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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
There are other objects that do that, but its best to not hve it that
way, IMHO. IOhannes suggested fixing this on the internal side, but I
think its OK to handle it in the external itself. If you make a patch,
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Martin Peach wrote:
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
somewhat related is the question of system exclusive ressources (e.g. a
port for [netreceive]).
i find it highly frustrating that all of the network server objects will
plainly refuse to instantiate
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Personally, I think it should instantiate, and throw a pd_error()
saying that it can't function without a port number. Another option
for netreceive is to pick a default port number.
this is not something i
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IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
By the way one question:
Does [makefilename] support _exactly_ _everything_ that sprintf in C
supports?
unfortunately not.
in order to make [makefilename] not crash on almost everything you
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Rich E wrote:
Hi,
It would be great if there was some way to tell pd which plist file to
load. I see there is an option '-noprefs', how about an open '-prefs
FILE'? I know you could do this with a bash script or something similar,
but that
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Jack wrote:
I have done this patch.
It works with a [gemwin] with [dimen 800 600( and capture a picture wit=
h
dimen =3D
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=1543850group_id=55736atid=478072
i don't know how well this works for with the new dollarg-expansion code
(within symbols, not only at the beginning).
and anyhow
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IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
messages:
- $$ provides unique ID number
- $# provides argument count from incoming message
- $@ provides the list of arguments from incoming message
objects:
- $$ provides unique ID
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Here's my summary of the proposals mentioned here:
I agree that $0 is totally arbitrary and is not inherintly bound to
object boxes. I think this strongest proposed fix is to introduce $$
which works in both
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Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
By the way one question:
Does [makefilename] support _exactly_ _everything_ that sprintf in C
supports?
unfortunately not.
in order to make [makefilename] not crash on almost everything you feed
it, the format-string
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Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
#
Didn't someone mention that hexloader was still buggy or has this been
fixed?
hexloader works perfectly for loading binaries (or everything that uses
a sysloader to load).
it has problems loading abstractions, because of
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Max wrote:
Doesn't work here (OS 10.6) neither with Pd-extended (0.41.4), but with PD
vanilla 0.42-5 it does work.
this is a known bug in pd-0.41 fixed in 0.42
the problem is the way Pd is started on osx in order to make it a nice
and proper osx
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Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Anyway, in m_pd.h, A_DOLLAR exists and A_DOLLARG doesn't.
ah yes thanks for fixing.
mfgws.g
IOhannes
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Rich E wrote:
That probably works, but who knows since you can't see the patch :)
well, there are reasons why there is a -nogui flag. i guess you can
find out whether it works or not even without seeing it.
dfa,sr
IOhannes
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Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Any idea?
ues [gemframebuffer]
fmasdr
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Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
wouldn't need weird hacks in the pd source; but if anyone wanted to
reimplement old-style messageboxes, they'd need to find a way to disable
$-substitution in that case.
you can get the unparsed arguments during runtime
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I'm Fabio Buda and I recently started to work with hosting; I support
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ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
jim wrote:
adapt it??
you mean write some externals in pd?
iirc, some brazilian has already done a bridge between Pd and videojack.
it was not accepted for the pdcon though,...
fgmasr
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olsen wrote:
with the 0.92 branch from subversion i get some warnings:
thanks to claude and matju, a fix should now be in svn (both trunk and
0.92 branch)
fgamsdr
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Hi list
I am trying to install Pd on Fedora 10 x86_64. There is no binary package
for this (in CCRMA repository neither). I tried to build from source but
there is no configure file in src directory. Should i make without
configure or would be better to try to
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olsen wrote:
thanks hans for this indication
this is the correct flag to compile it with v4l2?!
--with-libv4l2-includes=/usr/lib/libv4l2.so
hmm, the ..-includes flag is meant for adding _include_ directives to
the compiler rather than libraries
IOhannes zmölnig wrote:
[...]
sorry, i completely misunderstood your question, so i guess its best to
just ignore what i wrote.
Pd doesn't have anything as fancy as you describe. it's likely that you
are referring the external Comment implementation found in cyclone.
i guess it is best to
Jaime Oliver wrote:
ok, thanks!
anyone has an idea?
run ./configure
edit Make.config
add any flags to GEM_CXXFLAGS
run make
fgmadr
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babsyco babsyco wrote:
Hi guys-I just have another fairly simple question. I'm running PD on a
macbook pro with a 2.26 Intel Core 2 duo processor, 2 gig of memory 1067 MHz
DDR3, and I'm using a terratec Phase 24FW external sound card. On my other
computer (which was far inferior) using this
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Basically, all Gem externals that are outside of the main Gem library
have to be recompiled once in a while, to match the Gem ABI.
the same holds true for all Gem externals that are inside the main Gem
library and/aka internals.
the process is more automated, though.
hi
Konstantinos Benardis wrote:
First of all sorry for double posting but i did not receive my own posting.
you can configure how mailman will send postings to you via the
web-interface. a link to this interface is attached to each and every
mail you get from the list.
I tried to compile
Jamie Bullock wrote:
Hi all,
Has anyone implemented this with externals, or a Pd dynamic patching hack?
s~/r~ are one-to-many settable on the receive side.
throw~/catch~ are many-to-one settable on the send side.
What about a sendbus~/receivebus~ many-to-many settable on both sides?
Jack wrote:
Sorry, there was a mistake in a path.
All is fine now.
no.
where did you get the information about using CVS?
all Pd development switched to subversion almost 2 years ago.
the cvs is still up for legacy reasons. but you really should use SVN
and the information that pointed you
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Sep 25, 2009, at 3:49 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
start the pd.com rather than the pd.exe
There is definitely some black magic to it. I find that different
shells will give you different results, like cmd.exe versus the MSYS
rxvt shell, the Cygwin
Jamie Bullock wrote:
Hi all,
Is it possible to prevent Pd from 'detaching' itself from the command
prompt when launched from the command line under Windows?
start the pd.com rather than the pd.exe
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Damien Henry wrote:
Hello !
Where can I find documentation about pd.lib ?
Does anyone on the list turn pd into a library ? for creating a DSP
engine for instance ?
no.
this is how Pd has always been built by miller on w32.
pd.exe/pd.com is just a tiny wrapper that calls the main-loop
bra...@subnet.at wrote:
Hi list
anybody having an idea of building a bluebox in pd/gem?
very simple, see attached patch.
fmdasdr
IOhannes
you can also have a look at [pix_chroma_key]
#N canvas 119 99 602 408 10;
#X obj 63 82 gemwin;
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 bluegreenbox 0;
#X obj 121 71 inlet
hi
enrique franco wrote:
Hi,
I have downloaded the binary for Gem 0.92.0 on Mac and copied it to the PD
folder but I can´t find the Gem.pd_darwin file and it can´t load the
library...what else do I need to do?
ouch!
indeed there are 2 separate issues here:
- i plainly forgot to include the
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
hi
enrique franco wrote:
Hi,
I have downloaded the binary for Gem 0.92.0 on Mac and copied it to
the PD
folder but I can´t find the Gem.pd_darwin file and it can´t load the
library...what else do I need to do?
ouch!
indeed there are 2 separate issues here:
- i
enrique franco wrote:
Hi,
I am attaching a patch with the images I load. If you check the activity
monitor you will see that it takes almost all the RAM memory after a while.
To run it, just create the Gem window and start the metro.
Is this a problem with PD or GEM itself, or is there
João Pais wrote:
maybe it's better if you send it to hans, or commit it yourself to your
externals folder?
hans is reading the list so it has already been sent to him.
apart from that, i think that people should stop using [spigot~]:
- it does something different than [spigot], so it's name
sisil mehta wrote:
Hey,
i'mm using ATI Radeon mobility 4570. I checked in the harddware drivers
section and this is what i found:
No proprietary are in use on this system.
ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
(description)
this driver is not activated.
Marco Donnarumma wrote:
I'm (finally) migrating to linux - (Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 + Pd-extended 41.4
rc3 + ATI Radeon) and my latest patch (which was working pretty fine on
windozz) is sucking CPU in an awful way, making Pd freeze. What Pd don't
like is [snap2tex].
error: [gemframebuffer]:
hi
Adityo Pratomo wrote:
so basically by using [netreceive] and php i can deploy Pd in a server, and
then people can use their own client (without installing Pd) to play with
the parameters? Is this what you're trying to say?
it is still unclear to me what you mean by deploy Pd in a server.
J bz wrote:
How can I do this?
look at [moses]
fgmasdr
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J bz wrote:
Hey IOhannes,
Yeah I thought about moses but doesn't moses always start at 0?
no, why do you think so?
(unless you mean, by starting what is the default behaviour when you
don't specify an argument and/or don't reset the limit)
even if it did, you could always translform the
Damien Henry wrote:
by using the compiled version of wiimote.pd_linux I've the following :
/home/dh/Bureau/A/wiimote.pd_linux: libbluetooth.so.2: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
wiimote
... couldn't create
If I've rename the libbluetooth.so to libbluetooth.so.2 and
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
.d_fat doesn't work on Pd-extended (I don't remember why, feel free to
fix it), just rename it to .pd_darwin like a normal external.
hmm: apart from all the flamewars about whether it's a good idea or not
to use .d_fat and/or .pd_darwin, why do you imply that
hi all
as soon s i have left graz for pdcon09, heavy rain caused the government
of graz to impose emergency rules.
puredata.info (serving among others this mailinglist) has suffered from
the power-outages as well.
when you are reading this, everything is well again.
sorry for the
Alexandros Droseltis wrote:
Hello!
I discovered pd yesterday (0.42.3-0.pm.1 for openSuSE) and I am amazed!
I created some small mini installations by playing with it and reading
the very nice tutorial at pd-tutorial.com and the doc that comes with
it. Unfortunately when I tried to use [expr] it
Andres Ferrari wrote:
hello,
is d_fat a new extension for externals in OSX?
how works?
d is for darwin, fat is for universal binaries.
there are alternative extensions like d_ppc (guess what).
it's just an filename-extension, otherwise it is identical to the old
extensions (but it is
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
however, if this _is_ the problem, just renaming .d_fat to .pd_darwin
should fix it (and bugger hans to remain compatible with pd-vanilla :-))
(i'm pretty sure that on 0.40 you already should have support for .d_fat)
i just found out (with hans by my side), that Pd
Derek Holzer wrote:
Is there any way to import vector graphics, like .svg or similar, into
GEM?
not directly.
Hopefully without rasterizing them (i.e. converting to .gif or
similar)? I'd like to create images in Inkscape and animate them in GEM
without having to deal with ugly-looking pixel
Lorenzo wrote:
but most of them are cranky too, in that they never seem to know what
I want to do with them ;)
If you're on Linux I guess you may be interested in the [readmind]
object part of the 'telepathy' package.
It's left inlet takes values from [hid] connected to a USB mind-reader
Derek Holzer wrote:
However, you will need Extended or the individual OSC objects on your
system to communicate with an OSC application outside of Pd, either
locally on your own machine or out on a network somewhere. Check the
oscx help files in Extended. [sendOSC] is the particular object
Josh Lawrence wrote:
Hello Derek and IOHannes,
Thank you so much for the advice, I will definitely check all of this out.
b/t/w, is there an IRC room that pd'ers hang out in that is generally
welcome to newbies?
of course: irc://irc.freenode.net/dataflow
fgmasdr
IOhannes
Derek Holzer wrote:
I knew somebody would have to complicate my simple, straightforward
answer...
sorry: a simple, straightforward and misleading answer.
Why hasn't somebody made this the default set of OSC objects in
Extended by now then? Or perhaps replaced the original oscx libraries
Jack wrote:
Have you remarks ?
++
just do it.
fgmasdr
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Derek Holzer wrote:
I knew somebody would have to complicate my simple, straightforward
answer...
also i wonder, why nobody complained about my damnation of [sfplay] in
favour of [readsf~].
is it just that by chance in this case nobody had set their bets on the
slow runner?
fgamsdr
Derek Holzer wrote:
Hi again,
hi
thanks for the plentiful use of ;-) to peace my mind...
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
and how do you notice that it is split into 2 different libs in PdX?
My mistake, I thought there was a mrpeach net lib and a mrpeach osc lib.
which in fact they should
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
cem guney hat gesagt: // cem guney wrote:
just started studying PD. going through the control examples i've been
stuck trying to figure out the function of the message, seed 123 in the
example for random.
not sure if i figured out the explanation below,
Seeds
Gerhardsenz wrote:
Hello IOhannes
hi
if your reply is not intimate, i would prefer it if discussions were
kept on the list and not moved to private threads.
thus knowledge can spread on it's own and people do not have to ask or
answer the same questions again and again...
therefore, i
Max wrote:
hi list,
it would be very useful if pix_buffer_filmopen would give the same info
about the movie just like pix_film's second outlet (list frames size size)
should i file a feature request?
yes please do so, and while doing so, it would be nice if you could
provide a patch that
Martin Peach wrote:
So if I set the blocksize in gjackctl, does that override Pd's delay
or does that relate to the difficulty of getting them to sync up sometimes?
afair, using jack as audio backend will just ignore whatever you put
into the delay.
fmgasdr
IOhannes
dwanafite wrote:
Hi
You could use [readsf~ 12] to read your file and then several [writesf~ 2] to
record, but i guess you want something faster...
in 0.42 you can use batchmode to do immediate (faster-than realtime)
processing. in older versions you can just use upsampling to speed up
the
cristiano figueiró wrote:
Hi everyone,
A little question about work with git in patch repositorys:
Can i acces directly in pd my older revisions? I'm doing in the wrong
way i think, i pickup some commit id and save with another name and than
open pd :p
hmm, i'm not sure whether i fully
Daniel Almeida wrote:
Hi all,
I'm making an application to trigger videos using MIDI. I'm coding the
MIDI in Ableton Live and sending it through a MIDI loop on my soundcard.
OS? (tired of guessing on which platform ableton live might run or not;
tired of looking at people's email-headers
abonnements-olivier wrote:
and for the next session
echo export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/libv4l1/v4l1compat.so ~/.bashrc
actually i would not recommend this.
LD_PRELOAD seriously interferes with how application linking works (and
is therefore usually discouraged); the sole purpose of it
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
my point has always been quite clear, that i do not especially like the
idea putting every single line of source we can get our hands on and
which some piece of software eventually included by Pd-extended depends
on into the repository.
i'd purge GemLibs
punchik punchik wrote:
Hello, im working on a interactive installation, im using a web cam in the roof
to track the movements of people in a space. The thing is that the roof is not
so tall, so i just can track a little space. So i was wondering if a i oould
use 2 web cams in gem and render
donotreply wrote:
Hi People
As it took me a lot of work for such a simple idea (near 1700
conections) I share it with you, just in case anybody else needs
something like this.
It works receiving a data stream from one inlet, and selecting from a
second one between 42 different outs (outlets
Miller Puckette wrote:
Pd version 0.42-5 is ready:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
or via svn:
svn checkout https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/pd/
Bug fixes: abs~, log~, pd~ -ninsig 0.
The 32 channel limit for ASIO and on Mac is no longer imposed.
would it
Hannes wrote:
Hello all,
if I remember correct there is a possibility in PD to dynamically load a
library at runtime using a certain object(?) in your patch - any ideas? Thanks!
to load a library like Gem (e.g. in the file Gem.pd_linux), create the
object [Gem].
that's it.
you can use
Andy Farnell wrote:
I looked for that in dsp_add() myself, but couldn't see it.
On a practical note; having long suspected this while working
with numbers of [throw~][catch~] buses at the mix stage it
helps to introduce DC traps before every [throw~].
i never ever heard of these nor
hi
including the mailing list again, as i guess that you already know what
i am talking about...
Andy Farnell wrote:
A patch with N contributory signals, like an additive synth.
The mix is (s1 + s2 + s3 ... sN) / N
If each voice has a small DC offset then the sum will eventually drift
bra...@subnet.at wrote:
Hello
i would like to start experiments with motiontracking. It seemed a good
starting point to use pix_multiblob. unfortunatly it does crash pd. I have
tried it with vista and pure dyne. on both of them i did not succed.
also pix_blobtracker does not open
the
hi
Miller Puckette wrote:
I think this is a good idea, but don't know in detail how to do it.
Patches should be able to have a say as to what they prefer (beyond
what's available via the declare object) but they can't just smash over
everything - for instance, they might not know what audio
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The settings in patches should override any of these settings, IMHO. I
would like to see more of that kind of stuff. For example, instead of a
single 'audio-dialog' message, it would be very handy to have individual
messages for each configuration item, like
thomas thiery wrote:
Hello IOhannes,
I use this source of Gem, is it the last?
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pd-gem/gem-0.91-3.tar.gz?use_mirror=heanet
it's the last official release (which does not take the peculiarities of
0.42 into account)
however, the latest and greatest sources
thomas thiery wrote:
Thank you,
I test the compilation and I have this error when I compile
make: *** [Base] Error 2
I can't make an interpretation of this
i have fixed this now in svn (just update your working copy)
fgmadr
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thomas thiery wrote:
Thank you,
I test the compilation and I have this error when I compile
make: *** [Base] Error 2
I can't make an interpretation of this
i have fixed this now in svn (just update your working copy)
fgmadr
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thomas thiery wrote:
I make a binary from scratch of Gem for Mac osx 10.5.6 and pd 0.42-4 but
I have the same problem.
did you compile the 0.91.3 sources, or fresh from svn?
please file a bug-report at http://sf.net/projects/pd-gem
mfga.sdr
IOhannes
Geoff wrote:
I have put them in a place where the Path of PD searches and all the
objects work except the main one.
bandfilter~.pd_linux
that's because the .pd_linux is not searched by Pd on OSX.
Am I correct in assuming that although Faust to PD works it only works,
for LINUX users and
Geoff wrote:
try renaming the file to bandfilter~.pd_darwin and see whether it works.
Tried it but alas no joy
There are no options in FAUST to compile to PD linux/pd osx etc.
Only one option compile to PD.
did you use an online generator, or have you compiled the faust-code to
pd on your
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Scrolling in a number box is not a standard GUI interaction, and not
particularly intuitive.
Should we stop using the number box in Pd?
why not?
people are way more used to spinners (or
danomatika wrote:
Does the PdCon 09 page work for anyone?
Naturally, I forgot to apply and realized it is due today and now the
page is down ... :(
try these instead:
paper submit page:
http://pdcon09.devolts.org/author/submit.php
paper upload page (once you have submitted it):
Charles Henry wrote:
There is a way to write the code for a new or create routine in
your class via [loadbang],
where did you get that impression from?
[loadbang] does _not_ work as a constructor (it's too late).
that's why i had written [initbang], which unfortunately never made it
into Pd.
august wrote:
hey'aw.
Can anyone give me hand on handling Japanese character encodings in PD.
I feel like I've read every document on character encodings and still
don't understand the messeven for my own pragrams that work with
text.
Is there a way to handle UTF-8 in PD?
hmm,
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
if (!s-s_name) s = gensym(file.%d);
vs
if (!*s-s_name) s = gensym(file.%d);
Because Pd uses s_ as default value for a symbol arg, not a null
pointer, so s-s_name is never considered false... same bug, really.
btw, this has been fixed in some bugfix release
Jack wrote:
What do you think ?
s
this is basically what frank has been suggesting and what matju and me
have kind-of supported.
it would have been good if it was like that in the first place.
the rest frank, matju and me have written about it is, that it would be
a bad idea to add this to Pd as
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
- build your own synthesizer which could be controlled by MIDI. if you
are truely lazy, there's an object called [fluid~] that let's you import
soundfonts...
to be more precise:
i meant that you can build your own software synthesizer in Pd (you can
also build your
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you switch to forcing users to register in order to edit, then you
get spam bots creating user accounts, which are harder to delete. So
far, it does not take much work to delete the spam using the
mediawiki admin tools (delete, protect, watch, etc.) I
Chris McCormick wrote:
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 01:06:32AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
What about the idea of having a separate section like /pure-data/svn-
externals?
hmm, i'm trying (not so) hard to remove the ./abstractions folder in
favour of a grand unified ./externals folder...
hi ed.
Ed Kelly wrote:
Hi chaps,
I've come up against something I can't solve without a deeper
understanding of pd's internal structure, I wonder if anyone can help.
I'm trying to build patches that know about each instance of themselves
when called as an abstraction, without the
altern wrote:
it is a computer from the university where i am conducting a short
workshop so i dont know how installed it. just in case I cheked and the
driver was already there, however i reinstalled it. but I still get the
same error.
hmm, according to the glewinfo output, you only have
Jaime Oliver wrote:
This happens to me too in fc6, Pd 0.41-1, GEM 0.91-cvs, x86_64
It doesn't happen in fc8, Pd 0.41-1, GEM 0.91-cvs, x86_64
http://gem.iem.at/documentation/faq/gemwindestroycrash
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Dec 3, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Chris McCormick wrote:
I don't know about svn --ignore-externals, anyone care to expand on
that? (yes, I can RTFM, but I am talking real world experience as
related to Pd, which TFM will not tell me)
hmm, --ignore-externals
patrick wrote:
hi hans,
i know almost nothing about pd svn, but i was looking at framesync and
there is no external (.pd_linux, .pd_darwin, .dll).
no generated file (e.g. binaries which are generated by compiling
source-code) should ever be under version control.
should it be in
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:36 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:
is there any chance to sync the two repositories?
(personally i would still suggest an svn:externals link; but let's
keep
this for later :-))
sorry for re-starting the flame-war.
it was not my intention but
altern wrote:
hi
the machine has a special graphic card, it is a matrox Parhelia LX, from
matrox millenium P-Series. I think it is used for stereoscopy or
something like that. Could it be that graphics card and Gem do no like
each other?
possible but who knows...
it would be
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
i think such workflow does more harm than not.
If you don't like this workflow you don't have to use it. For
what the...?
i am describing a real-world problem and the only answer you have to it
is: if you don't like it, don't use it?
Pd-extended, there
hard off wrote:
an easy way might be to put a [bang~] in a subpatch, so that it is
triggered after the [env~ ] objects, and then connect each [env~] to the
right inlet of a [f ]...then you
can bang the floats with [t b b] from the [bang~]
well, but the [bang~] will have the same problem: it
Damian Stewart wrote:
hm. are all the [~] objects going to trigger before or after all the
message-rate objects? is that much defined? or could there be
interleaved [~] and message-rate object firings? eg an [env~] fires
before a [* ] which is then followed by another [env~]?
well,
Pd's
Damian Stewart wrote:
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
now, signal-to-message objects _should_ accept this scheduling, by *not*
sending messages in the dsp callback, but rather schedule them to the
next tick (via a [delay 0])
afaik all _internal_ objects adhere to this.
hm, again.. so, at what
Damian Stewart wrote:
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
now, signal-to-message objects _should_ accept this scheduling, by *not*
sending messages in the dsp callback, but rather schedule them to the
next tick (via a [delay 0])
afaik all _internal_ objects adhere to this.
hm, again.. so, at what
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