Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-14 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
@bernardo. you should compare also how many employees does red hat have and canonical. and also red hat wasnt always the saint you think. people like ubuntu because are tired to config things everytime. so even if they contribute less i dont care. its open source. the code is there Em 2010/09/14

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-14 Thread Pedro Lopes
That validates my statement to: do not have the latest version :) Do you win anything in using Lucid versus Karmic? Karmic has rt, it works like a charm, I can put jack with a latency of 9ms with H4 audio as USB audio card (no drivers no install) and no xruns - running nicely. If I do not use -rt

[PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread jm jones
Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last time, I dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I installed the 32 bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for 10.04 available? And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices? And what about distros?

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Pedro Lopes
Ubuntu can use xfce (Xubuntu by default or *apt*-*get install xfce4, **anyway its always up to you :)* **Personally, I have Ubuntu Studio 64 bits with pd-extended, but due to isues with some 64b stuff (firewire drivers and video tracking software) I tend to use Ubuntu 32b. I have kde, xfce and

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread jm jones
2010/9/13 Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt: Ubuntu can use xfce (Xubuntu by default or apt-get install xfce4, anyway its always up to you :) Personally, I have Ubuntu Studio 64 bits with pd-extended, but due to isues with some 64b stuff (firewire drivers and video tracking software) I tend

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread András Murányi
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones juan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last time, I dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I installed the 32 bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for 10.04 available? And

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Bernardo Barros
I prefer KDE for desktop everyday usage. When I need more performance I use OpenBox. It is really minimal and customizable with an clean autostart script where you can tell what you want. I don't really like Xcfe because it compromises the desktop and it is not as minimal as OpenBox. It is good

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread András Murányi
Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right? 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try. 2010/9/13 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones juan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Bernardo Barros
yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family I like it 2010/9/13 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com: Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right? 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try.

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread András Murányi
Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country sometimes... :o) I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does CCRMA have these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc... 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Bernardo Barros
Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your repos. 2010/9/13 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com: Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country sometimes... :o) I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does CCRMA have these? Like some

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread András Murányi
Ahh, livna You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to Ubuntu, what do I tall them when i go back? :o) I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe that's the way forward. Thanks, Andras 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com Then

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Pedro Lopes
Sorry just double checking something András... there's no rt kernel for 64 bits Ubuntu? (or you're saying for the lucid lynx?) Cause karmic koala has rt, I have Ubuntu Studio 64 bits with rt [1] [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/9.10release_notes 2010/9/13 András Murányi

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your own kernel. Try that before switching :) .hc On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote: Ahh, livna You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to Ubuntu, what do I tall them when i go

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Bernardo Barros
just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu? 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your own kernel.  Try that before switching :) .hc On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote: Ahh, livna You know,

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Media apps seem to be much better supported in Debian/Ubuntu than in Fedora. That's my two bits. .hc On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu? 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: The Debian tools make it quite

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread András Murányi
Nope. It's gone. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1388451 Andras 2010/9/13 Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt Sorry just double checking something András... there's no rt kernel for 64 bits Ubuntu? (or you're saying for the lucid lynx?) Cause karmic koala has rt, I have Ubuntu

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread András Murányi
Well, i never really used Fedora... I used RH back then, and when i was to get back to Linux after XP, I have evaluated many distros, and Ubuntu seemed kinda promising. Why did it seem promising to me? - large user base - entirely non-for-profit - targeted the desktop more definitely than some

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Bernardo Barros
come'on, I hate brown... :-) One thing is that Canonical do much much less to Linux kernel development then RedHat. They don't give back :-( 2010/9/13 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com: Well, i never really used Fedora... I used RH back then, and when i was to get back to Linux after XP, I

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Canonical does do a lot of GNOME development tho, from what I've heard. They do contribute a lot of code, but in different areas. But it would be interesting to see how the various GNU/Linux companies compare in terms of how much code they contribute. .hc On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:54 PM,

Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits

2010-09-13 Thread Bernardo Barros
I think RedHat, Novell, IBM, Google are some of the institutions that send more patches to the kernel. There are a lot of independent and anonymous guys too. Maybe people at University? I don't know. BUT Canonical are not one of those companies. Maybe for GNOME. But I think the most exciting