Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-06 Thread Jim Schram
At 3:32 AM +0100 2002/03/06, Aaron Ardiri wrote: i have successfully gotten timers working on previous versions of the os. now, your telling me i have to decompile the new roms to get around these limitations? :) or, did palm leave the API calls the same? :P Well as you know, the kernel

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-06 Thread Aaron Ardiri
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Jim Schram wrote: i have successfully gotten timers working on previous versions of the os. now, your telling me i have to decompile the new roms to get around these limitations? :) or, did palm leave the API calls the same? :P Well as you know, the kernel API calls

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-06 Thread Jim Schram
At 9:19 PM +0100 2002/03/06, Aaron Ardiri wrote: i would be interested in your results for personal enjoyment :) we did not release any software using timers... yet :P As I thought... Palm OS 5 does not (cannot) support the AMX kernel system traps. This actually makes sense when you think

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-06 Thread Aaron Ardiri
As I thought... Palm OS 5 does not (cannot) support the AMX kernel system traps. This actually makes sense when you think about what it would mean to fork a 68k process from within an ARM kernel... the emulator would have to be multi-threaded and re-entrant among other things. :oP makes

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-06 Thread Jim Schram
At 10:44 PM +0100 2002/03/06, Aaron Ardiri wrote: i guess we could get away with just checking for pre 5.0 units is there any secret way of detecting the AMX kernel *g* I'd recommend your app check to see if the particular AMX traps you want to call are unimplemented -- using the same

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-05 Thread Scott Newell
Jim Schram wrote: So, what kernel is OS 5 using? Our own, which we affectionately refer to as MCK after its author :o) With the Kadak licensing restrictions gone, dare we hope for some access to the kernel in OS 5? newell -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-05 Thread Jim Schram
At 12:48 PM -0600 2002/03/05, Scott Newell wrote: With the Kadak licensing restrictions gone, dare we hope for some access to the kernel in OS 5? What kind of access? It's not as if we've suddenly made Palm OS 5 fully multi-tasking or anything like that All the same restrictions regarding

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-05 Thread David A. Desrosiers
Support for additional background threads, timers, etc is being added in a future version of the Palm OS However, in v5 we thought it better not to bite off more than we could chew ;o) Are you still going to use the KADAK kernel in OS5 and later? Or are you rolling your own in-house

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-05 Thread Jim Schram
At 12:26 PM -0800 2002/03/05, David A Desrosiers wrote: Are you still going to use the KADAK kernel in OS5 and later? Or are you rolling your own in-house OS at this point, including kernel? Have you read the previous posts in this thread? Regards, Jim Schram PalmSource Inc Partner Engineering

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-05 Thread David A. Desrosiers
Have you read the previous posts in this thread? Yes, my question is more along the lines of Did the licensing agreement between Palm and KADAK change to facilitate exposing more than one thread, or did Palm decide to terminate licensing at OS5x and roll their own kernels?

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-05 Thread Keith Rollin
At 1:15 PM -0800 3/5/02, David A Desrosiers wrote: Have you read the previous posts in this thread? Yes, my question is more along the lines of Did the licensing agreement between Palm and KADAK change to facilitate exposing more than one thread, or did Palm decide to terminate

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-05 Thread Jim Schram
At 1:19 PM -0800 2002/03/05, Keith Rollin wrote: At 1:15 PM -0800 3/5/02, David A Desrosiers wrote: Have you read the previous posts in this thread? Yes, my question is more along the lines of Did the licensing agreement between Palm and KADAK change to facilitate exposing more than one

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-05 Thread Aaron Ardiri
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Jim Schram wrote: And which I'll answer again so we can end this thread... We've rolled our own kernel in Palm OS 5. It's affectionately known as MCK after its author. All the same KADAK restrictions still apply to 3rd party developers -- e.g. no additional background

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-04 Thread Jim Schram
At 5:15 PM -0600 2002/03/02, Christopher C Stump wrote: I was wondering if there is any way I could find out what parts of the AMX kernel are used by Palm OS 3x I would like to figure out which tasks of the AMX kernel are included in the preconfigured collection used by Palm Is this information

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-04 Thread Scott Newell
Jim Schram wrote: easier porting to other kernels (which we've done in Palm OS 5) So, what kernel is OS 5 using? newell -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://wwwpalmoscom/dev/tech/support/forums/

Re: AMX kernel in Palm OS 3.x

2002-03-04 Thread Jim Schram
At 1:08 PM -0600 2002/03/04, Scott Newell wrote: Jim Schram wrote: easier porting to other kernels (which we've done in Palm OS 5) So, what kernel is OS 5 using? Our own, which we affectionately refer to as MCK after its author :o) Regards, Jim Schram PalmSource Inc Partner Engineering --