Re: [Pce] Any missed comments for draft-ietf-pce-sid-algo

2024-01-12 Thread tom petch
more but that is water under the bridge. Sometimes you have to say something along the lines of 'xxx whcih is referred to as zxyx in the Normative reference' Tom Petch IGP RFCs are talking about "SR-Algorithm" (as we already discussed in this thread), e.g. https://datatracker.ie

Re: [Pce] Any missed comments for draft-ietf-pce-sid-algo

2024-01-12 Thread tom petch
Samuel Yes the comments at the end work for me Tom Petch From: Samuel Sidor (ssidor) Sent: 11 January 2024 12:50 To: tom petch; Dhruv Dhody Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Pce] Any missed comments for draft-ietf-pce-sid-algo Hi Tom, Since you responded

Re: [Pce] Any missed comments for draft-ietf-pce-sid-algo

2024-01-11 Thread tom petch
Samuel Thank you for the reply. Dhruv made a similar response and I have responded to that. I think that that response addresses the answers you give but let me know if there is something I hve not addressed. Tom Petch From: Samuel Sidor (ssidor

Re: [Pce] Any missed comments for draft-ietf-pce-sid-algo

2024-01-11 Thread tom petch
inline From: Dhruv Dhody Sent: 10 January 2024 13:06 Hi Tom, WG, Speaking as a WG member... On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 4:30 PM tom petch mailto:ie...@btconnect.com>> wrote: Sent: 10 January 2024 10:18 Hi PCE WG, I would like to ask for WG LC for

Re: [Pce] Any missed comments for draft-ietf-pce-sid-algo

2024-01-10 Thread tom petch
to come with multiple algorithms in use it will likely be unclear what you are referencing in s.3.2, s.3.3, s.3.4; is it the range 0-127 or 0-255 or 128-255 or...? Tom Petch Thanks a lot, Samuel ___ Pce mailing list Pce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org

Re: [Pce] WG Adoption of draft-chen-pce-bier-11

2023-10-25 Thread tom petch
once the draft submission blockade is lifted! You can further post -01 handling comments received so far. Looking at the datatracker I see that it is already listed as an Active I-D under its old name. Isn't the datatracker clever? Tom Petch Thanks! Dhruv & Julien On Wed, Oct 11, 2023

Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-20

2023-05-25 Thread tom petch
nd AD'S time. Cheers, Adrian On 24/05/2023 16:33 BST tom petch mailto:ie...@btconnect.com>> wrote: From: Aijun Wang mailto:wangai...@tsinghua.org.cn>> Sent: 24 May 2023 16:02 As I remember, it is the IANA first allocate the necessary values, then go to the RFCEditor. Can we ask the

Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-20

2023-05-24 Thread tom petch
is impatient, another leisurely, then we may not have interoperability. I would expect some guidance on this. The I-D talks of RR with hundreds of clients which makes me wonder what else might happen, such as a DoS attack. Tom Petch Aijun Wang China Telecom > On May 24, 2023, at 17:24, tom petch wr

Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-20

2023-05-24 Thread tom petch
. The e-mails that I see are when things go wrong and either the RFC Editor or IANA (or both) are unclear as to what is intended and need guidance from the WG Tom Petch Aijun Wang China Telecom > On May 24, 2023, at 17:12, tom petch wrote: > > From: Aijun Wang > Sent: 23 May 2023

Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-20

2023-05-24 Thread tom petch
Adding a new concern about session setup From: Pce on behalf of tom petch Sent: 22 May 2023 12:35 From: Pce on behalf of Dhruv Dhody Sent: 16 May 2023 23:15 I do not understand how this operates. I would expect there to be two phases. first the boxes are configured with the information

Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-20

2023-05-24 Thread tom petch
te to the RFC Editor in IANA Considerations to the effect that these values appear in many places and need editing. I will post separately a concern about BGP session setup. Tom Petch For the interaction between BGP and PCEP, we think the paces or procedures described in this document can be c

Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-20

2023-05-22 Thread tom petch
Not another comment but to report that I got a bounce message to my previous comment to the effect that it could not be delivered to expand-draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native...@virtual.ietf.org Not an address that I am familiar with. Tom Petch From

Re: [Pce] WGLC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-20

2023-05-22 Thread tom petch
e language used is not that of BGP (e.g. Established, speaker). The timing too of BGP can be quite slow, in setup and in shutdown and I wonder how a PCC copes with that. As I say, largely beyond me but the English needs some attention; using the terminology of BGP would help. Tom Petch Pleas

Re: [Pce] Adoption Poll for draft-dhody-pce-pceps-tls13-02

2023-04-05 Thread tom petch
? Please, share your answer and any detailed feedback using the PCE mailing list. By when? And is there any IPR on it? Tom Petch Thanks, Julien _ Ce message et ses pieces

Re: [Pce] WG Adoption of draft-rajagopalan-pce-pcep-color-02

2022-12-02 Thread tom petch
, in the days of SMI, when many CCAMP registries were IANA-maintained but that seems to have fallen by the wayside, especially with TEAS which reinvented them in its I-Ds, close to but not quite the same as the IANA registries. So I see the problem but not a good solution. Tom Petch Please

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-19

2022-11-28 Thread tom petch
From: Pce on behalf of tom petch Sent: 25 November 2022 13:11 Some final (hopefully:-) stray thoughts on -20 after looking at RFC8231 typedef sync-state the states seem intuitively plausible but do not seem to be described as such in RFC8231, RFC8232 etc extended tunnel id is modelled

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-19

2022-11-25 Thread tom petch
of the identity I am almost done but not quite - I am trying to match 8231 with the YANG and have not quite made it but is is CoB on Friday afternoon:-( Tom Petch From: Pce on behalf of tom petch Sent: 22 November 2022 12:19 To: julien.meu...@orange.com; pce

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-19

2022-11-22 Thread tom petch
From: Pce on behalf of tom petch Sent: 17 November 2022 10:42 From: Pce on behalf of julien.meu...@orange.com Sent: 17 November 2022 09:38 As mentioned in the PCE session during IETF 115, this WGLC has ended. Thanks Tom for your review. Comment resolution is in progress. -20 did appear

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-19

2022-11-17 Thread tom petch
From: Pce on behalf of julien.meu...@orange.com Sent: 17 November 2022 09:38 As mentioned in the PCE session during IETF 115, this WGLC has ended. Thanks Tom for your review. Comment resolution is in progress. -20 did appear in October. Is that worth looking at or waiting for -21? Tom

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-19

2022-10-07 Thread tom petch
have seen statements in other WG to the effect that of course TLS1.2 is just fine and we have no intention of doing anything else and one such I-D is past the IESG. Meanwhile I note the 'How to ... over 13' I-Ds and wish I had written one as I intended in March:-( Tom Petch Thanks! Dhruv (co-

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-19

2022-10-07 Thread tom petch
From: Pce on behalf of tom petch Sent: 03 October 2022 11:02 From: Pce on behalf of julien.meu...@orange.com Sent: 26 September 2022 14:01 Hi PCE WG, This message starts a 2-week WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-19. Please review and share any feedback using the PCE mailing list

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-19

2022-10-06 Thread tom petch
of must + error-message for config false. I am used to it for validating an update and cannot see when this message will be generated. This occurs in a number of places. RPC often have a nacm default-deny-all s.9 The YANG modules .../is/are/ Tom Petch Thanks, Julien

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-19

2022-10-03 Thread tom petch
that that got watered down by the supporters of TLS1.3. This I-D needs the equivalent (or else a MUST NOT for TLS1.3!). Many of those involved with security in the IETF will not understand the issue, how dangerous TLS1.3 is for anything other than web access. Tom Petch Thanks, Julien

Re: [Pce] Scoping Items from draft-koldychev-pce-operational

2022-09-30 Thread tom petch
the course of preparation, further issues arise so that the document may never be quite up-to-date, but that is hypothetical. Tom Petch b- a clarification I-D on informational track + an I-D updating PCEP on standard track (possibly progressing at different paces)? Please share your feedback using

Re: [Pce] WG Adoption of draft-li-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-07

2022-09-26 Thread tom petch
and a reference to an I-D is now a reference to an RFC (probably enforced by tools) but updated? A stretch - all the usual things that are wrong with YANG modules are still wrong so my concern that we may get stuck, waiting but I agree with adoption, we have to press on and hope:-( Tom Petch Authors

Re: [Pce] WG Adoption of draft-li-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-07

2022-09-08 Thread tom petch
Reference and one without which the pcep I-D cannot work; this is not just a question of nice to have information but will it work at all which is why, having slept on it, I decided to oppose so that others can see where we are heading! Tom Petch - SR Policy YANG expired 1 year ago

Re: [Pce] WG Adoption of draft-li-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-07

2022-09-08 Thread tom petch
Thinking some more ... From: Pce on behalf of tom petch Sent: 07 September 2022 12:32 From: Pce on behalf of Dhruv Dhody Sent: 02 September 2022 10:09 Hi WG, This email begins the WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-07. https

Re: [Pce] WG Adoption of draft-li-pce-pcep-srv6-yang-07

2022-09-07 Thread tom petch
-routing-ipv6 points to RFC8491 but that only sets up an IANA registry which contains many more entries so I think the reference has to be to the IANA registry. 'Add NAI' looks like an unresolved issue Tom Petch Please respond by Monday 19th Sept 2022. Please be more vocal during WG polls

Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-17.txt

2022-01-25 Thread tom petch
-address-no-zone. Gosh, they are the ones that I have been reviewing, along with dhcp etc - what a coincidence:-) Tom Petch That said, "ip-address-no-zone" is the right thing to do and I have updated it in the latest version. https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-pc

[Pce] Modelling Keepalive Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-16.txt

2022-01-06 Thread tom petch
right, then I will propose some changes such as making 'enabled' a presence container with min and max in it and with a constraint max GTE min.. I have yet to look at the other negotiated values but expect that something similar will apply. If not ? Tom Petch

Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-16.txt

2022-01-05 Thread tom petch
d/ in several places case auth-tls what if the role is both client and server? RPC might benefit from a NACM default deny all 9.2 /tools/datatracker/ TLP is out of date The modelling of Keepalive confuses me - I need to check the RFC and the MIB and come back to you Tom Petch On Thu, Mar 11,

Re: [Pce] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-05

2021-08-10 Thread tom petch
. that key names do not reveal sensitive information about the network. Tom Petch Thanks, Yaron On 8/10/21, 15:01, "Qin Wu" wrote: Yaron: Thank for clarification. I agree to keep the last sentence in the second paragraph of section 7 as is. But I prefer to add th

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-07 (and Code Point Allocation)

2021-04-01 Thread tom petch
From: julien.meu...@orange.com Sent: 30 March 2021 11:47 To: tom petch Cc: pce@ietf.org; adr...@olddog.co.uk; draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-07 (and Code Point Allocation) Hi Tom, What really matters for the IANA

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-07 (and Code Point Allocation)

2021-03-27 Thread tom petch
an unsatisfactory term, overloaded with semantics. Elsewhere you use 'binding value ' and I see no reason not to use that throughout with an explanation up front as to what it means. Tom Petch Respect, Cheng -Original Message- From: Pce [mailto:pce-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of tom petch Sent

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-07 (and Code Point Allocation)

2021-03-27 Thread tom petch
ver it is, gets embedded in IANA, I said that the IANA early allocation should not proceed until this is resolved, but you may not take it that far. Tom Petch --- Abstract This document proposes an approach for reporting binding label/SID to Path Computation Element (PCE) for supporting PCE-based

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-07 (and Code Point Allocation)

2021-03-22 Thread tom petch
orm. Perhaps 'Unable to amend the.. 'Unable to allocate a.. And along with TBD2 and TBD6, as in my separate e-mail, I find 'Binding label/SID' clumsy and would prefer a replacement such as 'Binding value' Tom Petch Tha

Re: [Pce] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pce-binding-label-sid-07 (and Code Point Allocation)

2021-03-22 Thread tom petch
or an IPv6 SID as appropriate' Tom Petch Moreover, we have received a request from the authors for a code point allocation to support interoperability testing. RFC 7120 requires to meet the following criteria to proceed: b. The format, semantics, processing, and other rules related to handling

Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-16.txt

2021-03-11 Thread tom petch
avg clearer for this and the other two times counters do they need a discontinuity date and time? leaf num-keepalive-sent { elsewhere keep-alive is hyphenated in YANG leaf names 5.2 /capcabilities/capabilities There are parts of PCE I have not looked at previously and so plan to look at the

Re: [Pce] Early code point allocation for draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp

2021-02-22 Thread tom petch
From: Pce on behalf of tom petch Sent: 20 February 2021 12:33 From: Pce on behalf of tom petch Sent: 19 February 2021 12:30 From: julien.meu...@orange.com Sent: 18 February 2021 10:35 Hi Tom, Thank you for your valuable feedback. The more I look, the less I like it. This I-D asks

Re: [Pce] Early code point allocation for draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp

2021-02-20 Thread tom petch
From: Pce on behalf of tom petch Sent: 19 February 2021 12:30 To: julien.meu...@orange.com Cc: pce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Pce] Early code point allocation for draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp From: julien.meu...@orange.com Sent: 18 February 2021 10:35 Hi Tom, Thank you for your

Re: [Pce] Early code point allocation for draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp

2021-02-19 Thread tom petch
the first is processed and subsequent ones are silently discarded. A Normative Reference to an unadopted I-D that expires next week is not a good look:-) Like I said, the word that came to my mind was 'sloppy':-( Tom Petch Thanks, Dhruv & Julien On 17/02/2021 12:46, tom petch wrote: >

Re: [Pce] Early code point allocation for draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp

2021-02-17 Thread tom petch
From: Dhruv Dhody Sent: 07 February 2021 04:36 Hi Tom, WG, On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 5:36 PM tom petch wrote: > > From: Pce on behalf of julien.meu...@orange.com > > Sent: 01 February 2021 10:54 > > Hi WG, > > We have received a request from the authors of > dra

Re: [Pce] Early code point allocation for draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp

2021-02-06 Thread tom petch
; to which of these does the early allocation request apply? Tom Petch RFC 7120 requires to meet the following criteria to proceed: b. The format, semantics, processing, and other rules related to handling the protocol entities defined by the code points (henceforth called "specifications&q

[Pce] Matters arising was Re: IETF 109 PCE WG minutes

2020-11-23 Thread tom petch
, is PCE a routing protocol? There are conventions for routing protocols such as OSPF about defining an identity and where to augment which this does not follow suggesting that it does not qualify. Tom Petch Hi WG, Please find the minutes for the PCE WG session - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc

Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12.txt

2019-11-12 Thread tom petch
go. Otherwise, I'm unaware of anyone stating a preference. For myself, I only hope to achieve a good result. " Keep waiting:-( Tom Petch Thanks! Dhruv > -Original Message- > From: Pce [mailto:pce-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of tom petch > Sent: 12 November 2019 17:46 >

Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-12.txt

2019-11-12 Thread tom petch
Dhruv I note that -13 has appeared and wondered what significance I should read into this. Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "Dhruv Dhody" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 1:14 PM > Hi WG, > > This update includes - > > * Pending issues as

Re: [Pce] [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08

2019-03-27 Thread tom petch
really been considered. Since it is statistics, I imagine that there are no sensitive objects there, in which case I would add a sentence to spell that out. And something new /Segement Routing /Segment Routing / Tom Petch On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 18:34, tom petch wrote: > Dhruv > > I

Re: [Pce] [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08

2019-03-26 Thread tom petch
. It is a MUST not a SHOULD so I believe that you must bring those prefixes in line for key-chain, tls-client, tls-server. YANG allows it, YANG guidelines does not. Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "Dhruv Dhody" Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:38 PM Hi Martin, The new

Re: [Pce] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-08

2019-03-26 Thread tom petch
al) The RFC Editor is ok, likes even, all the notes thereon to appear once at the start of the I-D. So my previous comment was that using for multiple I-Ds was confusing but I meant to use , with an RFC Editor Note for each, and not to use the I-D name. HTH Tom Petch - Original M

Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09.txt

2018-10-18 Thread tom petch
unity."; Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "Dhruv Dhody" Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:05 AM Hi Tom, > > > > The draft does not have any other pending actions. > > Mmm why can I not resist the challenge? > [[Dhruv Dhody]] I am glad you took

Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang-09.txt

2018-10-16 Thread tom petch
09 5088 5089 5520 5541 5557 6536 8232 8306 while 8253 is there but Informative; my preference is for such references to be Normative. A common practice is to have a section just prior to the module proper which gives references to all the RFC which the module references, which obviates the appearance of warni