Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread simon wise
On 5 May 2007, at 5:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [classpath] == [declare -stdpath] Adds a path to the global search path. thats great! - I wasn't aware of [classpath] -- now I can stop wrangling preferences/users trying to get different paths and libraries for different versions.

Re: [PD] New to PD on Mac OSX-Output makes

2007-05-07 Thread simon wise
On 6 May 2007, at 7:11 PM, Tuomas Brock wrote: spits out these rythmic blips. So it goes blip..blip..blip etc etc etc search the archives of this list http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/ pd-list/ this exact problem, and a solution, has come up several times (but I have never experienced

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
simon wise wrote: On 5 May 2007, at 5:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [classpath] == [declare -stdpath] Adds a path to the global search path. thats great! - I wasn't aware of [classpath] -- now I can stop wrangling preferences/users trying to get different paths and libraries

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread simon wise
On 7 May 2007, at 5:08 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: so why don't you just use [declare]? apart from the fact, that [declare] has a slightly more complicated syntax and merges more or less independent functionality, it also has some advantages: e.g. it is treated specially by pd (it always

Re: [PD] ANN: [SOSCroute] is a settable OSCroute (for Frank)

2007-05-07 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Aha! So it does : ). Ah well, I enjoyed myself. Luke On 5/6/07, Jamie Bullock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Luke, On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 23:27 -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Hallo all, Here is a dynamically generated OSCroute that lets its route argument be reset by a right inlet.

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects (was: Switch and ramp and accurate timing)

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: it would be very cool, if [snapshot~] and [threshold~] (and maybe others) would provide sample accuracy as well (when triggered by [metro] Now I discovered something: Pd (at leat 0.40 up) has a [vsnapshot~] object!! It should do what the

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects (was: Switch and ramp and accurate timing)

2007-05-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 09:40 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: it would be very cool, if [snapshot~] and [threshold~] (and maybe others) would provide sample accuracy as well (when triggered by [metro] Now I discovered something: Pd

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, simon wise hat gesagt: // simon wise wrote: I hope there are plans for inclusion in the miller pd distribution soon (though a least it is fairly easy to explain how to add them, even to a novice user). [classpath] is GPL, so unless Miller plans to switch Pd to GPL (which I doubt)

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects (was: Switch and ramp and accurate timing)

2007-05-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
i made a little vsnapshot~ test patch. it seems that [vsnapshot~] is not working as expected, though it definitely gives other results than [snapshot~]. one issue might be introduced by the rounding error of floats. the other i cannot explain. vsnapshot~ seems to pick sometimes the wrong value.

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects (was: Switch and ramp and accurate timing)

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: wow, great news again how did you find out about this? it is not mentioned in the release notes. Use the source, Luke: I was considereing to code my own vsnapshot~ and looked into d_ctl.c where I found, that Miller already did it. ;)

Re: [PD] Exquisite corpse

2007-05-07 Thread hard off
my friends and i have done a few mixes liek this and the ended up great. of course i'm in. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pix_set in RGB mode

2007-05-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Nicolas Montgermont wrote: Hi list, I try to control the color of pixels using [pix_set], the object works well but there is a behavior that I want to change: when you set the color of a pixel, it is calculating a kind of interpolation with the neighbours, is it possible to plot it like a

Re: [PD] Sending data from PD to another program

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, David Powers hat gesagt: // David Powers wrote: Here you go, just use the tree abstraction and create named nodes for every event in your story! Note that the nodes are hard coded to send to master, you'd want another master receiver for your GEM abstraction to select the image

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Roman Haefeli wrote: i made a little vsnapshot~ test patch. it seems that [vsnapshot~] is not working as expected, though it definitely gives other results than [snapshot~]. i think it is working as expected but there are 2 things to bear in mind: one issue might be introduced by the

Re: [PD] Gem DL Out Of Date! - FTGL continued

2007-05-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Keep watching and testing the auto-builds, we are working on getting FTGL support working now. .hc On Apr 30, 2007, at 8:31 AM, timon wrote: Hi, I posted some q's about GEM and FTGL issues some weeks back. Cause I dont compile myself, I rely on the extended package. I couldnt find

Re: [PD] cyclone/counter bug

2007-05-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think there is a bug in the tracker, if not please file one. .hc On May 5, 2007, at 6:59 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Hi listers~ I'm trying to use cyclone/counter to manipulate video. I know all about making your own counters and such, but at this point I just want something to play my

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 12:58 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: when you send a message to [vline~] it is scheduled to the next dsp-block (sample accurateley); the last one is already done when you send a message to [vsnapshot~] it operates on the last dsp-block; the next one does not yet exist

[PD] [troute] is a multiple-argument list-settable route.

2007-05-07 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Don't bother: [sroute] is part of [list]-abs. ;) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ I guess I meant a version that could accept multiple targets a la vanilla [route] and add/subtract outlets accordingly. But, now that I've actually built it, I have

[PD] [declare]: -path seems not to be added to the searchpathes

2007-05-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi i cannot get [declare]'s -path-flag working. i tried relative pathes as well as absolute ones. e.g. i have a file: /home/roman/netpd/abs/netpd-r i made a [declare -path /home/roman/netpd/abs], then i tried to instantiate a [netpd-r], but pd -verbose prints the following pathes: tried

Re: [PD] Sending data from PD to another program

2007-05-07 Thread David Powers
I thought of something like your solution too, Frank, I'll have to give it an inspection after I get off work. As for my own solution, I decided that it could be very useful for Markov Chain / random walk type of operations, especially when they are more cyclical and NOT tree structures. For a

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread marius schebella
two side questions: 1) since computers are much faster now than in 1998, would it be possible to change the 64 sample block timing of messages to a block~ 1 and use block~ 64 only for talking to the soundcard? 2) Is it possible to get microsecond accuracy in metro? the difference between metro

Re: [PD] [declare]: -path seems not to be added to the searchpathes

2007-05-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Roman Haefeli wrote: hi i cannot get [declare]'s -path-flag working. i tried relative pathes as well as absolute ones. oh yes, i forgot: that's a problem with [declare]; it only gets executed when the patch is loaded mfg.adsr IOhanens ___

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Roman Haefeli wrote: what/where is that [vmetro] object from? it is not included in my version of pd 0.40.2. anyway, if i am not mistaken, your patch works also with [metro]. oh yes, i forgot. [vmetro] is just a [metro] replacement based on [delay] so i can use small cycles (1ms); you can

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: two side questions: 1) since computers are much faster now than in 1998, would it be possible to change the 64 sample block timing of messages to a block~ 1 and use block~ 64 only for talking to the soundcard? Messages already

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 7, 2007, at 4:58 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: simon wise wrote: On 5 May 2007, at 5:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [classpath] == [declare -stdpath] Adds a path to the global search path. thats great! - I

Re: [PD] pix_set in RGB mode

2007-05-07 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
Thanks, It works perfect! Nicolas IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : Nicolas Montgermont wrote: Hi list, I try to control the color of pixels using [pix_set], the object works well but there is a behavior that I want to change: when you set the color of a pixel, it is calculating a kind of

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 16:57 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: what/where is that [vmetro] object from? it is not included in my version of pd 0.40.2. anyway, if i am not mistaken, your patch works also with [metro]. oh yes, i forgot. [vmetro] is just a [metro]

Re: [PD] New to PD on Mac OSX-Output makes

2007-05-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 7, 2007, at 2:22 AM, simon wise wrote: On 6 May 2007, at 7:11 PM, Tuomas Brock wrote: spits out these rythmic blips. So it goes blip..blip..blip etc etc etc search the archives of this list http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/ pd-list/ this exact problem, and a solution, has

[PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Derek Holzer
I'm grinding my teeth trying to work out an audio signal version of [mod]. I have a [phasor~]-driven looping abstraction with a variable loop point, but sometimes the parameters I send it cause it to go past the end of the table, resulting in silence when I'd rather it started playing

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Derek Holzer wrote: end of the table)? [wrap~] doesn't do the trick, BTW. i am sure it does. try scaling the signal before sending it to [wrap~] and afterwards undo the scaling. [/~ 100] | [wrap~] | [*~ 100] mfa.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Derek Holzer
I tried this already, and it's not appropriate in this case. The idea is to change the start of the loop to any place in the sample. If the length of the loop is longer than what's left of the sample in the table, currently I get silence. If I use [wrap~] the way you describe it, the loop I

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Derek Holzer
Test patch attached... see the [wraparound~] subpatch for the part which doesn't work yet! d. Derek Holzer wrote: I tried this already, and it's not appropriate in this case. The idea is to change the start of the loop to any place in the sample. If the length of the loop is longer than

Re: [PD] mod~ ??? [corrected test patch, still needs help]

2007-05-07 Thread Derek Holzer
Sorry, last patch was missing the tabread! Use this one! d. Derek Holzer wrote: Test patch attached... see the [wraparound~] subpatch for the part which doesn't work yet! d. Derek Holzer wrote: I tried this already, and it's not appropriate in this case. The idea is to change the

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi derek i attached a patch, that should do what you want. it is a modified version of IOhannes approach, but it is still only a [wrap~] with scaling functionality. roman On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 19:00 +0200, Derek Holzer wrote: I tried this already, and it's not appropriate in this case. The

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread martin.peach
marius schebella wrote: 2) Is it possible to get microsecond accuracy in metro? the difference between metro 200 and 200.5 would be one beat per minute. for synchronizing a big difference. marius. [metro] is very accurate over time, it just has a jitter as the bangs have to happen in

Re: [PD] [declare]: -path seems not to be added to the searchpathes

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 16:58 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: hi i cannot get [declare]'s -path-flag working. i tried relative pathes as well as absolute ones. oh yes, i forgot: that's a problem

Re: [PD] mod~ ??? [almost there, but not quite!]

2007-05-07 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Roman, and thanks. I implemented it in my patch, but it doesn't seem to work right. The looping isn't seamless, in fact there's a hiccup at the point where the loop wraps around. In my previous version, I had another function to calculate the offset and start point, so what would work

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote: Test patch attached... see the [wraparound~] subpatch for the part which doesn't work yet! I added a [tabread4~ test_zample] and now it works. ;) Now seriously: The forgotten tabread probably wasn't the error you were looking for. But

Re: [PD] [Instance]

2007-05-07 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Yes, but good luck actually being able to use the toxy library out of box! ~Kyle On 5/4/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2007, at 11:56 PM, Chris McCormick wrote: On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 03:10:16PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 02:01 -0700,

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Frank, thanks for helping. This is the solution I tried at first. However, with this every loop starts at the beginning of the table, no matter where I set the loop offset. I'm assuming you actually tested it before posting, so are there different versions of [wrap~] perhaps? d. Frank

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote: Test patch attached... see the [wraparound~] subpatch for the part which doesn't work yet! I added a [tabread4~ test_zample] and now it works. ;) Now seriously: The

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Derek Holzer
Yes, correct. If I have a table that's 100 places long, and I set the offset to 95 and the length to 25, I would like to get a loop that starts at 95 and when it reaches 100, continue playing at 0 up to 25. The next loop would then begin again at 95 and wrap around through 0 to 25, und so

Re: [PD] [Instance]

2007-05-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
As far as I know, [tot] is quite stable, at least in the context of Pd-extended. If anyone has a problems with it, please file a bug report. .hc On May 7, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Never mind, that one actually worked for me. But the tot examples are not loaded when using

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Derek Holzer
Sorry! Should read: Yes, correct. If I have a table that's 100 places long, and I set the offset to 95 and the length to 30, I would like to get a loop that starts at 95 and when it reaches 100, continue playing at 0 up to 25. The next loop would then begin again at 95 and wrap around through

[PD] Toxy (was Re: [Instance])

2007-05-07 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
You are right, I just started looking through the Toxy library examples, and so far it looks really nice! I'm excited about this! How do these sliders and such compare with the iemgui objects in terms of gridlock? ~Kyle On 5/7/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I

Re: [PD] Space Invaders 4D Game

2007-05-07 Thread nosehair911
I'm just starting out in PD but 99.9% of the time I can break something down and figure out how it works or find something online, but can someone explain to me how to use two gemheads to render a pattern with just on geo. I understand the textfile object and the text file part what I down

Re: [PD] mod~ ??? [almost there, but not quite!]

2007-05-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Derek Holzer wrote: Hi Roman, and thanks. I implemented it in my patch, but it doesn't seem to work right. The looping isn't seamless, in fact there's a hiccup at the point where the loop wraps around. In my previous version, I had another function to calculate the offset and start point,

[PD] pd object for wii remote?

2007-05-07 Thread Ariel B.
hello list, this is my first time using this list. there is any object to receive data in pd from a wii remote? like this object http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/max/ (the author of this object publish the source code, how this object can it be converted to pd?) how can i get data from wii remote

[PD] pd object for wii remote?

2007-05-07 Thread Ariel B.
hello list, this is my first time using this list. there is any object to receive data in pd from a wii remote? like this object http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/max/ (the author of this object publish the source code, how this object can it be converted to pd?) how can i get data from wii remote

Re: [PD] mod~ ??? [almost there, but not quite!]

2007-05-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Derek Holzer wrote: Hi Roman, and thanks. I implemented it in my patch, but it doesn't seem to work right. The looping isn't seamless, in fact there's a hiccup at the point where the loop wraps around. In my previous version, I had another function to calculate

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Hi there, I am not so terribly into that right now.. Just an idea. What if you just shift the table and write it to a second one... silly probably... just an idea Am 07.05.2007 um 20:25 schrieb Derek Holzer: Sorry! Should read: Yes, correct. If I have a table that's 100 places long, and

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Derek Holzer wrote: Yes, correct. If I have a table that's 100 places long, and I set the offset to 95 and the length to 30, I would like to get a loop that starts at 95 and when it reaches 100, continue playing at 0 up to 25. The next loop would then begin again at 95 and wrap around through

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [metro] is very accurate over time, it just has a jitter as the bangs have to happen in between sample blocks What do you mean by this bangs have to happen in between sample blocks? The bangs from metro AFAIK happen independent

Re: [PD] Toxy (was Re: [Instance])

2007-05-07 Thread carmen
On Mon May 07, 2007 at 01:26:09PM -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: You are right, I just started looking through the Toxy library examples, and so far it looks really nice! I'm excited about this! How do these sliders and such compare with the iemgui objects in terms of gridlock? you mean like

Re: [PD] Toxy (was Re: [Instance])

2007-05-07 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
One question I have with the toxy sliders is this: in the multiscale-test.pd file, there are some really neat sliders, but how do you create these, and what are the creation arguments? I know that we can just go in to the patch as a text file and get this information, but it would be nice if

Re: [PD] mod~ ??? (FIXED)

2007-05-07 Thread Thomas Ouellet Fredericks
I fixed it so it works. Solution is attached. If you are interested in samplers, loading multiple samples, having smooth loop points, sending to multiple targets, etc, you should also check out the sample section of the pdmtl abstractions:

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 20:59 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [metro] is very accurate over time, it just has a jitter as the bangs have to happen in between sample blocks What do you mean by this bangs have to happen in

Re: [PD] Toxy (was Re: [Instance])

2007-05-07 Thread carmen
On Mon May 07, 2007 at 02:08:12PM -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: One question I have with the toxy sliders is this: in the multiscale-test.pd file, there are some really neat sliders, but how do you create these, and what are the creation arguments? [widget widgetname widgetref moreargs]

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the bangs are independent but they don't get processed until any pending samples have been dealt with. That was the impression I got when testing [comport] by setting the DTR pin using [metro]: there is always a jitter

Re: [PD] mod~ ???

2007-05-07 Thread Steffen
On 07/05/2007, at 20.51, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Note: 0 - [wrap~] - 1, which is weird (and undesirable in my eyes). Yeah. I still can't translate wrap~ gives the difference between the input and the largest integer not exceeding it to that. The quote is from the help file.

Re: [PD] Toxy (was Re: [Instance])

2007-05-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There is a fair amount of documentation on the website: http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/toxy.html It would be very handy if you created some better help files for this stuff thru your explorations. I'll happily check them in. Also, if you get really inspired, it would be

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread martin.peach
Frank Barknecht wrote: I think, it's comport's fault: [metro] generates clock-delayed messages. These are like messages tagged with a time-stamp referring to Pd's internal clock. However an object needs to actually use the time-stamps and look at the clock to see what time it is. Objects

Re: [PD] accuracy of signal/message-objects

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: I think, it's comport's fault: [metro] generates clock-delayed messages. These are like messages tagged with a time-stamp referring to Pd's internal clock. However an object needs to actually use the

Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X

2007-05-07 Thread bigswift
pdp_glx, pd_xv and pdp_sdl all work on linux Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good. Can someone confirm that pdp_glx works fine on GNU/ Linux? Then I'll make the switch. .hc On May 5, 2007, at 6:25 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: This is just a tiny

Re: [PD] Problem compiling wiimote external

2007-05-07 Thread patrick
attached is the wiimote compiled with 32 bits intel on ubuntu dapper downloaded from the author's site (http://mikewoz.com/index.php?page=pd-stuff) could we include wiimote on pd extended? but this external depends on the CWiid library... pat - Original Message - From: Erwan

Re: [PD] Connection with sensors - new devices?

2007-05-07 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Hi Koray~ I am working on a group project that involves Arduino and the parallax PING ultrasonic sensors. Would you be willing to share your Pd patches regarding this usage, as indicated in this email? Thanks in advance! ~Kyle On 12/22/05, Koray Tahiroglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello Hans,

Re: [PD] Toxy (was Re: [Instance])

2007-05-07 Thread patrice colet
Good question, the [widget] and [tot] externals are maybe hacks, but also very powerfull if the user knows tcl and tk, but with a limited set of examples, certainly because a few people did try to explore this. I'm trying to build a 'good old' pianoroll,