RE: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
I know BW builds a specific model of desktop speakers with  it's own
digital to analog converter.  That's supposed to be the rolls roce of desk
top speakers according to the reviews!

AAnd most probably with the price of one too!



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane trethowan
Sent: 02 December 2011 09:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

Hi!

O don't think there are any best speakers on the market, its all down to the
ears and what sounds pleasing and pleasant to you.

I've had Altec Lansing speakers for my PC's and Mac's in the past, I've been
happy to own them thus I've mentioned them here so other people may listen
to or buy them as the case may be.

I have 2 model of altec Lansing speaker system here both of which I like
very much.

I have the Expressionist Plus which I mentioned about a month ago and the
Expressionist Ultra which I've been talking about over the last week or so.

The Expressionist ultra speakers are one of the very few sets of speaker
system for computer systems where the sound is All there, the mid-range,
the treble and certainly the bass and it appears that no materr what volume
you run this system at there's no distortion so its obvious that the 5
digital amps in the system are doing their job smile.

One thing that does annoy me about this system and its a very slight
annoyance is the subwoofer, its huge! standing 15 inches high, looks more
like a pollished wooden PC tower case so if big sub-woofers annoy you then
don't bother with this system.

Yep, Creative and other company's have offerings which are very well
reviewed but it will be up to other list members to comment on these as I
don't have experience with them.

As far as accessibility goes? Well in the case of the speaker systems I've
been discussing, w're talking speakers and not devices with screens one
cannot read smile.



On 2/12/2011 6:45 PM, jason wrote:
 Hello I want to know these speakers you are describing are they the 
 best on the market that are accessible to us or is there sonie ones 
 and creative labs ones as well I am just trying to find out everyone's 
 opinion on here about speakers before purchasing them.

 On 12/1/2011 5:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Okay, as I remember here's what's in the Altec Lansing Expressions 
 Ultra Box apart from mounds of packing which is absolute proof that 
 us humans are descended from apessmile.

 2 satellite 2-way speakers
 1 Sub-Woofer
 1 control panel
 1 3.5MM-3.5MM jack lead
 1 manual
 1 3.5MM socket to 2 RCA jack adapter

 To the control panel, its round and consists of a number of controls.

 As you'll see it looks like a mini witches hat, the hat itself turns 
 in either direction, you'll hear or feel it click as you turn it, 
 each time it clicks the faster the control.

 For example by default the knob controls the volume, turn it to the 
 first click clockwise and the volume increases slowly, turn to the 
 next click and volume increase is more rapid and so on.

 On the top of the controller are 3 buttons, 2 which are big and a 
 middle button which is small.

 The upper of the 2 big buttons is your treble, press once and then 
 turn the knob to adjust treble.

 The lower button is your bass, press once and then turn knob to 
 adjust base.

 The smaller button in the middle is your power button, press once 
 to turn power on and press again to turn power off.

 This button has another default, if held down for 3 seconds the 
 speakers are reset to their default volume, bass and treble settings.

 Now their could be more options and settings I don't know about, I 
 mentioned that the manual isn't the readable type so everything I've 
 mentioned here I've found out by playing around with the system.


 On 02/12/2011, at 7:54 AM, Matthew and Edgar wrote:

 I did get the speakers and love them. I do need to get someone 
 sighted here because I basically know where the buttons are to 
 change from treble to base to mids but not exactly sure the 
 difference between the mid and the base. I can only tell two grooves 
 so it looks like only two buttons to me. Also does anyone have a 
 list of exactly what comes with it? I am paranoid. There is a little 
 piece that looks like a splitter for input but it is odd that it 
 doesn't connect to a male piece. Do you need an extra corde like the 
 one that goes from the control to the pc to go from the splitter to 
 the controller? Also I am not finding the power button on the sub 
 woofer itself.

 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:43 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Altec Lansing Expressions Plus Ultra Speaker Ssytem

 Yeah, the alternative source input did strike me too! if it is then 
 I can find a way to switch to the thing, problem 

Re: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

2011-12-02 Thread Dane Trethowan

Then of course you have different types of computer speaker systems.

The Altec Lansing Expressionist Plus and Ultra are 2.1 channel speaker 
systems meaning that they have a sub-woofer and 2 satellite speakers.  
I'm not sure what type of system the model is you're referring to as 
I've not seen it before but then again I'm not surprised smile but 
there are also desktop models, in order to get a good pair of these then 
you're going to pay a fairly grand price, possibly $300.00 or even more 
as the below message implies.


For music then 2.1 speaker systems are usually a good value for money 
choice given their price and even the cheapest systems usually sound 
quite okay.




On 2/12/2011 7:10 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

I know BW builds a specific model of desktop speakers with  it's own
digital to analog converter.  That's supposed to be the rolls roce of desk
top speakers according to the reviews!

AAnd most probably with the price of one too!



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane trethowan
Sent: 02 December 2011 09:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

Hi!

O don't think there are any best speakers on the market, its all down to the
ears and what sounds pleasing and pleasant to you.

I've had Altec Lansing speakers for my PC's and Mac's in the past, I've been
happy to own them thus I've mentioned them here so other people may listen
to or buy them as the case may be.

I have 2 model of altec Lansing speaker system here both of which I like
very much.

I have the Expressionist Plus which I mentioned about a month ago and the
Expressionist Ultra which I've been talking about over the last week or so.

The Expressionist ultra speakers are one of the very few sets of speaker
system for computer systems where the sound is All there, the mid-range,
the treble and certainly the bass and it appears that no materr what volume
you run this system at there's no distortion so its obvious that the 5
digital amps in the system are doing their jobsmile.

One thing that does annoy me about this system and its a very slight
annoyance is the subwoofer, its huge! standing 15 inches high, looks more
like a pollished wooden PC tower case so if big sub-woofers annoy you then
don't bother with this system.

Yep, Creative and other company's have offerings which are very well
reviewed but it will be up to other list members to comment on these as I
don't have experience with them.

As far as accessibility goes? Well in the case of the speaker systems I've
been discussing, w're talking speakers and not devices with screens one
cannot readsmile.



On 2/12/2011 6:45 PM, jason wrote:

Hello I want to know these speakers you are describing are they the
best on the market that are accessible to us or is there sonie ones
and creative labs ones as well I am just trying to find out everyone's
opinion on here about speakers before purchasing them.

On 12/1/2011 5:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Okay, as I remember here's what's in the Altec Lansing Expressions
Ultra Box apart from mounds of packing which is absolute proof that
us humans are descended from apessmile.

2 satellite 2-way speakers
1 Sub-Woofer
1 control panel
1 3.5MM-3.5MM jack lead
1 manual
1 3.5MM socket to 2 RCA jack adapter

To the control panel, its round and consists of a number of controls.

As you'll see it looks like a mini witches hat, the hat itself turns
in either direction, you'll hear or feel it click as you turn it,
each time it clicks the faster the control.

For example by default the knob controls the volume, turn it to the
first click clockwise and the volume increases slowly, turn to the
next click and volume increase is more rapid and so on.

On the top of the controller are 3 buttons, 2 which are big and a
middle button which is small.

The upper of the 2 big buttons is your treble, press once and then
turn the knob to adjust treble.

The lower button is your bass, press once and then turn knob to
adjust base.

The smaller button in the middle is your power button, press once
to turn power on and press again to turn power off.

This button has another default, if held down for 3 seconds the
speakers are reset to their default volume, bass and treble settings.

Now their could be more options and settings I don't know about, I
mentioned that the manual isn't the readable type so everything I've
mentioned here I've found out by playing around with the system.


On 02/12/2011, at 7:54 AM, Matthew and Edgar wrote:


 I did get the speakers and love them. I do need to get someone
sighted here because I basically know where the buttons are to
change from treble to base to mids but not exactly sure the
difference between the mid and the base. I can only tell two grooves
so it looks like only two buttons to me. Also does anyone have a
list of exactly what comes with it? I am paranoid. There is a little
piece that 

RE: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
Hi Dane

This is a 2.1 system yes.

I think what happens with the BW system is that this specific company has
been known for its speakers for quite a few years now.  So thy probably know
about speaker systems.

It has a USB port as well as an analog input port.  And being a 2.1 system
it is very specifically geared to music listening.  The advantage of using a
built-in DAC would I think be that it is not possible to get mismatched
equipment.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 02 December 2011 10:23 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

Then of course you have different types of computer speaker systems.

The Altec Lansing Expressionist Plus and Ultra are 2.1 channel speaker
systems meaning that they have a sub-woofer and 2 satellite speakers.  
I'm not sure what type of system the model is you're referring to as I've
not seen it before but then again I'm not surprised smile but there are
also desktop models, in order to get a good pair of these then you're going
to pay a fairly grand price, possibly $300.00 or even more as the below
message implies.

For music then 2.1 speaker systems are usually a good value for money choice
given their price and even the cheapest systems usually sound quite okay.



On 2/12/2011 7:10 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
 I know BW builds a specific model of desktop speakers with  it's own 
 digital to analog converter.  That's supposed to be the rolls roce of 
 desk top speakers according to the reviews!

 AAnd most probably with the price of one too!



 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane trethowan
 Sent: 02 December 2011 09:58 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

 Hi!

 O don't think there are any best speakers on the market, its all down 
 to the ears and what sounds pleasing and pleasant to you.

 I've had Altec Lansing speakers for my PC's and Mac's in the past, 
 I've been happy to own them thus I've mentioned them here so other 
 people may listen to or buy them as the case may be.

 I have 2 model of altec Lansing speaker system here both of which I 
 like very much.

 I have the Expressionist Plus which I mentioned about a month ago and 
 the Expressionist Ultra which I've been talking about over the last week
or so.

 The Expressionist ultra speakers are one of the very few sets of 
 speaker system for computer systems where the sound is All there, 
 the mid-range, the treble and certainly the bass and it appears that 
 no materr what volume you run this system at there's no distortion so 
 its obvious that the 5 digital amps in the system are doing their
jobsmile.

 One thing that does annoy me about this system and its a very slight 
 annoyance is the subwoofer, its huge! standing 15 inches high, looks 
 more like a pollished wooden PC tower case so if big sub-woofers annoy 
 you then don't bother with this system.

 Yep, Creative and other company's have offerings which are very well 
 reviewed but it will be up to other list members to comment on these 
 as I don't have experience with them.

 As far as accessibility goes? Well in the case of the speaker systems 
 I've been discussing, w're talking speakers and not devices with 
 screens one cannot readsmile.



 On 2/12/2011 6:45 PM, jason wrote:
 Hello I want to know these speakers you are describing are they the 
 best on the market that are accessible to us or is there sonie ones 
 and creative labs ones as well I am just trying to find out 
 everyone's opinion on here about speakers before purchasing them.

 On 12/1/2011 5:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Okay, as I remember here's what's in the Altec Lansing Expressions 
 Ultra Box apart from mounds of packing which is absolute proof that 
 us humans are descended from apessmile.

 2 satellite 2-way speakers
 1 Sub-Woofer
 1 control panel
 1 3.5MM-3.5MM jack lead
 1 manual
 1 3.5MM socket to 2 RCA jack adapter

 To the control panel, its round and consists of a number of controls.

 As you'll see it looks like a mini witches hat, the hat itself turns 
 in either direction, you'll hear or feel it click as you turn it, 
 each time it clicks the faster the control.

 For example by default the knob controls the volume, turn it to the 
 first click clockwise and the volume increases slowly, turn to the 
 next click and volume increase is more rapid and so on.

 On the top of the controller are 3 buttons, 2 which are big and a 
 middle button which is small.

 The upper of the 2 big buttons is your treble, press once and then 
 turn the knob to adjust treble.

 The lower button is your bass, press once and then turn knob to 
 adjust base.

 The smaller button in the middle is your power button, press once 
 to turn power on and press again to turn power off.

 This button has 

Re: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

2011-12-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Howdy!

Yep those speakers sound nice and I wouldn't have known about them had you not 
mentioned them.

I can clearly see the advantages and I wouldn't say for one minute that the 
Ltec Lansing 2.1 Expressionist Ultra system was perfect as its not but its damn 
good for the price one would pay.

Unlike the professional set you're talking about the Expressionist Ultra has 
only 1 analogue input and 1 only, no USB port but it does boast Digital 
amplification, in short this means more amplification using less power and you 
get the benefit or little or no distortion.

Again, not in quite the same league as the speakers you mentioned but a damn 
good value for money option which would do anyone proud, those last few words 
are echoed from the man I know who runs a Pro audio store smile and he 
doesn't sell them.


On 02/12/2011, at 7:48 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

 Hi Dane
 
 This is a 2.1 system yes.
 
 I think what happens with the BW system is that this specific company has
 been known for its speakers for quite a few years now.  So thy probably know
 about speaker systems.
 
 It has a USB port as well as an analog input port.  And being a 2.1 system
 it is very specifically geared to music listening.  The advantage of using a
 built-in DAC would I think be that it is not possible to get mismatched
 equipment.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: 02 December 2011 10:23 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers
 
 Then of course you have different types of computer speaker systems.
 
 The Altec Lansing Expressionist Plus and Ultra are 2.1 channel speaker
 systems meaning that they have a sub-woofer and 2 satellite speakers.  
 I'm not sure what type of system the model is you're referring to as I've
 not seen it before but then again I'm not surprised smile but there are
 also desktop models, in order to get a good pair of these then you're going
 to pay a fairly grand price, possibly $300.00 or even more as the below
 message implies.
 
 For music then 2.1 speaker systems are usually a good value for money choice
 given their price and even the cheapest systems usually sound quite okay.
 
 
 
 On 2/12/2011 7:10 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
 I know BW builds a specific model of desktop speakers with  it's own 
 digital to analog converter.  That's supposed to be the rolls roce of 
 desk top speakers according to the reviews!
 
 AAnd most probably with the price of one too!
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane trethowan
 Sent: 02 December 2011 09:58 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers
 
 Hi!
 
 O don't think there are any best speakers on the market, its all down 
 to the ears and what sounds pleasing and pleasant to you.
 
 I've had Altec Lansing speakers for my PC's and Mac's in the past, 
 I've been happy to own them thus I've mentioned them here so other 
 people may listen to or buy them as the case may be.
 
 I have 2 model of altec Lansing speaker system here both of which I 
 like very much.
 
 I have the Expressionist Plus which I mentioned about a month ago and 
 the Expressionist Ultra which I've been talking about over the last week
 or so.
 
 The Expressionist ultra speakers are one of the very few sets of 
 speaker system for computer systems where the sound is All there, 
 the mid-range, the treble and certainly the bass and it appears that 
 no materr what volume you run this system at there's no distortion so 
 its obvious that the 5 digital amps in the system are doing their
 jobsmile.
 
 One thing that does annoy me about this system and its a very slight 
 annoyance is the subwoofer, its huge! standing 15 inches high, looks 
 more like a pollished wooden PC tower case so if big sub-woofers annoy 
 you then don't bother with this system.
 
 Yep, Creative and other company's have offerings which are very well 
 reviewed but it will be up to other list members to comment on these 
 as I don't have experience with them.
 
 As far as accessibility goes? Well in the case of the speaker systems 
 I've been discussing, w're talking speakers and not devices with 
 screens one cannot readsmile.
 
 
 
 On 2/12/2011 6:45 PM, jason wrote:
 Hello I want to know these speakers you are describing are they the 
 best on the market that are accessible to us or is there sonie ones 
 and creative labs ones as well I am just trying to find out 
 everyone's opinion on here about speakers before purchasing them.
 
 On 12/1/2011 5:54 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Okay, as I remember here's what's in the Altec Lansing Expressions 
 Ultra Box apart from mounds of packing which is absolute proof that 
 us humans are descended from apessmile.
 
 2 satellite 2-way speakers
 1 Sub-Woofer
 1 control panel
 1 3.5MM-3.5MM 

RE: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
I can believe you!

It does seem as if the  manufacturers who usually concentrate  on hifi
equipment  are now also starting to realise that many people spend quite a
lot of time listening to music on their computers.  This means that we see
qite a lot of desktop systems now coming out from firms like BW.

What folks must just realise is that the sound of their speakers may also be
influenced  by the kind of sound device they use when connecting the
speakers.  The onboard sound chips on computer motherboards are really not
high fidelity at all - in order to get the maximum out of your speaker
system you will have to invest in a reasonably good sound device.

Because the BW system uses its own DAC, this becomes a mute point of
course!



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 02 December 2011 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers

Howdy!

Yep those speakers sound nice and I wouldn't have known about them had you
not mentioned them.

I can clearly see the advantages and I wouldn't say for one minute that the
Ltec Lansing 2.1 Expressionist Ultra system was perfect as its not but its
damn good for the price one would pay.

Unlike the professional set you're talking about the Expressionist Ultra has
only 1 analogue input and 1 only, no USB port but it does boast Digital
amplification, in short this means more amplification using less power and
you get the benefit or little or no distortion.

Again, not in quite the same league as the speakers you mentioned but a damn
good value for money option which would do anyone proud, those last few
words are echoed from the man I know who runs a Pro audio store smile and
he doesn't sell them.


On 02/12/2011, at 7:48 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

 Hi Dane
 
 This is a 2.1 system yes.
 
 I think what happens with the BW system is that this specific company 
 has been known for its speakers for quite a few years now.  So thy 
 probably know about speaker systems.
 
 It has a USB port as well as an analog input port.  And being a 2.1 
 system it is very specifically geared to music listening.  The 
 advantage of using a built-in DAC would I think be that it is not 
 possible to get mismatched equipment.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: 02 December 2011 10:23 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers
 
 Then of course you have different types of computer speaker systems.
 
 The Altec Lansing Expressionist Plus and Ultra are 2.1 channel speaker 
 systems meaning that they have a sub-woofer and 2 satellite speakers.
 I'm not sure what type of system the model is you're referring to as 
 I've not seen it before but then again I'm not surprised smile but 
 there are also desktop models, in order to get a good pair of these 
 then you're going to pay a fairly grand price, possibly $300.00 or 
 even more as the below message implies.
 
 For music then 2.1 speaker systems are usually a good value for money 
 choice given their price and even the cheapest systems usually sound quite
okay.
 
 
 
 On 2/12/2011 7:10 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
 I know BW builds a specific model of desktop speakers with  it's own 
 digital to analog converter.  That's supposed to be the rolls roce of 
 desk top speakers according to the reviews!
 
 AAnd most probably with the price of one too!
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Dane trethowan
 Sent: 02 December 2011 09:58 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra Speakers
 
 Hi!
 
 O don't think there are any best speakers on the market, its all down 
 to the ears and what sounds pleasing and pleasant to you.
 
 I've had Altec Lansing speakers for my PC's and Mac's in the past, 
 I've been happy to own them thus I've mentioned them here so other 
 people may listen to or buy them as the case may be.
 
 I have 2 model of altec Lansing speaker system here both of which I 
 like very much.
 
 I have the Expressionist Plus which I mentioned about a month ago and 
 the Expressionist Ultra which I've been talking about over the last 
 week
 or so.
 
 The Expressionist ultra speakers are one of the very few sets of 
 speaker system for computer systems where the sound is All there, 
 the mid-range, the treble and certainly the bass and it appears that 
 no materr what volume you run this system at there's no distortion so 
 its obvious that the 5 digital amps in the system are doing their
 jobsmile.
 
 One thing that does annoy me about this system and its a very slight 
 annoyance is the subwoofer, its huge! standing 15 inches high, looks 
 more like a pollished wooden PC tower case so if big sub-woofers 
 annoy you then don't 

RE: Audacity

2011-12-02 Thread Colin Phelan
Hi David,
Have you any idea what would cause this.
All going well, effectively chopped off front end of file saved as new name 
then imported new file using open command to chop end off it.
However, I have tried this on a number of occasions and the converted MP3 file 
to audacity format only seems to load about 60% of the file in other words the 
remaining 40% approx does not convert hence is not there to remove the end of 
it.
The total file length is around 50 mins 
Thanks for any ideas 
Colin 
 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from The below points which I read to mean find where you are 
going to start to chop it then take off that to the end of the file but I may 
be mis understanding If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file 
and remove the file up to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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Re: Audacity

2011-12-02 Thread David Bailes
Hi Colin,
I'm not sure what's going on. Could you check the length of the audio after 
you've first read the file into audacity, and then after you've chopped off the 
first five minutes, and before you've exported or saved it. You can check the 
length of the audio by:
1. press end to move to the end of the audio
2. press ctrl+f6 to move to the selection bar.
3. press tab until you get to the selection start control, which also gives the 
cursor position if there's no selection. Since the cursor is at the end of the 
audio, this will give the length of the audio. The format will probably be 
hh:mm:ss, so you'll hear something like 00h52m43s.
4. press ctrl+f6 twice to return to the audio tracks, which is where you were 
before pressing the ctrl+f6 in step 1.

Also, are you saving the file to mp3 format or as an audacity project?

David.


- Original Message -
From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 13:48
Subject: RE: Audacity

Hi David,
Have you any idea what would cause this.
All going well, effectively chopped off front end of file saved as new name 
then imported new file using open command to chop end off it.
However, I have tried this on a number of occasions and the converted MP3 file 
to audacity format only seems to load about 60% of the file in other words the 
remaining 40% approx does not convert hence is not there to remove the end of 
it.
The total file length is around 50 mins 
Thanks for any ideas 
Colin 


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from The below points which I read to mean find where you are 
going to start to chop it then take off that to the end of the file but I may 
be mis understanding If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file 
and remove the file up to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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Re: Audacity

2011-12-02 Thread David Bailes
Hi Colin,
forgot to ask you what versions of windows and audacity are you using?
thanks,
David.


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From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 13:48
Subject: RE: Audacity

Hi David,
Have you any idea what would cause this.
All going well, effectively chopped off front end of file saved as new name 
then imported new file using open command to chop end off it.
However, I have tried this on a number of occasions and the converted MP3 file 
to audacity format only seems to load about 60% of the file in other words the 
remaining 40% approx does not convert hence is not there to remove the end of 
it.
The total file length is around 50 mins 
Thanks for any ideas 
Colin 


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from The below points which I read to mean find where you are 
going to start to chop it then take off that to the end of the file but I may 
be mis understanding If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file 
and remove the file up to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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RE: Audacity

2011-12-02 Thread Colin Phelan
David,
Version 1.3.13 beta with Win 7 
Not grasped your last support instructions 
With regard to length of file, would fully sighted person be able to view this 
just by looking at screen do you know?
Thanks 
Colin


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Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 02 December 2011 14:55
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
forgot to ask you what versions of windows and audacity are you using?
thanks,
David.


- Original Message -
From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 13:48
Subject: RE: Audacity

Hi David,
Have you any idea what would cause this.
All going well, effectively chopped off front end of file saved as new name 
then imported new file using open command to chop end off it.
However, I have tried this on a number of occasions and the converted MP3 file 
to audacity format only seems to load about 60% of the file in other words the 
remaining 40% approx does not convert hence is not there to remove the end of 
it.
The total file length is around 50 mins Thanks for any ideas Colin 


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from The below points which I read to mean find where you are 
going to start to chop it then take off that to the end of the file but I may 
be mis understanding If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file 
and remove the file up to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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Re: Audacity

2011-12-02 Thread David Bailes
Hi Colin,
yes a fully sighted person would be able to see the length of the track, as 
there's a time scale running across the window above the tracks. Couldn't you 
find the selection start control?

David.


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From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 15:18
Subject: RE: Audacity

David,
Version 1.3.13 beta with Win 7 
Not grasped your last support instructions 
With regard to length of file, would fully sighted person be able to view this 
just by looking at screen do you know?
Thanks 
Colin    


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 02 December 2011 14:55
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
forgot to ask you what versions of windows and audacity are you using?
thanks,
David.


- Original Message -
From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 13:48
Subject: RE: Audacity

Hi David,
Have you any idea what would cause this.
All going well, effectively chopped off front end of file saved as new name 
then imported new file using open command to chop end off it.
However, I have tried this on a number of occasions and the converted MP3 file 
to audacity format only seems to load about 60% of the file in other words the 
remaining 40% approx does not convert hence is not there to remove the end of 
it.
The total file length is around 50 mins Thanks for any ideas Colin 


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from The below points which I read to mean find where you are 
going to start to chop it then take off that to the end of the file but I may 
be mis understanding If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file 
and remove the file up to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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RE: Audacity

2011-12-02 Thread Colin Phelan
Thanks David,
Original file was 41 mins, next file 8 mins 
Wanted sighted assistance to confirm speech output was correct if you know what 
I mean.
Let me try again now I am getting to know programme better 
Incidentally using supanova speech output says hms831 
Thanks again 
Colin  

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Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 02 December 2011 15:29
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
yes a fully sighted person would be able to see the length of the track, as 
there's a time scale running across the window above the tracks. Couldn't you 
find the selection start control?

David.


- Original Message -
From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 15:18
Subject: RE: Audacity

David,
Version 1.3.13 beta with Win 7
Not grasped your last support instructions With regard to length of file, would 
fully sighted person be able to view this just by looking at screen do you know?
Thanks
Colin    


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 02 December 2011 14:55
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
forgot to ask you what versions of windows and audacity are you using?
thanks,
David.


- Original Message -
From: Colin Phelan colin_phe...@pmlgroup.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2011, 13:48
Subject: RE: Audacity

Hi David,
Have you any idea what would cause this.
All going well, effectively chopped off front end of file saved as new name 
then imported new file using open command to chop end off it.
However, I have tried this on a number of occasions and the converted MP3 file 
to audacity format only seems to load about 60% of the file in other words the 
remaining 40% approx does not convert hence is not there to remove the end of 
it.
The total file length is around 50 mins Thanks for any ideas Colin 


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity

Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into 
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start 
of the audio.
3. press delete.
 
So shift+home and shift+end work in a similar way that they work when editing a 
line of text.
 
David.
 
orginal message:
Hi David,
I'm getting there, if I want to chop the front end of a file off is it the same 
my question comes from The below points which I read to mean find where you are 
going to start to chop it then take off that to the end of the file but I may 
be mis understanding If I want to find the place around 5 mins into the file 
and remove the file up to this point what do I do 


2. move cursor to the start of the section which you want to chop off. This is 
described in detail below.
3. press shift + end to select a time range from the cursor to the end of the 
file, 

Many thanks 

Colin 

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Google Chrome and Google home page woes

2011-12-02 Thread Johnny Angel

Hi all,

I thought I would try to make sense of Google Chrome using WE 7.2 on my 
XP machine.  Boy!  Was I wrong!


Does anyone know how to get rid of Google Chrome off of my computer? 
Add Remove doesn't do it either.


Then I thought to get on the web and look for info on how to uninstall 
Google Chrome.  But, when I invoked IE, I was faced with a Google 
Accessibility Documentation page with which I am unable to search or 
anything!  Furthermore, I am not able to get rid of or change the IE 
home page to my personal prefered home page.  I tried getting rid of it 
by choosing blank page in Tools, Internet Options but no go with that
either.  I even tried invoking my personal home page from the run dialog 
box which came up just fine.  But when I tried to choose that page by 
selecting, use current under Tools and internet options, the
very next time I went into IE, the same old useless google accessibility 
documentation page came up again.  I'm about ready to go sky diving 
without a parashoot!


Please don't confuse the very useful google accessibility search page we 
all have come to know and love, with this useless google accessibility 
documentation page.


If you are able to help me to first get rid of google chrome, please, 
please do so help me.  I would be grateful to be able to use the 
internet with some sence of normalcy once again.


Thanks,

Johnny
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Student of Happyness
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Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Walter
Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter. 


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Dave Scrimenti
You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to 
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed 
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very 
accessible.
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From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used

nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Rick Roderick
I like Winamp because I can always go to the title bar and tell what's 
playing.  I have never figured out a way to get WMP to display that, unless 
I am looking in the wrong place.

I like the Winamp Book feature, but I can't figure out a way to categorize 
things. 


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
I haven't tried all of the players you mentioned.  But I have used WMP, Real 
Player and Winamp; I like Winamp the best!  For one thing, with Winamp, it's 
quite easy to get from point A to point B in a file; you can adjust the 
volume (without having to worry that you'll also mess up the volume of your 
screen reader (Real Player used to have that problem; they may have fixed 
that now) but for what I've used players for, I like Winamp!

Tom Kaufman
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From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring 
here

to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being 
used

nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and 
response

time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of 
use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
comments

will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain
What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
 You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
 player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
 files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
 accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
 Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus
 
 
 Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
 players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
 are
 not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
 enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
 referring here
 to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
 burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
 like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
 did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
 media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
 used
 nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
 scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
 response
 time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
 opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
 players
 would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
 of use,
 it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
 if you
 can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
 comments
 will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Walter
Hi.  Well mainly I want other options other than the two I currently use.
The ability to navigate with in a file and particularly the bookmark
facility would be most helpful.  My main concern is just how accessible the
programme is with JAWS.  Also, I understand there are plug ins for the
programme, are they free or do they have a cost attached to them.  Also,
exactly what does the basic version offer?  Does the ability to navigate
within files and bookmarks come within the scope of the standard version or
are scripts required to get full functionality from the programme.  A blind
person can use Gold wave without the scripts if they know what they are
doing but to get the full benefit Scripts are really necessary for gold
Wave, is Winamp the same?  Finally, what other programmes have the Bookmark
facility and ability to navigate within a file.  One other thing I haven't
mentioned but it would be helpful and that is the ability to play a very
large folder of mp3 files in a jukebox fashion.  At the moment I have a
folder with just over 10,000 mp3 files in it.  I have WMP set to shuffle
mode and I merely select all then add to Windows media player and I can play
music for hours without interruption.  This folder is going to grow to
150,000 files and much more.  I just wonder if Winamp will be able to handle
that amount of files in a similar fashion.  Walter.

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On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 03 December 2011 00:23
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
 You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
 player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
 files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
 accessible.
 - Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
 Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus
 
 
 Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
 players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
 are
 not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
 enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
 referring here
 to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
 burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
 like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
 did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
 media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
 used
 nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
 scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
 response
 time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
 opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
 players
 would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
 of use,
 it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
 if you
 can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
 comments
 will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
Walter:  I would say that Winamp is most accessible; someone I know will 
correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, no special scripts are needed 
to do things like move within a file and so forth.

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi.  Well mainly I want other options other than the two I currently use.
The ability to navigate with in a file and particularly the bookmark
facility would be most helpful.  My main concern is just how accessible 
the

programme is with JAWS.  Also, I understand there are plug ins for the
programme, are they free or do they have a cost attached to them.  Also,
exactly what does the basic version offer?  Does the ability to navigate
within files and bookmarks come within the scope of the standard version 
or
are scripts required to get full functionality from the programme.  A 
blind

person can use Gold wave without the scripts if they know what they are
doing but to get the full benefit Scripts are really necessary for gold
Wave, is Winamp the same?  Finally, what other programmes have the 
Bookmark

facility and ability to navigate within a file.  One other thing I haven't
mentioned but it would be helpful and that is the ability to play a very
large folder of mp3 files in a jukebox fashion.  At the moment I have a
folder with just over 10,000 mp3 files in it.  I have WMP set to shuffle
mode and I merely select all then add to Windows media player and I can 
play

music for hours without interruption.  This folder is going to grow to
150,000 files and much more.  I just wonder if Winamp will be able to 
handle

that amount of files in a similar fashion.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 03 December 2011 00:23
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
accessible.
- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need

scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Dave Scrimenti

It does use scripts, but they come with Jaws. Most plug-ins are free.
- Original Message - 
From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi.  Well mainly I want other options other than the two I currently use.
The ability to navigate with in a file and particularly the bookmark
facility would be most helpful.  My main concern is just how accessible 
the

programme is with JAWS.  Also, I understand there are plug ins for the
programme, are they free or do they have a cost attached to them.  Also,
exactly what does the basic version offer?  Does the ability to navigate
within files and bookmarks come within the scope of the standard version 
or
are scripts required to get full functionality from the programme.  A 
blind

person can use Gold wave without the scripts if they know what they are
doing but to get the full benefit Scripts are really necessary for gold
Wave, is Winamp the same?  Finally, what other programmes have the 
Bookmark

facility and ability to navigate within a file.  One other thing I haven't
mentioned but it would be helpful and that is the ability to play a very
large folder of mp3 files in a jukebox fashion.  At the moment I have a
folder with just over 10,000 mp3 files in it.  I have WMP set to shuffle
mode and I merely select all then add to Windows media player and I can 
play

music for hours without interruption.  This folder is going to grow to
150,000 files and much more.  I just wonder if Winamp will be able to 
handle

that amount of files in a similar fashion.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 03 December 2011 00:23
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

What are you looking for in a media player? I like Winamp because I can
manage my local libraries, my portable media players and my podcasts. I
also like the bookmarks feature and the ability to skip around in a
file. Handling content over the internet isv't very accessible though.

I like FooBar 2000 because it's interface is so simple. You can also
manage local libraries with it. Setting it up is kind of tedious though,
since you need to set up all of your own hot keys. I don't think it
manages podcasts for you. It does come in a portable flavor though,
which is nice if you want to run it off of a USB drive or SD card.

I still pull up WMP occasionally, but that's mostly just to rip CD's.

On 02/12/11 17:22, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

You're not going to hear any difference in sound quality from player to
player. The only ways to improve sound quality are to use uncompressed
files, or a better audio card. Winamp and Foobar 2000 are both very
accessible.
- Original Message - From: Walter w...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus



Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others
are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm
referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I 
never

did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being
used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you 
need

scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and
response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other
players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease
of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but
if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All
comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
Walter

Don't forget foobar2000 also.  This is what I use for most of my playing.
The downside is that you have to designate your own shortcut keys but this
can be  very easily done.  

Another  interesting option for really a very small fee is Mapler  which is
a small media player written especially for visually impaired persons in
mind.  The amount you pay is neglible if you compare it to what you get for
it.

Just some other options to consider.

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Walter
Sent: 03 December 2011 01:18 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter. 


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changing the batteries on my iriver h320 mp3 player

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
Hi folks!

 

Yes I know most folks will now tell me that tis is an ancient and clumsy
machine but it seems a shame to throw the machine away simply because of
this.  It is big yes but probably still one of the better mp3 players that
came out.

 

I think the batteries on my Iriver 320 has gon down.  Does anyone know if it
would still be possible to find  batteries for them?

 

I also heard somewhere that it is actually possible to upgrade the small
disk drive too?

 

 

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Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread Hank Smith

Hello what is the website fore Mapler?
also can you send me off list your keyboard shortcut file fore foobar?
Hank
On 12/2/2011 9:57 PM, André van Deventer wrote:

Walter

Don't forget foobar2000 also.  This is what I use for most of my playing.
The downside is that you have to designate your own shortcut keys but this
can be  very easily done.

Another  interesting option for really a very small fee is Mapler  which is
a small media player written especially for visually impaired persons in
mind.  The amount you pay is neglible if you compare it to what you get for
it.

Just some other options to consider.

Andre



-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Walter
Sent: 03 December 2011 01:18 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media
players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others are
not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does a good
enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm referring here
to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use Nero express for
burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping I use CDEX which I
like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my PC reformatted I never
did reinstall it.  My question is how does Winamp compare with the other
media players I've mentioned?  I have never observed this player being used
nor of course tried it.  Is it accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need
scripts to access it's functions?  How is the playback quality and response
time.  Sometimes the latest version isn't the best version so in your
opinion, what version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players
would you recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use,
it is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if you
can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All comments
will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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RE: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus....

2011-12-02 Thread André van Deventer
Website or Mapler is
http://www.mar-dy.com/MaPlEr/MaPlEr.php

You can actually download a demo from there which  is fully functional except 
for the fact that every 30 seconds or so you hear an announcement that you are 
working with a demo.

I really feel that this little player is more than worth the small sum they 
charge for the full version.



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Behalf Of Hank Smith
Sent: 03 December 2011 07:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

Hello what is the website fore Mapler?
also can you send me off list your keyboard shortcut file fore foobar?
Hank
On 12/2/2011 9:57 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
 Walter

 Don't forget foobar2000 also.  This is what I use for most of my playing.
 The downside is that you have to designate your own shortcut keys but 
 this can be  very easily done.

 Another  interesting option for really a very small fee is Mapler  
 which is a small media player written especially for visually impaired 
 persons in mind.  The amount you pay is neglible if you compare it to 
 what you get for it.

 Just some other options to consider.

 Andre



 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Walter
 Sent: 03 December 2011 01:18 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: Winamp Versus wmp Versus VLC Versus

 Hi all.  I'm toying with the idea of experimenting with various media 
 players.  Unfortunately not all are worth the trouble and still others 
 are not accessible with JAWS.  At this time I use both VLC witch does 
 a good enough job and WMP which is fine but rather restrictive.  I'm 
 referring here to playback and neither ripping nor burning as I use 
 Nero express for burning, and now and then Express burn.  For ripping 
 I use CDEX which I like.  I used to use Reel player but when I got my 
 PC reformatted I never did reinstall it.  My question is how does 
 Winamp compare with the other media players I've mentioned?  I have 
 never observed this player being used nor of course tried it.  Is it 
 accessible with JAWS 12 and or do you need scripts to access it's 
 functions?  How is the playback quality and response time.  Sometimes 
 the latest version isn't the best version so in your opinion, what 
 version is the most successful?  Finally, what other players would you 
 recommend, free or otherwise.  The important thing is ease of use, it 
 is of little use if the sound quality is the best in the world but if 
 you can't use it with a screen reader then it is a waste of time.  All 
 comments will be welcome and read.  Walter.


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