Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Christian Weiss
Just for the record: I vote for github. You simply missed all opportunities to make me involved in issues, pull requests and discussions. Not having password-store on github has raise the hurdle that high, that i never contributed / participated for the last years. If you think github will ev

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Robert Kosten
Another vote from the side-lines: Stay away from github and other services that offer proprietary "extensions" to git. I hear git-format-patch works rather well with mailing lists ;-) If using a mailing list is a real hurdle for someone (And I perfectly understand that it can be; I feel at least a

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 09:12:09AM +0200, Christian Weiss wrote: > Just for the record: > I vote for github. FWIW: I vote for stay away from github :) If a contributor is not willing to subscribe to a mailing list it may just be a "meteorite" and not really bound to stay in the long run. That sa

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Brian Exelbierd
Hi All, I undertand the cgit connection here and I am fine with that being the source forge. I think not having PRs is sad, but workable. I suspect that newer developers are less familiar with patch mailing and we may want to make some guidance documentation. On Thu, May 21, 2020, at 10:07 A

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Eddie Barraco
Good morning Christian, On Thu May 21, 2020 at 11:12 AM CEST, Christian Weiss wrote: > You simply missed all opportunities to make me involved in issues, pull > requests and discussions. > Not having password-store on github has raise the hurdle that high, that > i never contributed / participate

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Eddie Barraco
> I suspect that newer developers are less familiar with patch mailing > and we may want to make some guidance documentation. I can recommend : https://git-send-email.io/

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Rémi Lapeyre
>> You lost me. I will rejoin when you are on github. Please reconsider the >> user experience of your community. I guess some of them got used to it, >> but i doubed that they are happy. > > You really lost me on this too. In foss open sources project we do not > depends on any forge platforms.

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Erazem Kokot
> I think Christian finds the absence of a bug tracker an issue to have a > global view of the work being done on pass. While many foss projects > don’t rely on proprietary platforms, some do have a bug tracker like > Python (https://bugs.python.org), GDB > (https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/). > > P

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Nicolai Dagestad
> However, this comment got to the core of one of the challenges. Not > having a bug tracker, PR list, issue tracker, whatever leads to patches > languishing on the list and being either re-bumped or lost. Right now > the pace of the project is not allowing code to get committed. I don't > need ano

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 01:07:21PM +0200, Erazem Kokot wrote: > Regarding a bug tracker, if there is a need for one, Drew DeVault's > Sourcehut[0] might be a good option. It's a whole platform, but it's > very modular, so if needed, only the bug tracker can be used. It is also > available to be se

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread J Rt
I agree that several things are made a bit more challenging by not using something 'a la github' (note: I am used to github quite well, so maybe some of the points I mention here are also doable with the current solution, but more challenging to find how to do it, at least to me): - it is a bit mo

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 01:26:34PM +0200, Nicolai Dagestad wrote: > Right > now everything is in the mailling list archive, and I have to admit it is a > pain > to have to go through it to find what has been talked about in the past, maybe > we could do something about that (or maybe I haven't fo

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Allan Odgaard
On 21 May 2020, at 17:51, Rémi Lapeyre wrote: A bug tracker (which can be used in foss, even when using cgit) would give the answer immediately and I wouldn’t be afraid that those patches will be forgotten and stay forever in the mailing list archive without being ever committed. Many bug tr

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Nicolai Dagestad
> You simply missed all opportunities to make me involved in issues, pull > requests and discussions. Nobody here missed an opportunity to make you involved, you did. > Not having password-store on github has raise the hurdle that high, that > i never contributed / participated for the last years

[PATCH] Add XDG Base Directory support

2020-05-21 Thread Nicolai Dagestad
--- We have discussed following the xdg base dir and some concernes have been raised. I have gone ahead and patched pass, the completions and passmenu. It looks like the emacs files would need to be patched to but I don't know lisp and can't even test it so i'll leave that up to somebody using i

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Nathan Lilienthal
I think one of the main issues here is that people hate email. I'm not sure how to solve this, but it is desperately in need of a solution. On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:35 AM Allan Odgaard wrote: > > On 21 May 2020, at 17:51, Rémi Lapeyre wrote: > > > A bug tracker (which can be used in foss, even

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Matt Connell
On 2020-05-21 20:48, Nathan Lilienthal wrote: > I think one of the main issues here is that people hate email. *Some* people hate email. Some people love it and it is an integral part of their workflow, both for communication and code needs. There are a lot of good reasons that is still used. h

Re: curious: why use own hosting rather than github?

2020-05-21 Thread Ondřej Synáček
I think one of the main issues here is that people hate email. That’s a bold statement. I think it does well what it’s supposed to do. Security defaults could be better but email can be done securely. I encountered people saying that email “needs to evolve”. We have Slack, IRC etc that can d