RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

I’ve seen it creeping back in to Metro hospitals here in W.A. MM     We are behind the times up here thenwe use it at Atherton and Cairns Base also use it.   We only use syntocinon these days, ergometrine is reserved for true PPH's - I think most places are the same in

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r good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Tanya Fleming To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour I totally

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L PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of lisa > chalmers > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:48 AM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour > > > My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut unt

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L PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of lisa > chalmers > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:48 AM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour > > > My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut unt

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raphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour I have to admit I've never really understood the reasoning behind the baby supposedly receiving a bolus of blood if the cord is not clamped after synto. 

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ot;Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Tanya Fleming To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour I totally understand what you are saying.  But what about the

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t: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour I am taken by surprised of this tooi teach the very same as you Karen.  I also believe that the cord should be cut immediately before giving synto, to prevent passage of syntocinon into baby's circula

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- Original Message - From: "JoFromOz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour lisa chalmers wrote: Nearly everyone I know that did not cut the cord, had babies that developed Jaundice.

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lisa chalmers wrote: Nearly everyone I know that did not cut the cord, had babies that developed Jaundice. Nothing serious just yellowing. I thought 85% of babies had jaundice to some degree anyway? Surely it's normal *not* to cut the cord ASAP after birth? Jo -- This mailing list is sp

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8 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour Here here Mary, I've also been doing physiological third stage for 22 years and have not seen any jaundice worth investigating. Cords are usually left for at least two hours, mostly longer... Placentas not held higher or lower ...

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Here here Mary, I've also been doing physiological third stage for 22 years and have not seen any jaundice worth investigating. Cords are usually left for at least two hours, mostly longer... Placentas not held higher or lower ... no fuss. No synto and no 'milking ' of the cord. One significa

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7 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour My hospital born baby, induction by gels, 8hr labour, synto to birth placenta had jaundice. My 3 water births at home, 1 same length and 2 shorter labours, no intervention, placenta attached around 3 hours a

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- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lisa chalmers Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:18 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut until they have finish

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5 11:48 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut until they have finished pulsing, babies seem to develop jaundice for longer..(that the usual standards) . That makes complete sense to

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ickly the baby is able to feed." factors. Brenda & the how - Original Message - From: "Andrea Quanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour There are many reasons tha

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Given that I have been doing physiological 3rd stage for 23 yrs, I feel I can add my bit to this theme. It has not been my observation that babies get more jaundiced if the cord is left unclamped. I rarely have a pathological jaundice and this is usually ABO and do not often have anything more tha

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ECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour There are many reasons that influence whether a baby gets jaundiced or not Two of these are 1. prematurity ( of the liver as well as dates, some babies livers take ages to be effi

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There are many reasons that influence whether a baby gets jaundiced or not Two of these are 1. prematurity ( of the liver as well as dates, some babies livers take ages to be efficient enough to clear the jaundice. 2. Not passing mec soon after birth. The longer the mec stays inside the more

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I always firmly believed that too, I'm not soo sure now but I am open to being educated !! Brenda - Original Message - From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third st

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I have a friend who has been a ipm for many years and she believes that babies are more likely to get jaundiced when the mother has had synto, it makes sense of they get that extra unneccessary boost of blood. Belinda -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit

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:59 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour The reason given for hasty cord clamping AFTER (not before) administering synto is not to prevent synto entering baby's circulation, but to prevent over tranfusion due to the excessive contraction thus pro

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se exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled."   — Linda Hes - Original Message - From: jo To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour

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tober 05, 2005 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour I am taken by surprised of this tooi teach the very same as you Karen.  I also believe that the cord should be cut immediately before giving synto, to prevent passage of syntocinon into b

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I am taken by surprised of this tooi teach the very same as you Karen.  I also believe that the cord should be cut immediately before giving synto, to prevent passage of syntocinon into baby's circulationif cord is still pulsating, one would think this is possible as synto act quickl

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and another.     Risk of cesarean delivery with elective induction of labor at term in nulliparous women. Obstet Gynecol. 1999 Oct;94(4):600-7.Seyb ST, Berka RJ, Socol ML, Dooley SLDepartment of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Northwestern University Medical School, Northwestern Memorial Hosp

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Two more     Elective induction of labor as a risk factor for cesarean delivery among low-risk women at term.Obstet Gynecol. 2000 Jun;95(6 Pt 1):917-22.Maslow AS, Sweeny ALDepartment of Clinical Outcomes and Quality Improvement, Franciscan Health System, Tacoma, Washington, USA. OBJECTIV

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Here is one study.     Induction of labour leads to caesarean sections, instrumental delivery and shoulder dystocia Maternal and neonatal outcomes after induction of labour without an identified indication.Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2000 Oct;183(4):986-94.Dublin S, Lydon-Rochelle M, Kaplan RC,

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: Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:56 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour   Hi Karen, This is my two bob's worth: 1. Once you start an induction, particularly once you have done an ARM, I believe that you are committed to havin

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EDD is just that, an estimated date of delivery. Term is 38 to 42 weeks and there is reasonable evidence to offer  induction once a woman is 10 days past her EDD, provided it is accurate. Babies are born in better condition and there is less mec stained liquor. However it is a personal choic

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Hi Karen, This is my two bob's worth: 1. Once you start an induction, particularly once you have done an ARM, I believe that you are committed to having the baby within the next 24 hours preferably, (due to the risk of ascending infection in a hospital environment) so if labour does not e