Re: [PD] message ordering with send
Meaning, which receive will actually receive the data first? The one that was first connected? Althougth that is true for local connections, weirdly enough, in non-local connections the last created receive object receives data first. In local connections the problem can be solved using trigger. A solution for non-local ones doesn't occur to me. If there is really no workaround on this: What if a second argument would define the order? (e.g.: [r bala 1], [r bala 2] ... ) alabala -- ypatios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] message ordering with send
On 2010-05-10 07:34, Alexandre Porres wrote: hi there, quick question, say I got a [send] object and many pairing [receive]... how do you predict the ordering of messages, or can't you do it at all? Meaning, which receive will actually receive the data first? The one that was first connected? My hint is that you have no way to control this as soon as you use send/receive or connect multiple inlets to a single outlet, you are deliberately giving up control on order of execution. even if you think you might have found some logic behind the order of execution, be aware that this is purely by chance. don't rely on it. if you need to make sure of a certain order take explicit measures! it's easy. mnasdr IOhannes PS: rumours are that there are at least two different receive objects living out there that have a way to define explicit ordering. don't try to hunt them down smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vista win7 support ?
My friend Dichotomie ( Binary search algorithm ) has helped me out to find out the problem with this patch. just replace print NO_match by print Nomatch it's seems there's a problem with stdout or something like this I'll try to pay attention to warnings during next compile unless someone finds out that micromagic... Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 - patko colet.patr...@free.fr a écrit : The problem is one light year beyond what I've suggested first, sorry, it comes from the help patch. It's very hard to figure out what's going on, and watching what's happening by modifying things by hand with a text editor might help to find out the kinky lines, good luck! Why not trying out select-help.pd from vanilla or older one in svn? Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 - rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net a écrit : tested this tonight on one machine running win7. replacing the pd.dll in the pd/bin folder made pd unable to start On May 08, 2010, at 16:38, patko wrote: I've recently compiled a version of pd-extended just replacing pd.dll fixes it, it's attached - rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net a écrit : i reported this problem several months ago. the suggestion back then was to test nightly builds, which did not work at the time. more recent nightly builds did not solve this problem either. it appears on some laptops running vista or windows7, but not all. i have so far not been able to recreate this problem on a machine that did not have the problem. has anyone else seen this problem? been able to solve it? i have several pd courses coming up for which i'm expecting the majority of participants to be running windoze - they will be brining in their own machines. problem is, once into the courses i will not have the time to troubleshoot this kind of problem and i dread going into this knowing that any machine running vista or windows7 is potentially unstable... would greatly appreciate help in figuring this out rene On Feb 14, 2010, at 19:23, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: 1) try a Pd-extended 0.42.5 nightly build 2) try this version with the [multiselect] object removed from the related objects subpatch select-help.pd .hc On Feb 14, 2010, at 7:59 AM, rene beekman wrote: we're having problems running pd-extended 0.41.4 on vista windows7 problems seem to be related to several particular objects or patches one example is the select-help patch. opening the help patch either via the desktop, or from within pd via the browser or via the context menu's 'help' option results in windows closing pd the application error log on one particular machine shows this: Faulting application pd.exe, version 0.0.0.0, time stamp 0x4a277929, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 6.0.6002.18005, time stamp 0x49e03821, exception code 0xc005, fault offset 0x00041f3c, process id 0x1534, application start time 0x01caad6a4a506d60. on the windows7 machine, it is the same library that is marked as faulting module, only it's a 6.1 version is this a known bug? any workarounds? thanks in advance rene ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list We have nothing to fear from love and commitment. - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list pd.dll-win32-6.0.zip ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Neural Network examples in pd
the 'research' page is without content though: http://www.davidemorelli.it/digital.html Am 05.05.2010 um 15:13 schrieb li...@roawr.com: Hello, I will demo pd with fann (http://leenissen.dk/fann/) for a class at my uni. Does anybody have examples or patches where pd and fann or pd and any other ann is used? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)
What a coincidence -- I woke up with one-over-zed-head myself this morning. made with PureData/GridFlow http://gridflow.ca/gallery/un_sur_z%C3%A8de.jpg (this is actually one screenshot I took from a live video output.) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] new pd releases
Hi Alex -- it's mostly waiting for me to get my act together -- Hans and Iohannes have done an excellent GUI rewrite and things are basically waiting for me to change my debug-and-release cycle to accomodate it (a good thing really but it means I have to make major changes). I hope to have everything figured out by this summer... cheers Miller On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:37:09AM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote: hi there, please fill me in for any plans on new releases of Pd Vanila (0.43) and Pd-extended (0.42.5). thanks a bunch Alex ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] message ordering with send
On Mon, 10 May 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: PS: rumours are that there are at least two different receive objects living out there that have a way to define explicit ordering. don't try to hunt them down one is [iemguts/oreceive]. what's the other one ? and why don't try to hunt them down ? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu
Hi all I created a package of the [wiimote] external, written by Mike Wozniewki; MotionPlus support added by IOhannes m zmoelnig: https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps Note: In order to enable support for MotionPlus on Karmic (and older), I had to backport the cwiid packages from Lucid to Karmic (and older). I hope this does not break other packages depending on cwiid. Have Fun (and report bugs)! Roman ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vista win7 support ?
just replace print NO_match by print Nomatch in fact print doesn't support more than seven characters is argument symbol the bug is easy to reproduce: in a new patch create a [print ] object and close, it will crash, but under certain conditions, it doesn't crash with the version I often use, and I've no clue why, this bug is so tricky, it looks like a windows memory restriction nightmare. I'm certain the bug come from those lines from x_interface.c: if (argc) { t_binbuf *bb = binbuf_new(); binbuf_add(bb, argc, argv); binbuf_gettext(bb, buf, bufsize); buf[bufsize] = 0; x-x_sym = gensym(buf); binbuf_free(bb); } if you remove this the arg symbol won't crash pd. it's just weird. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)
On Mon, 10 May 2010, Pierre Massat wrote: Seriously, what do you people do? I m sure you do more than just coffee and valeriane. Come on, be honest! I do imaginary numbers, quadratic extensions of number fields, and wrap-around tiling (an unfolding of donut topology and such). et, bien entendu, je fume des P.L.U.R. de bananes. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] rdz PPA
I'm trying to compile pd-extended from source (on Lucid amd64) and want to be sure that gmerlin is compiled into GEM. I came across Roman's ppa at https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra +deps?field.series_filter=lucid but although I add it like any other, apt doesn't seem to update the packages from the ppa (if I run sudo apt-get update | grep ppa my other ppa's are displayed but not rdz). I've managed to download and install the individual packages from the web front-end but I thought I'd mention this issue on here. Maybe there's a configuration issue in the ppa for Lucid amd64? Maybe I did something wrong? Thanks for providing this btw! -martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas
So, I've been playing with scalars a bit and am still not quite sure I understand how to actually create a new object/instance on canvas window that can then use templates etc. All tutorials already have those created and while I can change their properties, I cannot for the love of the world figure out how to create a new instance from scratch without copying and pasting existing one. Copy/paste obviously works but how to create first one from scratch? In other words, how does one create such an object in their own patch without having to resort to copying and pasting from tutorial patches? Or to put it more simply, what is the create canvas object method? Thanks! ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rdz PPA
Hi Martin On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 11:42 -0400, Martin Eckart wrote: I'm trying to compile pd-extended from source (on Lucid amd64) and want to be sure that gmerlin is compiled into GEM. I came across Roman's ppa at https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra +deps?field.series_filter=lucid I only added the packages, that [readanysf~] depending on, which is libgemrlin-avdec1 and libgavl1. gmerlin is a completely different package, which is not part of my PPA. but although I add it like any other, apt doesn't seem to update the packages from the ppa (if I run sudo apt-get update | grep ppa my other ppa's are displayed but not rdz). I've managed to download and install the individual packages from the web front-end but I thought I'd mention this issue on here. Maybe there's a configuration issue in the ppa for Lucid amd64? Maybe I did something wrong? Only now I realized, that Gem indeed checks for libgmerlin-avdec1 (and not for gmerlin, libgmerlin or the like). Since this package is not part of the main distro, 'sudo aptitude install libgmerlin-avdec-dev ' should install it. If your aptitude still cannot find it, make sure, that this line: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps/ubuntu lucid main is part of your /etc/apt/sources.list. If this still isn't the reason for this PPA not showing up in your aptitude, then I don't know, what could be wrong. Thanks for providing this btw! You're welcome! Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas
Never mind. Figure it out... that said, FWIW this part may need better coverage under the scalar help file which pops up when one selects help on it. The other confusing thing is when you pull up properties for a scalar object on the graph that the window that pops up is titled misleadingly Atom. Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] compiling flashserver in Linux
Okay, thanks for explaining because Im fairly new to the list and to the PD community project. The diff that I present in [1] is actually between my version and the svn hosted one. I'll try to post a patch-file as you suggested. (by the way is there any documentation on how to treat/report bug/issues on the pd community? - I like to do things properly =P) best regards, Pedro Lopes On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:09 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: On 2010-05-09 18:08, Pedro Lopes wrote: [1] https://puredata.info/Members/PedroLopes/flashserverLinuxFix it would be way easier to get the fixes into the sources if you could supply a patch-file (e.g. with svn diff flashserver.c), and post that (either to the bug-tracker at sourceforge or to this list) gfasdm IOhannes -- Pedro Lopes contacto: j...@radiozero.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)
On Sun, 9 May 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 9 May 2010, Arif Driessen wrote: fractals! awesome! Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that before... but there may be a fractal dimension to this figure. Is the patch that created this lying around the woods of public access too? :) Here's a version of it, as attachment, without the mirror effect (which would require a few more objects). Some more notes about the patch I sent you (on pd-list) : it doesn't compute 3/z, it computes 3(1+i)/z, so this means that it's rotated by 45 degrees compared to what it was supposed to be, and 41,4% smaller. It was supposed to be [# put (3 0)] instead of [# put 3], but I took the first thing I made that looked enough like the real thing. the [# || 1] object is a hack because of a bug I found in [# C./]. It won't be needed in GridFlow 9.10. the [t a a] [# put (3 0)] [# C./] will have a shortcut as [# C.inv* (3 0)] in GridFlow 9.10. This is by analogy with the existing [# /] and [# inv*]. (those changes are already available in the SVN). _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas
/doc/4.data.structures/04.append.pd The pd-msg tutorial shows how to use the scalar message to create one dynamically. Also, I started to put together this help patch for scalar with my revised help patches for pddp. It is a bit overkill and still needs some work, but it's a start. -Jonathan --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 6:05 PM Never mind. Figure it out... that said, FWIW this part may need better coverage under the scalar help file which pops up when one selects help on it. The other confusing thing is when you pull up properties for a scalar object on the graph that the window that pops up is titled misleadingly Atom. Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list scalar-help.pd Description: application/puredata ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 9 May 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 9 May 2010, Arif Driessen wrote: fractals! awesome! Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that before... but there may be a fractal dimension to this figure. Is the patch that created this lying around the woods of public access too? :) Here's a version of it, as attachment, without the mirror effect (which would require a few more objects). Some more notes about the patch I sent you (on pd-list) : it doesn't compute 3/z, it computes 3(1+i)/z, so this means that it's rotated by 45 degrees compared to what it was supposed to be, and 41,4% smaller. It was supposed to be [# put (3 0)] instead of [# put 3], but I took the first thing I made that looked enough like the real thing. the [# || 1] object is a hack because of a bug I found in [# C./]. It won't be needed in GridFlow 9.10. the [t a a] [# put (3 0)] [# C./] will have a shortcut as [# C.inv* (3 0)] in GridFlow 9.10. This is by analogy with the existing [# /] and [# inv*]. It's easier to see what's going on using the colourbar from hello-world.pd. The [# + (120 160)] doesn't seem to have any effect, while the [# - (120 160)] changes the position of the image. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rdz PPA
I only added the packages, that [readanysf~] depending on, which is libgemrlin-avdec1 and libgavl1. gmerlin is a completely different package, which is not part of my PPA. Sorry I wasn't specific, GEM needs libgmerlin-avdec too. Maybe there's a configuration issue in the ppa for Lucid amd64? Maybe I did something wrong? Only now I realized, that Gem indeed checks for libgmerlin-avdec1 (and not for gmerlin, libgmerlin or the like). Since this package is not part of the main distro, 'sudo aptitude install libgmerlin-avdec-dev ' should install it. If your aptitude still cannot find it, make sure, that this line: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps/ubuntu lucid main is part of your /etc/apt/sources.list. If this still isn't the reason for this PPA not showing up in your aptitude, then I don't know, what could be wrong. There's a file called /etc/apt/sources.list.d/reduzierer-rdz-pd-extra +deps-lucid.list whose contents are: --- deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps/ubuntu lucid main --- I assume Lucid just organizes sources.list a little differently than previous versions. The other PPAs I have are handled the same way. Curiously, in synaptic when sorting by Origin, your ppa is the only one that isn't in the list. This smells like a small quirky bug and my best guesses at the moment are that either apt doesn't really like the '+' character in the PPA name or my version of Lucid doesn't think your PPA contains any packages for 64 bit lucid. Thanks for providing this btw! You're welcome! This was one of the easiest compiling experiences I've ever had in ubuntu. Following the pd-extended instructions and grabbing your gmerlin .debs everything came together automatically into a nice little .deb. For anyone interested in that (it might work on your amd64 Lucid) you can download it from: http://imartron.com/misc/Pd-0.42.5-extended-20100510ppa1~Lucid1.deb I'll figure out how to make my own ppa for that one day. -martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rdz PPA
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 12:54 -0400, Martin Eckart wrote: There's a file called /etc/apt/sources.list.d/reduzierer-rdz-pd-extra +deps-lucid.list whose contents are: --- deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps/ubuntu lucid main --- I assume Lucid just organizes sources.list a little differently than previous versions. The other PPAs I have are handled the same way. Curiously, in synaptic when sorting by Origin, your ppa is the only one that isn't in the list. This smells like a small quirky bug and my best guesses at the moment are that either apt doesn't really like the '+' character in the PPA name or my version of Lucid doesn't think your PPA contains any packages for 64 bit lucid. Ah, I guess you did: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:reduzierer/rdz-pd-extra+deps which also here added a file to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, and also here, it didn't work. It only worked after putting the the appropriate line to the main /etc/apt/sources.list. Now that you're saying that it works for other PPAs, it really smells like some '+' issue. Don't know why I have put the '+' into the PPA's name in the first place. I think it's rather not related to your system being amd64. Anyway, thanks for reporting. This was one of the easiest compiling experiences I've ever had in ubuntu. Following the pd-extended instructions and grabbing your gmerlin .debs everything came together automatically into a nice little .deb. Cool! Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)
On Mon, 10 May 2010, Martin Peach wrote: It's easier to see what's going on using the colourbar from hello-world.pd. But hello-world.pd is unrelated to moving pixels around like [#remap_image] does. [#remap_image] is like a giant [tabread] from outer space whereas hello-world.pd (or [#hello]) is not. The [# + (120 160)] doesn't seem to have any effect, while the [# - (120 160)] changes the position of the image. the [# +] (that goes into [#remap_image]) changes the position in the source image, which leads to a more interesting transformation, in which the borders of the tiles (which are circles) change radius. the [# -] (that [#remap_image] goes into) only changes the position of the image. basically, it's the same operation, but depending on whether you apply it before or after the inversion, it has a different effect on it. It's like when you plot (1/z)+c versus 1/(z+c). In this case (using [# put (3 0)]), it's (1/(z-c))+c, which is sort of a special case because 1/z is sandwiched between a -c step and a +c step, which are exact opposites of each other, and thus you can see it as the 1/z is happening relative to a point other than (0 0). It's just that you choose the position of your simple pôle. It's like when you do a [# -] [#rotate] [# +] sequence, you are rotating the coordinates around a different point than (0 0). This concept of applying A then B then undoing the A, is very useful and I often put things between [# *] [# /] pairs, [# ] [# ] pairs, [# c2p] [# p2c] pairs, with same arguments. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010, Martin Peach wrote: It's easier to see what's going on using the colourbar from hello-world.pd. But hello-world.pd is unrelated to moving pixels around like [#remap_image] does. [#remap_image] is like a giant [tabread] from outer space whereas hello-world.pd (or [#hello]) is not. Of course, I just meant that it's easier to see the transformation that [#remap_image] is applying with a simple fixed image. The [# + (120 160)] doesn't seem to have any effect, while the [# - (120 160)] changes the position of the image. the [# +] (that goes into [#remap_image]) changes the position in the source image, which leads to a more interesting transformation, in which the borders of the tiles (which are circles) change radius. So I probably need to use an source image that has texture in both dimensions, as with vertical bars it does nothing obvious. the [# -] (that [#remap_image] goes into) only changes the position of the image. basically, it's the same operation, but depending on whether you apply it before or after the inversion, it has a different effect on it. It's like when you plot (1/z)+c versus 1/(z+c). In this case (using [# put (3 0)]), it's (1/(z-c))+c, which is sort of a special case because 1/z is sandwiched between a -c step and a +c step, which are exact opposites of each other, and thus you can see it as the 1/z is happening relative to a point other than (0 0). It's just that you choose the position of your simple pôle. It's like when you do a [# -] [#rotate] [# +] sequence, you are rotating the coordinates around a different point than (0 0). This concept of applying A then B then undoing the A, is very useful and I often put things between [# *] [# /] pairs, [# ] [# ] pairs, [# c2p] [# p2c] pairs, with same arguments. for anything non-commutative, where [a then b] is not the same as [b then a]. I attached my hacked-up version of your patches. Martin hello-zed.pd Description: application/puredata ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] one over zed (a conformal function on the complex plane)
On Mon, 10 May 2010, Martin Peach wrote: So I probably need to use an source image that has texture in both dimensions, as with vertical bars it does nothing obvious. It depends which axis you do the [# -] on... BTW instead of [pack f f] with [t b a] you can do [#pack] without [t b a] if what you need in the end is a grid of ints. But if you really need the 120 160 init, then there is no shortcut for that. This concept of applying A then B then undoing the A, is very useful and I often put things between [# *] [# /] pairs, [# ] [# ] pairs, [# c2p] [# p2c] pairs, with same arguments. for anything non-commutative, where [a then b] is not the same as [b then a]. Yes. I'd like to note that with limited precision, the amount of commutativity can be quite limited : [a then b] minus [b then a] will leave a small trail of residue. Thus I use [# *] [# /] that algebraïcally may look useless, if I forget that I don't work with real numbers or an extension thereof, but with ints, it clearly makes a big difference because of the rounding. (float rounding, however, is usually much more subtle than that, and [# *] [# /] is rarely useful to deal with it.) I attached my hacked-up version of your patches. fun :) I often do such mashups. It's an easy way to produce more interesting results using previous interesting results. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu
Well done Roman! As soon I can I'll test it. husk On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi all I created a package of the [wiimote] external, written by Mike Wozniewki; MotionPlus support added by IOhannes m zmoelnig: https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps Note: In order to enable support for MotionPlus on Karmic (and older), I had to backport the cwiid packages from Lucid to Karmic (and older). I hope this does not break other packages depending on cwiid. Have Fun (and report bugs)! Roman ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce -- If identity in the Post-modernism is nothing you can call me a RadikalTeknoFreak Hartivist www.estereotips.net qeve.estereotips.net ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu
This package is working almost perfectly for me in Lucid. The main issue I'm having right now is that the nunchuck is being mis-recognized as the classic controller for which there is no support. I get the message Classic controller attached. There is no real support for this yet. when plugging in the nunchuck and none of the nunchuck functions work. Nunchuck works fine in wmgui so there's something funny in the wiimote abstraction I think. -martin On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:20 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi all I created a package of the [wiimote] external, written by Mike Wozniewki; MotionPlus support added by IOhannes m zmoelnig: https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps Note: In order to enable support for MotionPlus on Karmic (and older), I had to backport the cwiid packages from Lucid to Karmic (and older). I hope this does not break other packages depending on cwiid. Have Fun (and report bugs)! Roman ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu
I had problems with Woz's nunchuck controls depending on how I found the wii It would not work at all or all values would go to max, then a restart would recognize the nunchuck, it would work for a few minutes then crash pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Martin Eckart Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:18 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu This package is working almost perfectly for me in Lucid. The main issue I'm having right now is that the nunchuck is being mis-recognized as the classic controller for which there is no support. I get the message Classic controller attached. There is no real support for this yet. when plugging in the nunchuck and none of the nunchuck functions work. Nunchuck works fine in wmgui so there's something funny in the wiimote abstraction I think. -martin On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:20 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi all I created a package of the [wiimote] external, written by Mike Wozniewki; MotionPlus support added by IOhannes m zmoelnig: https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps Note: In order to enable support for MotionPlus on Karmic (and older), I had to backport the cwiid packages from Lucid to Karmic (and older). I hope this does not break other packages depending on cwiid. Have Fun (and report bugs)! Roman ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd-extended recent autobuilds
Hi all + Hans, I just installed pd-extended (0.42.5 build of april 30 2010) on a new machine to discover that it is now called pdextended and it does not show up in the applications menu (should I report a bug somewhere?) and that pdsend is missing. Is pdsend/pdreceive being phased out? Are these changes documented somewhere? -- ./MiS ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 16:18 -0400, Martin Eckart wrote: This package is working almost perfectly for me in Lucid. The main issue I'm having right now is that the nunchuck is being mis-recognized as the classic controller for which there is no support. I get the message Classic controller attached. There is no real support for this yet. when plugging in the nunchuck and none of the nunchuck functions work. Thanks for reporting. I don't have a nunchuk to test myself, but since you say, that wmgui recognizes it correctly, it seems like a bug in [wiimote]. Interestingly wmgui recognizes my 'classic controller' and also displays the controls correctly, but not the MotionPlus. It looks like the cwiid library has support for all three extensions, but wmgui and [wiimote] don't have all implemented. Nunchuck works fine in wmgui so there's something funny in the wiimote abstraction I think. I guess the best would be to open a new ticket in the bug tracker. Hopefully a mercyful soul will fix it. Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] vista win7 support ?
many thanks, i made the necessary changes to the select help patch and will be trying this modified patch in the coming days on several machines. will post updates when i have more. thanks again. rene On May 10, 2010, at 18:28, patko wrote: just replace print NO_match by print Nomatch in fact print doesn't support more than seven characters is argument symbol the bug is easy to reproduce: in a new patch create a [print ] object and close, it will crash, but under certain conditions, it doesn't crash with the version I often use, and I've no clue why, this bug is so tricky, it looks like a windows memory restriction nightmare. I'm certain the bug come from those lines from x_interface.c: if (argc) { t_binbuf *bb = binbuf_new(); binbuf_add(bb, argc, argv); binbuf_gettext(bb, buf, bufsize); buf[bufsize] = 0; x-x_sym = gensym(buf); binbuf_free(bb); } if you remove this the arg symbol won't crash pd. it's just weird. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] understanding graphics objects on canvas
for a very simple automatic scalar creation, look at my abs jmmmp/pd-colors. I'm sure you'll understand it easily. there are many things that should be improved on data-s, so that they're really usable on more complex compositional contexts, and not only to draw some fancy guis. but since this is a very obscure area of pd, don't know if much energy will be put in there. Never mind. Figure it out... that said, FWIW this part may need better coverage under the scalar help file which pops up when one selects help on it. The other confusing thing is when you pull up properties for a scalar object on the graph that the window that pops up is titled misleadingly Atom. Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended recent autobuilds
The 'pd-extended' package can now co-exist with the official 'puredata' package, hence the binary being called 'pdextended'. It should show up in the applications menu, so that's a bug. As for pdsend/pdreceive, install 'puredata' to get those. Ultimately, I think those will go into a pd-common package or something like that. .hc On May 10, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Michal Seta wrote: Hi all + Hans, I just installed pd-extended (0.42.5 build of april 30 2010) on a new machine to discover that it is now called pdextended and it does not show up in the applications menu (should I report a bug somewhere?) and that pdsend is missing. Is pdsend/pdreceive being phased out? Are these changes documented somewhere? -- ./MiS ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list