Re: [PD] message ordering with send

2010-05-10 Thread ypatios
 Meaning, which receive will actually receive the data first? The one that
 was first connected?


Althougth that is true for local connections, weirdly enough, in non-local
connections the last created receive object receives data first.
In local connections the problem can be solved using trigger. A solution for
non-local ones doesn't occur to me.

If there is really no workaround on this:
What if a second argument would define the order? (e.g.: [r bala 1], [r bala
2] ... )



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Re: [PD] message ordering with send

2010-05-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-05-10 07:34, Alexandre Porres wrote:
 hi there, quick question,
 
 say I got a [send] object and many pairing [receive]... how do you predict
 the ordering of messages, or can't you do it at all? Meaning, which receive
 will actually receive the data first? The one that was first connected?
 
 My hint is that you have no way to control this


as soon as you use send/receive or connect multiple inlets to a single
outlet, you are deliberately giving up control on order of execution.
even if you think you might have found some logic behind the order of
execution, be aware that this is purely by chance.
don't rely on it.

if you need to make sure of a certain order take explicit measures!
it's easy.

mnasdr
IOhannes

PS: rumours are that there are at least two different receive objects
living out there that have a way to define explicit ordering. don't try
to hunt them down



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Re: [PD] vista win7 support ?

2010-05-10 Thread patko
 My friend Dichotomie ( Binary search algorithm )
has helped me out to find out the problem with this patch.

just replace print NO_match by print Nomatch

 it's seems there's a problem with stdout or something like this
I'll try to pay attention to warnings during next compile unless
someone finds out that micromagic...

Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 

- patko colet.patr...@free.fr a écrit :

 The problem is one light year beyond what I've suggested first,
 sorry,
 it comes from the help patch.
 
  It's very hard to figure out what's going on,
 and watching what's happening by modifying things
 by hand with a text editor might help to
 find out the kinky lines, good luck!
 
  Why not trying out select-help.pd from vanilla or older one in svn?
 
 
 Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 
 
 - rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net a écrit :
 
  tested this tonight on one machine running win7.
  replacing the pd.dll in the pd/bin folder made pd unable to
 start
  
  
  
  On May 08, 2010, at 16:38, patko wrote:
  
   I've recently compiled a version of pd-extended
   just replacing pd.dll fixes it, it's attached
   
   - rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net a écrit :
   
   i reported this problem several months ago.
   the suggestion back then was to test nightly builds, which did
 not
   work at the time.
   more recent nightly builds did not solve this problem either.
   
   it appears on some laptops running vista or windows7, but not
 all.
   i have so far not been able to recreate this problem on a
 machine
  that
   did not have the problem.
   
   has anyone else seen this problem? been able to solve it?
   
   i have several pd courses coming up for which i'm expecting the
   majority of participants to be running windoze - they will be
  brining
   in their own machines. 
   problem is, once into the courses i will not have the time to
   troubleshoot this kind of problem and i dread going into this
  knowing
   that any machine running vista or windows7 is potentially
  unstable...
   
   would greatly appreciate help in figuring this out
   
   rene
   
   
   
   On Feb 14, 2010, at 19:23, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
   
   
   1) try a Pd-extended 0.42.5 nightly build
   
   2) try this version with the [multiselect] object removed from
  the
   related objects subpatch
   
   select-help.pd
   
   
   .hc
   
   On Feb 14, 2010, at 7:59 AM, rene beekman wrote:
   
   we're having problems running pd-extended 0.41.4 on vista 
   windows7
   problems seem to be related to several particular objects or
   patches
   one example is the select-help patch. opening the help patch
  either
   via the desktop, or from within pd via the browser or via the
  context
   menu's 'help' option results in windows closing pd
   
   the application error log on one particular machine shows
 this:
   
   Faulting application pd.exe, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp
   0x4a277929, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.6002.18005,
  time
   stamp 0x49e03821, exception code 0xc005, fault offset
  0x00041f3c,
   process id 0x1534, application start time 0x01caad6a4a506d60.
   
   on the windows7 machine, it is the same library that is marked
  as
   faulting module, only it's a 6.1 version
   
   is this a known bug?
   any workarounds?
   
   thanks in advance
   
   rene
   
   
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Re: [PD] Neural Network examples in pd

2010-05-10 Thread Max
the 'research' page is without content though:
http://www.davidemorelli.it/digital.html


Am 05.05.2010 um 15:13 schrieb li...@roawr.com:
 Hello,
 
 I will demo pd with fann (http://leenissen.dk/fann/) for a class at my uni. 
 Does anybody have examples or patches where pd and fann or pd and any other 
 ann is used?

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)

2010-05-10 Thread Matt Barber
What a coincidence -- I woke up with one-over-zed-head myself this morning.


 made with PureData/GridFlow

   http://gridflow.ca/gallery/un_sur_z%C3%A8de.jpg

 (this is actually one screenshot I took from a live video output.)


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Re: [PD] new pd releases

2010-05-10 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi Alex --

it's mostly waiting for me to get my act together -- Hans and Iohannes have
done an excellent GUI rewrite and things are basically waiting for me to
change my debug-and-release cycle to accomodate it (a good thing really
but it means I have to make major changes).

I hope to have everything figured out by this summer...

cheers
Miller

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:37:09AM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote:
 hi there, please fill me in for any plans on new releases of Pd Vanila
 (0.43) and Pd-extended (0.42.5).
 
 thanks a bunch
 Alex

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Re: [PD] message ordering with send

2010-05-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 10 May 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:


PS: rumours are that there are at least two different receive objects
living out there that have a way to define explicit ordering. don't try
to hunt them down


one is [iemguts/oreceive]. what's the other one ?

and why don't try to hunt them down ?

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[PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu

2010-05-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all

I created a package of the [wiimote] external, written by Mike
Wozniewki; MotionPlus support added by IOhannes m zmoelnig:

https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps

Note: In order to enable support for MotionPlus on Karmic (and older), I
had to backport the cwiid packages from Lucid to Karmic (and older). I
hope this does not break other packages depending on cwiid.

Have Fun (and report bugs)!

Roman




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Re: [PD] vista win7 support ?

2010-05-10 Thread patko


 
 just replace print NO_match by print Nomatch
 

in fact print doesn't support more than seven characters is argument symbol

the bug is easy to reproduce:
in a new patch create a [print ]  object and close, it will crash,
but under certain conditions, it doesn't crash with the version I often use,
 and I've no clue why, this bug is so tricky, 
it looks like a windows memory restriction nightmare.



I'm certain the bug come from those lines from x_interface.c:

if (argc)
{
t_binbuf *bb = binbuf_new();
binbuf_add(bb, argc, argv);
binbuf_gettext(bb, buf, bufsize);
buf[bufsize] = 0;
x-x_sym = gensym(buf);
binbuf_free(bb);
}

if you remove this the arg symbol won't crash pd.

it's just weird.




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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)

2010-05-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 10 May 2010, Pierre Massat wrote:

Seriously, what do you people do? I m sure you do more than just coffee 
and valeriane. Come on, be honest!


I do imaginary numbers, quadratic extensions of number fields, and 
wrap-around tiling (an unfolding of donut topology and such).


et, bien entendu, je fume des P.L.U.R. de bananes.

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[PD] rdz PPA

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Eckart
I'm trying to compile pd-extended from source (on Lucid amd64) and want
to be sure that gmerlin is compiled into GEM.  I came across Roman's ppa
at https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra
+deps?field.series_filter=lucid
but although I add it like any other, apt doesn't seem to update the
packages from the ppa (if I run sudo apt-get update | grep ppa my
other ppa's are displayed but not rdz).  I've managed to download and
install the individual packages from the web front-end but I thought I'd
mention this issue on here.

Maybe there's a configuration issue in the ppa for Lucid amd64?  Maybe I
did something wrong?

Thanks for providing this btw!

-martin


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[PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas

2010-05-10 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
So, I've been playing with scalars a bit and am still not quite sure I
understand how to actually create a new object/instance on canvas window
that can then use templates etc.

All tutorials already have those created and while I can change their
properties, I cannot for the love of the world figure out how to create
a new instance from scratch without copying and pasting existing one.
Copy/paste obviously works but how to create first one from scratch? In
other words, how does one create such an object in their own patch
without having to resort to copying and pasting from tutorial patches?
Or to put it more simply, what is the create canvas object method?

Thanks!

ico


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Re: [PD] rdz PPA

2010-05-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Martin

On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 11:42 -0400, Martin Eckart wrote:
 I'm trying to compile pd-extended from source (on Lucid amd64) and want
 to be sure that gmerlin is compiled into GEM.  I came across Roman's ppa
 at https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra
 +deps?field.series_filter=lucid

I only added the packages, that [readanysf~] depending on, which is
libgemrlin-avdec1 and libgavl1. gmerlin is a completely different
package, which is not part of my PPA. 

 but although I add it like any other, apt doesn't seem to update the
 packages from the ppa (if I run sudo apt-get update | grep ppa my
 other ppa's are displayed but not rdz).  I've managed to download and
 install the individual packages from the web front-end but I thought I'd
 mention this issue on here.
 
 Maybe there's a configuration issue in the ppa for Lucid amd64?  Maybe I
 did something wrong?

Only now I realized, that Gem indeed checks for libgmerlin-avdec1 (and
not for gmerlin, libgmerlin or the like). Since this package is not part
of the main distro, 'sudo aptitude install libgmerlin-avdec-dev ' should
install it. If your aptitude still cannot find it, make sure, that this
line:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps/ubuntu lucid main

is part of your /etc/apt/sources.list. If this still isn't the reason
for this PPA not showing up in your aptitude, then I don't know, what
could be wrong. 

 Thanks for providing this btw!

You're welcome!

Roman



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Re: [PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas

2010-05-10 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Never mind. Figure it out...

that said, FWIW this part may need better coverage under the scalar
help file which pops up when one selects help on it. The other confusing
thing is when you pull up properties for a scalar object on the graph
that the window that pops up is titled misleadingly Atom.

Ico


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Re: [PD] compiling flashserver in Linux

2010-05-10 Thread Pedro Lopes
Okay, thanks for explaining because Im fairly new to the list and to the PD
community project.
The diff that I present in [1] is actually between my version and the svn
hosted one.

I'll try to post a patch-file as you suggested. (by the way is there any
documentation on how to treat/report bug/issues on the pd community? - I
like to do things properly =P)

best regards,
Pedro Lopes

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:09 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote:

 On 2010-05-09 18:08, Pedro Lopes wrote:

  [1] https://puredata.info/Members/PedroLopes/flashserverLinuxFix
 

 it would be way easier to get the fixes into the sources if you could
 supply a patch-file (e.g. with svn diff flashserver.c), and post that
 (either to the bug-tracker at sourceforge or to this list)

 gfasdm
 IOhannes




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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)

2010-05-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard


On Sun, 9 May 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Sun, 9 May 2010, Arif Driessen wrote:

fractals! awesome!
Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that before... but there may be a fractal dimension 
to this figure.
Is the patch that created this lying around the woods of public access too? 
:)
Here's a version of it, as attachment, without the mirror effect (which would 
require a few more objects).


Some more notes about the patch I sent you (on pd-list) :

it doesn't compute 3/z, it computes 3(1+i)/z, so this means that 
it's rotated by 45 degrees compared to what it was supposed to be, and 
41,4% smaller. It was supposed to be [# put (3 0)] instead of [# put 
3], but I took the first thing I made that looked enough like the real 
thing.


the [# || 1] object is a hack because of a bug I found in [# C./]. It 
won't be needed in GridFlow 9.10.


the [t a a] [# put (3 0)] [# C./] will have a shortcut as [# C.inv* 
(3 0)] in GridFlow 9.10. This is by analogy with the existing [# /] 
and [# inv*].


(those changes are already available in the SVN).

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Re: [PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas

2010-05-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
/doc/4.data.structures/04.append.pd
The pd-msg tutorial shows how to use the scalar message to create one 
dynamically.

Also, I started to put together this help patch for scalar with my revised help 
patches for 
pddp.  It is a bit overkill and still needs some work, but it's a start.

-Jonathan

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:

From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas
To: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 6:05 PM

Never mind. Figure it out...

that said, FWIW this part may need better coverage under the scalar
help file which pops up when one selects help on it. The other confusing
thing is when you pull up properties for a scalar object on the graph
that the window that pops up is titled misleadingly Atom.

Ico


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Peach

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:


On Sun, 9 May 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Sun, 9 May 2010, Arif Driessen wrote:

fractals! awesome!
Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that before... but there may be a fractal 
dimension to this figure.
Is the patch that created this lying around the woods of public 
access too? :)
Here's a version of it, as attachment, without the mirror effect 
(which would require a few more objects).


Some more notes about the patch I sent you (on pd-list) :

it doesn't compute 3/z, it computes 3(1+i)/z, so this means that 
it's rotated by 45 degrees compared to what it was supposed to be, and 
41,4% smaller. It was supposed to be [# put (3 0)] instead of [# put 
3], but I took the first thing I made that looked enough like the 
real thing.


the [# || 1] object is a hack because of a bug I found in [# C./]. It 
won't be needed in GridFlow 9.10.


the [t a a] [# put (3 0)] [# C./] will have a shortcut as [# C.inv* 
(3 0)] in GridFlow 9.10. This is by analogy with the existing [# /] 
and [# inv*].




It's easier to see what's going on using the colourbar from hello-world.pd.
The [# + (120 160)] doesn't seem to have any effect, while the [# - (120 
160)] changes the position of the image.


Martin

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Re: [PD] rdz PPA

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Eckart
 I only added the packages, that [readanysf~] depending on, which is
 libgemrlin-avdec1 and libgavl1. gmerlin is a completely different
 package, which is not part of my PPA. 
 
Sorry I wasn't specific, GEM needs libgmerlin-avdec too. 

  Maybe there's a configuration issue in the ppa for Lucid amd64?  Maybe I
  did something wrong?
 
 Only now I realized, that Gem indeed checks for libgmerlin-avdec1 (and
 not for gmerlin, libgmerlin or the like). Since this package is not part
 of the main distro, 'sudo aptitude install libgmerlin-avdec-dev ' should
 install it. If your aptitude still cannot find it, make sure, that this
 line:
 
 deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps/ubuntu lucid main
 
 is part of your /etc/apt/sources.list. If this still isn't the reason
 for this PPA not showing up in your aptitude, then I don't know, what
 could be wrong. 
 
There's a file called /etc/apt/sources.list.d/reduzierer-rdz-pd-extra
+deps-lucid.list whose contents are:
---
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps/ubuntu lucid
main
---
I assume Lucid just organizes sources.list a little differently than
previous versions.  The other PPAs I have are handled the same way.

Curiously, in synaptic when sorting by Origin, your ppa is the only one
that isn't in the list.  This smells like a small quirky bug and my best
guesses at the moment are that either apt doesn't really like the '+'
character in the PPA name or my version of Lucid doesn't think your PPA
contains any packages for 64 bit lucid.

  Thanks for providing this btw!
 
 You're welcome!
This was one of the easiest compiling experiences I've ever had in
ubuntu.  Following the pd-extended instructions and grabbing your
gmerlin .debs everything came together automatically into a nice
little .deb.

For anyone interested in that (it might work on your amd64 Lucid) you
can download it from:
http://imartron.com/misc/Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100510ppa1~Lucid1.deb

I'll figure out how to make my own ppa for that one day.

-martin


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Re: [PD] rdz PPA

2010-05-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 12:54 -0400, Martin Eckart wrote:

 There's a file called /etc/apt/sources.list.d/reduzierer-rdz-pd-extra
 +deps-lucid.list whose contents are:
 ---
 deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps/ubuntu lucid
 main
 ---
 I assume Lucid just organizes sources.list a little differently than
 previous versions.  The other PPAs I have are handled the same way.
 
 Curiously, in synaptic when sorting by Origin, your ppa is the only one
 that isn't in the list.  This smells like a small quirky bug and my best
 guesses at the moment are that either apt doesn't really like the '+'
 character in the PPA name or my version of Lucid doesn't think your PPA
 contains any packages for 64 bit lucid.

Ah, I guess you did:

$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps

which also here added a file to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, and also here,
it didn't work. It only worked after putting the the appropriate line to
the main /etc/apt/sources.list. Now that you're saying that it works for
other PPAs, it really smells like some '+' issue. Don't know why I have
put the '+' into the PPA's name in the first place. I think it's rather
not related to your system being amd64. Anyway, thanks for reporting.

 This was one of the easiest compiling experiences I've ever had in
 ubuntu.  Following the pd-extended instructions and grabbing your
 gmerlin .debs everything came together automatically into a nice
 little .deb.

Cool!

Roman




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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)

2010-05-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 10 May 2010, Martin Peach wrote:


It's easier to see what's going on using the colourbar from hello-world.pd.


But hello-world.pd is unrelated to moving pixels around like 
[#remap_image] does. [#remap_image] is like a giant [tabread] from outer 
space whereas hello-world.pd (or [#hello]) is not.


The [# + (120 160)] doesn't seem to have any effect, while the [# - (120 
160)] changes the position of the image.


the [# +] (that goes into [#remap_image]) changes the position in the 
source image, which leads to a more interesting transformation, in which 
the borders of the tiles (which are circles) change radius.


the [# -] (that [#remap_image] goes into) only changes the position of the 
image.


basically, it's the same operation, but depending on whether you apply it 
before or after the inversion, it has a different effect on it. It's like 
when you plot (1/z)+c versus 1/(z+c).


In this case (using [# put (3 0)]), it's (1/(z-c))+c, which is sort of 
a special case because 1/z is sandwiched between a -c step and a +c step, 
which are exact opposites of each other, and thus you can see it as the 
1/z is happening relative to a point other than (0 0). It's just that you 
choose the position of your simple pôle.


It's like when you do a [# -] [#rotate] [# +] sequence, you are rotating 
the coordinates around a different point than (0 0).


This concept of applying A then B then undoing the A, is very useful and 
I often put things between [# *] [# /] pairs, [# ] [# ] pairs, [# c2p] 
[# p2c] pairs, with same arguments.


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Peach

Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2010, Martin Peach wrote:

It's easier to see what's going on using the colourbar from 
hello-world.pd.


But hello-world.pd is unrelated to moving pixels around like 
[#remap_image] does. [#remap_image] is like a giant [tabread] from outer 
space whereas hello-world.pd (or [#hello]) is not.


Of course, I just meant that it's easier to see the transformation that 
[#remap_image] is applying with a simple fixed image.




The [# + (120 160)] doesn't seem to have any effect, while the [# - 
(120 160)] changes the position of the image.


the [# +] (that goes into [#remap_image]) changes the position in the 
source image, which leads to a more interesting transformation, in which 
the borders of the tiles (which are circles) change radius.




So I probably need to use an source image that has texture in both 
dimensions, as with vertical bars it does nothing obvious.


the [# -] (that [#remap_image] goes into) only changes the position of 
the image.


basically, it's the same operation, but depending on whether you apply 
it before or after the inversion, it has a different effect on it. It's 
like when you plot (1/z)+c versus 1/(z+c).


In this case (using [# put (3 0)]), it's (1/(z-c))+c, which is sort 
of a special case because 1/z is sandwiched between a -c step and a +c 
step, which are exact opposites of each other, and thus you can see it 
as the 1/z is happening relative to a point other than (0 0). It's just 
that you choose the position of your simple pôle.


It's like when you do a [# -] [#rotate] [# +] sequence, you are rotating 
the coordinates around a different point than (0 0).


This concept of applying A then B then undoing the A, is very useful 
and I often put things between [# *] [# /] pairs, [# ] [# ] pairs, 
[# c2p] [# p2c] pairs, with same arguments.


for anything non-commutative, where [a then b] is not the same as [b 
then a].


I attached my hacked-up version of your patches.

Martin



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)

2010-05-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 10 May 2010, Martin Peach wrote:

So I probably need to use an source image that has texture in both 
dimensions, as with vertical bars it does nothing obvious.


It depends which axis you do the [# -] on...

BTW instead of [pack f f] with [t b a] you can do [#pack] without [t b a] 
if what you need in the end is a grid of ints. But if you really need the 
120 160 init, then there is no shortcut for that.


This concept of applying A then B then undoing the A, is very useful and 
I often put things between [# *] [# /] pairs, [# ] [# ] pairs, [# c2p] 
[# p2c] pairs, with same arguments.

for anything non-commutative, where [a then b] is not the same as [b then a].


Yes. I'd like to note that with limited precision, the amount of 
commutativity can be quite limited : [a then b] minus [b then a] will 
leave a small trail of residue. Thus I use [# *] [# /] that algebraïcally 
may look useless, if I forget that I don't work with real numbers or an 
extension thereof, but with ints, it clearly makes a big difference 
because of the rounding. (float rounding, however, is usually much more 
subtle than that, and [# *] [# /] is rarely useful to deal with it.)



I attached my hacked-up version of your patches.


fun :)

I often do such mashups. It's an easy way to produce more interesting 
results using previous interesting results.


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu

2010-05-10 Thread Husk 00
Well done Roman!
As soon I can I'll test it.
husk

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote:

 Hi all

 I created a package of the [wiimote] external, written by Mike
 Wozniewki; MotionPlus support added by IOhannes m zmoelnig:

 https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps

 Note: In order to enable support for MotionPlus on Karmic (and older), I
 had to backport the cwiid packages from Lucid to Karmic (and older). I
 hope this does not break other packages depending on cwiid.

 Have Fun (and report bugs)!

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Eckart
This package is working almost perfectly for me in Lucid.  The main
issue I'm having right now is that the nunchuck is being mis-recognized
as the classic controller for which there is no support.  I get the
message Classic controller attached. There is no real support for this
yet. when plugging in the nunchuck and none of the nunchuck functions
work.

Nunchuck works fine in wmgui so there's something funny in the wiimote
abstraction I think.

-martin


On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:20 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I created a package of the [wiimote] external, written by Mike
 Wozniewki; MotionPlus support added by IOhannes m zmoelnig:
 
 https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps
 
 Note: In order to enable support for MotionPlus on Karmic (and older), I
 had to backport the cwiid packages from Lucid to Karmic (and older). I
 hope this does not break other packages depending on cwiid.
 
 Have Fun (and report bugs)!
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu

2010-05-10 Thread Pagano, Patrick
I had problems with Woz's nunchuck controls depending on how I found the wii
It would not work at all or all values would go to max, then a restart would 
recognize the nunchuck, it would work for a few minutes then crash

pp

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This package is working almost perfectly for me in Lucid.  The main
issue I'm having right now is that the nunchuck is being mis-recognized
as the classic controller for which there is no support.  I get the
message Classic controller attached. There is no real support for this
yet. when plugging in the nunchuck and none of the nunchuck functions
work.

Nunchuck works fine in wmgui so there's something funny in the wiimote
abstraction I think.

-martin


On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:20 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I created a package of the [wiimote] external, written by Mike
 Wozniewki; MotionPlus support added by IOhannes m zmoelnig:
 
 https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps
 
 Note: In order to enable support for MotionPlus on Karmic (and older), I
 had to backport the cwiid packages from Lucid to Karmic (and older). I
 hope this does not break other packages depending on cwiid.
 
 Have Fun (and report bugs)!
 
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[PD] pd-extended recent autobuilds

2010-05-10 Thread Michal Seta
Hi all + Hans,

I just installed pd-extended (0.42.5 build of april 30 2010) on a new
machine to discover that it is now called pdextended and it does not
show up in the applications menu (should I report a bug somewhere?)
and that pdsend is missing.  Is pdsend/pdreceive being phased out?
Are these changes documented somewhere?
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu

2010-05-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 16:18 -0400, Martin Eckart wrote:
 This package is working almost perfectly for me in Lucid.  The main
 issue I'm having right now is that the nunchuck is being mis-recognized
 as the classic controller for which there is no support.  I get the
 message Classic controller attached. There is no real support for this
 yet. when plugging in the nunchuck and none of the nunchuck functions
 work.

Thanks for reporting. I don't have a nunchuk to test myself, but since
you say, that wmgui recognizes it correctly, it seems like a bug in
[wiimote]. Interestingly wmgui recognizes my 'classic controller' and
also displays the controls correctly, but not the MotionPlus. It looks
like the cwiid library has support for all three extensions, but wmgui
and [wiimote] don't have all implemented. 

 Nunchuck works fine in wmgui so there's something funny in the wiimote
 abstraction I think.

I guess the best would be to open a new ticket in the bug tracker.
Hopefully a mercyful soul will fix it. 

Roman




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Re: [PD] vista win7 support ?

2010-05-10 Thread rene beekman
many thanks, i made the necessary changes to the select help patch and will be 
trying this modified patch in the coming days on several machines.
will post updates when i have more.

thanks again.

rene



On May 10, 2010, at 18:28, patko wrote:

 
 
 
 just replace print NO_match by print Nomatch
 
 
 in fact print doesn't support more than seven characters is argument symbol
 
 the bug is easy to reproduce:
 in a new patch create a [print ]  object and close, it will crash,
 but under certain conditions, it doesn't crash with the version I often use,
 and I've no clue why, this bug is so tricky, 
 it looks like a windows memory restriction nightmare.
 
 
 
 I'm certain the bug come from those lines from x_interface.c:
 
if (argc)
{
t_binbuf *bb = binbuf_new();
binbuf_add(bb, argc, argv);
binbuf_gettext(bb, buf, bufsize);
buf[bufsize] = 0;
x-x_sym = gensym(buf);
binbuf_free(bb);
}
 
 if you remove this the arg symbol won't crash pd.
 
 it's just weird.
 
 
 


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Re: [PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas

2010-05-10 Thread João Pais
for a very simple automatic scalar creation, look at my abs  
jmmmp/pd-colors. I'm sure you'll understand it easily.


there are many things that should be improved on data-s, so that they're  
really usable on more complex compositional contexts, and not only to draw  
some fancy guis. but since this is a very obscure area of pd, don't know  
if much energy will be put in there.




Never mind. Figure it out...

that said, FWIW this part may need better coverage under the scalar
help file which pops up when one selects help on it. The other confusing
thing is when you pull up properties for a scalar object on the graph
that the window that pops up is titled misleadingly Atom.

Ico


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Re: [PD] pd-extended recent autobuilds

2010-05-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


The 'pd-extended' package can now co-exist with the official  
'puredata' package, hence the binary being called 'pdextended'.  It  
should show up in the applications menu, so that's a bug.  As for  
pdsend/pdreceive, install 'puredata' to get those.  Ultimately, I  
think those will go into a pd-common package or something like that.


.hc

On May 10, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Michal Seta wrote:


Hi all + Hans,

I just installed pd-extended (0.42.5 build of april 30 2010) on a new
machine to discover that it is now called pdextended and it does not
show up in the applications menu (should I report a bug somewhere?)
and that pdsend is missing.  Is pdsend/pdreceive being phased out?
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