Re: [PD] Pd-Extended-0.38.4 devices-audio settings

2007-02-21 Thread Anders Friberg
I had similar problems in winXP. I did the same thing ie going back from extended 0.39 to 0.38 and after that there is no sound until I select the ASIO input panel on the menu. If the sound card is not installed it will report (correctly) that there is no ASIO on the machine. After that it is

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread David Powers
Wow, I heard of fftease before, but I had never actually looked carefully at it. That looks incredibly promising, thanks so much! I should probably start to look seriously at VASP too - I'm really starting to get more interested in PD for non-realtime sound design anyway, as opposed to a realtime

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Kevin McCoy
David, I sympathize - what about the fftease package? I don't know anything about it but it may have something like you described if I remember correctly. I was really screwed on understanding FFT until I looked at the VASP examples and then it made a little sense. The wonderful thing about Pd

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, David Powers hat gesagt: // David Powers wrote: I wish there was an fft for dumbies ... or, I guess, some kind of fft black boxes to play with, where you don't need to understand the math. Frank's recent post completely lost me, Now I'm disappointed ... though given a bit of study I

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Kevin McCoy
Frank, OK I was able to look at this sooner than I expected (can't sleep!). Thank you *so* much. It makes perfect sense now!! Even though I don't understand their basis completely, those formulas for amp/phase really help. I can't wait to do some insane stuff, and of course I will post my

[PD] FFTease (was: is this a spectral gate?)

2007-02-21 Thread Eric Lyon
I sympathize - what about the fftease package? I don't know anything about it but it may have something like you described if I remember correctly. I was really screwed on understanding FFT until I looked at the VASP examples and then it made a little sense. The wonderful thing about Pd

[PD] [Gem]: [pix_texture] doesn't work

2007-02-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
hello all after not touching a working gem-compile for a few weeks now, i tried Gem again for a course in my study. but it seems. it doesn't work correctly anymore. whenever i have a patch open with a [pix_texture] in the render-chain and i try then to create the the gem-window

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Kevin McCoy hat gesagt: // Kevin McCoy wrote: Let's do as Kyle suggested and get this on the community site somewhere maybe with some images of arrays to clarify? Hm, seems my mail from yesterday git lost: I already put it on my site here: http://footils.org/cms/show/60 including some

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Michal Seta
fftease covers most popular spectral manipulation goodies. Originally by Eric Lyon and ported to pd by Thomas Grill, IIRC. ./MiS David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wish there was an fft for dumbies ... or, I guess, some kind of fft black boxes to play with, where you don't need to

[PD] [PD-announce] Reminder/Rappel::Pure Data Convention '07/Congrès PureData '07 - Call for Proposals

2007-02-21 Thread darsha hewitt
[VERSION FRANÇAISE CI-DESSOUS] L'oeuvre ouverte|PureData Convention '07 - Call for Proposals * August 21st-26th, 2007, Montréal Canada * Deadline for artworks/performances and workshops: February 28th 2007 * Deadline for papers: March 31st 2007 http://convention.puredata.org The PureData

[PD] Difference in behavior between OS X and Linux (Linux is Broken)

2007-02-21 Thread David F. Place
Dear Pd Pundits, I was struggling to make a patch work which does a kind of operation which is trivial in every other programming language ever invented. (patch attached) I could not get it to work. Exasperated, I decided to call on your kind help. In order to send the email, I

Re: [PD] [Gem]: [pix_texture] doesn't work

2007-02-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi Roman Haefeli wrote: my version of gem is: GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs GEM: compiled: Nov 30 2006 so you have not changed Gem but you have updated your driver and now it doesn't work any more? i am on ubuntu dapper with the fglrx-driver from the ubuntu-repository. it worked in earlier days

[PD] msd broken

2007-02-21 Thread marius schebella
hi list, I wonder if this is an OSX problem, but my msd2D and msd3D objects are not working (see previour posts). compared to pmpd, which physical modelling object should I give the favour? (default answer: msd) are there other examples for msd? marius.

[PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread David F. Place
Since my last message morphed from a plea for help to a bug report, I guess I should give the relevant info. Mac OS X 10.4.8 / Pd 0.39-2 Fedora 4 / Pd 0.39-2 --o---o-o-o---o-o-o--- David F. Place mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at

[PD] real-time sonogram

2007-02-21 Thread Florian Grond
Dear list, I'm looking for something like a real-time sonogram in pd in combination with GEM on windows XP. The idea would bee to write into a texture buffer a new line every time a audio vector is analyzed and then to cycle through the buffer in some sort of fifo mode. Ideally the content of the

Re: [PD] Using a Wind Controller with PD

2007-02-21 Thread Malte Steiner
Cool! I have some patches that I would like to create an interface with a WX5. Do you have anything like a prototype that you use to build these things? I have to dig and can send it to you later but its not difficult nor complex. The libsensor is build in the mouthpiece and can be played

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Malte Steiner
David Powers wrote: I wish there was an fft for dumbies ... or, I guess, some kind of fft black boxes to play with, I started my fftadventure this way, using the phase vocoder examples and embed them into my patches. I think meanwhile there is a pvoc object out to simplify things but didnt

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread Miller Puckette
So, (on Fedora 2) what I get is that the five tables (assuming I opened them before whacking the 440 button, e.g.) have all their points fly far above the visible region of the window. The bug I then see is the long-standing one, which is that for teh life of me I can't figure out how to get the

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tcl/tk 8.5, antialising, and large fonts lead to huge cpu overhead bug?

2007-02-21 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
You're right, it definitely shouldn't be that bad. Have you tried this same test on different platforms, or with different versions of Tcl/Tk? (I am guessing you are on Windows, which I don't use). I Nope. I am on a Linux box (not literally at this very moment, but I use PD exclusively on

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tcl/tk 8.5, antialising, and large fonts lead to huge cpu overhead bug?

2007-02-21 Thread Miller Puckette
Is there a way to disable proportional fonts? THat might be all we need... cheers M On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 09:33:54AM -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: You're right, it definitely shouldn't be that bad. Have you tried this same test on different platforms, or with different versions of

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread David Powers
This looks sweet, thanks Frank! Hoping to have a play with this as soon as I get to do some actual music making later this week. By the way, I thought I'd clarify what I meant with the example of Plogue Bidule. The website invites one to: Transform audio in the spectral domain, with Bidule's FFT

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread David F. Place
Alas, the bug is different. If you open the properties window of the table and adjust the y range to be from 1000 to 0. You will get over that problem. Then you'll be able to see that only half the table entries are updated. Also, the wrong values are in the slots -- off by one.

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm, now that, on Fedora 2 at least, I can't reproduce. I think I was unable to reproduce that on my Fedora 6 machine either when I tried that, but will try it again when I can... cheers Miller On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 01:43:35PM -0500, David F. Place wrote: Alas, the bug is different. If you

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
David F. Place wrote: Alas, the bug is different. If you open the properties window of the table and adjust the y range to be from 1000 to 0. You will get so for simplicity i suggest you add the attached patch to yours. this should properly initialize your table-ranges. over that

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread David Powers
On 2/21/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that I can also get the freq and amplitude info from PD's fft, once I'm awake enough to follow your math anyway! But I'm wondering where the phase comes in exactly - in Plogue I'm assuming the phases are somehow calculated

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i cannot reproduce this. oh, and i forgot: i am on debian(etch/sid) on an amd64 in i386 mode are you by chance running a 64bit OS? (i guess FC3 does not support x86_64 but who knows...) does the problem still exist with pd-0.40? pd-0.41? fmga.sdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread jared
This looks sweet, thanks Frank! Hoping to have a play with this as soon as I get to do some actual music making later this week Hey guys, sorry I arrived a little late to the thread Frank, did you post an example of the FFT patch that you explained? If so, would you mind posting it

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: So, (on Fedora 2) what I get is that the five tables (assuming I opened them before whacking the 440 button, e.g.) have all their points fly far above the visible region of the window. The bug I then see is the long-standing one,

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
jared wrote: Hey guys, sorry I arrived a little late to the thread Frank, did you post an example of the FFT patch that you explained? If so, would you mind posting it again? J all postings are archived at http://lists.puredata.info there you can search what people have

Re: [PD] Pd-Extended-0.38.4 devices-audio settings

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Henry
wait a minute does that make any sense at all? Post-re-install, I see no .pdsettings file at all for pd 0.38? Was it all in my head? Chuck On 2/21/07, Charles Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Anders, On linux, I just deleted .pdsettings in my home directory and ran the installer a

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 20:19 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i cannot reproduce this. oh, and i forgot: i am on debian(etch/sid) on an amd64 in i386 mode are you by chance running a 64bit OS? (i guess FC3 does not support x86_64 but who knows...)

Re: [PD] Pd-Extended-0.38.4 devices-audio settings

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Henry
Thanks, Anders, On linux, I just deleted .pdsettings in my home directory and ran the installer a second time. Works just great! Chuck On 2/21/07, Anders Friberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had similar problems in winXP. I did the same thing ie going back from extended 0.39 to 0.38 and after

Re: [PD] newbie growing pains...

2007-02-21 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
That's very sound advice, Darek! I followed(/am following) a very similar trajectory. What I'd add to that: Above all, don't think that you need to only use Pd for everything. It's a great tool, but can bog you down from truly creating things if you are stuck reinventing the wheel every time you

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread jared
Great, thanks. I wasn't sure if it was just a quick patch that he posted via the list. -Original Message- From: IOhannes m zmoelnig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:38 PM To: jared Cc: 'David Powers'; pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] is this a spectral

Re: [PD] Pd-Extended-0.38.4 devices-audio settings

2007-02-21 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Wait a minute...what's .pdsettings? I'll have to wait until I'm at home to check, but does it let you save your midi/audio i/o preferences? I've been itching for that ability. ~Kyle On 2/21/07, Charles Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Anders, On linux, I just deleted .pdsettings in my

Re: [PD] Pd-Extended-0.38.4 devices-audio settings

2007-02-21 Thread Anders Friberg
I wish it was that simple! On winXP you have to go into registry and delete the relevant pd items there using the regeditor. The problem is that I don't really know how the registry works so I try to avoid it as long as I can. /Anders Charles Henry wrote: Thanks, Anders, On linux, I just

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, jared hat gesagt: // jared wrote: This looks sweet, thanks Frank! Hoping to have a play with this as soon as I get to do some actual music making later this week Hey guys, sorry I arrived a little late to the thread Frank, did you post an example of the FFT patch that you

Re: [PD] real-time sonogram

2007-02-21 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
There was some talk of this last year. I think that this is the thread to follow: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-08/041151.html I hope this helps! ~Kyle On 2/21/07, Florian Grond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I'm looking for something like a real-time sonogram in pd

Re: [PD] infinite composing, aleph II

2007-02-21 Thread threen
oohhh... how cherish of her/them. seems like the degree of academic squareness is beginning to mellow out. its like a slight mental antialiasing between 0's and 1's. i will only come if she is insanely hot =) On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:40:28 +, Eric Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I asked the

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, David Powers hat gesagt: // David Powers wrote: This looks sweet, thanks Frank! Hoping to have a play with this as soon as I get to do some actual music making later this week. By the way, I thought I'd clarify what I meant with the example of Plogue Bidule. The website invites one to:

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread David F. Place
On Feb 21, 2007, at 2:19 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: are you by chance running a 64bit OS? (i guess FC3 does not support x86_64 but who knows...) Yes, I am running a 64bit OS. I'll try upgrading to 0.41 too. --o---o-o-o---o-o-o--- David F. Place mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread David F. Place
On Feb 21, 2007, at 2:06 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: - your x-bounds seem to be wrong: you have 12 values, with x- coordinates 0..11; therefore the x-bounds should be 0..11 too, instead of 0..12 (which will give you another empty slot; probably this is what you mean by not getting

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
David F. Place wrote: On Feb 21, 2007, at 2:19 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: are you by chance running a 64bit OS? (i guess FC3 does not support x86_64 but who knows...) Yes, I am running a 64bit OS. I'll try upgrading to 0.41 too. this explains everything! (and tells us, how good it

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread David Powers
On 2/21/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fiddle works a bit differently, but it will not give enough information to make a clean resynthesis. Remember: An FFT on a blocksize of 1024 will give you 1024/2 = 512 resynthesis channels, or 512 virtual oscillators. fiddle~ basically

[PD] fluid~ and faster key velocities

2007-02-21 Thread Andres Ferrari
hello, when i use fluid~ with 5 notes chord and i increase key velocity under 60 ms(with repeated chord)my cpu is saturated. is problem of my ram, my cpu or fluid~ don't work fine with super fast rhythm??? osx 10.4 1.33mh 768 ram pd 0.38 thanks a lot. Andrés Ferrari G.

Re: [PD] System Versions for previous message.

2007-02-21 Thread David F. Place
On Feb 21, 2007, at 5:21 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: this explains everything! (and tells us, how good it is to tell the architecture of your system - esp. when it is not yet mainstream) your problem has only been fixed in 0.41 confirm Confirmed! Thanks for your help.

[PD] big mistake.....in my previous mail

2007-02-21 Thread Andres Ferrari
sorry for my cable crossing... I meant NOTE DURATION...NOT KEY VELOCITY!! in my previous mail. thanks again. Andrés Ferrari G. http://puredata.org/Members/anfex __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis!

Re: [PD] Difference in behavior between OS X and Linux (Linux is Broken)

2007-02-21 Thread Michal Seta
I'm on linux. The only problem that I saw with the patch was that the tables' y values did not accomodate the values you were trying to write (so they were not seen on screen). Changing the y range to 0 to 1000 shows everything just fine (and the table gets filled completely). ./MiS David F.

Re: [PD] msd broken

2007-02-21 Thread Thomas Grill
Oh, i forgot to say that i uploaded new OSX versions of msd for PD and Max to http://g.org/ext/beta Having a short look over the msd source code it seems that there are many occasions of unchecked inputs, so that sending a symbol argument to a method expecting a float can crash the

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Josh Steiner
Frank Barknecht wrote: So basically, in most of the simple fft software, they split the signal into freq and amplitude. You can see in the screenshot this is represented by yellow and orange connectors, and they have specific objects so you can play with a whole bunch of crazy transformations

[PD] -dynamiclib causes name clashes, was: Re: msd broken

2007-02-21 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi Marius, I wonder if this is an OSX problem, but my msd2D and msd3D objects are not working (see previour posts). this is almost certainly caused by a conflict of an existing external using an older version of flext. I hope that i now adjusted the flext build system in a way that this

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 12:54:21PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: This means, that resynthesizing this signal at SR=48000 would be similar to using oscillators like this: [osc~ 0] | [*~ 4.4602] [osc~ 6000] | [*~ 1.1871] [osc~ 12000] | [*~ 0.62254] [osc~

Re: [PD] is this a spectral gate?

2007-02-21 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 08:11:01PM -0600, Kevin McCoy wrote: osc~'s right inlet only takes data, if I'm correct. Exactly. It takes a message to set the phase, if I remember correctly. Wait, I'm wrong. It only resets the phase according to the help file. I wonder how hard it would be to make the

[PD] PD Workshop files

2007-02-21 Thread jared
Hello all, I'm in the middle of downloading the PD Workshop files from: https://www.cs.tcd.ie/~wardn1/PD_workshop/ Is there, by chance, a zip file floating around that has all of the contents of this workshop? I'm 30 minutes into downloading them manually and I've only finished the 'control'

[PD] a couple of questions

2007-02-21 Thread jared
Hello all, I've just downloaded fluid~pd_darwin .rar file. It contains two files: fluid~help.pd and fluid~.pd_darwin. What kind of file is the .pd Darwin? Where should I put it? What about the fluid help file? Do I put it here?-- pd\doc\5.reference I'm not sure where to put the help files