Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
It is sometimes called the Hobbs line Sonja - Original Message - From: Gail McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line This is really interesting. As a student I have access to hundreds of databases. I went straight to Lancet to access the article. (Actually, it is 1990, 335(8681), not 1997. Anyway, guess what? While the article is listed in the contents page at the front, it cannot be accessed. I tried all the databases none of them will let me have it. Hmmm.Mayhaps one will have to dig out an actual copy of the magazine to find it. Tell me again...Who controls access to information? Should I expect a knock on the door anytime soon? From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:25:08 +0930 Hi Mary, The reference from the article by Lesley Hobbs is the article that was initially published in the Lancet.here is the complete reference from the Hobbs article. Byrne DL, Edmonds DK. Clinical method for evaluating progress in the first stage of labour. Lancet 1997; 335(8681): 122 I haven't actually seen the original study, just came across the Hobbs article when I was doing my Mid training in 1998. She was published in the Practising Midwife, in November 1998 Volume 1 Number 11 p 34-35. I have often thought how great it would be to have some more compelling evidence, in this age of having to justify everything with the research, but the idea of conducting a study, and comparing length of purple line to cervical dilatation on women throughout labour seems just unthinkable. So I think it will have to be one of those things that we see, and perhaps report on in a retrospective manner. Perhaps a national purple line database.just thoughts! I think Heather Hancock from Uni SA was considering doing some research using photos and then looking at the time of the photo showing the elongated purple line, with the time of birth, and using that comparison to propose that it could be used as a complementary tool when assessing a woman's progress in labour. Haven't heard anything else about it though. Tania xx _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Monday, 4 September 2006 7:57 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line Tania, could I please have a few more details? E.g. author and complete title of article? I am also puzzled by the (8681). I can't seem to access it with the details you provided. Thanks, MM Tania wrote: For anyone who's interested, the original piece of research was pubished in the Lancet 1997, 335(8681): 122 entitled Clinical Method for Evaluat -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 1/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 1/09/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
That is such a good point because people who have never seen women upright are so surprised when you point it out to them Andrea On 03/09/2006, at 3:15 PM, Synnes wrote: H! Now that would be hard to see if you have the birthing mum restricted on her back on the bed, wouldn't it Amanda - Original Message - From: Nikki Macfarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line As the baby's head descends Megan, the sacrum moves out and this results in the line appearing. It is something you statr to see, in most cases, when the woman is fully dilated, so is a great visual clue as to the stage of labour she is at. Occasionally you also see it earlier in labour if the baby is posterior and rotating past the sacrum. In this case though it does not tend ot be as long and disappears again as the baby rotates towards the mother's left hip. Nikki Macfarlane Childbirth International www.childbirthinternational.com - Original Message - From: Megan Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line For us non-midwives, now that I've seen the photo and understand the purple line, what does this mean regarding the birthing woman? Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
Tania, could I please have a few more details? E.g. author and complete title of article? I am also puzzled by the (8681). I cant seem to access it with the details you provided. Thanks, MM Tania wrote: For anyone who's interested, the original piece of research was pubished in the Lancet 1997, 335(8681): 122 entitled Clinical Method for Evaluat
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
Mary,the article is called, 'Clinical method for evaluating progress in the first stage of labour' Byrne DL, Edmonds DK. Lancet 1997; Volume 335(Issue 8681): pp-122hope this helps.cheersbec Rebecca Gaiewski[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 04/09/2006, at 8:26 AM, Mary Murphy wrote:Tania, could I please have a few more details? E.g. author and complete title of article? I am also puzzled by the (8681). I can’t seem to access it with the details you provided. Thanks, MM Tania wrote:For anyone who's interested, the original piece of research was pubished inthe Lancet 1997, 335(8681): 122 entitled Clinical Method for Evaluat
RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
Hi Mary, The reference from the article by Lesley Hobbs is the article that was initially published in the Lancethere is the complete reference from the Hobbs article Byrne DL, Edmonds DK. Clinical method for evaluating progress in the first stage of labour. Lancet 1997; 335(8681): 122 I havent actually seen the original study, just came across the Hobbs article when I was doing my Mid training in 1998. She was published in the Practising Midwife, in November 1998 Volume 1 Number 11 p 34-35. I have often thought how great it would be to have some more compelling evidence, in this age of having to justify everything with the research, but the idea of conducting a study, and comparing length of purple line to cervical dilatation on women throughout labour seems just unthinkable. So I think it will have to be one of those things that we see, and perhaps report on in a retrospective manner. Perhaps a national purple line databasejust thoughts! I think Heather Hancock from Uni SA was considering doing some research using photos and then looking at the time of the photo showing the elongated purple line, with the time of birth, and using that comparison to propose that it could be used as a complementary tool when assessing a womans progress in labour. Havent heard anything else about it though Tania xx From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Monday, 4 September 2006 7:57 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line Tania, could I please have a few more details? E.g. author and complete title of article? I am also puzzled by the (8681). I cant seem to access it with the details you provided. Thanks, MM Tania wrote: For anyone who's interested, the original piece of research was pubished in the Lancet 1997, 335(8681): 122 entitled Clinical Method for Evaluat -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 1/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 1/09/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
This is really interesting. As a student I have access to hundreds of databases. I went straight to Lancet to access the article. (Actually, it is 1990, 335(8681), not 1997. Anyway, guess what? While the article is listed in the contents page at the front, it cannot be accessed. I tried all the databases none of them will let me have it. Hmmm.Mayhaps one will have to dig out an actual copy of the magazine to find it. Tell me again...Who controls access to information? Should I expect a knock on the door anytime soon? From: Tania Smallwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:25:08 +0930 Hi Mary, The reference from the article by Lesley Hobbs is the article that was initially published in the Lancet here is the complete reference from the Hobbs article Byrne DL, Edmonds DK. Clinical method for evaluating progress in the first stage of labour. Lancet 1997; 335(8681): 122 I havent actually seen the original study, just came across the Hobbs article when I was doing my Mid training in 1998. She was published in the Practising Midwife, in November 1998 Volume 1 Number 11 p 34-35. I have often thought how great it would be to have some more compelling evidence, in this age of having to justify everything with the research, but the idea of conducting a study, and comparing length of purple line to cervical dilatation on women throughout labour seems just unthinkable. So I think it will have to be one of those things that we see, and perhaps report on in a retrospective manner. Perhaps a national purple line database just thoughts! I think Heather Hancock from Uni SA was considering doing some research using photos and then looking at the time of the photo showing the elongated purple line, with the time of birth, and using that comparison to propose that it could be used as a complementary tool when assessing a womans progress in labour. Havent heard anything else about it though Tania xx _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Monday, 4 September 2006 7:57 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line Tania, could I please have a few more details? E.g. author and complete title of article? I am also puzzled by the (8681). I cant seem to access it with the details you provided. Thanks, MM Tania wrote: For anyone who's interested, the original piece of research was pubished in the Lancet 1997, 335(8681): 122 entitled Clinical Method for Evaluat -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 1/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 1/09/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
And a very nice butt it is too Jo - not that I looked of course :-) Sue The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Jo Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it all out, and there it is: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/Notchalk/100_5129.jpg :) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
Heh Heh BIG smile Mary! - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 11:12 AM Jo, I had forgotten just how clear the photo was. No wonder I went running to the car for my birth kit! Cheers, Mary M -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
LOL I didn't even notice you left! Jo :) On 01/09/2006, at 3:12 PM, Mary Murphy wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 11:12 AM Jo, I had forgotten just how clear the photo was. No wonder I went running to the car for my birth kit! Cheers, Mary M -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
For us non-midwives, now that I've seen the photo and understand the purple line, what does this mean regarding the birthing woman? Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:42 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it all out, and there it is: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/Notchalk/100_5129.jpg :) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
Absolutely fabulous Jo!!! Cheers, Sadie - Original Message - From: Jo Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it all out, and there it is: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/Notchalk/100_5129.jpg :) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
As the baby's head descends Megan, the sacrum moves out and this results in the line appearing. It is something you statr to see, in most cases, when the woman is fully dilated, so is a great visual clue as to the stage of labour she is at. Occasionally you also see it earlier in labour if the baby is posterior and rotating past the sacrum. In this case though it does not tend ot be as long and disappears again as the baby rotates towards the mother's left hip. Nikki Macfarlane Childbirth International www.childbirthinternational.com - Original Message - From: Megan Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line For us non-midwives, now that I've seen the photo and understand the purple line, what does this mean regarding the birthing woman? Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
Thanks for that, now I will have to scan my videos for my purple line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nikki Macfarlane Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:58 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line As the baby's head descends Megan, the sacrum moves out and this results in the line appearing. It is something you statr to see, in most cases, when the woman is fully dilated, so is a great visual clue as to the stage of labour she is at. Occasionally you also see it earlier in labour if the baby is posterior and rotating past the sacrum. In this case though it does not tend ot be as long and disappears again as the baby rotates towards the mother's left hip. Nikki Macfarlane Childbirth International www.childbirthinternational.com - Original Message - From: Megan Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line For us non-midwives, now that I've seen the photo and understand the purple line, what does this mean regarding the birthing woman? Megan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
Megan, There was a paper published in the Practising Midwife in 1998 by Lesley Hobbs called Assessing cervical dilatation without VE's, Watching the Purple Line, looking at this phenomena and the research study that had put forward the hypothesis that the purple line that creeps up the 'bum cleavage' can be used as a measure of cervical dilatation... Can I just say that while I agree wholeheartedly with what's being said about trusting women, and looking for other signs of progress, the purple lines that I've seen (and yours is rather stunning if I may say so myself Jo :)) have been much more visible and definite with women having their first babies, and not as reliably visible with women having second and subsequent babies. So while it's a valuable tool to keep in mind, please don't think a woman isn't progressing just because there is no purple line, or if it's faint... Cheers Tania -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan Larry Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:50 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line For us non-midwives, now that I've seen the photo and understand the purple line, what does this mean regarding the birthing woman? Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:42 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it all out, and there it is: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/Notchalk/100_5129.jpg :) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
For anyone who's interested, the original piece of research was pubished in the Lancet 1997, 335(8681): 122 entitled Clinical Method for Evaluat Can hardly believe I could put my hands on it that quickly! I just remember coming across it when I did my Mid and being fascinated by it all... Tania -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
Good point, Tania. It's not the only tool. I'll have to get a pic of my butt again next baby to compare the visibility of TPL. Stunning, eh? Well, I think I will have to keep this email forever :) Thanks ;) Jo On 01/09/2006, at 11:35 AM, Tania Smallwood wrote: Megan, There was a paper published in the Practising Midwife in 1998 by Lesley Hobbs called Assessing cervical dilatation without VE's, Watching the Purple Line, looking at this phenomena and the research study that had put forward the hypothesis that the purple line that creeps up the 'bum cleavage' can be used as a measure of cervical dilatation... Can I just say that while I agree wholeheartedly with what's being said about trusting women, and looking for other signs of progress, the purple lines that I've seen (and yours is rather stunning if I may say so myself Jo :)) have been much more visible and definite with women having their first babies, and not as reliably visible with women having second and subsequent babies. So while it's a valuable tool to keep in mind, please don't think a woman isn't progressing just because there is no purple line, or if it's faint... Cheers Tania -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan Larry Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:50 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line For us non-midwives, now that I've seen the photo and understand the purple line, what does this mean regarding the birthing woman? Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:42 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it all out, and there it is: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/Notchalk/100_5129.jpg :) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
LOL you make me laugh...never mind the email...as long as you keep the baby forever...! I hope I didn't sound patronising, it's just that I think we can get stuck on thinking that this is the way to assess labour, just like some practitioners are stuck believing that the only way is to do repeated VE's...I really believe that being mindful that every woman, and every labour is different is the only way to personalise care, and give women what they deserve - a care provider that trusts that she can do it, with a goodie bag (both material and metaphorical) full of things to use along the way if facilitation or assistance is required. Just my two bob's worth, Tania xxx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 1:25 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line Good point, Tania. It's not the only tool. I'll have to get a pic of my butt again next baby to compare the visibility of TPL. Stunning, eh? Well, I think I will have to keep this email forever :) Thanks ;) Jo On 01/09/2006, at 11:35 AM, Tania Smallwood wrote: Megan, There was a paper published in the Practising Midwife in 1998 by Lesley Hobbs called Assessing cervical dilatation without VE's, Watching the Purple Line, looking at this phenomena and the research study that had put forward the hypothesis that the purple line that creeps up the 'bum cleavage' can be used as a measure of cervical dilatation... Can I just say that while I agree wholeheartedly with what's being said about trusting women, and looking for other signs of progress, the purple lines that I've seen (and yours is rather stunning if I may say so myself Jo :)) have been much more visible and definite with women having their first babies, and not as reliably visible with women having second and subsequent babies. So while it's a valuable tool to keep in mind, please don't think a woman isn't progressing just because there is no purple line, or if it's faint... Cheers Tania -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan Larry Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:50 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line For us non-midwives, now that I've seen the photo and understand the purple line, what does this mean regarding the birthing woman? Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Friday, 1 September 2006 12:42 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it all out, and there it is: http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/Notchalk/100_5129.jpg :) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/435 - Release Date: 31/08/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] The Purple Line
Great picture! But actually I've always looked at the dark pigmentation either side, rather than the purple line and it seems to be pretty accurate in indicating dilatation.Cheers MichelleJo Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had a request to put my butt on photobucket, so I've worked it all out, and there it is:http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i167/Notchalk/100_5129.jpg :)Jo--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. On Yahoo!7 Photos: Unlimited free storage keep all your photos in one place!
