[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1563095 ] bug in iemlib's for++

2006-09-26 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1563095, was opened at 2006-09-21 12:13 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by nobody You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=1563095group_id=55736 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be very nice to have FFTW in Pd, its really much much faster. .hc On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:38 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: Well, I started coding for fftw-2, then found out it had already been replaced with fft-3, then decided that perhaps I should just

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread carmen
and that is the question: why do we necessarily need the fftw based fft-objects in plain pd and cannot use externals? so the only drawback is see is: the objects are called [fftw~] instead of [fft~]; but lo and behold, i vaguely remembered krzysztof magic in cyclone, where a newly

[PD-dev] corelibs, build system

2006-09-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
corelibs is currently broken due to a renaming of pd/src/d_mayer_fft.c to pd/src/d_fft_mayer.c while i updated the corelibs/generate.sh script to handle this, it still does not really work with the autobuild-system. the reason for this is (imo) the very complicated stacking of Makefiles

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: Yes indeed. I'm thinking of automatically having new classes shadow old ones, so that anything in Pd could simpy be externed over. Not sure of all the long-term ramifications, but I like the idea. Namespaces, anyone? ;) I think,

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: and that is the question: why do we necessarily need the fftw based fft-objects in plain pd and cannot use externals? The main reason for not doing so is that it doesn't allow you to override the uses of FFT that are made in other Pd externals

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I should add, the next key step is to remove as many classes as possible from the root namespace (i.e. compiled into Pd). For many, it would be trivial to do, just compile them as individual objects in a libdir. I've already done this for x_list.c, x_net.c, and a couple others. Things

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Using loading order will have similar problems whether you use the first loaded or the last loaded. And changing the order of precedence will have lots of unintended consequences. Modern programming languages use namespaces (C++, Python, Java, SmallTalk, etc). Namespaces are a much

Re: [PD-dev] corelibs, build system

2006-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
IOhannes, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! ASK BEFORE YOU MESS WITH SOMEONE ELSE'S STUFF!!! This is one of the most basic and fundamental rules of working together, and you are violating this rule again and again, though we ask you not to! That is why we have this list.

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I should add, the next key step is to remove as many classes as possible from the root namespace (i.e. compiled into Pd). IMO this step should wait until we have the equivalent to Python's from pdcore import * or

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Tim Blechmann
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 23:21 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: I should add, the next key step is to remove as many classes as possible from the root namespace (i.e. compiled into Pd). IMO this step should wait until we have the equivalent to Python's from pdcore import * or C++'s using

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 26, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I should add, the next key step is to remove as many classes as possible from the root namespace (i.e. compiled into Pd). IMO this step should wait until we have

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Tim Blechmann hat gesagt: // Tim Blechmann wrote: i can think of two ways to implement a namespace: - a property of the canvas - a |using| or |import| object the first solution would be a contrary to pd's design principle (as written by miller in the pd docs, ยง2.6.2. persistence of

[PD-dev] problems compiling pd-devel-0.39

2006-09-26 Thread davide
hi, I'm trying to compile pd-devel-0.39 on a FC5+ccrma laptop but I get this error: [...] gcc -O3 -mfpmath=sse -mmmx -msse -fprefetch-loop-arrays -DPD -DDL_OPEN -DHAVE_LIBFFTW3F -DNEWHASH -DLOCKFREE -DPABLIO -DUNISTD -DUNIX -DUSEAPI_OSS -DPA_LITTLE_ENDIAN -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\/usr/local\

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 12:15:21AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Tim Blechmann hat gesagt: // Tim Blechmann wrote: i can think of two ways to implement a namespace: - a property of the canvas - a |using| or |import| object the first solution would be a contrary to pd's design

Re: [PD-dev] missing file from pd-MAIN and fftw version

2006-09-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Miller Puckette wrote: Yes indeed. I'm thinking of automatically having new classes shadow old ones, so that anything in Pd could simpy be externed over. Not sure of all the long-term ramifications, but I like the idea. How about having several objectmakers with