RE: [PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-08 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
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[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-08 Thread chargein461
: RE: [PAYCO] Re: focused practical action M’Afrika Fihla We should not fall victim of pulling barriers by design or default which possesses the potential to arrest any and all forward movement to unite and rebuild the PAC. If comrades agree to return and re-join PAC, they complete PAC

[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Izwe Lethu Cdes. I think just to reinforce your points Cde Siya what will assist the process faster is the following; 1.The NEC as elected in Butterworth must reconstitute either on their own or under a very matured mediation team. 2. Then the comrades must then agree without fail that the

[PAYCO] RE: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Izwe lethu 1. The proposal to form a mediation team is worth consideration; 2. Mediation team should develop a party unification strategy and campaign which should entail:- a. The July 2012 Butterworth Congress elected NEC should reconstitute through mediation team; b.

RE: [PAYCO] RE: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
...@wbs.co.za; 'Alton Mphethi' Subject: Re: [PAYCO] RE: focused practical action Comrades Cdes Linda, Siya, Ndima, Fihla and others I think lets do our best to find a way out after the further submission by Cde Raymond. For now we must reach out to our comrades to constitutionality

[PAYCO] RE: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cde Siya Please explain by “leaders from all provinces” you imply? Eastern Cape has two parallel structures for example! Shango lashu Nkrumah From: sndam...@pac-cape.org.za [mailto:sndam...@pac-cape.org.za] Sent: 05 September 2014 10:02 AM To: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi Cc: 'Mbuyiselo

[PAYCO] RE: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Shango lashu It is then appropriate that such a meeting to be convened should be inclusive of all provincial and regional structures. The invitation should also be extended to PAM comrades and include component structures. The meetings should primarily focus on first necessary steps to

[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Linda Ndebele
Comrades, The critical question now is who will bell the cat? Who will convene the mediation team? Who should form part of mediation team? How would the whole exercise be financed? How do we get buy-in from all factions? Linda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!

Re: [PAYCO] RE: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Linda Ndebele
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RE: [PAYCO] RE: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
...@yahoo.com; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; pac.nc...@gmail.com; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za Subject: Re: [PAYCO] RE: focused practical action Comrades, From my analysis on our engagements including that of Cde

[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Linda Ndebele
Comrades, The only way of making this work is to commit and honour promises we make. If we schedule a meeting, everyone who said will attend must be there and spend the duration of the meeting. Its hightime we make PAC priority. We must stop this thing of making promises and send apologies on

RE: [PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
; patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; sbusiso.x...@gmail.com Subject: [PAYCO] Re: focused practical action Comrades, The only way of making this work is to commit and honour promises we make. If we schedule a meeting, everyone who said will attend must be there and spend the duration

[PAYCO] Re: focused practical action

2014-09-05 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Comrades I think what is suggested I agree is a good foundation for a revamped PAC. Personally I will always argue since May 11 and prior that period the Butterworth NEC struggled to conceive even one programme of national status. Somehow Cde Raymond as you pointed to 3 factions or trends I