Hallo,
Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
In keeping with the FLOSSmanuals methodology, we need a story to tell
when introducing lists. I have the intro done, but now we need a story
(i.e. developing an example program). I was thinking that a story
hi,
@iohannes: thanks for the hint: i also installed automake and autoconf
@jonathan: see http://www.mingw.org/wiki/MSYS
g.
IOhannes m zmoelnig:
Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Yes, I have msys installed.
Would it make a difference where pd is installed?
no not at all.
the makefile uses filter and
This has always confused me, and even in my book I took a simplified
approach to explaining lists.
It is definitely worth working hard on this passage
to choose clear and agreed words.
a.
Hallo,
Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
In keeping with the
This is all well and good, but no new Pd user is going to read all this,
let alone know what to do with it ;-)
For the FLOSS Manuals book, I've asked people to be less theoretical and
more concentrated on real life examples which do real life things,
rather than extended lists of taxonomies.
Hallo,
Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote:
This is all well and good, but no new Pd user is going to read all this,
let alone know what to do with it ;-)
It was more for Andy. ;)
For the FLOSS book I would just silently use the term list-message whenever you
talk about
Hallo,
why is it, that to be able to simply read the help file for
center_point in mapping I have to add four (4!) paths to my .pdrc
or the command line?
Here are the paths I need to set and their reasons:
1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point] isn't found
2) SVN/externals/mapping - to
David F. Place wrote:
Hello:
I have been using Pd quite happily under linux. Suddenly it will not
start at all. This is the error message I get:
what do you mean by all of a sudden?
after a Pd-upgrade? after a system-upgrade? after a hardware upgrade?
after playing around with some
On 06/04/2009, at 8.49, Frank Barknecht wrote:
I would also strongly recommend to use a consistent terminology for
lists that
are not lists in the Pd sense: I would call them meta-messages just
like Miller
does, and if there's ambiguity the manual should call proper lists
list-messages.
Hallo,
Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
So is it a bug that [20 foo(--[print] posts 20 foo instead of list 20 foo?
Message-rule #1: Never believe anything [print] prints.
Message-rule #2: messages starting with a number don't need any other selector
like list or float,
Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
So is it a bug that [20 foo(--[print] posts 20 foo instead of list 20 foo?
no it's a feature to not confuse the noob (at the cost of confusing
post-noobs)
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Hallo,
Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote:
On 06/04/2009, at 8.49, Frank Barknecht wrote:
I would also strongly recommend to use a consistent terminology for
lists that
are not lists in the Pd sense: I would call them meta-messages just
like Miller
does, and if there's
So is it a bug that [20 foo(--[print] posts 20 foo instead of list 20 foo?
-Jonathan
--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org
Subject: Re: [PD] a story for Lists
To: pd list pd-list@iem.at
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 10:54 AM
Thanks Frank. This was a question which came up in discussion between
Hans and I yesterday, which was on the verge of getting very confusing!
I think this suggestion might help Hans with his writing.
best!
Derek
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote:
Hallo,
padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk hat gesagt: // padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote:
This has always confused me, and even in my book I took a simplified
approach to explaining lists.
It is definitely worth working hard on this passage
to choose clear and agreed words.
I think, the main
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
So a library like 'audiomath' would then have
audiomath/libaudiomath.pd_linux. Normally,
audiomath/libaudiomath.pd_linux would only include shared code, but for
this case, it would also include the ~ class, etc.
i guess you meant to name it either
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:27:07PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Chris McCormick wrote:
Then I'd like the DSP stuff not to be a special case, but rather a
library you can import.
It's not much of a feature. It might be a sign of a more modular design,
but what
Amazingly, it just started working again. I think a likely explanation
is that my soundcard got into a bizarre state and needed to be power
cycled. Thanks for your help and sorry for the bother.
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:33 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
David F. Place wrote:
Hello:
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point] isn't found
2) SVN/externals/mapping - to find [mapping/reverse] and
[mapping/disjoin]
These two were meant to have reversed reasons.
Ciao
--
Frank
Martin Peach wrote:
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Martin Peach wrote:
The shell's [] (/usr/bin/test) also has -gt,-lt,-ge,-le,-eq,-ne,
which it uses for numeric comparisons, whereas it uses
,,=,=,==,!= for string comparisons. It also needs both by design.
[snip]
Oh I see. But
I'm writing a tutorial on using sinesum to generate wavetables for the
FLOSS Manual. In typical fashion, the current all_about_arrays
documentation merely (lazily?) directs users to Google partials to
find out how to build the waveforms. I'd like to point to specific
resource. So, is there any
Hi Mathieu, Hi all
after all searchung the papers, reading about pins and ESC/P, i got the
printer now, so i could start to test. and it could be parallel, usb or
serial. I would prefer serial, but if there are better solutions?
could you give me a glue how to start? i could not find out how
I'm thinking something like the Applet here:
http://www.eecircle.com/applets/001/001.html
but maybe with more possible waveforms.
D.
Derek Holzer wrote:
I'm writing a tutorial on using sinesum to generate wavetables for the
FLOSS Manual. In typical fashion, the current all_about_arrays
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
Martin Peach wrote:
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Martin Peach wrote:
The shell's [] (/usr/bin/test) also has -gt,-lt,-ge,-le,-eq,-ne,
which it uses for numeric comparisons, whereas it uses
,,=,=,==,!= for string comparisons. It also needs both by
bra...@subnet.at wrote:
Hi Mathieu, Hi all
after all searchung the papers, reading about pins and ESC/P, i got the
printer now, so i could start to test. and it could be parallel, usb or
serial. I would prefer serial, but if there are better solutions?
could you give me a glue how to
I think that part makes sense. I think this is the bug:
[list 20 foo(
|
[print]
This prints: 20 foo it should print list 20 foo
.hc
On Apr 6, 2009, at 5:30 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
So is it a bug that [20 foo(--[print] posts 20 foo instead of
list 20 foo?
-Jonathan
--- On Mon,
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:15 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote:
I'm writing a tutorial on using sinesum to generate wavetables for the
FLOSS Manual. In typical fashion, the current all_about_arrays
documentation merely (lazily?) directs users to Google partials to
find out how to build the
For this book, I think its good to avoid the confusing part
altogether, at least until much later. The lists chapter can work
with lists of numbers only. Then there is little confusion. So if
there was a good story based on lists of numbers, it would guide the
beginner thru the
Thanks Roman,
I'd love it if you could look at the Generating Waveforms and
Antialiasing chapters ion the FLOSS Manual a bit later on after I have
time to day to work on them and give me some feedback ;-)
best!
D
Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:15 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point] isn't found
2) SVN/externals/mapping - to find [mapping/reverse] and
[mapping/disjoin]
These two
Hallo,
Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point] isn't found
2) SVN/externals/mapping - to find
Hi,
I've just experimented a bug about the [keyup] object not working
correctly under Windows, in PD Vanilla 0.42-4
So I've gone to the Bug Tracker and done a search.
Guess what? Not only have I found that I already reported this bug
myself almost 2 years ago (1728414), but that THE BUG
hi,
I am trying to parse shader programs to automatically generate user
interfaces (for uniform variables). I have to differentiate between
messages like
[uniform float value1(
[uniform vec2 value2(
[something totally different(
|
[route uniform]
|
[route float vec2]
|
[symbol\
The problem
Hi Roman,
these are good, but too much complex dataflow for beginner tutorial
right now! I wrote my way around the problem a bit, have a look if you
are interested:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/GeneratingWaveforms
also here:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Martin Peach wrote:
Oh I see. But that notation is only standard in shell languages and is
not going to help someone guess the name of the object or what it does,
especially if they are not used to english.
If they are so much not used to English, then how do you justify
Hallo,
marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:
I am trying to parse shader programs to automatically generate user
interfaces (for uniform variables). I have to differentiate between
messages like
[uniform float value1(
[uniform vec2 value2(
[something totally different(
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Is value1 a number or something else, like a symbol? if it's a symbol, then
it's a literal, which translates to symbol in Pd-lingo.
you are trying to use a float-message with a symbol argument like float abc
which is, uhm, not supported, at least not in [route] or
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Oh I see. But that notation is only standard in shell languages and is
not going to help someone guess the name of the object or what it does,
especially if they are not used to
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
also at least one assembly language:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/68000_Assembly#Conditional_tests
Yeah, but if Martin thinks that shells and Perl both don't matter, then
anything lower-level won't matter (if you don't think of Pd as being
cyrille henry wrote:
marius schebella a écrit :
Hi,
I'm working on the GEM part of the FLOSS manual. got stuck with the
supported file formats of pix_image.
the help patch says *.tif, *jpg, *.png. but it seems that *.bmp and
*.gif are also supported. is this depending on the OS?
it does not
marius schebella a écrit :
Hi,
I'm working on the GEM part of the FLOSS manual. got stuck with the
supported file formats of pix_image.
the help patch says *.tif, *jpg, *.png. but it seems that *.bmp and
*.gif are also supported. is this depending on the OS?
it does not only depend on the
Hi,
I'm working on the GEM part of the FLOSS manual. got stuck with the
supported file formats of pix_image.
the help patch says *.tif, *jpg, *.png. but it seems that *.bmp and
*.gif are also supported. is this depending on the OS?
can someone confirm that all these file types are supported?
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Martin Peach wrote:
Pd is a higher level language that trades off efficiency for a more
human interface.
Yes, it's definitely more human to take a simple formula that fits in a
small space and explode it into a network of little components with long
names for the sake of
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:
I am trying to parse shader programs to automatically generate user
interfaces (for uniform variables). I have to differentiate between
messages like
[uniform float value1(
[uniform vec2 value2(
[something
Hallo,
IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Is value1 a number or something else, like a symbol? if it's a symbol, then
it's a literal, which translates to symbol in Pd-lingo.
I assumed Marius was using value1 as a placeholder.
you are
Thanks for the response. However, I am still struggling with this. I
probably need a much more basic explanation. Sorry.
I assume that the patches you've provided (greatly appreciated) collate the
data in someway in order for me to be able to unpack it? However, I'm not
sure that I even
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Chris McCormick wrote:
No, that's not at all the reason I think that a format like JSON or YAML
would be useful. It's more to do with patches being more widely and
easily parseable, mashable, etc. It's to do with interoperating with
more programs than just Pd itself. Sure,
Pd FLOSS assumes Pd Extended, so it's Quicktime on Windows and Mac.
Linux is more complicated, based on the libs it's compiled against. I'll
get Hans to send the compiler flags in a sec...
D.
cyrille henry wrote:
marius schebella a écrit :
Hi,
I'm working on the GEM part of the FLOSS
Hallo,
marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:
dunno, maybe Pd is not made for text parsing??
IMO it isn't. Can't you do the parsing somewhere else, like in a pdlua object?
Much more comfortable for text.
Ciao
--
Frank
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On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
So is it a bug that [20 foo(--[print] posts 20 foo instead of list 20 foo?
No, it's just a shortcut.
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On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 18:35 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote:
Hi Roman,
these are good, but too much complex dataflow for beginner tutorial
right now!
frankly, that is what i actually thought as well.
I wrote my way around the problem a bit, have a look if you
are interested:
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:
dunno, maybe Pd is not made for text parsing??
IMO it isn't. Can't you do the parsing somewhere else, like in a pdlua object?
Much more comfortable for text.
Ciao
good idea, will check it out. can't
yep, not very confortable.
but i was very surprised when i noticed that performing search and replace on
very big text file was almost instantaneous when made with pd, but would take
many minute with gedit.
Cyrille
Frank Barknecht a écrit :
Hallo,
marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius
Here's the result from ./configure on the Debian/lenny machine:
Result:
Target : Gem.pd_linux
Objects: Base Controls Geos Manips Nongeos
Particles Pixes openGL
Configuration:
Compiler : g++
CXXFLAGS : -g -O2 -fPIC
Hi,
the help patch sais that auto 1 will not loop the movie, but actually
it does.
someone want to comment on this?
thanks,
marius.
ps. not sure if this applies to pix_movie, too, because I don't use it
on osx.
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Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
Martin Peach wrote:
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Martin Peach wrote:
The shell's [] (/usr/bin/test) also has -gt,-lt,-ge,-le,-eq,-ne,
which it uses for numeric comparisons, whereas it uses
,,=,=,==,!= for string comparisons. It also needs both by
marius schebella wrote:
Hi,
the help patch sais that auto 1 will not loop the movie, but actually
it does.
someone want to comment on this?
it's a bug.
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Derek Holzer wrote:
Pd FLOSS assumes Pd Extended, so it's Quicktime on Windows and Mac.
no
afair, only on OSX, QuickTime is used for image reading.
on w32 you have libjpeg and libtiff support.
on linux you have ImageMagick.
the reason why quicktime is not (optionally) used on w32 is beyond my
--- On Mon, 4/6/09, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] a story for Lists
To: pd list pd-list@iem.at
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:41 AM
Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
So is it a bug that [20 foo(--[print] posts 20
foo
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