Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

2010-08-19 Thread chris hallsworth

Hello all,
I have been equipped with two very powerful digital hearing aids 
literally today. I'm wondering what is the best in terms of audio 
quality. By that I mean things like 44,100HZ 16 bit or 128KBPS.

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Re: MaPlEr

2010-08-19 Thread chris hallsworth
Oh by adjusting the pitch of the file? I think that's a cool feature and 
wish Winamp and other players had this capability without plug-ins.


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On 19/08/2010 5:39, Robert doc Wright wrote:

I use it when I need to learn a complicated bass line.
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Hello all,
Notice the capitals between the letters; this is how you actually
spell the program.
Does anyone use MaPlEr? If so what do you think? I like the program.
Doesn't set it apart from Winamp except to say it's fully accessible
and has features that Winamp or other players often don't have.
Just wanted to spark a discussion.

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more c dexe problem

2010-08-19 Thread joe bollard
hello friends, have been struggling with c dexe for the past two days, when i 
place the cd in the drive and open up c dexe it says access remote freedb  if 
i hit enter and wait nothing happens, i tab down to access local freedb and 
still nothing happens, i press f 9 to start ripping but i don't   get any 
information, no album title, no track information, just audio track one, audio 
track two  etc, the album is loaded in to my music folder, but with no 
information, a message comes  up no artist  and then again the track numbers 
with no details of individual tracks, i'm using jaws eleven and windoes xp, i 
know i am omitting  something but just what, can anyone help, i want to do a 
lot of work  over the next few days, any help will really be appreciated, 
regards from ireland, joe.
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Re: MaPlEr

2010-08-19 Thread Robert doc Wright
Actually by adjusting the speed so I can better hear what is being played. I 
slow it down and play at that speed until i have it. then I put it back to 
normal and test myself.
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Subject: Re: MaPlEr


Oh by adjusting the pitch of the file? I think that's a cool feature and 
wish Winamp and other players had this capability without plug-ins.


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On 19/08/2010 5:39, Robert doc Wright wrote:

I use it when I need to learn a complicated bass line.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:27 PM
Subject: MaPlEr



Hello all,
Notice the capitals between the letters; this is how you actually
spell the program.
Does anyone use MaPlEr? If so what do you think? I like the program.
Doesn't set it apart from Winamp except to say it's fully accessible
and has features that Winamp or other players often don't have.
Just wanted to spark a discussion.

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Re: more c dexe problem

2010-08-19 Thread John R, siobhan and retired guide dog Iris
HI you may want to go in to the settings with, F4. then go to the freeg 
database  tab and check your E-mail is in there correctly if you don't have 
an E-mail address in there it doesn't get the information and sometimes it 
does reset the information mines done it a few times.
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To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:26 PM
Subject: more c dexe problem


hello friends, have been struggling with c dexe for the past two days, 
when i place the cd in the drive and open up c dexe it says access remote 
freedb  if i hit enter and wait nothing happens, i tab down to access 
local freedb and still nothing happens, i press f 9 to start ripping but 
i don't   get any information, no album title, no track information, just 
audio track one, audio track two  etc, the album is loaded in to my 
music folder, but with no information, a message comes  up no artist 
and then again the track numbers with no details of individual tracks, i'm 
using jaws eleven and windoes xp, i know i am omitting  something but just 
what, can anyone help, i want to do a lot of work  over the next few days, 
any help will really be appreciated, regards from ireland, joe.

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Re: more c dexe problem

2010-08-19 Thread Barry Chapman
Hi Joe,

1. Launch CDEX and press F4 to open the CDEX Configuration.

2. Arrow down to CD Database.  If it is closed, press right arrow to open it.

3. Arrow down twice to Remote freedb.

4. Tab once to Remote Server and make sure something is selected.

5. Tab again to Your E-mail address.  You must enter an email address here, 
otherwise it won't work.  It doesn't have to be your 
real email address however.  For example f...@hotmail.com will be ok.

6. Tab to Auto connect to remote CDDB and check it if it isn't already checked.

7. Tab to ok and press enter.  I don't think you need to do anything else.

The next time you insert a CD, it should automatically check the remote CDDB.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Barry Chapman

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From: joe bollard joebolla...@eircom.net
To: pc -audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:26 PM
Subject: more c dexe problem


hello friends, have been struggling with c dexe for the past two days, when i 
place the cd in the drive and open up c dexe it says 
access remote freedb  if i hit enter and wait nothing happens, i tab down to 
access local freedb and still nothing happens, i 
press f 9 to start ripping but i don't   get any information, no album title, 
no track information, just audio track one, audio 
track two  etc, the album is loaded in to my music folder, but with no 
information, a message comes  up no artist  and then 
again the track numbers with no details of individual tracks, i'm using jaws 
eleven and windoes xp, i know i am omitting  something 
but just what, can anyone help, i want to do a lot of work  over the next few 
days, any help will really be appreciated, regards 
from ireland, joe.
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Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

2010-08-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well really this is a very strange questions, I've been wearing digital hearing 
aids for 15 years and I'n now asking myself, why should encoding of sound be 
any different to those wearing hearing aids than for those who are not? By that 
I mean you encode the way you want and the way you like but one thing I do know 
when wearing good hearing instruments is that you want the best quality sound 
you can get.  An audio engineer once recommended me use VBR quality and I did 
post instructions on how to set this up with LAME and what all the settings 
meant quite some time ago so I'm sure you'll find it if you look in the 
archives.  Basically what you need to do is set the minimum bit rate to as low 
as possible and the maximum bit rate to as high as possible.  There are 2 
quality bit rates, the VBR bit rate will need to be changed according to what 
you're encoding but a good setting for music is 3, the lower the number then 
the less the encoder rejects from the encoding.  If you set the VBR quality to 
1 then you may as well use a lossless compression such as FLAC.  Use Joint 
stereo.

Of course I'm referring to MP3 encoding with LAME here.


On 19/08/2010, at 3:03 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:

 Hello all,
 I have been equipped with two very powerful digital hearing aids literally 
 today. I'm wondering what is the best in terms of audio quality. By that I 
 mean things like 44,100HZ 16 bit or 128KBPS.
 Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 
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Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

2010-08-19 Thread richard claypool
I'd not set the min quality for as low as posible because that's too low. 
i'd set maybe 128 as your lowest point, and then whatever you want as your 
highest point.  If you can't hear above 192, and won't be shairng the files, 
then maybe set it to 192.


msn
bellevue@gmail.com
skype
lord_of_beer
last fm
http://last.fm/lord_of_beer

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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?


Well really this is a very strange questions, I've been wearing digital 
hearing aids for 15 years and I'n now asking myself, why should encoding 
of sound be any different to those wearing hearing aids than for those who 
are not? By that I mean you encode the way you want and the way you like 
but one thing I do know when wearing good hearing instruments is that you 
want the best quality sound you can get.  An audio engineer once 
recommended me use VBR quality and I did post instructions on how to set 
this up with LAME and what all the settings meant quite some time ago so 
I'm sure you'll find it if you look in the archives.  Basically what you 
need to do is set the minimum bit rate to as low as possible and the 
maximum bit rate to as high as possible.  There are 2 quality bit rates, 
the VBR bit rate will need to be changed according to what you're encoding 
but a good setting for music is 3, the lower the number then the less 
the encoder rejects from the encoding.  If you set the VBR quality to 1 
then you may as well use a lossless compression such as FLAC.  Use Joint 
stereo.


Of course I'm referring to MP3 encoding with LAME here.


On 19/08/2010, at 3:03 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:


Hello all,
I have been equipped with two very powerful digital hearing aids 
literally today. I'm wondering what is the best in terms of audio 
quality. By that I mean things like 44,100HZ 16 bit or 128KBPS.

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

2010-08-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ignore that, the whole purpose of VBR is to encode every sample at a bit rate, 
you don't want encoding of say silent samples done at 128k as that's just 
wasting band width.


On 19/08/2010, at 11:47 PM, richard claypool wrote:

 I'd not set the min quality for as low as posible because that's too low. i'd 
 set maybe 128 as your lowest point, and then whatever you want as your 
 highest point.  If you can't hear above 192, and won't be shairng the files, 
 then maybe set it to 192.
 
 msn
 bellevue@gmail.com
 skype
 lord_of_beer
 last fm
 http://last.fm/lord_of_beer
 
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:31 AM
 Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?
 
 
 Well really this is a very strange questions, I've been wearing digital 
 hearing aids for 15 years and I'n now asking myself, why should encoding of 
 sound be any different to those wearing hearing aids than for those who are 
 not? By that I mean you encode the way you want and the way you like but one 
 thing I do know when wearing good hearing instruments is that you want the 
 best quality sound you can get.  An audio engineer once recommended me use 
 VBR quality and I did post instructions on how to set this up with LAME and 
 what all the settings meant quite some time ago so I'm sure you'll find it 
 if you look in the archives.  Basically what you need to do is set the 
 minimum bit rate to as low as possible and the maximum bit rate to as high 
 as possible.  There are 2 quality bit rates, the VBR bit rate will need to 
 be changed according to what you're encoding but a good setting for music is 
 3, the lower the number then the less the encoder rejects from the 
 encoding.  If you set the VBR quality to 1 then you may as well use a 
 lossless compression such as FLAC.  Use Joint stereo.
 
 Of course I'm referring to MP3 encoding with LAME here.
 
 
 On 19/08/2010, at 3:03 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I have been equipped with two very powerful digital hearing aids literally 
 today. I'm wondering what is the best in terms of audio quality. By that I 
 mean things like 44,100HZ 16 bit or 128KBPS.
 Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 
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Re: MaPlEr

2010-08-19 Thread Wyatt Rose, an SA Mobile Network User

Where can I get the software?

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Re: MaPlEr

2010-08-19 Thread richard claypool

hmmm, ask uncle google?
msn
bellevue@gmail.com
skype
lord_of_beer
last fm
http://last.fm/lord_of_beer

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Re: MaPlEr

2010-08-19 Thread Robert doc Wright

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2144569/MaPlEr_108_Setup.exe
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Re: MaPlEr

2010-08-19 Thread Mac Norins
Try this link, instead of the drop box link, that Robert just gave you:

http://www.mar-dy.com/MaPlEr/MaPlEr.php
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RE: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

2010-08-19 Thread André van Deventer
As a person with a hearing aid in one ear and a cochlear implant in another
ear, I still encode as high as I possibly can.  Try to get some kind of
direct connection to your hearing aids if at all possible.

Andre

 

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On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 19 August 2010 03:54 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

Ignore that, the whole purpose of VBR is to encode every sample at a bit
rate, you don't want encoding of say silent samples done at 128k as that's
just wasting band width.


On 19/08/2010, at 11:47 PM, richard claypool wrote:

 I'd not set the min quality for as low as posible because that's too low.
i'd set maybe 128 as your lowest point, and then whatever you want as your
highest point.  If you can't hear above 192, and won't be shairng the files,
then maybe set it to 192.
 
 msn
 bellevue@gmail.com
 skype
 lord_of_beer
 last fm
 http://last.fm/lord_of_beer
 
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:31 AM
 Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?
 
 
 Well really this is a very strange questions, I've been wearing 
 digital hearing aids for 15 years and I'n now asking myself, why 
 should encoding of sound be any different to those wearing hearing 
 aids than for those who are not? By that I mean you encode the way 
 you want and the way you like but one thing I do know when wearing 
 good hearing instruments is that you want the best quality sound you 
 can get.  An audio engineer once recommended me use VBR quality and I 
 did post instructions on how to set this up with LAME and what all 
 the settings meant quite some time ago so I'm sure you'll find it if 
 you look in the archives.  Basically what you need to do is set the 
 minimum bit rate to as low as possible and the maximum bit rate to as 
 high as possible.  There are 2 quality bit rates, the VBR bit rate 
 will need to be changed according to what you're encoding but a good 
 setting for music is 3, the lower the number then the less the 
 encoder rejects from the encoding.  If you
 set the VBR quality to 1 then you may as well use a lossless compression
such as FLAC.  Use Joint stereo.
 
 Of course I'm referring to MP3 encoding with LAME here.
 
 
 On 19/08/2010, at 3:03 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I have been equipped with two very powerful digital hearing aids
literally today. I'm wondering what is the best in terms of audio quality.
By that I mean things like 44,100HZ 16 bit or 128KBPS.
 Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 
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Re: MaPlEr

2010-08-19 Thread David McLean
Yes I've used it for that also.  You can speed up and slow stuff down as you 
can in Goldwave or Soundforge without changing the pitch.  Great for learning 
music.
On Aug 19, 2010, at 4:17 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:

 Oh by adjusting the pitch of the file? I think that's a cool feature and wish 
 Winamp and other players had this capability without plug-ins.
 
 Sent using Thunderbird
 
 On 19/08/2010 5:39, Robert doc Wright wrote:
 I use it when I need to learn a complicated bass line.
 - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:27 PM
 Subject: MaPlEr
 
 
 Hello all,
 Notice the capitals between the letters; this is how you actually
 spell the program.
 Does anyone use MaPlEr? If so what do you think? I like the program.
 Doesn't set it apart from Winamp except to say it's fully accessible
 and has features that Winamp or other players often don't have.
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Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

2010-08-19 Thread chris hallsworth

Hello all,
I tell you something, but audio sounds brilliant with my headphones 
sitting on top of my hearing aids, which is how I am listening to the 
computer right now!

So I will put it down to my laptop speakers rather than hearing aids.
Thanks all for the help.

Sent using Thunderbird

On 19/08/2010 14:53, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Ignore that, the whole purpose of VBR is to encode every sample at a bit rate, 
you don't want encoding of say silent samples done at 128k as that's just 
wasting band width.


On 19/08/2010, at 11:47 PM, richard claypool wrote:


I'd not set the min quality for as low as posible because that's too low. i'd 
set maybe 128 as your lowest point, and then whatever you want as your highest 
point.  If you can't hear above 192, and won't be shairng the files, then maybe 
set it to 192.

msn
bellevue@gmail.com
skype
lord_of_beer
last fm
http://last.fm/lord_of_beer

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowangrtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?



Well really this is a very strange questions, I've been wearing digital hearing aids for 
15 years and I'n now asking myself, why should encoding of sound be any different to 
those wearing hearing aids than for those who are not? By that I mean you encode the way 
you want and the way you like but one thing I do know when wearing good hearing 
instruments is that you want the best quality sound you can get.  An audio engineer once 
recommended me use VBR quality and I did post instructions on how to set this up with 
LAME and what all the settings meant quite some time ago so I'm sure you'll find it if 
you look in the archives.  Basically what you need to do is set the minimum bit rate to 
as low as possible and the maximum bit rate to as high as possible.  There are 2 quality 
bit rates, the VBR bit rate will need to be changed according to what you're encoding but 
a good setting for music is 3, the lower the number then the less the encoder 
rejects from the encoding.  If yo

u set the VBR quality to 1 then you may as well use a lossless compression 
such as FLAC.  Use Joint stereo.


Of course I'm referring to MP3 encoding with LAME here.


On 19/08/2010, at 3:03 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:


Hello all,
I have been equipped with two very powerful digital hearing aids literally 
today. I'm wondering what is the best in terms of audio quality. By that I mean 
things like 44,100HZ 16 bit or 128KBPS.
Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

2010-08-19 Thread Gary Schindler
Chris, that is what I do, put the headphones over the hearing aides. do you 
have analog or digital aides, for that makes all the difference in the 
world. my digital aides are natural sounding like hearing should be! I have 
an old pair of analog aides which are sometimes on the sharp side.
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?



Hello all,
I tell you something, but audio sounds brilliant with my headphones 
sitting on top of my hearing aids, which is how I am listening to the 
computer right now!

So I will put it down to my laptop speakers rather than hearing aids.
Thanks all for the help.

Sent using Thunderbird

On 19/08/2010 14:53, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ignore that, the whole purpose of VBR is to encode every sample at a bit 
rate, you don't want encoding of say silent samples done at 128k as 
that's just wasting band width.



On 19/08/2010, at 11:47 PM, richard claypool wrote:

I'd not set the min quality for as low as posible because that's too 
low. i'd set maybe 128 as your lowest point, and then whatever you want 
as your highest point.  If you can't hear above 192, and won't be 
shairng the files, then maybe set it to 192.


msn
bellevue@gmail.com
skype
lord_of_beer
last fm
http://last.fm/lord_of_beer

- Original Message - From: Dane 
Trethowangrtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?


Well really this is a very strange questions, I've been wearing digital 
hearing aids for 15 years and I'n now asking myself, why should 
encoding of sound be any different to those wearing hearing aids than 
for those who are not? By that I mean you encode the way you want and 
the way you like but one thing I do know when wearing good hearing 
instruments is that you want the best quality sound you can get.  An 
audio engineer once recommended me use VBR quality and I did post 
instructions on how to set this up with LAME and what all the settings 
meant quite some time ago so I'm sure you'll find it if you look in the 
archives.  Basically what you need to do is set the minimum bit rate to 
as low as possible and the maximum bit rate to as high as possible. 
There are 2 quality bit rates, the VBR bit rate will need to be changed 
according to what you're encoding but a good setting for music is 3, 
the lower the number then the less the encoder rejects from the 
encoding.  If yo
u set the VBR quality to 1 then you may as well use a lossless 
compression such as FLAC.  Use Joint stereo.


Of course I'm referring to MP3 encoding with LAME here.


On 19/08/2010, at 3:03 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:


Hello all,
I have been equipped with two very powerful digital hearing aids 
literally today. I'm wondering what is the best in terms of audio 
quality. By that I mean things like 44,100HZ 16 bit or 128KBPS.

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

2010-08-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
I believe he said he had digital smile.

Yes I used to put headphones over my hearing-aids but I can tell you know, if 
you can manage a direct connection to your hearing aids then you'll be doing 
yourself a huge favour! that's already been mentioned on list.

I reviewed one device which may allow you to do this and its called the Tek 
Controller, listen to it at www.blindcooltech.com


On 20/08/2010, at 8:33 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

 Chris, that is what I do, put the headphones over the hearing aides. do you 
 have analog or digital aides, for that makes all the difference in the world. 
 my digital aides are natural sounding like hearing should be! I have an old 
 pair of analog aides which are sometimes on the sharp side.
 - Original Message - From: chris hallsworth 
 christopher...@googlemail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?
 
 
 Hello all,
 I tell you something, but audio sounds brilliant with my headphones sitting 
 on top of my hearing aids, which is how I am listening to the computer right 
 now!
 So I will put it down to my laptop speakers rather than hearing aids.
 Thanks all for the help.
 
 Sent using Thunderbird
 
 On 19/08/2010 14:53, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Ignore that, the whole purpose of VBR is to encode every sample at a bit 
 rate, you don't want encoding of say silent samples done at 128k as that's 
 just wasting band width.
 
 
 On 19/08/2010, at 11:47 PM, richard claypool wrote:
 
 I'd not set the min quality for as low as posible because that's too low. 
 i'd set maybe 128 as your lowest point, and then whatever you want as your 
 highest point.  If you can't hear above 192, and won't be shairng the 
 files, then maybe set it to 192.
 
 msn
 bellevue@gmail.com
 skype
 lord_of_beer
 last fm
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 - Original Message - From: Dane 
 Trethowangrtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:31 AM
 Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?
 
 
 Well really this is a very strange questions, I've been wearing digital 
 hearing aids for 15 years and I'n now asking myself, why should encoding 
 of sound be any different to those wearing hearing aids than for those 
 who are not? By that I mean you encode the way you want and the way you 
 like but one thing I do know when wearing good hearing instruments is 
 that you want the best quality sound you can get.  An audio engineer once 
 recommended me use VBR quality and I did post instructions on how to set 
 this up with LAME and what all the settings meant quite some time ago so 
 I'm sure you'll find it if you look in the archives.  Basically what you 
 need to do is set the minimum bit rate to as low as possible and the 
 maximum bit rate to as high as possible. There are 2 quality bit rates, 
 the VBR bit rate will need to be changed according to what you're 
 encoding but a good setting for music is 3, the lower the number then 
 the less the encoder rejects from the encoding.  If yo
 u set the VBR quality to 1 then you may as well use a lossless compression 
 such as FLAC.  Use Joint stereo.
 
 Of course I'm referring to MP3 encoding with LAME here.
 
 
 On 19/08/2010, at 3:03 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I have been equipped with two very powerful digital hearing aids 
 literally today. I'm wondering what is the best in terms of audio 
 quality. By that I mean things like 44,100HZ 16 bit or 128KBPS.
 Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 
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Problem with noise reduction plugin

2010-08-19 Thread Paul (Pawel) Loba
Hi listers,
I installed levelator included in Richard's tutorial and wanted to use noise
reduction plugin but while trying to run it I've been getting the following
message:
---
GoldWave
Access violation at address 019B83D0 in module 'DirectX.pig'. 
Read of address .
OK   
---
I am running Windows 7 Ultimate. Can any of view give me any suggestion how
to fix it, please. It'd save me a lot of reading - I guess.
Thanks,
Pawel
-
It is my philosophy that my blindness should not cause me to have to buy
specialized equipment that costs me more money than I have. Rather, I should
be able to buy the same products that everyone else does because
accessibility and usability are built in.
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Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?

2010-08-19 Thread Gary Schindler

Thanks Dane, I shall have a listen.
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?



I believe he said he had digital smile.

Yes I used to put headphones over my hearing-aids but I can tell you know, 
if you can manage a direct connection to your hearing aids then you'll be 
doing yourself a huge favour! that's already been mentioned on list.


I reviewed one device which may allow you to do this and its called the 
Tek Controller, listen to it at www.blindcooltech.com



On 20/08/2010, at 8:33 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Chris, that is what I do, put the headphones over the hearing aides. do 
you have analog or digital aides, for that makes all the difference in 
the world. my digital aides are natural sounding like hearing should be! 
I have an old pair of analog aides which are sometimes on the sharp side.
- Original Message - From: chris hallsworth 
christopher...@googlemail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?



Hello all,
I tell you something, but audio sounds brilliant with my headphones 
sitting on top of my hearing aids, which is how I am listening to the 
computer right now!

So I will put it down to my laptop speakers rather than hearing aids.
Thanks all for the help.

Sent using Thunderbird

On 19/08/2010 14:53, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ignore that, the whole purpose of VBR is to encode every sample at a 
bit rate, you don't want encoding of say silent samples done at 128k as 
that's just wasting band width.



On 19/08/2010, at 11:47 PM, richard claypool wrote:

I'd not set the min quality for as low as posible because that's too 
low. i'd set maybe 128 as your lowest point, and then whatever you 
want as your highest point.  If you can't hear above 192, and won't be 
shairng the files, then maybe set it to 192.


msn
bellevue@gmail.com
skype
lord_of_beer
last fm
http://last.fm/lord_of_beer

- Original Message - From: Dane 
Trethowangrtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion Listpc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Best bitrate quality for hearing aid users?


Well really this is a very strange questions, I've been wearing 
digital hearing aids for 15 years and I'n now asking myself, why 
should encoding of sound be any different to those wearing hearing 
aids than for those who are not? By that I mean you encode the way 
you want and the way you like but one thing I do know when wearing 
good hearing instruments is that you want the best quality sound you 
can get.  An audio engineer once recommended me use VBR quality and I 
did post instructions on how to set this up with LAME and what all 
the settings meant quite some time ago so I'm sure you'll find it if 
you look in the archives.  Basically what you need to do is set the 
minimum bit rate to as low as possible and the maximum bit rate to as 
high as possible. There are 2 quality bit rates, the VBR bit rate 
will need to be changed according to what you're encoding but a good 
setting for music is 3, the lower the number then the less the 
encoder rejects from the encoding.  If yo
u set the VBR quality to 1 then you may as well use a lossless 
compression such as FLAC.  Use Joint stereo.


Of course I'm referring to MP3 encoding with LAME here.


On 19/08/2010, at 3:03 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:


Hello all,
I have been equipped with two very powerful digital hearing aids 
literally today. I'm wondering what is the best in terms of audio 
quality. By that I mean things like 44,100HZ 16 bit or 128KBPS.

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions.

--
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Playing of cue files

2010-08-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!

One of the many things I like about VLC Media Player is its ability to handle 
cue sheets and associated audio files, a cue and wave or a cue and Flac pair 
for example so I was quite astonished when i discovered that Winamp won't 
handle this, does anyone know of a Winamp plug-in which may solve the problem 
or perhaps an accessible piece of software for Windows which will play cue 
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Re: Playing of cue files

2010-08-19 Thread richard claypool

what exactly are cue files?  I've heard the term but not sure what they are.

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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:13 PM
Subject: Playing of cue files



Hi!

One of the many things I like about VLC Media Player is its ability to 
handle cue sheets and associated audio files, a cue and wave or a cue and 
Flac pair for example so I was quite astonished when i discovered that 
Winamp won't handle this, does anyone know of a Winamp plug-in which may 
solve the problem or perhaps an accessible piece of software for Windows 
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Re: Playing of cue files

2010-08-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Cue files are text files, you can edit them in a text editor.  They point to 
positions in an accompanying file and show where tracks begin and end, supply 
track information to the player etc.

CD burning software such as Exact Audio Copy and Easy CD DA Extractor can make 
use of them to burn CD'S or to extract audio into other formats.

Audio editors such as Goldwave, Total Recorder and Amadeus Pro make use of them 
to mark particular positions in an audio file.


On 20/08/2010, at 11:26 AM, richard claypool wrote:

 what exactly are cue files?  I've heard the term but not sure what they are.
 
 msn
 bellevue@gmail.com
 skype
 lord_of_beer
 last fm
 http://last.fm/lord_of_beer
 
 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:13 PM
 Subject: Playing of cue files
 
 
 Hi!
 
 One of the many things I like about VLC Media Player is its ability to 
 handle cue sheets and associated audio files, a cue and wave or a cue and 
 Flac pair for example so I was quite astonished when i discovered that 
 Winamp won't handle this, does anyone know of a Winamp plug-in which may 
 solve the problem or perhaps an accessible piece of software for Windows 
 which will play cue sheets with associated audio files?
 
 Cheers!
 
 
 
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Re: Playing of cue files

2010-08-19 Thread richard claypool
I use those points in gw all the time, but thought they were spelled q u e u 
e points, so when I saw this, i thought it might have been something 
diffeent.  one learns something new every day.


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- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Playing of cue files


Cue files are text files, you can edit them in a text editor.  They point 
to positions in an accompanying file and show where tracks begin and end, 
supply track information to the player etc.


CD burning software such as Exact Audio Copy and Easy CD DA Extractor can 
make use of them to burn CD'S or to extract audio into other formats.


Audio editors such as Goldwave, Total Recorder and Amadeus Pro make use of 
them to mark particular positions in an audio file.



On 20/08/2010, at 11:26 AM, richard claypool wrote:

what exactly are cue files?  I've heard the term but not sure what they 
are.


msn
bellevue@gmail.com
skype
lord_of_beer
last fm
http://last.fm/lord_of_beer

- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:13 PM
Subject: Playing of cue files



Hi!

One of the many things I like about VLC Media Player is its ability to 
handle cue sheets and associated audio files, a cue and wave or a cue 
and Flac pair for example so I was quite astonished when i discovered 
that Winamp won't handle this, does anyone know of a Winamp plug-in 
which may solve the problem or perhaps an accessible piece of software 
for Windows which will play cue sheets with associated audio files?


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Re: Playing of cue files

2010-08-19 Thread Johnny Angel!

Hi Dane,

Can you please tell me in laymans terms what a Q sheet is and how one uses it?

Thanks,

Johnny

At 09:13 PM 8/19/2010, you wrote:

Hi!

One of the many things I like about VLC Media Player is its ability 
to handle cue sheets and associated audio files, a cue and wave or a 
cue and Flac pair for example so I was quite astonished when i 
discovered that Winamp won't handle this, does anyone know of a 
Winamp plug-in which may solve the problem or perhaps an accessible 
piece of software for Windows which will play cue sheets with 
associated audio files?


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Re: Playing of cue files

2010-08-19 Thread Johnny Angel!

Dane,

Just saw this post from you.

Thanks,

Johnny

At 10:18 PM 8/19/2010, you wrote:
Cue files are text files, you can edit them in a text editor.  They 
point to positions in an accompanying file and show where tracks 
begin and end, supply track information to the player etc.


CD burning software such as Exact Audio Copy and Easy CD DA 
Extractor can make use of them to burn CD'S or to extract audio into 
other formats.


Audio editors such as Goldwave, Total Recorder and Amadeus Pro make 
use of them to mark particular positions in an audio file.



On 20/08/2010, at 11:26 AM, richard claypool wrote:

 what exactly are cue files?  I've heard the term but not sure 
what they are.


 msn
 bellevue@gmail.com
 skype
 lord_of_beer
 last fm
 http://last.fm/lord_of_beer

 - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan 
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 To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:13 PM
 Subject: Playing of cue files


 Hi!

 One of the many things I like about VLC Media Player is its 
ability to handle cue sheets and associated audio files, a cue and 
wave or a cue and Flac pair for example so I was quite astonished 
when i discovered that Winamp won't handle this, does anyone know 
of a Winamp plug-in which may solve the problem or perhaps an 
accessible piece of software for Windows which will play cue sheets 
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Fw: [The Conduit] FW: Attention Baseball Fans!

2010-08-19 Thread Tom Kaufman
Hope this isn't going off-topic..but I think there are some on this list 
who may wwant to participate in this since some of you may be subscribers to 
MLB!

Tom Kaufman
- Original , August 19, 2010 9:34 PM
Subject: [The Conduit] FW: Attention Baseball Fans!



Subject: Attention Baseball Fans!


Forward from another list.
Hi everyone,
AS you may know, ACB and a few of its affiliates have been working closely
with Major League baseball on the accessibility of
blocked::http://www.mlb.com/ www.mlb.com and other accessibility issues.
WE've been asked to locate fans of teams who will be playing in the 
playoffs

in October and who also use the mlb website. AS of this moment, the
following teams would make the playoffs if the season ended today. 
Yankees,
Rays, Rangers, Twins, Braves, Reds, Phillies and Padres.Other contenders 
who

are on the outside looking in include the Redsox, White sox, Giants and
Cardinals. All interested parties should email me privately at
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Bob Hachey


Andrea Pitsenbarger, MA

Access Technology Specialist

Access Ingenuity

3635 Montgomery Dr.

Santa Rosa, CA 95405

T: 877-579-4380

F: 707-579-4273

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