[PD] $1 inside a message is not saving data ?
Dear PD-list . I found that in PD-extended 42.5 - the $1 inside a message is not saving data. Is it a bug ? see patch below. \\ #N canvas 939 165 700 300 10; #X msg 139 127 0 \$1; #X obj 139 175 print; #X floatatom 111 74 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 181 73 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X text 117 48 1; #X text 183 52 2; #X text 216 112 Why message is not saving data in \$1 ?; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 0 0; \ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] $1 inside a message is not saving data ?
Yes, absolutelly. Thankyou ! Воскресенье, 6 октября 2013, 14:47 +02:00 от Jack j...@rybn.org: Le 06/10/2013 13:12, Фывапр Олджэвич a écrit : #N canvas 939 165 700 300 10; #X msg 139 127 0 \$1; #X obj 139 175 print; #X floatatom 111 74 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 181 73 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X text 117 48 1; #X text 183 52 2; #X text 216 112 Why message is not saving data in \$1 ?; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 0 0; Hello, Maybe you are looking for something attached with this patch ? ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Максим Иванов ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] libPD : unknown audio API specified - iOS or PD error ?
Hi List and LibPD developers ! Testing an iOS app with LibPD we get: unknown audio API specified Is it a PD patch problem or xCode ? or what can it be ? the Pd-patch works well in Vanilla. any advice please thanks ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] playing long audio files
So there's no way for playing long stereo audio files in PD-Vanilla with reloading them ? Воскресенье, 21 июля 2013, 10:08 +04:00 от Фывапр Олджэвич tofuc...@inbox.ru: i now work with PD-vanilla and it says that it is Pd 0.44.0test2 - so it is the latest version. i don't do that with Extended, cause trying to make long audio test for LibPD, and it requires Vanilla only. Пятница, 19 июля 2013, 19:45 +02:00 от IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: On 07/19/2013 01:54 PM, Фывапр Олджэвич wrote: Hi IOhannes ! Thanks for very particular answer and looking through the patch ! The only puprose with wich i do this complex resizing is that i need to play large audio files. The -resize tag somehow doesn't allow the samples longer then one-two minutes.. That was my initial issue, when starting this thread. upgrade Pd. the resize issue with longer soundfiles has been fixed in 0.43 gmsdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Максим Иванов ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Максим Иванов ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] playing long audio files
i now work with PD-vanilla and it says that it is Pd 0.44.0test2 - so it is the latest version. i don't do that with Extended, cause trying to make long audio test for LibPD, and it requires Vanilla only. Пятница, 19 июля 2013, 19:45 +02:00 от IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: On 07/19/2013 01:54 PM, Фывапр Олджэвич wrote: Hi IOhannes ! Thanks for very particular answer and looking through the patch ! The only puprose with wich i do this complex resizing is that i need to play large audio files. The -resize tag somehow doesn't allow the samples longer then one-two minutes.. That was my initial issue, when starting this thread. upgrade Pd. the resize issue with longer soundfiles has been fixed in 0.43 gmsdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Максим Иванов ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] playing long audio files
Dear List ! I made this patch to play long stereo audio file. You can load audiofile and play, but before - reset the sizes of tables. BUT, it plays only one stereo file in my Vanilla. So when i played one file and try to load another: i push the RESET-bang .. and PD crushes totally.. I can't understand the logic of it at all.. When the same algorithm is done with one table (mono play) - resetting works.. when it is two tables - it crushes. Please somebody look into the patch and try yourself - it is simple and commented inside. What can i do ? Thanks ! Понедельник, 15 июля 2013, 2:55 +02:00 от Colet Patrice colet.patr...@free.fr: Le 15/07/2013 02:34, Фывапр Олджэвич a écrit : Can i somehow load and play 1 hour of HQ audio into [soundfiler], for example ? What are the ways to do that with basic (vanilla) PD ? Also you may want to use [readsf~] instead -- Максим Иванов LONGPLAY_03_STEREO.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] playing long audio files
Hi IOhannes ! Thanks for very particular answer and looking through the patch ! The only puprose with wich i do this complex resizing is that i need to play large audio files. The -resize tag somehow doesn't allow the samples longer then one-two minutes.. That was my initial issue, when starting this thread. The useful answer i found was: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-4301-pausing-resuming-playback-multiple-large-audio-files For those who don't know, you can resize a table with a message like so: [; table_name resize 15876;( I like to set a max-size with a message like this, load a file into the table with [soundfiler], and then send the total samples output of [soundfiler] to another resize message to be sure there isn't any empty space after the loaded file. Later i found the example patch made by the guy (in attach). And it works well. You can reload files of different lenght into it. But it is only for mono. My attempt was to make the same thing for stereo, which is just doubling everything. My system has 6 GB of OM and 4 is available (Win7), but i'm agree that it is not elegant solution to resize tables like that.. anyway in my code they are resized one after another.. so in my logic that should have been working. But it doesn't. Did you try to play long stereo files in PD and reload them ? What can be the way ? thanks ! Пятница, 19 июля 2013, 9:54 +02:00 от IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-19 03:49, Фывапр Олджэвич wrote: Dear List ! I made this patch to play long stereo audio file. You can load audiofile and play, but before - reset the sizes of tables. BUT, it plays only one stereo file in my Vanilla. So when i played one file and try to load another: i push the RESET-bang .. and PD crushes totally.. well, i don't think it's Pd that's crashing - but rather the operating system that kills it. why? at the beginning you create 2 tables and resize them to 1 (what is this for?) and then to 15876 samples. given that Pd uses 4 bytes to save each sample (8 bytes on 64bit), this means that one table takes approximately 635MB (32bit) resp 1.27GB (64bit). so this gives you (for both tables) 1.27GB (32bit) resp 2.5GB (64bit) memory consumption. now when loading the table, you resize it, which potentially means allocating a new table which is bigger than the previous one, copying the data from the old table to the new one and then freeing the old table. so at some point you have doubled the amount of memory needed by your patch. how much RAM do you have? is your system/OS capable of addressing more than 4GB of memory? (e.g. PAE) is your system/OS capable of addressing more than 4GB of memory within a single application? (64bit) apart from that you patch is slightly buggy anyhow. imaging the following scenario: - - init tables with 1h of samples - - load a soundfile that is 3 seconds long (the sample gets loaded and the table gets resized to 3 seconds) - - load a soundfile that is 10 minutes long: the sample gets loaded into the 3 seconds table and is truncated. after that, the table is resized to 10 minutes - giving you 3 seconds of your soundfile and 9:57 of silence. did you know that [soundfiler] has a -resize switch that automatically resizes the table to your needs? btw, you might even want to resize your table to something small (1) before loading the sample. adgmsr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHo8LEACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTCJQCeJ5LygzizivKw41LEzg0MSuBi ozEAn0QvwPIZhI9e5BROlq6Xj/RP0Id/ =Fn0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Максим Иванов load_large_audio.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] playing long audio files
Hi ! Are PD-tables limited in loading audio ? Never managed to load and play file longer then minute .. it just doesn't load it. Can i somehow load and play 1 hour of HQ audio into [soundfiler], for example ? What are the ways to do that with basic (vanilla) PD ? Thanks ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] what is the pd-event in NY (8th april) ?
Hi , List ! What's the PD-event planned for 8th of April on New York ? I totally lost the info about it ! thanks ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Kinect - PD - simple 3D scan
Hi list ! Does anyone know how to run Kinect with PD to use it as a simple 3D-Scanner ? Right now I found only externals which work with skeleton and hands functions of Kinect. No depthmaps (( i'm searching it for Windows. Thanks ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] messages language
Hi list !
I'm studying PD and here's another question.
It seems that everything in PD-patch can be done with just messages, starting
with ;
Is it true ?
For example I can use
[ ; table1 sinesum 512 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5; table2 cosinesum 512 0 1 {
to draw wave in a table .
But where can I find the most complete list of this messages and their syntax
and meanings ??
For example in this help file for [tabosc4~] - I don't understand what this
numbers after sinesum and cosinesum mean ...
infact it is nowhere explained. and maybe there are a lot of other useful
commands..
I know about: pd\doc\manuals\pd-msg - is it all there ?
Thankyou !
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Re: [PD] Russian translation of the PD FLOSS Manual
Hello, Lana ! I'm from Moscow and I study PD. I can help you. I also do community - SoundArtist.ru - where you can find some Russian materials on the subject in links-directory . cheers Tue, 4 Sep 2012 02:11:33 +0200 от Max abonneme...@revolwear.com: Hi Lana, I can't help with russian, but I became admin for the FLOSS Manual jumping in for Derek. So if you need an admin to create another language let me know. (I didn't do much until now in the Manual though) m. Am 03.09.2012 um 19:43 schrieb Svetlana Rayskaya: Hi everybody, is there anyone interested in translating PD FLOSS Manual to russian? I need some help with it. Even if somebody would provide just proofreading, it would be a great relief. Best regards, Lana ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] finding objects ?
Thanks, Jonathan ! Seems, you did a giant work. I'll try to set it up on my machine . best ! serg Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:08:16 -0700 (PDT) от Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com: Hello serg, I made an attempt to build a search engine awhile back: http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/searchandbrowseplugin/view?searchterm=search%20plugin This plugin is designed to be exactly what you are looking for-- I know because I had the same problems when starting out with Pd and read similarly dreadful responses. It is a GUI plugin. Use the links Iohannes provided to install it. The plugin is designed to work with Pd-extended. (I also back-ported a version to use with Pd-l2ork but it isn't included there yet.) It searches for help patches in all the default sys and lib paths, plus any extra ones you specify in the path dialog (though this dialog may have been removed in a recent version-- I don't remember). Full text search works with all help patches. Searching by using the keywords listed toward the bottom of the main search page will only return results for help patches that have keyword metadata (i.e., help patches which I've revised to be searchable, which is maybe half of everything in Pd-extended). For me full text searches tend to take a few seconds on my GNU/Linux machine and much longer on OSX. (In Windows the first search takes forever but subsequent searches are somewhat faster.) I think improving the speed would require building an index and would be a lot more work. You won't get results for classes that don't have help patches, but then if the developer was too lazy to document what the object does then I'm sure they used all the time saved to make the object work flawlessly... :) Speaking of dev laziness-- there are many objects which have nearly empty help patches. If you run into this, be sure to try clicking the little info icon next to the search result. It will bring up the README.txt file for the corresponding library which often will give you a few more clues about the object in question. You can also click the folder icon to open an external file browser to see the full contents of an external library (like the binaries and and other non-doc files). Let me know if there are any keyword categories that would be useful to add to the main search page. Best, Jonathan From: Фывапр Олджэвич tofuc...@inbox.ru To: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 6:16 AM Subject: Re: [PD] finding objects ? Thankyou for your list ! \\ I know, although it's never actual. - Why ? I mean that if I don't know all the objects by memory, and I need some function to be done - I need easy search by categorys and so on - with descriptions... it is much easear, than asking List every time... and also helps to learn other objects faster. \\Also the object completion plugin helps to find objects (pd-ext 0.43). - what is it ? is it complemented with Extended 0.43 ? or should it be loaded apart ? and does it work for Windows ? cheers ! serg Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:24:09 +0200 от João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com: On 2012-09-03 00:19, ?? wrote: Dear list ! Where can I find the most complete PD-objects and commands reference, please ? right click on the object. select help. for pd-vanilla, right-click anywhere in an empty space, and select help. for pd-extended, there isn't one. my list (attached) is the most complete I know, although it's never actual. the pd-floss website also has a list, but only with part of the objects in this document. And why it is not on the main site - puredata.info ? because with help-patches that yre on your computer you do not have to be online and you can copypaste interesting stuff. or rather more because development of pd-extended externals is a bit chaotic, some developers don't do proper documentation, there isn't a system to control the quality (or existence) of documentation, etc... Jonathan Wilkes has done lots of work with pddp to update the documentation. Pd-Ext 0.43 has much more ressources, including better help patches for pd-vanilla. Also the object completion plugin helps to find objects (pd-ext 0.43). João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing
Re: [PD] finding objects ?
Hi and thankyou ! \\because with help-patches that yre on your computer you do not have to \\be online and you can copypaste interesting stuff. yes, I know about help patches, but as Processing and arduino has a list of all available commands and operators on a web-site (and it is douwnloadable) - it is easear to find objects and commands, which you don't know, but need. for example I couldn't find objects for easy rescaling, which are very usefull, but not mentioned in FLOSSmanuals and have no examples in docs... so i had to ask the List for such an objects... finally after waiting for a half of a day - [range] and [maxlib\scale] ... I think extended needs such thing. cheers Mon, 03 Sep 2012 09:09:13 +0200 от IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-09-03 00:19, ?? wrote: Dear list ! Where can I find the most complete PD-objects and commands reference, please ? right click on the object. select help. And why it is not on the main site - puredata.info ? because with help-patches that yre on your computer you do not have to be online and you can copypaste interesting stuff. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBEV5kACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRFmgCgoNriWnRQAuZSFEMJ4PoFCYk3 IJUAoJMg4gFapLgOOBgaHhb4kw9AhlbH =6iOK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] finding objects ?
Thankyou for your list ! \\ I know, although it's never actual. - Why ? I mean that if I don't know all the objects by memory, and I need some function to be done - I need easy search by categorys and so on - with descriptions... it is much easear, than asking List every time... and also helps to learn other objects faster. \\Also the object completion plugin helps to find objects (pd-ext 0.43). - what is it ? is it complemented with Extended 0.43 ? or should it be loaded apart ? and does it work for Windows ? cheers ! serg Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:24:09 +0200 от João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com: On 2012-09-03 00:19, ?? wrote: Dear list ! Where can I find the most complete PD-objects and commands reference, please ? right click on the object. select help. for pd-vanilla, right-click anywhere in an empty space, and select help. for pd-extended, there isn't one. my list (attached) is the most complete I know, although it's never actual. the pd-floss website also has a list, but only with part of the objects in this document. And why it is not on the main site - puredata.info ? because with help-patches that yre on your computer you do not have to be online and you can copypaste interesting stuff. or rather more because development of pd-extended externals is a bit chaotic, some developers don't do proper documentation, there isn't a system to control the quality (or existence) of documentation, etc... Jonathan Wilkes has done lots of work with pddp to update the documentation. Pd-Ext 0.43 has much more ressources, including better help patches for pd-vanilla. Also the object completion plugin helps to find objects (pd-ext 0.43). João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] finding objects ?
Dear list ! Where can I find the most complete PD-objects and commands reference, please ? And why it is not on the main site - puredata.info ? Thankyou ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] scale ?
Hi ! And Thankyou very much ! In the end of it all I can sum: 1) [autoscale] - dynamically moves it's scale-range if it has [1( at it's right-most inlet (and it has it by default) . 2) [range] - we can defy input and output range in it and linear or logarythmic scaling (by 1 or 0 to the right-most inlet) 3) [maxlib/scale] - works the same as [range] and seems to be it's prototype. So the HELP-file for [range] can be just copied from [maxlib/scale] . Maybe somebody can do it ? Thanks ! Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:04:44 +0300 от Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@googlemail.com: first argument: lowest value of the range you want to scale second argument: highest value of the range you want to scale third argument: lowest value of the desired range forth argument: highest value of the desired range These arguments can be replaced with numbers sent to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th inlet, respectively. Not sure what the last inlet does, though. On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Фывапр Олджэвич tofuc...@inbox.ru wrote: Hi everyone and thanks ! We found [range] object, which is not mentioned in helps and manuals and references... and it seems to work. Does anyone have HELP for this object ? thankyou ! Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:30:54 +0100 (BST) от Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk: Autoscale - I am not sure about this, but my own autoscaler needs to be primed by the lowest and highest values you expect from the input. Otherwise the patch gradually re-calibrates itself, so that a new value higher than any previous values will reset the scaling value. Anyway, you can find out more about this patch - enclosed with this email. Ed Gemnotes-0.1alpha: Live music notation for Pure Data http://sharktracks.co.uk/ -- From: Фывапр Олджэвич tofuc...@inbox.ru To: PD-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2012, 14:45 Subject: [PD] scale ? Hi ! how to do simple scaling in PD ? not via [autoscale] which is really unstable there is a [scale] object in MAX but here it is for GEM ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://drymonitis.me/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] scale ?
Hi ! how to do simple scaling in PD ? not via [autoscale] which is really unstable there is a [scale] object in MAX but here it is for GEM ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [TogEdge] - anything else ?
Hi ! [t b b] is a littlet bit not about that. I ment One Bang parsed to one side, than Next one - to other .. so the thing with [bang( | [tgl] | [sel 0]_ | \ [nmbrbox\ [nmbrbox\ propsed by Tim , - is the solution, and I used such a thing, but I thought that the readymade object is more stable - thatswhy i recoded everything with [TogEdge] .. is the [sel]-chain more stable in fast algorithms ? Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:13:22 +0200 от Marian Weger m...@marianweger.com: if you need it as fast as possible, [t b b b ...] does it. cheers, marian Am 20.06.12 02:11, schrieb Фывапр Олджэвич: Hi, list ! I use [TogEdge] object in several patches for deviding bangs - first to right , next - to left .. and again ... and so on .. But I noticed, that this object is not stable .. so if the process is fast - it can make mistakes and alteres the pairs of bangs .. No help in manuals and reference about the thing .. Can someone advice any object or short and very stable algorythm for the purpose ? Thank you very much ! serg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [TogEdge] - anything else ?
Hi, list ! I use [TogEdge] object in several patches for deviding bangs - first to right , next - to left .. and again ... and so on .. But I noticed, that this object is not stable .. so if the process is fast - it can make mistakes and alteres the pairs of bangs .. No help in manuals and reference about the thing .. Can someone advice any object or short and very stable algorythm for the purpose ? Thank you very much ! serg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] how to play long videos in PD ?
Hi, lists ! i try to play videos of 2 minutes long via [pix_movie] or [ pix_film ] . Non of them work . Nothing appears in GEM-window. But if i load a video of 1 or 2 seconds - it plays it . How can I play longer videos in PureData ? Maybe I miss something ? Thankyou ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [$0-array] ???
Thankyou very much ! That's it. Maybe we can add this into soundfiler-help patch in next release somehow ? serg Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:07:28 +0200 от IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: On 06/10/2012 11:03 AM, Фывапр Олджэвич wrote: Hi , O1iver ! thanks. Yes - the second picture - is what i need. But I use [soundfiler] to open soundfile .. And it needs a message like: [bang( | [openpanel] | [ read -resize $1 $0-tab ( | [soundfiler] So the problem is that i have an array called [$0-tab] , but the [soundfiler] doesn't write anything to it . It seems that message simply can't get with $0-things ?? yes. this has been discussed numerous times on and off list, please see the archives. the solution is to use object-boxes to do the $0-expansion, something like: [bang( | [openpanel] | [pack s $0] | [read -resize $1 $2-tab( | [soundfiler] fgmasrd IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [$0-array] ???
Hi dear List ! Please help. I need to do sampler, which could be dynamically loaded as an abstraction. As for internal send-recieve - I turn them all into $0-like variables. But what to do with sound-tables ?? I use [soundfiler] , and [tabread~] .. As I understand they need some ARRAY to read from.. But when I name an array with [$0-name] - as i understand a unic name for the abstraction - it doesn't read it, and doesn't write into it. So what should i do, if i need a flexible ability to dounload about 50-70 samplers whith unic files and parametres (which I planned to define in arguments of the abstraction and then sending it inside via [dollarg] ) Thank you ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] taking data from web
Hi, list ! I visited workshop on Processing and saw, that it is very easy to take data from web.. You just put txt-document somewhere in your web-site, then you just type URL-adress in Processing's code and it uses it as text-file on local computer. So maybe Processing has some browser in it. Anyway, the question is: can PD easily connect with servers and with web-sites ? Is there any way to make browser-interface in one city - able to change parameters in PD-patch in another city, for example ? Thank you ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Extracting delimeters in OSC ??
Seems it is still a problem. We can't unpack list from , sent to one OSC channel of UDPrecieve... I think it is because of the delimiter problem... it is recognised by PD as a list element.. Any help how to extract one particular element form list ? So we have a list of 100 elements, and every second of which is SPACE or COMA .. e.g. : 29,51,34,11,123, How can I extract COMAs from this to get just pd's appropriate list ? Any object to find and extract delimiter ? thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] HELP with udprecieve
Hi ! Yes, Jack. I use the chain: udprecieve - unpackOSC - pipelist - routeOSC we can recieve different floats through different channels, but can't unpack list, sent via one channel.. at the same time i can see the data in PD's terminal .. i have an idea, that we can't split the list from , cause sends floats delimeted by SPACES, but those SPACES recognized by PD as symbols or just irrelivant data .. We tried to assign another delimiters in (e.g. coma ), but I have no idea how to extract it from the incoming list and form a clear list appropriate for PD .. Any ides on that ? Or just if anyone tried to connect with PD via WiFi, or any network and send matrixes or lists through one channel ? thanks ! serg Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:08:31 +0100 от Jack j...@rybn.org: Le 23/03/2012 18:40, Фывапр Олджэвич a écrit : Hello, list ! We a trying to recieve OSC from to PD . Via UDPrecieve .. We are sending list of floats and see it in PD's terminal .. But we can't unpack it .. [ unpack f f f f f f f f f ] is not working .. So we need 50 floats unpacked and dynamically changing.. Any help how to do it ?? Thanks !! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Have you tried [unpackOSC] from mrpeach ? See the help patch. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] HELP with udprecieve
Hi, Martin ! Hm.. but why we can see lists in terminal in this case ?? Should it mean that PD recieves the data ? Or you mean that OSC protocol doesn't require delimeters or particularly spaces in lists ? Also the same lists, sent from (with it's spaces) are unpacked well in MAX .. Any ideas ? Thanks ! serg Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:46:31 -0400 от Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca: If is sending floats delimited by spaces then it's probably not an OSC message, and maybe just [udpreceive] followed by [moocow/[bytes2any] would work? Martin On 2012-03-24 18:33, Фывапр Олджэвич wrote: Hi ! Yes, Jack. I use the chain: udprecieve - unpackOSC - pipelist - routeOSC we can recieve different floats through different channels, but can't unpack list, sent via one channel.. at the same time i can see the data in PD's terminal .. i have an idea, that we can't split the list from , cause sends floats delimeted by SPACES, but those SPACES recognized by PD as symbols or just irrelivant data .. We tried to assign another delimiters in (e.g. coma ), but I have no idea how to extract it from the incoming list and form a clear list appropriate for PD .. Any ides on that ? Or just if anyone tried to connect with PD via WiFi, or any network and send matrixes or lists through one channel ? thanks ! serg Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:08:31 +0100 от Jackj...@rybn.org: Le 23/03/2012 18:40, Фывапр Олджэвич a écrit : Hello, list ! We a trying to recieve OSC from to PD . Via UDPrecieve .. We are sending list of floats and see it in PD's terminal .. But we can't unpack it .. [ unpack f f f f f f f f f ] is not working .. So we need 50 floats unpacked and dynamically changing.. Any help how to do it ?? Thanks !! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Have you tried [unpackOSC] from mrpeach ? See the help patch. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd-extended can't see $0-arrays ???
Hi, list ! Pd-extended version 0.42.5 and Windows 7. Why can't I create Arrays with names like $0-tab ? So i can actually create, but can't write into it. PD writes error: 0-tab: no such table It doesn't see $ ?? so i rename the array to0-tab . and now can write to it via message [ read -resize $1 $0-tab ( but the table is 0-tab - not$0-tab . So it is not unique inside-name ... And i can't use the sampler as multi abstraction - i get crosstalks.. it is written in tutorials that i can name the table with $0-names ... but PD seems doesn't understand such array names.. so what to do if i need 50 samplers working each by it's own with unique samples ??? a bug maybe ? Tanks in advance for help !! serg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] russian translation (was Re: how to switch multiple devices)
hi and thanks everyone ! well, i understood the idea. think it really could be very fun to look at Russian PD.. or lets say Ч.Д. ( Чистые Данные ) i hope to find time to do it. But as for me, i find it more necessary to tidy up PD-manuals.. or make something to clear what objects for what systems (Win , Mac, Lin) do really exist and work etc... I say most of Russians use Windows (for historical reasons). cheers ! serg 03 февраля 2012, 22:41 от Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 18:00 +0100, Max wrote: Am 03.02.2012 um 17:01 schrieb IOhannes zmölnig: while i personally hate my germanized Pd and thus can feel with you in terms of interface translation, i'm looking forward for your austrian translation. Noch besser, Steierisch or Kärntnerisch! .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [ pix_mix ] [ pix_chroma_key ] don't work for win 7 ?
Hi list ! Strangely, [ pix_mix ] and [ pix_chroma_key ] seems not working at my Windows 7 in pd-extended 42.5 . So when I load two different images in the help file - the objects show only one of them, but nothing mixes, when i tweak the slider. Aren't the objects for Win , or I do smthn wrong ? But some other pix-objects i tried - they do work. Thanks! спасибо ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how to switch multiple devices
Hi and thanks ! Yes. i'm Russian. We were making translation for cSoundBook , and maybe i will do it for the PD-manual (or maybe Google will do ))) . But i do not think it's a good idea to translate interface. Russians in general learn English in schools and understand it. cheers serg 03 февраля 2012, 02:17 от Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Check out the mediasettings library, its included in Pd-extended 0.43. Judging by your name, I'm guessing you speak Russian ;) Want to make a Russian translation for Pd? https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/ .hc On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 01:59 +0400, Фывапр Олджэвич wrote: Hi ! Anybody knows how to switch MIDI-devices from PD, if i use multiple devices for ins and outs? And the same for the audio ? Maybe a kind of internal messages ? Thank you very much in advance ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how to switch multiple devices
thankyou ! i'll try both. 03 февраля 2012, 02:58 от Max abonneme...@revolwear.com: El 02.02.2012, a las 22:59, Фывапр Олджэвич escribió: Anybody knows how to switch MIDI-devices from PD, if i use multiple devices for ins and outs? i'm not quite sure what you want to switch, but you might be interested in a virtual MIDI driver like MIDI Yoke http://www.midiox.com/ (I assume you are on windows from your mail client platform) And the same for the audio ? http://jackaudio.org/jack_on_windows Maybe a kind of internal messages ? if you want to simply reconfigure the audio/midi settings programmatically it might be revealing to listen to the internal pd messages [receive pd] | [print] and then change the audio/midi settings. you can use those messages which will be printed in the console to change your settings when sending messages to a [send pd] that's the principle applied by the mediasettings library hans mentioned. m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] how to switch multiple devices
Hi ! Anybody knows how to switch MIDI-devices from PD, if i use multiple devices for ins and outs? And the same for the audio ? Maybe a kind of internal messages ? Thank you very much in advance ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] WANTED ALIVE objects
Thanks, Mathieu and Hans.. strange as I know that iemlib and zexy are in my pd-extended package, but mov_avrg_kern~ pvgrain~ pvoc~ pvtuner~ do not work quantize~ - works. maybe the list of objects differs for Windows and mac and Linux ? Shouldn't it be mentioned in manual then ? Do you, guys, use MacOS ? Also, i can't find FFFease to be in my pd-extended.. look the initial list: libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'list-abs' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'memento' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pddp' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pixeltango' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'rradical' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'jmmmp' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path 27 января 2012, 05:27 от Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: Le 2012-01-27 à 05:02:00, Фывапр Олджэвич a écrit : pitchnoise~ Harmonic/inharmonic monophonic timbre separator http://www.apo33.org/pub/puredata/APO/librairies_PD/recup/pitchnoise/ quantize~ flatspace zexy as it says, it's in library zexy. mov_avrg_kern~ flatspace iemlib it's in iemlib. mypol2rec~ http://impala.utopia.free.fr/pd/patchs/selection/OUTILS/0__DIVERS_OUTILS/mypol2rec~.pd pvgrain~ pvoc~ pvtuner~ all others are in the fftease library. zexy, iemlib and fftease are already bundled with pd-extended. the others have to be installed separately. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Unauthorised to find
Hi ! it seems, that there's no Unauthorised packages for Windows on the puredata.info http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/unauthorized/releases/0.0.20101105 I can find only some of the objects in pd-extended 42.5.. Anyway the rest of the objects are described in manual and have help-files in EXTRA directory, but not the objects themselfs... No .dll's for them . Here: http://ydegoyon.free.fr/software.html - the author's page - no compiled versions for Win 7. Mr. Degoyon wrote to me, that he can't help: he's not Win user and he never uses pd-extended... So can anyone just upload a working version of Unauthorised for Windows to the site ? Or maybe just send some missing .dll's in attaches ? do they exist ? Really interesting objects. For example: cooled~ exciter~ filterbank~ formant~ graphic-mp3amp~ mrandtab pianoroll playlist probaliser spigot~ sonogram~ sonograph~ and many others ... Thanks ! serg ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] real-time tuning patch or object ?
Hi ! Did anyone try to do real-time tune-corrector (like Melodyne or autotune) in PD ? I really wanted to work with differently tuned recorded peoples words in realtime.. i mean being able to correct it via midi-keyboard in real-time, like vocoder.. But vocoder seems to be too synthetic in sound. And simple pitch-shifting is also sounds bad and is heavy. any advice ? Thank you !! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] WANTED ALIVE objects
Hi ! I use PD under Win 7. I can't understand why a lot of objects (very interesting once) that are mentioned in reference here: http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/index/ Do not exist in fact in PD-extended (version 0.42.5 i use)... Or maybe smthng wrong with initialising libraris.. (anyway i searched help-examples too) I'd like to stress that this manual is officially recommended for beginners on puredata.info . So as a beginner i'm really embarresed... In Processing for example or in MAx everything what is mantioned in manuals - is working in the soft. So where should i look for the objects listed below ? It's what i was looking.. I guess there are more of them lost.. pitchnoise~ Harmonic/inharmonic monophonic timbre separator presidency~ a spectral sampler with pitch control pvgrain~ a spectrum analyzer for granular resynthesis pvharm~ a harmonizer pvoc~ an additive synthesis phase vocoder pvtuner~ a spectrum quantizer for tuning to arbitrary scales pvwarp~ a non-linear frequency warper reanimator~ an audio texture mapper resent~ similar to residency~ but with independent bin control residency~ a spectral sampler useful for time scaling scrape~ a noise reduction (or increase) object with frequency control shapee~ a frequency shaping object swinger~ a phase swapping object taint~ a cross synthesis object vacancy~ a spectral compositing object xsyn~ a cross synthesis with compression object pvcompand~ a spectral compressor/expander object quantize~ flatspace zexy quantize a signal with a variable step-number mov_avrg_kern~ flatspace iemlib moving average filter kernel mypol2rec~ fft stuff, needed as abstraction for some other ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] why [ hid ] is not in pd-extended ?
Really can't understand why the [ hid ] object is not in pd-extended by default. By the way, here : http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/ch056_game-controllers/ the link for download is empty .. so how to take data from game-pad or Wii-mote ? Any help please ? Thank you ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] how to tidy up patches ?
Hi ! is there any option in PD to make complex patches look less messy ? for example in MAX you can hide all the connections in performance mode.. in - you can spline the hords in MAX you also can make hords with different angles.. and so on.. is there any way in PD to tidy it all up ? i can't find it. maybe it is really something to do ? thnx , serg ! -- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how to tidy up patches ?
thanks everyone ! nothing new, unfortunately )) 12 января 2012, 23:59 от Фывапр Олджэвич tofuc...@inbox.ru: Hi ! is there any option in PD to make complex patches look less messy ? for example in MAX you can hide all the connections in performance mode.. in - you can spline the hords in MAX you also can make hords with different angles.. and so on.. is there any way in PD to tidy it all up ? i can't find it. maybe it is really something to do ? thnx , serg ! -- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] how to tidy up patches ?
Hi ! is there any option in PD to make complex patches look less messy ? for example in MAX you can hide all the connections in performance mode.. in - you can spline the hords in MAX you also can make hords with different angles.. and so on.. is there any way in PD to tidy it all up ? i can't find it. maybe it is really something to do ? thnx , serg ! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] soñando satelites, interactive installation using puredata
Big HELLO to Victor Mazon from Moscow ! He and Mario De Vega did a great event here at AlteFest (www.AlteFest.tk) in 2010 !! 19 ноября 2011, 14:44 от Marco Donnarumma i...@thesaddj.com: Nice one! I saw the Gpredict patch in operation yesterday here at Piksel with Victor Mazon and friends. Good luck! M On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I just want to present to you my last work Soñando satelites [Dreaming Satellites]. It uses puredata (thanks to Alberto Zin among others), Din - din is noise, and gpredict with a patch from David Pello. cheers husk -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
