baby's head descends Megan, the sacrum moves out and this results in the line appearing. It is something you statr to see, in most cases, when the woman is fully dilated, so is a great visual clue as to the stage of labour she is at. Occasionally you also see it earlier in labour if the

Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

Absolutely fabulous Jo!!! Cheers, Sadie - Original Message - From: "Jo Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it all out, and there it is:

RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

For us non-midwives, now that I've seen the photo and understand the "purple line", what does this mean regarding the birthing woman? Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:42 PM To: ozmidwifery@a

RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: RWH - Pain Relief Comment on Website

I disagree strongly with this section of the RWH website (below). I think many women who birth without pain relief are dismissed as having been "lucky" to have had an "easy labour". Women who birth naturally are often not credited with managing their own pain and are not recognised as having inf

[ozmidwifery] The Purple Line

I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it all out, and there it is: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/Notchalk/100_5129.jpg :) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to clarify myself!! Coles Baby

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to clarify myself!! Coles Baby Hi Kelly, If I have answered this already please ignore. I was the editor of Coles Baby magazine for 4 years, from its beginning. I would not blame the journalist's hearing. It is far more likely that the copy was edited to doctor fr

[ozmidwifery] Cord clamping

Timing of cord clamping revisited - Journal of Perinatal Medicine , vol 34, no 4, 2006, pp 293-297 Levy T; Blickstein I - (2006) Although cord cutting has been performed since the beginning of mankind, the timing and advantages of early versus delayed cord clamping are still controversial.

Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to clarify myself!! Coles Baby

Makes sense though, the fact that all 3 of us interviewd wanted a home birth with NO doctors...perhaps its not the message they were quite willing to convey. Just glad it was your quote Kelly and not mine X  lol   - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly

RE: [ozmidwifery] I need to clarify myself!! Coles Baby

A I thought it was a bit weird how they worded it… they added to my comments ‘…. and a doctor if needed…’ - why on earth would I say that! It’s a lot to have made a mistake over so I have no doubt you are right. Very frustrating when you are trying to get across a positive, confident im

Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to clarify myself!! Coles Baby

Hi Kelly, If I have answered this already please ignore. I was the editor of Coles Baby magazine for 4 years, from its beginning. I would not blame the journalist's hearing. It is far more likely that the copy was edited to doctor from doula as the magazine content is closely monitored by th

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

Hey this is popular by demand. Me too please, Thanks Debbie - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations I would love a picture as we

RE: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

Me too please J I promise not to look LOL J   Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

I would love a picture as well =)   Päivi - Original Message - From: Mike & Lindsay Kennedy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 1:44 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations Hi would also like your photoLinz On 8/

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

Hi would also like your photoLinzOn 8/30/06, Jo Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Two words:PURPLE LINEI have a great photo of mine (thanks for pointing it out, Mary!) :)JoOn 30/08/2006, at 9:31 PM, Sally @ home wrote:> Just to add to this...> There was an extremely heated discussion at a meeting w

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

Sally @ home wrote: Exactly, Shelley. In practice I do very few VE's as well, relying on all the external signs we, as midwives, use everyday. However, having one's knowledge and experienced completely disregarded is extremely disheartening. We are organising a forum to try and alter the po

[ozmidwifery] Epidural teaching aid

On Wednesday night on "The Inventors" (ABC TV) , a new teaching aid for training doctors to insert epidurals was demonstrated. It was very sophisticated, using real time computer graphics that said "ouch" when the needle was wrongly placed and a graphical display that showed the operator exact

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

Sally Checking my list of favorites here are some links and references that may be useful Shelly http://www.uclan.ac.uk/facs/health/midwifery/research/sdowne.htm Bergstrom L, Roberts J, Skillman L et al (1992). ` "You'll feel me touching you, Sweetie": Vaginal examinations during the second sta

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

Exactly, Shelley. In practice I do very few VE's as well, relying on all the external signs we, as midwives, use everyday. However, having one's knowledge and experienced completely disregarded is extremely disheartening. We are organising a forum to try and alter the policy/guideline, but ha

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

Introducing myself and replying at the same time. My name is Shelly I am a midwife in England and the mother of two boys. We are thinking of a move to Aus and so joined this list as it came recomended. I am on a few lists in the UK. Sadly for the medics much of what midwives do is art and not sc

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vaginal examinations

Dear Sally Can I suggest you email Sara Wickham who has a chapter written in her book abt not doing VE's in labour written by Lesley Hobbs may be helpful to get some research sent to you asap [EMAIL PROTECTED] also on the gentle birth website (also pasted below) are some links to research

Re: [ozmidwifery] Jenni Doherty from HBA just called...

All this jumping thru hoops for them when the proof is staring them in the face.  What more do they want?  HBA covered a teeny portion of my 1st home birth almost 13 years ago - I found it pathetic and told them so.  When there was nothing more on offer I walked away from them.  Sounds like

[ozmidwifery] Jenni Doherty from HBA just called...

… and effectively of now the pilot program is no longer. Anyone currently corresponding with her will have their birth honoured but no more women will be accepted until a formal business decision has been made. She said the pilot program has been a huge success, however now it’s time for th