mund Burke
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Tanya Fleming
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:47
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and
third stage labour
I totally understand what you are saying.
But what about the ergot
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:25
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third stage labour
I have to admit I've never really understood the reasoning behind the
baby supposedly receivinga bolus of blood if the cord is not clamped
after synto. If the placenta is separ
: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:48 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut until
they have
finished pulsing, babies seem to develop jaundice for
longer..(that the
usual
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:48 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut until
they have
finished pulsing, babies seem to develop jaundice for
longer..(that the
usual
d men to do
nothing"Edmund Burke
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From:
Tanya Fleming
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:47
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction
and third stage labour
I totally understan
Ive seen it creeping back in to
Metro hospitals here in W.A. MM
We are behind the times up here thenwe use it at
Atherton and Cairns Base also use it.
We only use syntocinon these days, ergometrine is reserved
for true PPH's - I think most places are the same in
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
My hospital born baby, induction by gels, 8hr labour, synto to birth
placenta had jaundice. My 3 water births at home, 1 same length and 2
shorter labours, no intervention, placenta attached around 3 hours after
birth
Here here Mary,
I've also been doing physiological third stage for 22 years and have not
seen any jaundice worth investigating.
Cords are usually left for at least two hours, mostly longer...
Placentas not held higher or lower ... no fuss. No synto and no 'milking
' of the cord.
One
:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
Here here Mary,
I've also been doing physiological third stage for 22 years and have not
seen any jaundice worth investigating.
Cords are usually left for at least two hours, mostly longer...
Placentas not held higher or lower
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From: JoFromOz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:20 PM
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lisa chalmers wrote:
Nearly everyone I know that did not cut the cord, had babies that
developed
in circulation in the KEMH policy manuals.
Sue
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke
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From: Tanya Fleming
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]
I am taken by surprised of this tooi teach the
very same as you Karen. I also believe that the cord should be cut
immediately before giving synto, to prevent passage of syntocinon into baby's
circulationif cord is still pulsating, one would think this is possible as
synto act
ubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and
third stage labour
I am taken by surprised of this tooi teach
the very same as you Karen. I also believe that the cord should be cut
immediately before giving synto, to prevent passage of syntocinon into baby's
circulationif cord is still puls
y how and by whom, if by anyone,
our bodies will be handled."
Linda Hes
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From:
jo
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:14
AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Induction and
third stage labour
Hi
Karen,
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and
third stage labour
The reason given for hasty cord clamping AFTER
(not before) administering synto is not to prevent synto entering baby's
circulation, but to prevent over tranfusion due to the excessive contraction
thus produced
I have a friend who has been a ipm for many years and she believes that
babies are more likely to get jaundiced when the mother has had synto,
it makes sense of they get that extra unneccessary boost of blood.
Belinda
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I always firmly believed that too, I'm not soo sure now but I am
open to being educated !!
Brenda
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From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third
There are many reasons that influence whether a baby gets jaundiced or
not
Two of these are
1. prematurity ( of the liver as well as dates, some babies livers take
ages to be efficient enough to clear the jaundice.
2. Not passing mec soon after birth. The longer the mec stays inside
the
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Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
There are many reasons that influence whether a baby gets jaundiced or not
Two of these are
1. prematurity ( of the liver as well as dates, some babies livers take
ages
Given that I have been doing physiological 3rd stage for 23 yrs, I feel I
can add my bit to this theme. It has not been my observation that babies
get more jaundiced if the cord is left unclamped. I rarely have a
pathological jaundice and this is usually ABO and do not often have anything
more
. factors.
Brenda
the how
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From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
There are many reasons that influence whether a baby gets
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Induction and third stage labour
My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut until they have
finished pulsing, babies seem to develop jaundice for longer..(that the
usual standards) . That makes complete sense to me, since
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Sent: Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:18 AM
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My experience of this, is that if the cords are not cut until they have
finished pulsing, babies
Hi
Karen,
This
is my two bob's worth:
1.
Once you start an induction, particularly once you have done an ARM, I believe
that you are committed to having the baby within the next 24 hours preferably,
(due to the risk of ascending infection in a hospital environment) so if labour
does not
EDD is just that, an estimated date of delivery.
Term is 38 to 42 weeks and there is reasonable evidence to offer induction
once a woman is 10 days past her EDD, provided it is accurate. Babies are born
in better condition and there is less mec stained liquor. However it is a
personal
11:56 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery]
Induction and third stage labour
Hi Karen,
This is my two bob's
worth:
1. Once you start an
induction, particularly once you have done an ARM, I believe that you are
committed to having the baby within the next
Here is one study.
Induction of labour leads to caesarean sections,
instrumental delivery and shoulder dystocia
Maternal and neonatal outcomes after induction of labour without an
identified indication.Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2000
Oct;183(4):986-94.Dublin S, Lydon-Rochelle M, Kaplan RC,
Two more
Elective induction of labor as a risk factor for cesarean delivery among
low-risk women at term.Obstet Gynecol. 2000 Jun;95(6 Pt
1):917-22.Maslow AS, Sweeny ALDepartment of Clinical Outcomes and
Quality Improvement, Franciscan Health System, Tacoma, Washington, USA.
and another.
Risk of cesarean delivery with elective induction of labor at term in
nulliparous women. Obstet Gynecol. 1999 Oct;94(4):600-7.Seyb ST, Berka
RJ, Socol ML, Dooley SLDepartment of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Northwestern
University Medical School, Northwestern Memorial
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